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On March 06 2024 19:23 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 19:18 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 19:15 Palmar wrote:On March 06 2024 19:13 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 19:10 Palmar wrote:On March 06 2024 19:07 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 19:02 Palmar wrote:On March 06 2024 13:57 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 13:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 13:42 CopCake wrote:
Mafia
DP
Iamp
Vivax
this is so bad it deserves to be lynched. Why? Explain me why is Darth town? Because he did a catastrophe yesterday. Did you read DPs analysis of why I am town? I may be hard pocketed but I did point out that he is right for the right reasons. Mafia can do that. You should know this. Mafia can be right, but because they don't have to actually think to reach the right conclusion they're rarely right for the right reasons. DP is very high on my town list. Some of the stuff I like him for isn't even alignment indicative (and some is). He thinks reasonably about the game and is very active. I don't think going after him is a viable avenue. False. I have been mafia and I have lynched people for the right people and I have called town for the right reasons. I think is harder when you are town to come to the right reasons. No you haven't, you just think you have. Make a case on DP if you want it so much. I've made my case as to why I think he's town. And stop arguing with me about how mafia works, I know how it works. I have before. And I dont think is benefical for town to act like “crazy lady” If you think DP is town because “he called me town for the right reasons” then… And you sound sure I havent. I suck as town, I am good scum. And to be fair, those are inherently linked. Think of for example Vivax this game. Let's assume he's mafia and got himself elected mayor on a fake claim. The ONLY reason he can do that is because town collectively agrees he can be bad as town. It's ALWAYS bad as town to claim anything on day 1. But because we know Vivax can be bad as town, we are completely unable to hold him to the standard, so he can get away with this kinda stuff. If someone that is consistently good as town tried what Vivax did tried the same thing, I'd be screaming for a lynch. Anyway, that's enough mafia theorycrafting. Need to focus on game.
But isnt vivax one of those “keep alive because he can be good” guys?
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On March 06 2024 19:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 19:21 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 19:15 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 19:15 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 19:10 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 19:09 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 19:04 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 18:56 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 18:52 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2024 13:42 CopCake wrote:
I came with some conclusions
Town:
Koshi
Slam
Rels
Marv
MZ
Oats
Feels town
VE
Mafia
DP
Iamp
Vivax
The rest are wild cards
I disagree with this enough for it to be town What is wrong with it sweet pie? I’d be shocked if iamp or Vivax are mafia. Wouldn’t be shocked by DP but I don’t think so either What about my town pile? I’m not sure about Rels or MZ. I think Rels felt genuine and interested, i think he could have easily blended with people if he was mafia. You think he’s had an impact? In the hurricane that was happening, he didnt have an impact. Explain me from your PoV why Rels shouldnt be considered town? It’s more that I don’t know why he should
Gonna re read him to see the whole big pic, I liked what I saw from him when I was catching up in the morning.
If posts could be pictures, he was like a sunny open field window.
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Can someone link me the infamous "DP was mafia" game?
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On March 06 2024 19:44 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 19:42 CopCake wrote:
Can someone link me the infamous "DP was mafia" game? Tbh I think dps filter is massive. So big I don't think he's ever had a filter this size before as mafia. If he's mafia he has taken it to heights since unknown.
His recent game in which he fooled grack, rayn and idk who else, oats?
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On March 06 2024 16:16 JacobStrangelove wrote:The case for Koshi. So I just decided to filter Koshi because he seems to be the very town seeming lynch pin holding the somewhat suspicious town group (MZ/CC in the corner together and very first page of his filter he scum slips hard and nobody notices. Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:07 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 02:35 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
I’m currently not looking outside my mason partners for mayor. Sandro is scummy though He’s townie. He has pursued me in the chat in a very townie way. Also this is dumb. Good info for when you flip town. But now all this is dumb. Whisperer mafia only need to fight 1 townie. While if he posts in the thread he needs to fight 16. Mason stuff is useless. Keep it to yourselves. WHEN MARV FLIPS TOWN HEY? WHEN MARV FLIPS TOWN?? Not if Marv flips town when, how do you know Marv’s alignment huh Koshi? Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 22:17 Koshi wrote:
I wanted to be mafia this game. Or wouldnt have mind.
But town is also fine.
I am going to play normal this game. So I would make a good mayor. Because I will be lock town. Also this type of post always rubs me the wrong way, Oh I’m not mafia tee hee. No pointless bad. Not even a funny “Oh I’m not mafia” just a generic oh damn guys I’m not mafia oh well straight to asking for Mayor. Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 01:12 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 01:09 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 01:06 Koshi wrote:
I am gonna battle rayn. You don't think he is likely town? I havent read anything yet from before I first posted. Masoning marv is leaning town. Marv gets good rep, marv isnt saying rayn is mafia. So probably I will have to battle town rayn. That's ok. I will battle him with scumreads. Also early is convinced Rayn is town lack of doubt here is concerning. Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:38 Koshi wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
[quote]May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor? Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started. Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before. Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day. Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no? And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor? I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind. Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1. Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch. I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. Second wagon is often a townie as well. Mafia waits till town suggest a second town wagon and then sits on those 2 wagons. Then town vigis or kills second wagon as is tradition. I still think it is protown to want to give town 2 lynches, as it always provides information. But don't use the wrong reasons. This is frankly just semantic game state posting. Keep in mind Koshi entered the thread fairly late (simply due to timezones) there’s a lot to go off and this is what the focus is not scum hunting. Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:47 Koshi wrote:I wrote this; decided not to post yet to see follow up On March 04 2024 12:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
So the game started not even an hour ago and people making here already Townreads. How is this possible. I would never give somebody a townread this early.
And how are we supposed to choose a mayor who should be town so early in the game Don't like this because it breaks the flow of the recent good posts made by iamps & DP See this: On March 04 2024 12:52 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2024 12:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
So the game started not even an hour ago and people making here already Townreads. How is this possible. I would never give somebody a townread this early.
And how are we supposed to choose a mayor who should be town so early in the game upset that town are making town reads? In addition I like how iamp handled Oats. With humor and progression in reading Oats. And I liked how iamp tried to steer away town from retardation around theorycrafting the second wagon. So iamp lock town till D3 BUT OH BOY WE GOT IAMP RAY AND MARV ALL TOWN LOCKED IN THE FIRST PAGE THIS MAN’S PSYCHIC! Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:08 Koshi wrote:On March 04 2024 13:51 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2024 13:49 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 13:48 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2024 13:46 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 13:39 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2024 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 13:36 iamperfection wrote:
dp being obtuse and ignoring me is extremely suspicious imo I literally just replied to you, and I am being super smart, not obtuse. Just FYI. i dont think your being smart at all. its a non post imo. You trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill is very suspicious. Why do you think its a non-post? because its basically just banter. Disagree. But DMB looks better since then so I don't really care anymore. excuse me. What has dmb done better. You were winning this entire chain till that last line from iamp. Did you answer DP? And with winning I mean looking pretty townie. man Dp’s also town everyone is town in Koshi land, Please like me guys I’m calling you all town. This said I will point out at this point they do go into a scum read on meatbaby for sowing distrust. Then goes in on TTS but I mean kinda everyone did even if TTS is scum I would bus them so hard if I was on a mafia team with them. Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:29 Koshi wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.
Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.
Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day. Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no? And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor? I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind. Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1. Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch. I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. The problem with this entire conversation is that Tfrel looks smart and MZ bad. But it is the only thing Tfrel does in this entire timespan. Look smart. But he isn't doing anything that helps town find mafia. I don't like it at all. Then he also thinks Tfrel looks smart but isn’t being helpful. Which isn’t overly suspicious but good to note with the lynch result. I mean not wrong but an easy call to make as mafia if you know they are town. Okay I’ll be honest I got bored and the case kinda fell off but I see you just entered the thread Koshi. Mostly I’m concerned with the first part. Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:07 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 02:35 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
I’m currently not looking outside my mason partners for mayor. Sandro is scummy though He’s townie. He has pursued me in the chat in a very townie way. Also this is dumb. Good info for when you flip town. But now all this is dumb. Whisperer mafia only need to fight 1 townie. While if he posts in the thread he needs to fight 16. Mason stuff is useless. Keep it to yourselves. Scum Slip Koshi? What’s happening here?
I think Koshi meant here that he didnt care for the wishperers/mason chats and he has had Marv as town. So when Marv dies then the whisperers chat will have relevance to him.
It is not a slip.
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On March 06 2024 19:47 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 19:30 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 19:23 Palmar wrote:On March 06 2024 19:18 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 19:15 Palmar wrote:On March 06 2024 19:13 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 19:10 Palmar wrote:On March 06 2024 19:07 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 19:02 Palmar wrote:On March 06 2024 13:57 CopCake wrote:
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Why?
Explain me why is Darth town?
Because he did a catastrophe yesterday. Did you read DPs analysis of why I am town? I may be hard pocketed but I did point out that he is right for the right reasons. Mafia can do that. You should know this. Mafia can be right, but because they don't have to actually think to reach the right conclusion they're rarely right for the right reasons. DP is very high on my town list. Some of the stuff I like him for isn't even alignment indicative (and some is). He thinks reasonably about the game and is very active. I don't think going after him is a viable avenue. False. I have been mafia and I have lynched people for the right people and I have called town for the right reasons. I think is harder when you are town to come to the right reasons. No you haven't, you just think you have. Make a case on DP if you want it so much. I've made my case as to why I think he's town. And stop arguing with me about how mafia works, I know how it works. I have before. And I dont think is benefical for town to act like “crazy lady” If you think DP is town because “he called me town for the right reasons” then… And you sound sure I havent. I suck as town, I am good scum. And to be fair, those are inherently linked. Think of for example Vivax this game. Let's assume he's mafia and got himself elected mayor on a fake claim. The ONLY reason he can do that is because town collectively agrees he can be bad as town. It's ALWAYS bad as town to claim anything on day 1. But because we know Vivax can be bad as town, we are completely unable to hold him to the standard, so he can get away with this kinda stuff. If someone that is consistently good as town tried what Vivax did tried the same thing, I'd be screaming for a lynch. Anyway, that's enough mafia theorycrafting. Need to focus on game. But isnt vivax one of those “keep alive because he can be good” guys? Nope
I havent experienced that. People respect Vivax.
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On March 06 2024 19:54 Palmar wrote:
For the record, I don't think he's mafia. I think DP is town.
Because he pocketed you. And I am open to things, ofc I know I cant be 100% right, but my insight for being good scum is what helps town. I can tell when some actions look more for “save face” or when a night action cant clear someone.
Thing is, DP has been doing opposite things of he claims he will do.
-DP says: I dont wanna be mayor because I am burn out of my last game
- Reallity: DP started a wagon on someone WHO DIDNT EVEN HAVE votes, and then went after JAT. So much for being burn out, no?
Someone who says and claims is tired created chaos.
I need to see how was his mafia game to have better context but I can bet he wins the heart of “big players” with “good arguments”
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Will take a break and do work stuff.
See you in like 4 or 5 hours.
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On March 06 2024 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why do you*
I dont think he is town.
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On March 06 2024 22:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 21:40 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why do you* I dont think he is town. Its impossible youthink DP is pocketing Palmar if you dont think Palmar is town, if youre town. So i guess youre mafia.
No, i came to that conclusion later.
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Rayn, if you think I am mafia for that then I guess you are mafia.
You should know me better than anyone.
I was trying to understand Palmars approch because he came to me nicely trying to teach me “how to play mafia” so I put in the shoes to understand why he thinks DP is town if he is town.
So in that interaction, considering Palmar as town I said “you consider DP town because he pocketed you”.
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And I got to the conclusion that Palmar is mafia because “DP thinks I am town for the right reasons”
I shared my opinion that a person can do that as mafia, for me it is easier to do that as mafia because you can find all the right reasons easier than town.
Like if that is the only reason Palmar thinks DP is town then…
Besides DP first part of the game was meh, I said before he was lacking bravado and he excused himself for being tired from last game. Yet came at night and did the opposite.
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And you know I find appeal to emotion tasteless, I brag a lot of being very good scum.
So, go ahead and lynch me next day. I am just going to say I am dissapointed.
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On March 06 2024 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 14:10 CopCake wrote:
Like it makes a lot of sense in my head that DP wanted Tfrel out.
The way the lynch started was instigated by DP but the first vote was by Iamp.
Same with Vivax. He wanted Tfrel out but didnt move a finger until later when someone else did the Dirty work.
I think that Iamp have to do it because if not, the wagon wouldnt have started.
Anyways, I have problems only with DMB believing Vivax 100% claim but other than that she is being her usual self. Why do you say this if you think all of DP/Vivax/iamp are mafia? 1) What does it matter who "has to start the wagon"? 2) why do they have to start a wagon if palmar is town? If palmar is mafia, why are you not calling him mafia, because THATS THE BASIS OF YOUR CASE AGAINST THOSE THREE!!
You know how my theory crafting works. That is not like a locked 100% works.
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For isntance, that list was based on how people acted to the end of the day before the lynch.
Ie. No one is questioning vivax:
Happa probably gave up because he is mafia
Tfrel is hiding because he is mafia
Rayn is crying in copcakes arms
Nobody touches my girlfriend because she gives good head
I am so right and you are idiots hur hur hur
When vivax was mafia with me he did the same. 🤷🏽♀️
He even said something like he would avenge Dumb.
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On March 06 2024 22:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:37 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 14:10 CopCake wrote:
Like it makes a lot of sense in my head that DP wanted Tfrel out.
The way the lynch started was instigated by DP but the first vote was by Iamp.
Same with Vivax. He wanted Tfrel out but didnt move a finger until later when someone else did the Dirty work.
I think that Iamp have to do it because if not, the wagon wouldnt have started.
Anyways, I have problems only with DMB believing Vivax 100% claim but other than that she is being her usual self. Why do you say this if you think all of DP/Vivax/iamp are mafia? 1) What does it matter who "has to start the wagon"? 2) why do they have to start a wagon if palmar is town? If palmar is mafia, why are you not calling him mafia, because THATS THE BASIS OF YOUR CASE AGAINST THOSE THREE!! You know how my theory crafting works. That is not like a locked 100% works. yes but human brain works like that. youre building associations here between those people, but you are not building the association of "why" they do that. it's scummy.
Sees people before end of the night
Makes lists of people who is scumiests and good bois
Will work on the whys later because of work
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That is how events happened
Then
Palmar came and asked questions, cc tried to see his view but palmar failed horribly.
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And if we go by that
Cake calls mafia Palmar and DP/vivax/iamp
You call mafia Palmar
So I guess you assume I throwed my teamate there just because?
I am GOOD SCUM, I do not make MISTAKES like that, I always try to save my scumates, remember how pissed I got at GB once?
Do you remember how I fuck up hard for trying to save rels when we were mafia together? I convinced HF not to lynch Rels.
You can absolutely acuse me of being ilogical but NEVER of bussing my teams just because.
And this, at least, vivax and marv needs to agree.
And rels.
And GB.
And anyone who has been mafia with me.
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On March 06 2024 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:45 CopCake wrote:
That is how events happened
Then
Palmar came and asked questions, cc tried to see his view but palmar failed horribly.
what did palmar fail in?
Why he reads DP town.
“Because he thinks i am town for right reasons” is stupid.
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On March 06 2024 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:49 CopCake wrote:
And if we go by that
Cake calls mafia Palmar and DP/vivax/iamp
You call mafia Palmar
So I guess you assume I throwed my teamate there just because?
You didnt call Palmar mafia when you called DP/vivax/iamp mafia originally.
Because i wrote the names of the people who caught my eye the most.
So now answer me.
Do I throw my scummates, yes or not?
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