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On March 08 2024 11:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 23:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
Oatsmaster (10): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie
die_meatbaby (1): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous
Not Voting (6): Vivax, marvellosity, Palmar, Koshi, ToTheStars, VisceraEyes
With 10 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Given the non-voter list rn, I'm not convinced scum is just gonna roll with the red check and move on. I still think there's a chance we see someone try and make #bigplays today which is why I'm so against having this continued discussion on the slam check. Especially since there are people who have called it a good lynch and then not voted for it. Wow, called this shit out 11 hours ago.
You ever gonna tell us who the someone is? It ain’t koshi he ain’t posting shit right now
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On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question
What is more likely to happen?
Assume I am town (I am)
- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith
In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)
Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.
But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,
So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.
So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP. Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night. What happens if I am alive during the day? :D We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam) Because mafia stopped the vig shot.
I need to stop this train of thought.
1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out
2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless
So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario
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On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question
What is more likely to happen?
Assume I am town (I am)
- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith
In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)
Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.
But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,
So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.
So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP. Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night. What happens if I am alive during the day? :D We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam) Because mafia stopped the vig shot. I need to stop this train of thought. 1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out 2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind
Let’s get focused here,
What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you
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On March 08 2024 11:49 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question
What is more likely to happen?
Assume I am town (I am)
- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith
In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)
Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.
But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,
So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.
So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP. Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night. What happens if I am alive during the day? :D We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam) Because mafia stopped the vig shot. I need to stop this train of thought. 1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out 2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind Let’s get focused here, What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you you could try to do a meta analysis of yourself.
This is my second game in the past like 7 years lol
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On March 08 2024 11:50 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question
What is more likely to happen?
Assume I am town (I am)
- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith
In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)
Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.
But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,
So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.
So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP. Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night. What happens if I am alive during the day? :D We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam) Because mafia stopped the vig shot. I need to stop this train of thought. 1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out 2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind Let’s get focused here, What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you I think it is better if you ask from “more experienced” players. My playstyle is not exactly the best cup of tea.
I wanna know what I can provide for you lol
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On March 08 2024 11:51 iamperfection wrote:
its what i would do if i had an incorrect check.
That’s also because your mafia meta is so divergent from your town meta lol
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On March 08 2024 11:54 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:49 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question
What is more likely to happen?
Assume I am town (I am)
- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith
In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)
Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.
But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,
So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.
So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP. Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night. What happens if I am alive during the day? :D We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam) Because mafia stopped the vig shot. I need to stop this train of thought. 1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out 2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind Let’s get focused here, What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you you could try to do a meta analysis of yourself. This is my second game in the past like 7 years lol how much does a person really change lets be honest.
I’ll see if I have the time after I finish looking at the remaining ppl that I wanna look at including dmb
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On March 08 2024 12:04 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:50 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question
What is more likely to happen?
Assume I am town (I am)
- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith
In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)
Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.
But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,
So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.
So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP. Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night. What happens if I am alive during the day? :D We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam) Because mafia stopped the vig shot. I need to stop this train of thought. 1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out 2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind Let’s get focused here, What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you I think it is better if you ask from “more experienced” players. My playstyle is not exactly the best cup of tea. I wanna know what I can provide for you lol I think this will help town Is Palmar mafia? If so, did his scum buddies tried to save him? Why not start a lynch on cake? I was a scum read at the time, only “strong” players that protected me where koshi and marv.
Mmm okay this is a good idea
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I’ll be back in a couple hours
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Alright Palmar:
He has 11 pages, that’s really surprising to me tbh, again like I said earlier with rels, if I can’t remember what you posted, that’s bad.
On March 05 2024 22:48 Palmar wrote:
I need Sandroba to come convince me his mason buddies aren't just mafia.
I really, really, really don't think marv just tries to kill me without even talking about it.
I really don’t like this post, it has the inbuilt assumption that Sandro is town and the only other post that Palmar made preceding this about Sandro he expressed suspicion at the 3 in the Mason group. It not a natural anything. Palmar is just posting for the sake of posting.
He then comes back to this Sandro read and justifies it after the fact as if he arrived at it later on which is obviously not the case.
On March 06 2024 06:46 Palmar wrote:Marv is very, very, very likely to be mafia. I already didn't love his stance on the Vivax thing and his tone in the thread. Then this line of thinking is really what's sealing the deal. Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 00:13 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 00:12 Palmar wrote:On March 06 2024 00:09 iamperfection wrote:On March 06 2024 00:07 Palmar wrote:On March 06 2024 00:00 marvellosity wrote:
Do you know why I normally tr read you Palmar? No idea. Or well, I do have a guess that it's largely a tone read coupled with some parameters on how I think about the game. Honestly, doesn't really matter to me. But please do explain because I'm going to enjoy watching your backtrack if I flip before you this game. Unless.... You just wanna be my friend and give me a townread. In your mind this is town marv coming after you? I don't know. I want marv to be happier, more excited, and maybe a little friendlier. But I don't really think I can call him mafia for being lazy and boring. He does after all have his little mason society to retreat to. Mostly, I kinda just don't care at the moment. Marv has integrity and respect for the game. He is, usually, to be counted on to continue playing past day 1, and he is good enough that he can be forced to participate usefully or die. Even if I'm kinda suspicious, or at least uncomfortable, about his alignment at the moment, it's not a productive venue for today. Also, his reaction to me actually playing the game is going to be very interesting. Mafia. Should be calling me bad. Isn’t. Mafia. This isn't a valid complaint. I'm not gonna call marv bad when he votes for me. In fact, I kinda understand why he voted for me early on. I had done very little as I was busy yesterday. Today I produced a long filter with all kinds of reads and explanations of them and that did absolutely nothing to budge his opinion on me. I don't really know what sandroba thinks of me but he did come back and kinda changed his mind, at least moved off the scumread a little bit. But marv is dug in. He is not this certain about my alignment if he's town. There should be some doubt in him. I actually think Oats looks a lot better for this observation Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 01:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I’m trying to wrap my head around this Palmar push by marv and what it means for marvs alignment.
I think Palmar has been way more townie this last like 5 pages and that only seems to solidify marvs read Like this is what I expect people to do who don't just want a kill. I don't think marv is bad, I just think he's scum. And if ANYONE buys this logic with me dead, that person is an infinite moron. Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 00:10 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 00:07 Palmar wrote:On March 06 2024 00:00 marvellosity wrote:
Do you know why I normally tr read you Palmar? No idea. Or well, I do have a guess that it's largely a tone read coupled with some parameters on how I think about the game. Honestly, doesn't really matter to me. But please do explain because I'm going to enjoy watching your backtrack if I flip before you this game. Unless.... You just wanna be my friend and give me a townread. You’re fairly close. And those things remain consistent despite your time allowances. And they’re absent here. So you’re mafia. And - i know you know I don’t push for you like this as mafia. As if you are town  I am putting myself in an incredibly difficult spot when the person I know best flips town. It’s a terrible play. The only logical explanation is I am town and I think you are mafia.
You know this. If you were town you’d be much more actively calling me stupid and all those normal things. But you’re not. This is not true.
This read is a lotta words for calling marv scum cause bad. I mean just read it, there’s no logical consistency for why Palmar has such a strong read on Marv based on the evidence he provides
On March 06 2024 19:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 19:47 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 19:44 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 06 2024 19:42 CopCake wrote:
Can someone link me the infamous "DP was mafia" game? Tbh I think dps filter is massive. So big I don't think he's ever had a filter this size before as mafia. If he's mafia he has taken it to heights since unknown. His recent game in which he fooled grack, rayn and idk who else, oats? Ok if you're town and you admit you suck as town, maybe listen to some experience. DP is very good as mafia and can be mafia here. But it's a huge game and we need to prioritize. We're not lynching people who are making sense, making good calls and leading town when we have plenty of lower hanging fruit to go after. You HAVE to be willing to be wrong to be good at town. You can always change your mind later. I was wrong so much last game and ended up back to back supporting lynch on mafia I had called town to win the game last game. And doing so I sheeped/supported people I had (wrongly) called mafia all game. Re-evaluating based on game state is NOT A BAD THING. Killing a town leader with a huge filter and good takes is just tinfoil hat bad play. No need to be a hero when there's administrative tasks to be finished first. If DP is mafia we'll cross that bridge when we get there. You're not using your time efficiently by chasing him at the moment. We'll cross that bridge when we get there. People are really afraid of "getting fooled" by good mafia, but the reality it's so much worse to get fooled by bad mafia. If let's say... TTS and DP are both mafia, I'd much rather be fooled by DP than TTS.
This is just a classic mafia advice post that pushes nothing but appears to be helpful by telling cake to move along
On March 07 2024 00:56 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I entirely dislike that you even have a thought in your head at any point of the game that me and marv are mafia together (which you had as per your posts). And i think it makes you mafia.
Again, I understand you disliking it, but now that I've reminded you that these kind of associative reads don't really matter to me as town, doesn't that change your stance?
This is after Palmar expresses a scumread on rayn, during their conversation. Does this sound like someone who thinks that the person he’s talking to is town? I don’t think so and I think it’s clear he tried to attempt to distance from the flip.
There’s just nothing from day 2 besides using bad math to justify lynching me, no engagement just checking boxes.
This was longer than I thought it was but yeah this is where my current read on Palmar is.
@copcake from what I can tell from the voting around Palmar going from lead lynch to no votes was marv dropping his read along with trfel getting wagoned on but it’s a mixed bag with slam and vivax on that wagon too so I’m not really sure if there was mafia involvement
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On March 08 2024 15:30 Koshi wrote:
I woke up today thinking I am going to vote Oats and we were all wrong on him.
Lol what does this mean
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On March 08 2024 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 15:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 15:30 Koshi wrote:
I woke up today thinking I am going to vote Oats and we were all wrong on him. Lol what does this mean He thinks you are town Actually maybe not
It do be confusing
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On March 08 2024 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 15:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 15:30 Koshi wrote:
I woke up today thinking I am going to vote Oats and we were all wrong on him. Lol what does this mean He thinks you are town Actually maybe not
Thoughts on my Palmar post?
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Yeah I wanna go here
##unvote
##vote: Palmar
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Guess I killed the thread
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On March 08 2024 16:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:54 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:49 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question
What is more likely to happen?
Assume I am town (I am)
- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith
In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)
Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.
But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,
So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.
So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP. Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night. What happens if I am alive during the day? :D We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam) Because mafia stopped the vig shot. I need to stop this train of thought. 1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out 2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind Let’s get focused here, What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you you could try to do a meta analysis of yourself. This is my second game in the past like 7 years lol how much does a person really change lets be honest. Well you keep moaning at me :p
Hey marv thoughts on palmar case when you see it pls
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On March 08 2024 09:04 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 08:58 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 08:55 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.
He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.
I‘d lynch him before Oats.
##Vote marvellosity I’ve alluded to most of it. Rayn discord was quite quiet, the main highlight was seeing a pic from artanis’ wedding and being made to guess who is who. And talking him down off Copcake which I may or may not regret. Sandro discord was very active. We talked about palmar, MZ, Rels, JSL (I got excited about sandro’s read but the claim seems to have scotched that). Sandro thought Koshi was very town as he aligned with him on a bunch of stuff. We talked about MZ, specifically the posts at the end of his first page of filter and the first page of 2nd filter. Sandro had said he wrote MZ off as town for a while after that. We sort of concluded it would be a ballsy scumplay but that MZ could make it. We also talked about MZ stance on town deciding the mayor lynch, sandro talked about how it was quite an old school view what MZ said about it and we left it there. We both thought VE was scummy. I asked sandro to talk palmar off of rayn if sandro was alive. Obviously that sort of resolved itself. And I am aware that makes it sound like I think palmar is town, but it’s more complicated than that. The act of sandro talking to palmar would have been revealing. Jealous town, CC town. Have you read the post I made about MZ? https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28153955What are your thoughts Yes it’s pretty good. The top point was something me and sandro discussed quite a bit. I hadn’t picked up on the CC read progression thing you talked about. The Koshi stuff I’m not so sure
What do you mean about not so sure on the koshi stuff?
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On March 08 2024 17:04 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 16:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 16:56 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 11:54 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:49 iamperfection wrote:On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:
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Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night.
What happens if I am alive during the day?
:D
We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam)
Because mafia stopped the vig shot. I need to stop this train of thought. 1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out 2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind Let’s get focused here, What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you you could try to do a meta analysis of yourself. This is my second game in the past like 7 years lol how much does a person really change lets be honest. Well you keep moaning at me :p Hey marv thoughts on palmar case when you see it pls Meh. If he’s mafia I don’t really think it’s because of stuff in your post. For example he absolutely does the ‘explain the game’ thing when he’s town, it’s NAI. I also think he’d talk to rayn like that and doesn’t mean he’s assuming he’s town. The fact he’s not here is shitty though.
Is there anything that you think that makes him overtly town though?
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On March 08 2024 17:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.
So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.
If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.
You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread. CC is not mafia. Worst case she is traitor and played very cool D1.
Koshi talk to me, where are you at right now
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On March 08 2024 17:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 17:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 17:11 Koshi wrote:On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.
So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.
If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.
You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread. CC is not mafia. Worst case she is traitor and played very cool D1. Koshi talk to me, where are you at right now You have to die because I am too time constrained to reread and get invested. I am quite clueless this game. Those names I posted earlier are my choices but I dont have good reasons. It's more PoE. MZ I think is mafia. Really think he is faking activity when he is here. And he has some towntells he didnt show. (Rage after lynch) Rels is playing a safe scumgame and will be very hard to lynch. Is Jacob confirmed blue gunsmith? Because I also think he might be mafia. Bit if he is blue that is wrong ofc. My townreads are pretty solid I think. (Yes I realise my only towncase this game was on a redcheck) So VE, Dmb, Palmar left (cuz rayn) And then TTS who could be anything.
Jacob is uncced yes. Unfortunate you can’t play but it is what it is
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