TL Endures Mafia

On April 07 2023 21:07 Vivax wrote:
/in

tentatively

Curious if this finishes b4 the Brit Emp II analysis

On April 10 2023 05:02 Vivax wrote:
If the singularity already happened, would we notice ? Or anyone else ? Maybe it's silent and just instantly replaced everything ^^

Not politics please

On May 17 2023 03:32 Koshi wrote:
Deep

On May 23 2023 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Slam, Finland in July or scum? You pick!

On May 23 2023 18:27 DarthPunk wrote:
Is it usually this quiet these days? I played in the activity spam era, gonna be hard to catch mafia like this. Does everyone know the game started??

On May 23 2023 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh i have been lurking all the time i just didnt have anything to say.

On May 23 2023 19:32 marvellosity wrote:

It’s a bit weird the sensation that everyone grew up a little over the years

On May 23 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote:

If you were mafia, would you post at the same time on this thread if you were discussing the game with your mafia buddies on Discord at the same time?

On May 23 2023 20:02 Koshi wrote:
Damn. I am already thinking marv is mafia. This might become a problem.

On May 23 2023 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

boring

super boring


Here i thought he was going somewhere but then i realised i was being super stupid and that makes him super stupid and boring.... idk, just not smart.

On May 23 2023 21:22 marvellosity wrote:

I said I wasn’t going to get into this but as you all know I can’t help myself.
1. As discussed
2. Okay?
3. I’m actually conscious of the fact I already have quite a large filter. I’m going to have points (assuming I survive long enough) where I’m unable to be too active, so it’s in my best interests that the thread doesn’t explode too much. And I’m too good at making large threads.

I think I am bang on that if town make a concerted effort to discern meatbaby’s alignment early on, that will be a good result for town.

On May 23 2023 23:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey I was busy last night and didn't check to see if the game started and caught up now!
Marv looks town to me? I think he would of folded as mafia considering he is known for that given the pressure he was getting from DP but he continued posting his thoughts like I remembered how he was in XXX in 2015.
VE is null he hasn't posted anything since a few hours ago will wait for judgement on him.
dmb is null the stuff for why she scumreading Vivax is very odd?
Koshi is town so far he been posting like I remembered how he was when I played back then.
Rayn looks town I like the pressure on dmb from him so far and waiting for a conclusion of his pressure on her.
DP I didn't like his early posting towards Marv (Even suggesting Marv is mafia??) and then gave a hard townread on dmb?His evolution of his read on Marv does seem organic. Null for now I guess.

On May 24 2023 00:36 Vivax wrote:


Nothing in particular.

You come across as townie tone-wise, that‘s about it for new stuff.

Slam I couldn‘t read either way.

On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend.

I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread.

Vivax has been unimpressive so far
DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread.
Marv has been almost useless.

I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention.

On May 24 2023 02:33 marvellosity wrote:
Also, Slam, as much as I’m enjoying your praise, I’m not entirely sure it’s helping me out :p

On May 24 2023 04:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Marv the socratic method only works if you actually come up with a conclusion:

It doesn't feel like you're trying to draw out reasoning, it feels like you're just filling space by asking questions and then not really offering interpretations on the answers you get. You've had several people respond to your questions and rather than make meaning of the information that they've given you just continue asking questions. I'm all for asking questions but at some point your posts just start to sound like this:



It's really funny to me that you wrote this post because I absolutely hate when people do what you're talking about, I call it Contributing Without Contributing and I consider it a fairly decent scumtell for most players, regardless of how experienced or inexperienced they are. Given the fact that you really haven't come to any real conclusions based on your questions, it's starting to feel as though they're simply a method to create the appearance of activity without having to actually provide concrete reads or say something of substance.

I really wouldn't have a problem with constant questions if you did something with it but you still haven't generated any real reads from it which is a warning sign to me.





This line of posts bothers me because it feels like you're setting up for a soft push on DarthPunk but you're not willing to actually stand behind it. You constantly undercut your own read, to me that's scummy. Either stand behind your read or don't reveal it until you have more certainty, otherwise it feels like mafia leaving behind little post-it notes to muddle up the thread, you'll be easily positioned to vote DP but you'll never have to accept responsibility if he flips green.



It's funny that you bring up your questioning as a defense because that's exactly what I was expecting to hear when I was first reading the thread. I'll reference back to my earlier point that your activity hasn't been really pro-town and more an attempt to look involved without having to put your neck on the line.

And as to those points not meshing... the discussion was useful because it revealed you as being useless.
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 24 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Catch up post:



You don't think it is possible that scum!marv would be able to post under pressure. I also remember Marv just folding as scum a few times back in the day, but I always considered that a symptom of burnout more than anything else because I also recall some monster scum games from him.

Is there any other reason that marv looks town to you?




I don't like this because it feels like it is a gross simplification of what actually happened and ignores a lot of the nuance. I feel like I have been fairly open with my thought processes and ideas as they have changed, so I am unsure how this is genuinely where you could land in your analysis.



lol. Its a trauma response.






I don't think this is helpful. I would rather see some empathetic engagement and give her some space to do other things.



I am really struggling with posts like this in this game. I get the need to flex and what have you but don't you think making your reads and reasoning clear for others is an important part of town play?

I just want people to share a clear position with shared reasoning and then have that either stand up to scrutiny or not.

Otherwise I will just keep asking apparently stupid questions.

Such as: what read is this? why is it so obvious?



What post are you referring to?

This is really unhelpful, i'd love to be able to understand your thought processes but I just can't without enough information.

QUOTE]On May 24 2023 02:46 LightningStrike wrote:

Your mb and Marv read stuff seem to contradict each other? Vivax though seems pretty townie atm. Why is he unimpressive to you?

On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.

1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes

I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.

On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.

MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that.

On May 24 2023 03:47 marvellosity wrote:

So you’d follow a newbie you are pretty sure is townie over a vet (yourself) who you presumably know is townie? Okay VE

On May 24 2023 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you don want to lynch EITHER of your scumreads, but instead follow a total newbie even onto one of your townreads?

On May 24 2023 04:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

It's not your job to make reads for others, its your job as a townie to come up with your own reads based on the thread as you read it. If you're asking questions it should be with the intention of refining or correcting your own reads.

You still haven't been able to provide even one "I think I'm leaning scum on person X" post that you're willing to stand behind. DarthPunk doesn't count because you're not willing to stand behind it.

On May 24 2023 04:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Hmmm ok I can't townread you anymore. This is... not great if you think someone is mafia, even if they're the most mafia ever and it's gonna be a quiet day because they're so obvious there won't be much discussion, you still lynch the people you are sure are scum. Like if you believe marv is mafia you should be wanting to lynch him ASAP even if for some reason you feel his anti lurker lynching stance is helping you.

On May 24 2023 04:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

The way you help townies make reads is by providing your own and then discussing them, not by just asking questions for the sake of questions.

On May 24 2023 05:02 Koshi wrote:

Did you guys plan this mindmeld in mafia!Discord?

On May 24 2023 05:50 Koshi wrote:


I can always lynch marv but the mindmeld with rayn was a total win. That is so hard to do as mafia.

On May 24 2023 06:24 die_meatbaby wrote:

Sorry was working last few hours...
You really think they going to make a new girl directly mafia? I heard most of you weren't playing in years in this game is like legendary rematch after years... you think they taking the chance to ruin this game and make a new member (who never played) a mafia?

On May 24 2023 06:28 Koshi wrote:
Also we are perfectly capable ruining this game without your help so no help needed.

On May 24 2023 06:30 Koshi wrote:
Do you feel lost in the game? Do you need some advise on how to proceed?

On May 24 2023 06:31 Koshi wrote:
Finding towns is equally important as to find mafia. Do you have strong townreads and if you do, who and why?

On May 24 2023 06:32 Koshi wrote:
I just want to know how you think and approach the game.

On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.

On May 24 2023 06:49 Vivax wrote:
VE seems like another VE compared to how he approached the game initially. Might rethink the TR down the road. I take issue in the fact that his first post had that ‚aha‘ component while the followup ended up all over the place with little regard as to who the vote ends up on.

As for MB, I don‘t read the derpy reasoning as AI. Knowing the character of the player, it could be mild trolling or a beginner‘s approach to pressuring me.

I‘m probably biased, but the mech talk appears disingenous enough to be town imo. I prefer to leave that slot to others to figure out. By others I mostly mean my townreads Koshi, Rayn, LS atm.

Got to filter MZ still.

On May 24 2023 07:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

I have plenty of people I'd rather try and lynch D1 instead of you anyway.

On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:

Chezinu // seems like town

On May 24 2023 07:29 Koshi wrote:
Also imho marv is looking more and more as a sponge absoring information and potentially making it rain knowledge while dp is just sitting in marv's ass doing nothing.

On May 24 2023 07:29 Koshi wrote:

So this 1 mafia in marv/dp theory is not so horrible.

On May 24 2023 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People i don't want to lynch:
Koshi
Lightningstrike
marvellosity

Probably not Darthpunk either. From what i know DP is very aware of the state of the game when he is mafia, not afraid to engage in conversations with his scumbuddies, basically he tends to look very town especially early on. This game i feel like DP is more like.. clueless(?) at times, and i think it's more likely genuine "i don't know what's going on" rather than "i pretend i don't really know what's going on". If DP would be mafia he would probably be mafia with two peopel who haven't posted yet.

VE goes to the same category. I don't really agree with his conclusions, hell i don't even know why he writes what he writes but i don't really think VE as mafia would write what he writes.

Vivax looks active and i'd say more likely town too. I didn't hate his last post, although there is a creeping suspicion about him and meatbaby goin like "hey can i say this in thread" -- "yeah it's fine, noone will believe you anyways and it's great distancing anyways", but i don't really have any other reason to think Vivax is mafia atm, and that reasoning in itself is stupid.

Would lyncherino:

meatbaby -- what Koshi said

MZ is tricky. Last couple (three?) games i have been mafia and every time MZ goes to post something D1 i go like "man how the hell can anyone think anything like that (he has been town)?!?!?!" and then i go "man, how the hell can anyone think MZ is mafia?!?!?" and everyone wants to lynch him.. I don't get the same feeling at all here. Maybe it's because i am not mafia and i am looking at the game differently with not all the information. I can see MZ genuinely thinking marv is mafia but something just doesn't sit right there.

Slam is the least of these three. It's not really alignment indicative for him to "cling" on someone and answer to (all of) their posts, but nothing really makes me think he is town. Probably not mafia together with marv is my best conclusion atm.

Everyone who has not posted can also die for all i care. Or anyone who has posted and i had not in my list.

On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:

Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started
Alakasla // same as sentinel
Chezinu // seems like town
4) Vivax // mafia
5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town
6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet
7) Onegu // also not shure
8) Koshi // def. town
10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia
11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know
12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts)
13) VisceraEyes // town


But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me

On May 24 2023 13:27 DarthPunk wrote:


Exactly.

On May 24 2023 13:48 DarthPunk wrote:


DO you have any idea why people are giving him town reads?

On May 24 2023 14:48 DarthPunk wrote:


good band, I have seen them live, I've got a spare room if you wanna take a trip

On May 24 2023 17:07 DarthPunk wrote:


There are context clues. What you were posting about with Rayn being 3/3 or whatever.


I can’t say I’m a fan of the tendency for people to be deliberately vague that has seemingly developed over the years.

On May 24 2023 17:07 Koshi wrote:

The tinfoil is that Vivax his "relax guys she is just trolling" is rooted in truth because the ridiculous "YOU CAN NEVER WIN AGAINST ME VIVAX" spiel she did was in fact trolling as they are mafia together.

As you know. My tinfoil is always strapped on firmly.

On May 24 2023 17:12 Vivax wrote:
The Chez TR made no sense in that list, aye. As the read on me/rayn still doesn‘t. At this point it doesn’t seem to just be a tease or troll read of sorts anymore.

I wouldn‘t say massive troll @DP. Aside from obvious shitposts, I think it‘s mostly her being in way over her head.

Game takes practice and we‘re routined players, so I believe that regardless of alignment, she doesn‘t know how to gather player sentiment and just posts half-baked stuff in the hopes that it holds some value to others.

Which is behaviour I would usually place as mafia, but with newbie card + bias + language barrier I don‘t really feel like going down that road. I feel like I brought her into this game so I’m also responsible for ensuring it’s fun :p

Oh and LS seemes town for tone to me , I don’t rely on much else when it comes to him this early in the game (but I won’t forget he slipped by as mafia once in I think the last game where Damdred was also in).

Meanwhile I take some issue with MZs tone, at times. It’s all very well written and the angles he shoots hold merit but appears tendentious/tunnely in approach.

That said, GTMH I‘d currently vote with my TRs Koshi/rayn and maybe marv no matter what.

On May 24 2023 17:16 Vivax wrote:


Why does that make marv town ?

On May 24 2023 17:22 DarthPunk wrote:


I remember when you were feared as scum. I think it was before Rayn joined though. After he joined I remember you just not trying that hard lol.

On May 24 2023 17:44 marvellosity wrote:
Why are 3 of the 5 votes on non posters? Come on guys.

On May 24 2023 23:28 Vivax wrote:


But weren‘t you just explaining in the last paragraph that it doesn‘t exonerate marv ?

On May 24 2023 17:51 DarthPunk wrote:


Do you think she would be coachable if she was mafia? Because why would anyone let her do that?

On May 24 2023 18:52 die_meatbaby wrote:


i will pull of pants from all of you and then you can see what i can see.... JUST DICKS AND ASSHOLES

On May 24 2023 20:38 Chezinu wrote:

The game starting last year threw me off. I was focused on the 23rd, which was last night, which would have made it Tuesday (yesterday) if it was 2023.

On May 24 2023 23:32 Vivax wrote:


This one:
They display this behavior that is too good to be scum without being greatly self detrimental to the team in a way that may not be able to recover.

It reads like you entertain marv + DP as scum being helpful but bot sp helpful as to box themselves in

On May 24 2023 23:43 die_meatbaby wrote:
sometimes my mind rises above my head and i got mean (specily in the morning) So sorry if I hurt anybody with my language. I forget that not every body can just turn of the pc and just don´t think about what people in the internet writing, becauce i give never f0ck about it, but other people do so sorry for the mean words. So to everybody don´t take this chat here serioús it´s just game and don´t feel offendet in rl about this.

Still think V is mafia. He is just writing save things and try to be polite. too save...

I always compare things with scenarios i expirenced
When i was 16 and back then i smoked some stuff, had it on me when i was walking trough the village. One time 4 Policeman goeing next to me i. I was goeing first to them and ask a silly question would be like never suspect for 16 year old girl. It worked. They didn´t controll me but the other guys at the park got controlled about brokkoli. It was more save to talk to the police then just be quiet. V is making here the same thing. He talks a little to chat here but not to much. He don´t but much efford to get a mafia or tow, because he already know

As mafia i would to the same thing and just be calm and mildly communicative with Townies. I would never be so active as a mafia. would be dump. The more you talk the more they know

Marv is also more like save communivating here. But don´t want to say he is m directly. Still i don´t know what to think about him. Going back and Filter him just makes it more hard for me to believe he is what he seems to be. Right now for me is marv town but could change quickly.

On May 25 2023 01:36 Vivax wrote:


That‘s about my reaction.
Re previous post: So I take you think DP and marv could be teamed but somehow marv is supatown or am I misreading that

On May 25 2023 02:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's so tite how you think she's scummy for 101 shit, but then defend her honor based on 101 shit. Like you think she's scummy for not knowing how to play, but she could be town because she doesn't know how to play.

Like, I don't care about your pointless meta analysis of what you think the mods might do. I'm talking about your play this game - you don't give a shit about finding out one way or another about your friend's alignment, you're just trying to find an easy lynch and are going to lengths to justify it. THAT makes you mafia. Not whatever bullshit you think you're responding to in my post.

On May 25 2023 04:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
This chez push is odd to me, if we're gonna do deadline shenanigans onto a lurker I'd much rather do lightningstrike

On May 25 2023 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv let me know when you're about to get off. Youre my top town aside from Koshi and DP is prolly town too and i don't even know what others are anymore, but if we can't figure this out here then we're super bad or i am wrong and even more bad, or all mafia are non-posters and game is invalid.

On May 25 2023 05:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:

hmm also Australia it seems.. avoiding me?

On May 25 2023 06:14 Onegu wrote:
I already have votes on me how interesting...

On May 25 2023 06:44 die_meatbaby wrote:
i am just scared to leek private things about v. don´t want to hurt anybody here

On May 25 2023 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshius = Koshi?
He is in Belgium but that's not far away either.

On May 25 2023 08:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Got any reads you'd like to share slam? I just looked at your filter and it was not as fun to read as I was expecting.

On May 25 2023 08:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Im down with a vivax lynch, for a variety of reasons.

1,) I feel like several times he has been trying to establish that he will go on some kind of revenge arc if DMB flips town, particularly with Marv

2.) I think if DMB is town, then there is probably some merit in the out of thread stuff she has been alluding to with him.

3.) he has been trying to establish a metric for his alignment equating to active = town, even though I think he would be active in this circumstance as either alignment due to the DMB stuff and there is also the fact that DMB stated he was lurking the thread for hours, at which point activity increased.

4.) I think rayn and DMB are correct in that he is not suspicious or seem like he is curious about solving the game, which in his own words is the very driver of the aforementioned activity tell he apparently has as town,.

##Vote Vivax

On May 25 2023 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote:

NO SHEEP ME WTF

On May 25 2023 09:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Yeah I think I've been hammered. GL guys, don't forget that Vivax was runner up, please look at Marv again, and don't let LightningStrike/Onegu/DMP skate by with blatant anti town play.

Gonna enjoy my dinner in peace.

On May 25 2023 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:

*feebly raises hand* Please kind slam lend me your voice.

On May 25 2023 09:53 Chezinu wrote:
TLDR?

On May 25 2023 09:53 DarthPunk wrote:


You literally quoted my posts where I gave my reasons, but I'm filter diving him now, to double check.

I'm nervous because the wagons are so close, that mafia could lynch the 'Not Mafia' player if there is one town one mafia in VIVAX/MZ

On May 25 2023 10:20 Chezinu wrote:

In hotel now, gave presentation today. Will be on vacation 24 hours from now.

On May 25 2023 10:27 DarthPunk wrote:
I also think the LS pop into the thread, get on the MZ wagon and nope out again is sus as hell,

On May 25 2023 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote:

Ya I'm not sure about LS I don't have much meta with them. Maybe I consult the library overnight, Kita probably has a list somewhere.

On May 25 2023 10:46 Chezinu wrote:

10 106

On May 25 2023 10:50 Chezinu wrote:
So why we lynching Vivax?

On May 25 2023 11:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I guess if I squint I could maybe see that as a soft PR claim? idk now I feel like shit.

On May 25 2023 11:26 DarthPunk wrote:


Maybe they are both town.

Then what?

On May 25 2023 16:31 marvellosity wrote:

Why didn’t you vote with me?

On May 25 2023 20:32 Koshi wrote:



I will need to analyse this further.

So rayn made a comment that opened the gate to make 6 people vote Vivax. And all these posts I read in his filter saying MZ was a better lynch in his eyes were inefficient.

So which voodoo did he use to make that 1 message so much more powerful?

I shall need to contact the Brown for this.

On May 25 2023 20:42 Koshi wrote:

I am glad we kept you.

On May 25 2023 22:53 marvellosity wrote:

Sucker for a little bit of emotion eh?

On May 26 2023 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Everyone who thinks this post is very townie farewell post needs to explain why. If i read correctly Slam and DP(?) at least thought so. Because:

(1) Doesnt say anything. There is no reason at that point why Meapak and Vivax couldnt even be mafia together. They are voting each other because they have to, and neither of them is the engineer behind each other's lynch.

(2) If Meapak flips mafia this says absolutely nothing because noone is gonna look at marv after Meapak flips mafia. IT's extremely safe thing to say in case Meapak is mafia so in retrospect it should not in itself be considered as townie.

(3) Same thing here. If Meapak flips mafia, LS is 99% of the time town. The two other people are already under (at least some) suspicion so like once again, this doesn't give anything new and is just a really safe thing to say so noone's alignment is actually gonna get figured out.

Like it's a meek post with no insight in Meapak is town, and exactly what Meapak would say as mafia to not give away any information.

On May 26 2023 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's amazing how Darthpunk is going full Holyflare after a mistake he himself made. I have never ever encouraged anyone to vote for Vivax, the only thing close is when i am considering between MZ/Onegu/Vivax, and even there i am talking directly to marv and noone else. That happens about 4 hours before i leave the tread and after that i continuously say i don't think vivax will flip mafia and i am going to stay on MZ. Yet somehow Darthpunk (and mebaby) have somehow come to conclusion i almost lead a lynch on Vivax??? And now apparently Koshi is mafia??? Because DP voted wrong. It's pretty amazing to read this.

Darthpunk please don't go full Holyflare if youre town.

On May 26 2023 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
Should I remember this Holylare reference?

On May 26 2023 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Every time he leads a mislynch D1 he blames everyone in the other wagon.

On May 26 2023 05:04 die_meatbaby wrote:


Sure you have you made the one post where you was writing Ogenu acting to strong to be town and Vivax is less paranoid than normal to be town... this post made change minds from other players. You didn't vote on V but this post got fucking important at this time. And you watched how people where voting for V after this instead of MZ.

On May 26 2023 05:10 marvellosity wrote:

Is this really what happened or did people just go for VE’s passion in the thread at the time.

Take responsibility for your own shit and your own vote people

On May 26 2023 05:16 Chezinu wrote:
Vivax wakes up!!!!! Wake up Vivax!!!! I NEEDS YOU!!!!

Doctor!!!

On May 26 2023 05:14 Alakaslam wrote:
https://youtu.be/q9vY_vRmve8

D meatbaby what is this song about? I am genuinely curious

For later

On May 26 2023 09:42 Chezinu wrote:
It seems soo much happens when I was away and when I looks time freezes. Town thrives by day but by night all is quite but the echoes of my voice.

On May 26 2023 05:12 marvellosity wrote:

Never really paid that much attention to all the weird policies and rules, it’s more like side show entertainment. Patterns are made and they are broken

On May 26 2023 10:20 VisceraEyes wrote:

I apologize one and all for leading the town to this tragedy, but we press on.

Obviously everyone on the Vivax lynch is in the hot seat. I led the lynch but because I'll be doing my utmost to figure this shitshow I created out, I'll go ahead and hope to not be the lynch D2. So that leaves meat, DP, MZ, Slam and Chez up for lynch today fmp.

I'm probably going to start by advocating for a Chez/Onegu lynch. I understand an 11th hour shenanigans, it's good wholesome fun. But then both did like literally nothing over the night-phase? Chez could even be seen as an attractive night-kill if you squint. Anyway I certainly like it more than a busy-body DP or a (admittedly waning) townread MZ lynch. Slam is.....slam. I feel like slam could always be called a coinflip. There could be something there though, I'm going to spend the rest of the night filtering. He's on the list.

It seems likely or even probable that there are 2-3 mafia inside the Vivax lynch, but that math is skewed a bit if MZ is also town. Then they could be anywhere and have literally anything in mind. If MZ is town even the town leaders on HIS lynch could be mafia. I..........don't want to live in this world. But circumstances force me to consider it. I'll leave it for another day - or when someone asks I guess.

The important thing to remember going forward is that this is NOT over. We will NOT give up. We will NOT surrender our town to the red menace. We will NOT simply roll over and let this scourge cow us into complacency.

THIS

IS

LIQUIDIA

On May 26 2023 12:23 VisceraEyes wrote:

I.....I don't believe this occurred. I think you very accurately through your own experimentation are MIMICKING AI THAT IS MIMICKING US to give us your read. Is this the case? Or did you really just let ChatGPT pretendRNG and then relay that to us?

On May 26 2023 16:47 Chezinu wrote:


I have not, but there is one who always watches and always sees whom may guide our paths even knowing the algos within the black box of the neural network. For some know the sovereignty in casting lots.

Your perspective have persuaded me. Notice the signature of the letter to know where I stand. I believe you stand with me.

On May 26 2023 16:46 DarthPunk wrote:


what do you suspect to be true?

On May 26 2023 17:23 Chezinu wrote:

I like to consider myself an investigator.

On May 26 2023 17:45 TankTopTiger wrote:
And that's what you think VE thinks?

Why would VE and you (who were both tied to the train that saved MZ) want MZ to be mafia? Wouldn't that guarantee you guys are in more trouble than you currently are? The progress that would be made would be against you.

Am I missing something? Eli5 please.

On May 26 2023 19:06 TankTopTiger wrote:
I think different people think about survival differently. I agree with your view, but surely if town is looking at lynching you next, as town, you're worried how far town is putting themselves further behind by focusing on you?

VE I'm leaning red. You I'm leaning green.

But I can never be sure with you. In werewolf I think I've got a chance of catching you out when I can see your face, you slow down a bit when you're lying. But in forum mafia you seem like you've got a system for doing things that you could perform as either alignment. You get time to think things through and straighten everything out. You talk a pretty big game about how good you and others are at this, so I don't really have faith in myself to discern your alignment.

On May 26 2023 19:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mebaby, at the time when you wrote this post:

.. why did you think Lightningstrike is town?

On May 26 2023 20:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yes Koshi must be MORE right on something at least. I can't think other options than DP/VE/mebaby.

On May 26 2023 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

For TTT. This is exactly why marvellosity is town and how you can't see that from D1 is a bit beyond me. He's keeping town on track ALL times during D1, disagreeing/questioning the things he is not comfortable with and pointing out good points. This is what makes exceptional town player, not some big posts with "insight".

Just look at Koshi and DP N1. That's not exceptional, hell that's not even good. They both are good town players, but the difference of keeping your head straight and looking for what's important in almost any situation makes the difference between good and exceptional. There is no way mafia marvellosity could do this, i mean like if everyone had their head straight as him, mafia would never ever win any games, you have to "make mistakes" in your thought process as mafia because you need your team to survive. It's very rare cases when you even could actually do that throughout the whole game, and marv's town play is so good it's basically impossible to imitate that as mafia.

So there is that, i suggest you rethink your read on him if you are town, or mafia.

On May 26 2023 23:08 marvellosity wrote:

Don’t we have parity cop? There is no info N1

On May 26 2023 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How are you on DP's responses this phase marv and Slam?

On May 26 2023 23:29 marvellosity wrote:

Oddly I am out walking and I have just been thinking about exactly that. I would like to go back and reread at a better time for me though.

First thought was that he generally held up quite well and stuck around for several pages with just me, you, him… can’t be that easy as mafia. Having said that DP is good enough to pull this off.
I’m assuming the meta on TTT is fair enough but is almost NAI regardless of combinations of alignments.

Something that stuck in my mind was how difficult it was to talk about VE and how quickly the conversation turned to something else.

If I think about it another way - would I be more or less surprised if DP was suddenly flipped mafia right now than I was 24h ago? The dial on that hasn’t moved that much.

What do you think?

On May 26 2023 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gimme a sec marv, gonna buy some beer real quick

On May 27 2023 01:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
I want to vote off the scummiest player on the Vivax lynch (that's not me). Currently Chezinu is in the lead, but that's only because I think fingering 1gu right now would smack of OMGUS.

##Vote: Chezinu

But 1gu sus too.

On May 27 2023 01:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
My reasoning on why the Vivax lynch - from my perspective the only reason mafia would prefer one lynch vs another is if they had a blue read on one vs another. It's entirely possible that mafia joined the Vivax wagon because they had a blue read on him, and Chezinu is a NOTORIOUS blue sniper.

On May 27 2023 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because he thinks youre mafia, did your brain die again?

On May 27 2023 11:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam some good spanish songs:
+ Show Spoiler +

You're welcome Slam.

On May 27 2023 12:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:

did you listen to the epic songs?

On May 27 2023 13:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So you're voting for LS?
It's not a bad vote i just think VE / Onegu is better vote.

On May 27 2023 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:


Ok

I don’t put too much weight into nk analysis anyway generally too much wifom.

What I do put weight into is using nk analysis to push weird mislynches.

Just as an aside my girlfriend is so fucking mad about how much I have been using my phone these past days.

😂😂

On May 27 2023 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I know, right?

On May 27 2023 13:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:

If you know anything about music it's Am Em used as it's best to brilliance.

On May 27 2023 13:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I hate U2 dont talk about U2 pls thx.

On May 27 2023 14:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what do i dislike?

On May 28 2023 06:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe it's when I'm active but he always seems to be like, on the other page posting. IDK I'll look again, but it's phoneposting from work so WEEEEEEEEEEEEE

On May 28 2023 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam why are you still voting for LS?

On May 28 2023 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam who do you think are the rest of mafia come VE flip red?

On May 28 2023 08:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why does it have to be one of marv or DP?

On May 28 2023 08:36 Chezinu wrote:

Troll checking is fun!

On May 28 2023 08:37 Chezinu wrote:

I tested to see if VE would save self and LS. VE votes Onegu instead.

On May 28 2023 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Go where exactly? Why can't the remaining mafia be exactly LS and Onegu?

On May 28 2023 08:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am jsut thinking because of this post:

you grouped marv and DP together and said one of them, so i thought you think one of them.

On May 28 2023 08:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya figures. Whatever I tried, maybe y'all can figure out out from here. I flip green so look at weird switches onto VE around now. DP so town it hurts, so anyone else I guess. Chez for sure. Meh.

Deflating,I thought I was doing really well 😞