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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 12:24 GMT
#4830
On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.

So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.

If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.

You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 12:25 GMT
#4831
Go ahead big boi, lynch me.

This is your town, no?

Or are you gonna start two trains out of thin air like with Tfrel and JAT?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 12:30 GMT
#4836
On March 08 2024 17:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 17:38 Koshi wrote:
On March 08 2024 17:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 17:18 Koshi wrote:
On March 08 2024 17:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 17:11 Koshi wrote:
On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.

So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.

If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.

You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread.

CC is not mafia. Worst case she is traitor and played very cool D1.

Koshi talk to me, where are you at right now

You have to die because I am too time constrained to reread and get invested.
I am quite clueless this game. Those names I posted earlier are my choices but I dont have good reasons. It's more PoE.
MZ I think is mafia. Really think he is faking activity when he is here. And he has some towntells he didnt show. (Rage after lynch)
Rels is playing a safe scumgame and will be very hard to lynch.
Is Jacob confirmed blue gunsmith? Because I also think he might be mafia. Bit if he is blue that is wrong ofc.

My townreads are pretty solid I think. (Yes I realise my only towncase this game was on a redcheck)

So VE, Dmb, Palmar left (cuz rayn)

And then TTS who could be anything.

Just saying your reads are almost exactly the same as mine lol

Ok, I am a bit behind so cant factcheck but I am voting VE.
I hope people stop being stupid and dont lynch you.

Me too

Here’s my read list
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On March 08 2024 09:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Okay here’s a short read list while I have some time
Town
Koshi
Vivax
Slam
Jsl
Cake
Dp
Marv
Iamp

Mafia
Dmb
Mz
Jat
Tts
VE


Although I’d move dmv out of mafia and put Palmar in


cake so town
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 12:32 GMT
#4838
On March 08 2024 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 08 2024 21:25 CopCake wrote:
Go ahead big boi, lynch me.

This is your town, no?

Or are you gonna start two trains out of thin air like with Tfrel and JAT?

Can we park the whole CC DP business. At least till day 3

That goes to both of you


He spent 5 hours talking about me when I was at work.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 12:34 GMT
#4840
On March 08 2024 11:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 08 2024 11:50 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question

What is more likely to happen?

Assume I am town (I am)

- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith

In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)

Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.

But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,

So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.

So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP.


Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night.

What happens if I am alive during the day?

:D

We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam)

Because mafia stopped the vig shot.

I need to stop this train of thought.
1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out
2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless

So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario


Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind

Let’s get focused here,
What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you


I think it is better if you ask from “more experienced” players.

My playstyle is not exactly the best cup of tea.

I wanna know what I can provide for you lol


pretty sure this means oats town reads me but I think he should answer.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 12:40 GMT
#4843
I can park my vote on Palmar, btw.

Or - you know who -

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 12:44 GMT
#4844
I also think - you know who - should vig me.

I think my dead would clarify more things than TTS. It is easier for town to deal with an inactive that a person that brings more questions.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 14:20 GMT
#4858
On March 08 2024 22:46 Vivax wrote:
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On March 06 2024 12:27 Vivax wrote:
The way I see it, DMB mafia means the scumteam would have to kill her as quickly as possible before she slips up too much.



Explain this to me like if I was a kindergarden
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 15:22 GMT
#4871
I can be vigged, koshi is cute and needs to be the hero the town needs but do not deserve.

Anytime <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 15:30 GMT
#4873
A game with me and dmb as mafia would had been so much fun.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 16:12 GMT
#4877
Rels is right tho, he has never been considered a player that have impact day 1.

Idk if way way way before but the games I have played with him he has been absent, as town or mafia.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 16:14 GMT
#4881
Well if you are not miller, what are you?

It is not logical to think he is setting up a slam lynch if you flip miller.

And Framer I think is pretty low.

Idk if I am seeing that correctly.

I believe you are town and miller.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 16:21 GMT
#4882
MZ, i dont wanna be mean but I answered your question.

Did it help somehow with your reads?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 16:29 GMT
#4883
On March 07 2024 11:33 Jealous wrote:
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On March 07 2024 11:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:01 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 07 2024 10:42 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
But trying to become mayor as mafia is very risky and stupid. Even I understand that.

So does that mean that all of the following have to be town?
Vivax (13), raynpelikoneet (3), Oatsmaster (1), Koshi (1)

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Town dp would feel attacked if you call him mafia and would names reasons why he is not.
Mafia dp plays it of cool, that you don't see the fear of being discovered.

Maybe this is a DP thing, or maybe I'm different from most, or maybe I'm just stupid... But how much evidence can DP have to name reasons for why he is not mafia when we're what, 16 hours into D1? Maybe the volume they put out... but still, let's have a thought experiment:

What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up.

I made an error out the gate (not catching that Alakaslam cop-claimed) and I didn't get my head bit off for it by anyone. It was corrected and we kept it moving. So, I think this point is overblown. If you're not scum, "mistakes" don't magically make you scum, IMO. The mistake itself has to be AI.

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
He waits hours but no body jumps on a cake wagon or he already sees that that wagon will not be successful. So he need to get someelse, but thats good for his record, because Town DP change often his vote just usually with good reasons.

If it wasn't his meta already then I could see this being potentially being true/AI, but because you say that it is his meta... I don't get your point here?

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town

Please clarify your logic here, too.


That does not mean that this people are Town for me.
It has something to do with my experience of DP's personality. Sorry if I didn´t make that clear.

Okay, I can believe that you believe this 👍

On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?

Regardless of my aligment I would not start a fight with dp without having do!!!
As mafia I would not do that. That would take the fun away as I had in the last game trying to lynch Palmar
As Town I just to it because I don´t have something more importend in my head.

This I am having a much harder time following.

If I understand correctly you say that you wouldn't argue with DP regardless of your alignment, then you say you would not do it as mafia, and then you say you would do it as town?

Perhaps this will be easier, allow me to rephrase:

In this specific game, what can you point to as being reasons for why you are town by the 16 hour mark?

I'm just struggling to understand what your ideal response from DP would be here. If someone put me on the spot like that, frankly I'd just be like:
[image loading]

On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
And the Ve post is good
He doesn´t really want to play anymore because we always lynch him early.
Compassion would be the best description

The way you responded to it is "let them play, then lynch them because they are an active townie," which doesn't make much sense to me as "compassion"? As Jacob said above, that almost sounds like a scumslip, but I am sure I must be misunderstanding something or you misspoke.



Starting a discussion with Dp with my English, his ambition and his never-ending questions get on my nerves. I would never voluntarily start a discussion with him if I didn't have to and the only reason I do it is because he is my main scum read.
Being scum was really fun for me and that would take the fun out of it ergo I can not be scum

Also the our major is slapping my ass while i try to translate my thougts correctly. Pls for god sake I have to concentrate Vivax


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On March 07 2024 11:29 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:10 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:03 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hmmmmm in your opinion Jealous.

Sure mistakes happen but do you think DMB's "mistake" and reaction to it (not noticing we were even pointing out the mistake for ages) is more or less suspicoius than Koshi's "Mistake" and reaction to it. (ignoring it entirely and being like I'm town fuck you)


I think that both are NAI. I wouldn't even call Koshi's "mistake" that. As someone else told you, I consider "if" and "when" to almost colloquially interchangeable in that context.

DMB's mistake reads as far more damning to me but there are mitigating factors and I think that even some as seemingly erratic as them wouldn't have brought it up just to slip up like that, IMO.

I'm more concerned about the fact that most of what they wrote that wasn't a mistake felt pretty weak to me. This is their best case on their strongest scum read, and now they are too lazy to stick around, because "I don't wanna be town I wanna be mafia"? That's hella weak IMO.

I can see a genuine town doing that, I guess, kinda like how we have people who didn't vote and aren't posting for various reasons. However, I also see it as sufficient reason to keep them on my lynch list, because mafia isn't precluded from claiming laziness after flailing under some light pressure.


I put myself under pressure to start that shit with dp. I know i couldn´t handle that as well as I should so why should I do that as mafia? I knew he gonna give me a lot of pressure more then all the other players would, so again why should I start that and not just take someone easyer do try do lynch and go more with the crowd thoughts. Why even start with the master? I would not be that stupid as mafia


Okay, now I understand what you were saying before. Thanks for clarifying. I actually kinda like this thought process because at least I get it.


Good to know Jelaous is a very serious person that finds the logic of Vivax slapping DMB logical to determine her alignment .
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 16:31 GMT
#4885
DMB: “ Also the our major is slapping my ass while i try to translate my thougts correctly. Pls for god sake I have to concentrate Vivax“

Jelaous: “ Okay, now I understand what you were saying before. Thanks for clarifying. I actually kinda like this thought process because at least I get it.”



I love you DMB
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 16:31 GMT
#4886
On March 09 2024 01:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On March 09 2024 01:21 CopCake wrote:
MZ, i dont wanna be mean but I answered your question.

Did it help somehow with your reads?

I understand you were confused about slam's choice. I was trying to figure out if that stemmed purely from questioning slam or if it was also driven by a townread of Oats.

I think it helped. The biggest thing for me right now are the amount of people who voted Oats while calling him town. People caveating their votes like that is making me second guess some things.

At least you decided to scum read him based on the NKs after I asked you the questions yesterday morning.


Who did I scum read O_o?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 16:35 GMT
#4888
“I kinda like this thought process”

“Vivax slapping dumb”

“Thought process”

“Thought process”
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 16:36 GMT
#4889
I just lost it irl, I cant stop to laugh at that 😂🤣
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 16:37 GMT
#4890
I cant stop laughing*

Omg
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 16:37 GMT
#4891
##vote: jelaous
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