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On December 07 2020 22:45 DoYouHas wrote: Because that is exactly where it is from! Oh good, I was pretty sure that is was but could not remember the reference. I spent a fair bit of my high school computer classes watching Strong Bad Emails. | ||
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On December 09 2020 01:34 Onegu wrote: I was born in 85 and I have no idea what that is... Well, being born in the 80s doesn't guarantee that you are cultured it seems. @Slam, yep 87. I was in a computer program and was working with Flash so it was arguably relevant to my work. | ||
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On December 12 2020 09:50 Alakaslam wrote: Lol this is perfect That or my role would be guinea pig, if the player next to me on player list dies I do too due to enlarged spleen Stuff in this vein, as well as the bunny role from recent game. This is what I hope for. | ||
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Slam and his hopes for this game | ||
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The only issues happening in America are the result of our own choices and stupidity and the world already has to deal with us enough. | ||
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Holidays affect everyone I emotionaly gave up on this game, unsure what I care to do. Edit2: /confirm | ||
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Edit: Like many people, I have been experiencing Human problems. One of them is the fact that we constantly find new ways of dividing people up and giving them arbitrary labels as a way of pretending that there are fundamental differencs between us. | ||
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I edited my last post, before I saw that. Saying you will not compromise is perpetuating the same sort of us vs them mentality that your video is making fun of. | ||
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On January 08 2021 03:57 Alakaslam wrote: Then he got pissy and started to act Thanks! | ||
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On January 08 2021 05:24 yamato77 wrote: Well this is exciting Assuming its real... I may have to update my body count prediction. I guess it wouldn't be a prediction then though huh? Locked in then I suppose. | ||
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On January 08 2021 06:06 Alakaslam wrote: Well it is N0. N0 is rarely the most active time... what is there for most folks to talk about? Other than WIFOM? Treat it like a long D1 but with possible flips midday. | ||
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On January 08 2021 06:37 Holyflare wrote: Not saying who I rolled lol Yea don't, Hapa said he put in anti claim stuff. | ||
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So, I will drop a little tribute to a guy who was here, but now is not. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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##Replace Host My curiosity is peaked, peeked? pecked... pickled | ||
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I thin Yam is probably town for being to the point. Vivax might have been role fishing with his opener. I want to see where Dandel's stuff goes. Oh and townfeels for Sho. and bedtime for myself | ||
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I'm not taking this game seriously and just shooting for fun, so I will say Dandel's things reminds me of the mason group that happened back in the bastard host game a while back. He sent a PM claiming I have a new role as myself and some weird shit along with it. That's about all I care to say about it without knowing more. | ||
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On January 08 2021 23:14 WaveofShadow wrote: Listen, for those people speculating and not voting, grow a pair and have some fun. IIRC greymist helped Hapa out with some role stuff and I trust the two of them that a role doesn't exist that completely remakes the game in Dandels image in its entirety. Hell, if it does work exactly the way he says I'm even more interested to see exactly how its pulled off without destroying everything Hapa presumably worked on for a month. This. I so agree with this Especially the last line, lol. | ||
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On January 09 2021 03:09 ghostofconversion wrote: i have not read the last x number of pages but i am going to share with everyone why waveofshadow should die waveofshadow is a despicable human being that convinced me to play a game called hollow knight. now what is hollow knight? it is not important to the point i will be making, but let us say that it has brought me great anguish both mentally and emotionally going through the motions of jumping, slashing, and dying over 1000 times. now you may ask yourself, would a town player really drag someone through the dregs of a miserable game such as this? the answer is no i thought wave was a friendly human being as evidenced by the times i lovingly followed him in among us and had a blast in jackbox together, but he is unlike himself in this mafia game. he is most definitely branded by conversion's MAFIA stamp, and whether you wish to follow me or not i will enact swift justice to wave good bye, sir. i wipe a lonely tear from my right eye as i invoke the words ##NUKE: WAVEOFSHADOW As someone playing Hollow Knight currently (as in I play an hour or two every other day so I don't stress too much over it) I find this a downright traitorous post. It's not Waves fault you could not "Git guuud!" (Phone posting, so please imagine I posted a meme of Hornet and her sound file that sounds like she says this) | ||
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Dandle is 3rd party. His ability seems a little OP, but it seems like he just has a wincon to get happa lynched which would convenienly remove his slot by both lynch and wincon. So fairly anti-town if that's correct. My assumption right now is that if we done lynch Hapa things will return to normal, hopefully with night phase. In other words, not something I want to focus on for the day. Vivax poses a bit of a conundrum though claiming he rolled me and was/is 3rd party. I would normally say there is no way we have 2 3P teams or w/e, but this is heavily theamed so maybe. His play does remind me of the game where he and Rayn were mafia though. Conversion has made multiple "nuke" posts with wonky reasoning as to why he targets whoever he is. It's possible he is just RPing, but I kinda suspect he is just using that as a cover to not really enguage. So if I had to pick right now I would lynch between Vivax/Conversion. However I have only read through of 31 (or most of it) and will make an effort to finish reading tonight. I'm super tired though so I may pass out early to make sure I am up for EoD. | ||
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Sho said something about Daniel being like Acro in the aparature game (or that's what I think he was talking about). I disagree that it is like that at all, his play reminds me more of Grak in the game where Vivax/Rayn were scum. Acro had heavily pushed that his role was pro town and used it in order to prove that. Dandel seems like is is ultra focused on his role, but doesn't seem to care how he is viewed (besides trying to gather votes). Again, hes reminding me more like Grak running for mayor, and was 3p. | ||
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On January 09 2021 08:38 Dandel Ion wrote: Holyflare is now wearing a samurai robe and is wielding a katana. LMAO! Never mind I support Dandel fully now. | ||
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##Faster: Conversion Don't fully understand how this works, and it doesn't resolve till Night so probably nothing will happen. | ||
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On January 09 2021 10:13 Alakaslam wrote: Still. What this is causing just looks like scum. You have to correlate roles to alignment! Are you gonna make scum a parity cop? I guess you could... Are you gonna make a townie godfather? Every townie that isn’t also a miller is a godfather! What makes you think this game has roles like that? | ||
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On January 09 2021 21:42 Holyflare wrote: People that don't want to kill hapa rolled scum in Dandel's regime. Vote hapa and Jat is free win. Oh interesting, so you want Dandel's plan to succeed. | ||
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On January 10 2021 00:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Because it's better to have my vote on that than nothing at the start of the day. I honestly wouldn't have even minded rerolling scum but Dandel gave me you Why is putting your vote somewhere at the start important? | ||
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On January 10 2021 01:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Haha what the hell there are 3 people voting Dandel right now? I mean I guess I'll join in to survive but so long as people understand it's a no lynch Did I miss something? Are you being attacked? Blink twice if you need help. | ||
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On January 10 2021 02:53 Vivax wrote: Imagine paying people to play then you just complain about the game. Only scum does that. Second time I've seen this mentioned, this was actually a thing? Paying people to play? Sleep is oddly elusive. | ||
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On January 10 2021 03:00 Dandel Ion wrote: The libs have been owned. The benefits of this are not yet apparant... Gold. More people should use their Dandel roles, this might be the best part of the game. | ||
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On January 10 2021 12:17 Alakaslam wrote: Like which? For dandels, it’s obvious so I was making a point in reply to Yamato (I think?) saying something about not being able to discern alignments from roles; this was my way of trying to express why I disbelieve it. Just, from everything I have seen this game has very custom roles hand created for this game. You brush off a point that the OP says roles don't define alignment by refferancing normal roles designed for certain alignments. So what does it matter that those roles you listed can't be balanced if they are not in the game? Thus, why are you assuming they are? Though I suppose this also means my assessment that Dandel is 3P is null as he could be trying to achieve a win con of his as any alignment. I still would rather sort it out when his abilites are not active to avoid that. | ||
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On January 10 2021 12:38 Holyflare wrote: Not really, you shouldn't care about voting for a 3P who says his wincon involves getting removed from the game by arbitrary mechanics. Very unlikely mafia makes that claim. You can put it to the test by fulfilling his criteria each day (for instance making him the second biggest wagon and him voting the counter wagon should give him +3 and thus he will be removed from the game next cycle eod if we do it twice). Wouldn't that test require quite an effort to coordinate correctly? Having said that I thought Vivax's reaction to being "Nuked" felt genuine and I'm less inclined to lynch him. I am not a fan of self-destruction. | ||
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On January 10 2021 12:54 Holyflare wrote: Why is there an incongruous thought process if he's town??? Either he's town and miraculously stopped wanting to have fun for (?) reasons. Or he's mafia and got put in a compromising position. I enguaged Dandel's thing too and am now not wanting to pursue it to completion. So does that also make me mafia? I don't think wanting to see what something will do but changing your mind when you get a glimpse of what it is, is alignment indicative. I doubt any of the Dandel "mafia" would want to claim when everyone seems to be jumping on Wave for doing just that. | ||
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On January 10 2021 13:21 Alakaslam wrote: Which, is why I am not pushing it anymore. Was trying to keep up RP but holy shit if it wasn’t actually super effective... So, who is mafia then? What DO you think of Dandel? | ||
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On January 10 2021 14:15 Alakaslam wrote: And this has been denied. But led to one of the most starkly sexual and sterile posts I’ve ever made. I guess it's not relevant to the game itself, I just thought it was a weird thing to have happen. Actually a bit weirder if it's not true, why did Vivax think/imply it was? I am not gunna try and look for where I first saw this said but I didn't think it was Vivax... So unless I'm mistaken that's 2 people who brought it up. Ugh I might have to though if the other person also pushed a mafia read based on it | ||
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On January 10 2021 19:25 justanothertownie wrote: Wave is not mafia for having rolled mafia in dandels game. Why is he mafia then? That is the main thing I got that people were pushing him for. | ||
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Lol, I was actually gunna quote that and say that sounds like a decent description of me >.< Salt in the wound that Hapa made my role 3P after saying I was hoping to roll 3P last game. Sadly this has yet to happen. | ||
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I don't trust HF to be honest. I have the sense he is playing his own game, and I question why he is wanting to lynch Hapa and push Dandel's agenda. He has made some good points, but that means little for his alignment. I am more interested in lynching Conversion though. Mostly I just don't see him doing anything, but calling people mafia with weird or no reason and being upset. Like the majority of his posts feel like RP or are fairly meaningless (like the read based on hollow knight). The RP is hurting the game, I am having a hard time telling who is just posting and who is RPing. Like Sho is throwing me through a loop with his posts kus I think he is RPing but he is already a low volume poster that this makes it impossible to get anything from most of his posts. A bunch of people I feel I have no read on due to RP stuff. I still think Yam is town, Jat is cutting through bullshit so feels town. Neither is really saying a lot though, and that makes it hard to know what the thinking behind some of their reads are (though atm it's possible I skimmed it missed stuff). | ||
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On January 10 2021 19:45 justanothertownie wrote: I also don't get why Vivax is voting himself. Granted he is being nuked so he could do anything but that is directly against his claimed wincon. I don't think it is scummy, just weird. He said he was giving up on the game due to the nuke. So assume it's an acceptance vote. Though with one nuke having been a dud... Did his "not-sober" post tell you anything? | ||
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I have a bad reason to think Wave is town here, and maybe a slightly better one in a bit. This is the end of my thoughts right now and I am finally caught up fully besides anything my tired ass might have forgotten or missed. | ||
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Can you explain it to me like I am an overgrown man-boy who's body is determined to not let sleep for more than 4 hours at a time? | ||
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##Vote: Holyflare Just covering my bases. | ||
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Fair enough I suppose re Wave, a touch OMGUS though, and not something that convinces me since I am not very confident about either of being town. There may be hints at the bad reason, my slightly better reason is that his wagon feels too easy. | ||
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On January 10 2021 20:26 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, so you are more interested in lynching conversion but now you vote HF. I am not following. Not hard to figure out actually, I have faith in you big boy. | ||
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On January 10 2021 20:40 justanothertownie wrote: I also object to the claim that this Wave wagon is easy. He has literally 3 votes and several more people were in the thread refusing to vote him instead wasting their vote somewhere irrelevant. I did say, maybe, and in a bit. As far as I recall I am the only person to actively challenge this read as well. Not sure who you are reffering to who "refused to vote him" Conversion is the read I prefer to focus on. Do you have a read on him since you didn't like mine? I should prob try and get a little more sleep soon though so I am fresh for EoD. I dislike how fractured voting is, but at least we are on plurality lynch. | ||
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You seem to assume Conversion knew he was launching a fake Nuke at Yam, which is possible, but rereading that part of the game it seems like he was reacting more emotionally. I have a hard time going down the thought line that that was all an act to setup a believable fake Nuke. Otherwise I see what you are getting at, | ||
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I can consolidate on a null read. Did people figure out Dandel is only showing in thread votes and it's not the real vote count? That was why my HF vote was not my focus kus it wasn't real | ||
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Your role actions were all fluff right? Or is my "shot" on Conversion actually gunna do something? | ||
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I think HF's reaction to me "voting" him earlier could make him town. I'd have expected scum!Flare to push me hard for that | ||
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I mentioned something about masons in a post to hint that I had been put in a QT. Looked like I missed stuff that was posted there as well. | ||
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Seems to simultaneously think dandel's thing has to reach some kind of completion but also that people that rolled mafia in dandel's thing won't want to claim because they'll get called scummy. Either he believes Dandel's new game can happen or he doesn't, there's a missing piece of logic here where it looks like Tictock jumps through hoops to assume too many things. This entire paragraph is bullshit. Dandel's thing absolutely had to conclude one way or another literally because Hapa said it would stop N1, I was saying I didn't want to lynch Hapa because it seemed like a wincon for Dandel. I don't see how any of that relates to the fact that people literally called Wave scum for saying Dandel sent him a scum role PM. I pretty clearly stated that I wanted to see where Dandel's thing went N0, but seeing were it went D1 decided not to play along anymore since I didnt want to waste a cycle giving Dandel his wincon. This feels like HF setting up fake dichotomies, claiming "he has to be one or the other" when that is simply not true. This is similar to saying "You either believe in my God or you believe in nothing, I don't see any other answer as valid" | ||
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On January 11 2021 00:37 Holyflare wrote: 1) Why is it up to them if you are the diligent townie that doesn't think Dandel's game is real AND you think the people in the QT are suspicious? Pointless. 2) I didn't say you had to vote hapa to believe what you said. I said that you continued to vote no lynch instead of hapa, or anyone else for that matter because ????? You are being extremely obtuse and anti-town regardless of if you are or not. Just because you put up some facade of bravado and act like everything is supposed to be "oh whoopie these guys are so bad with their lack of reasons to vote me look at me being so good!" It's pathetic. You want to have fun but you're doing it at the expense of people in the game that want to play mafia. Either out your QT members and be pro town, whittle down all your chainsaw defenders and find mafia or give reasons for people to join this amazing wagon on Obi. Or just continue doing what you're doing and get eliminated. This post is the same shit. | ||
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If you think that the Dandel game could become real then you outed yourself as mafia and that you have a QT with new mafia members. Not only is that extremely anti-town but it's pretty much anti-game and if it did become fulfilled is almost modkillable. Same shit here, Why is it not valid for it to be possibke for Dandel's stuff to be real but not want it to be? Didn't you(HF) also post that the Dandel mafia not outing themselves makes them scum? But here you say doing that is anti-town? Like wtf is your logic HF? | ||
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On January 10 2021 12:42 Holyflare wrote: People who are in a QT with wave should own up to it or forever be branded mafia. | ||
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On January 11 2021 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Gotta do lunch for kids and stuff before putting youngest for nap. I will post my reasoning for obi and then you guys can do what you will; I'm going to nap myself and won't be around for lynch I would really have liked tictocks input specifically on obi but without that I'll still post what I can. I see why you feel his stuff in the QT was weird but I'm not sure it makes him mafia. I need to reread the QT though | ||
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On January 11 2021 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote: SO y'all can take this with a few caveats. Some of this is not very strong reasoning, some of it I want to be true more than actually is. I will fully admit here to not being good at town. I'm good at looking very townie when I want to---this particular game I didn't feel like it for reasons stated earlier. What I'm not great at is scumhunting so again, y'all can take with a grain of salt. Me Obi and unnamed thir dperson (for now) talking bak and forth a little. I warned them in advance I was going to scumclaim for the reasons I stated here---that I was increasingly disbelieving this was real especially due to my vanilla status. My scummates did not claim their roles or abilities to very much degree as I did. At one point Obi (and I'll paraphrase here) said something along the lines of 'I hope this isn't real because if we're scum this game is going to suck,' which he admitted after he had edited. the word 'we're' used to be 'wave is.' Basically he singled me out for some reason as it sucking going forward if I were really scum (n0) even though I scumclaimed, then fixing it because he realized it would suck equally as we're all in the same boat---but that edit reeks of some other information or way of thinking. The fact that he doesn't automatically think we're all in the same boat as being town n0 then 'turning into scum' with Dandel's D1 addition feels like s lip. I will fully admit a great deal of the time scumslipping really isn't, but I'd look more at that weird mentality difference than what he said specifically. There's other stuff. The softball questions that amount to nothing throughout the early game, refusing to take a stance or commit to much of anything., I will also admit part of me wants to be right because of something regarding Among Us---which HF can maybe vouch for if he was around? I think Conversion can. Yams can. It's very meta and I don't want to out my reasoning on this last one entirely because it ruins a read i have on him in that game so you can probably gnore this part lol Just to add my interpretation, though Waves description of what happened is accurate. I read Obis statement more like he thought Wave sucked as mafia and didn't want to play as scum with him, or that he was convinced Wave was going to be lynched so if our "team" turned real we would be a man down. He said as much in another post than what Wave was discussing here. From the rest of his messages though I see Obi wasn't sure if Dandel's stuff was or was not going to be perminant so that may have been part of it. Idk, I'm going to make a separate post of my thoughts about Dandel essentialy makng the three of us masons for a day. One more interesting thing though from that QT though, I dropped the idea that I had a way to save Wave from the lynch. Dandel's role for me did say it had something like that, not that I was ever going to use it, but wanted to see what Wave would say. He told me I shouldn't do it. Take that as you will. | ||
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By this I mean his only legitimate sounding posts, where he was pushing Dandel were later claimed to be RP and then his vote is somehow stuck on essentially no lynch because he fucked up? This sounds really suspect to me as it could easily be an excuse to not vote (what is supposed to be towns really power) and hand Wave away a fair chuck of his posts. | ||
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On January 11 2021 02:53 justanothertownie wrote: Today is very much real. You just have to ignore dandels shennanigans. What is so complicated about this? I too do not know why this was so hard, but you also thought my in thread vote on HF was somehow real so he got you too. | ||
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On January 11 2021 02:57 WaveofShadow wrote: That's not obvious to me at all, especially since he's been spouting that Humm, that is contradictory to what he was saying in QT. Kus in there is seemed worried it was permanent. | ||
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On January 11 2021 04:02 Alakaslam wrote: Good points, thanks for clarifying. My point is that I believe you can’t completely separate the uses of a role from it’s alignment. So, to illustrate why I believe this, I used normal game roles because I don’t know what roles are in this particular game. But Dandel Is not helping town Could easily be helping scum I want him lynched. That line of reasoning. I whole heatedly agree with the bolded. This is exactly why I chose to help enable Dandel's role N0, because how he used it would be more telling than what it was. This is also why I wasn't mad at myself for pushing a mafia!Rayn into mayor last game. I should have caught it but I think the way he immediately changed to wanting to lynch who the thread wanted from who he wanted when he suddenly was going to be elected was actually a big scum tell. | ||
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On the one hand he removed himself from the game and caused a fair bit of confusion. Both of which are fairly anti-town... Actually if he is town is it that bad to remove self as a target for a day? As a scum ability it actually would be pretty OP to force a mislynch. The other hand is that it was ultimately all fluff and the game is now back to as normal as this game will be. So in that sense his ability was a ton of flavor but pretty weak. The flavor was too notch though, besides the continued joke relating my name to TikToc. I was clearly here first and no silly video app should define me. I have also been using Tictock as a username since like 2010 so :p | ||
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On January 11 2021 04:36 ShoCkeyy wrote: ##vote Dandel Ion On January 11 2021 04:44 ShoCkeyy wrote: I care? And only other person I’m lynching today is conversion. I’ve already stated it like three-four times, are you reading? Uhh... I am pretty sure I was the only person to vote for conversion yesterday, this is laughable hypocritical-ness right here or just straight mafia. Probably mafia. | ||
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Thought he said "only person I'm lynching today is conversion" right after voting Dandel. Lol | ||
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Once per game, you may channel your Discord moderator powers and PM the host the names of three surviving players. At the end of the phase, any surviving players you have chosen will be placed into a "Discord Sleeper Cell" Quicktopic. This sleeper cell will have access to 1-shot KP, which can be used during any night phase if a majority of sleeper cell members agree on a target. You also secretly have access to this Quicktopic, but you cannot post in it or vote for KP. Creating QTs might be a theme this game. Cool way to give town KP though. | ||
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On January 11 2021 05:49 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok so.... We have KP? Dandel threatened to close our mason QT but I don't see why he can do that, theres nothing in the role PM about it Do we keep that KP? If so tictock and Obi we have some work to do Maybe not obi though lol I assumed he ment Hapa would force him to close the QT if we keep posting, but we can leave it up as a reference as long as nobody tries to abuse it. It's basically considered out of game communication at this point. | ||
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On January 11 2021 06:05 WaveofShadow wrote: Well it's exactly as I said. Either its a big coincidence and GB didn't make our QT and Dandel used his role to do something Or GB made it and Dandel obscured info from us Either of my qt mates can confirm I can confirm, your a dumbass. GBs role clearly had not been activated. Our QT would have been called the discord thing if it was GBs ability. Apparently multiple rules can make QTs this game. | ||
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On January 11 2021 06:18 WaveofShadow wrote: Another reason obi could be scum btw I forgot to mention Both tictock and I used the replace host thing on dandel Which presumably meant nothing but he still used his ability on us, but obi never did Adding scummate to spy on us? (probably not cause he himself could see the qt. Bleh) I think if Dandel is in fact scum it would make a lot of sense for him to make a scum QT with 2 town and 1 mafia. If Dandel is town or 3P though it would be either just whatever names he picked it straight RNG. I suppose he might RNG as scum too but more likely he tries to plant a teammate. If that is the case Obi is more likely since he was the only one of us to not want to let the game know he was "scum" I mean, I didn't claim it like Wave but literally the first thing I did was hint at it pretty strongly. | ||
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On January 11 2021 06:31 yamato77 wrote: Imagine lynching GB You didn't exactly do much scum hunting yourself. On January 10 2021 06:54 yamato77 wrote: I like lynching scumclaims So maybe be constructive rather than snarky. | ||
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On January 11 2021 06:45 ShoCkeyy wrote: So we vote dandel or conversion? I'd still like to see Conversion flip. If Dandel doesnt do anything but play host we absolutely lynch him. | ||
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On January 11 2021 07:14 Alakaslam wrote: That’s actually part of what can create the confusion. When you have two parties that are “in opposition”, when skimming it can easily be assumed that only one said what actually both said. That was my mistake; I presumed only you had said it until someone mentioned it about Hapa’s post. I seriously suffered a small mandela effect moment when I read it again. Actually they weren't in opposition. You also clearly didn't read. Mandela effect is strong though, I was there for a bit but that was because I hadn't read the day posts for a bit due to my double shifts. | ||
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This is the other classic joke on my name. I'll let you all imagine what happens when dirty minded people read my name at a glance... Whenever you wanna let people know why I'm mafia, feel free. You have my full permission. | ||
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On January 11 2021 10:05 Eversince wrote: I've skimmed most. The last half a game is like ? For me. Anything relevant with a fast way to get there is great. What was the case on you at? I remember seeing people but can't remember names yet Most of it was that he said he was scum, kus Dandel sent him a role PM. I personally think he is town so wouldn't worry about it, but Jat and HF were the only people who had semi-valid arguments. Oh and since I don't think I clarified, me being in the same QT with Wave was my bad reason for thinking he was town before. I think I have better reasons now. But since I like the bad ones I think he dumbtelled with thinking we had been targeted by GBs ability. Your catch-up posts were mildly amusing, but I find it fun to sometime just say fuck a phase and pick a point to read from that's more recent then go back via filters later. I'm not normal though so use at your own risk. Oh do make sure you check flips though, things get awkward otherwise. | ||
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On January 11 2021 10:52 Eversince wrote: If two universe exist where is the second game thread? See this is the awkward shit I ment. At least read the host posts geez. | ||
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On January 11 2021 11:09 ShoCkeyy wrote: I still dont like Dandel, his ability did nothing for the thread other than get a townie lynched. I get this but even if Dandel is scum and was untargetable we still had 2 scum to find. This is random blame on Dandel for no reason. | ||
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On January 11 2021 11:12 Eversince wrote: What I know Dandel switch did little else but confusing. Dandel switch gave me a new role, while my perfectly fine role kept function as normal. I didn't test his new win cons because.. Reasons I hate moving right now.. So throw that bath water out. I'm to far behind to seriously think about things. I'm just sleep soon.. This is one of the more sensable posts I've read this game. | ||
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On January 11 2021 12:50 Alakaslam wrote: I’m sorry man. It has done the same to me. Blue cancelling glasses can help, but it can be over the top too. Sometimes using a laptop or desktop will help with this. Also, it could be hydration. Once we hit out 30s, our thirst sensing faculty degrades so that could be part of it. I’ve already found myself having to force water drinking a little bit to keep up. Weed, ibprofine and caffeine combo finally did the trick. Thanks for the suggestions though I have been meaning to get new glasses soon too. | ||
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On January 11 2021 16:27 Alakaslam wrote: Hot damn now I want your analysis of that game. I hadn’t even come close to thinking of that. I dunno if I have a good one and that game ended on a sour note so idk how motivated I'd be. I started thinking about how bad is it really to elect a mafia mayor could be if they show face by how they use it a fair while ago. Mayor stuff hasn't come up enough in games I've played for that to be relevant though. My biggest regret that game was not looking into it sooner, but it's telling how fast Rayn had people piling on me when I did dare to suggest it. Tough to play against convincing players like him when many people tend to play like sheep. | ||
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On January 11 2021 16:28 Alakaslam wrote: Yes I’ve been aware and tried to avoid making that joke... It just... presents itself though right? Lol, I think the first time I even noticed was when somebody left a starcraft game by typing "reported you pervert" | ||
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On January 11 2021 16:37 Eversince wrote: I'm to old for this.. Tick tock is the sound my bones make in the morning not some meme video site. GET OFF MY LAWN YOU EGG SUCKING SALAMANDER! (Ok, abusive bladder aside I'm try to get back to sleeping.) (May or may not happening, go away sun) Calm down old lady, no need to have a heart attack. + Show Spoiler + lol, I don't think this at all, just giving some advice. Seriously sometimes just jumping in somewhere is like giving yourself a fresh pair of eyes on the game. Which can be amazingly useful. | ||
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On January 11 2021 16:47 Eversince wrote: Didn't he say he was 'caught'? We can push him back to power? ( not that I would even in a delirious state) I think he's basically just running his own fake game that for a short while was "suppressing" Hapa. Like honestly besides being confusing and making him immune to a lynch for a day, Dandel's role feels completely harmless. | ||
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On January 11 2021 17:49 Eversince wrote: [/b]So He'd just put random in? And bear with me because my brain is wet noodles. That makes Dandel scum? IF he is 3p tried to lynch Hapa out to win, done ????? Since? Hum? What makes him mafia? And after that point we're back to.. Three people were privy to these conversations. Why not all of town? Unless you have an agenda *wink wink* Yea Jat is missing the point. Having a teammate in there let's them influence the town players. It's not like we didn't know Dandel could read out posts Though I am gut reading Dandel as 3P in the vien of what Vivax claimed honestly. He also said he would claim fully after night. | ||
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On January 11 2021 17:50 yamato77 wrote: ticktock why are you not mafia I was, it wasn't that great, so chose to go back to being town. | ||
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On January 11 2021 17:55 Eversince wrote: except 3 people who may or may not have been mafia, became mafia. Every single player in the game without a way to validate their previous role in limbo. Yep. Totes harmless. I mean we still can't till Hapa does. What's the difference? Like really, imagine Dandel as a troll roll who briefly got to pretend to be the host but is now sidelined. Again, read the host posts carefully and it's pretty clear only Hapa shit matters. | ||
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But the actual way his shit works is super fucking clear to me, I don't get why nobody else sees it. | ||
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Getting over the migraine and sleeping all day has given me lots of motivation today, it's terrible. | ||
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On January 11 2021 17:04 yamato77 wrote: To explain my thoughts on JAT in more detail: He seems to be falling in line with thread sentiment a lot without much of his own apparent thought process. His post-sheep work justifying a vote on Wave is unconvincing in particular. His lack of reasoning behind a GB vote is even more frustrating. I see him cite meta reasons at one point, a point of contention that I did not think was a driving factor behind the case on GB. Right now my top 3 scumreads are Shockey, TickTock, and JAT, and the common denominator to me is how they acted around the GB vote. Shockey's voting makes no sense if he's town, and Ticktock/JAT sheeped a bit too willingly for my tastes. I mean I could have left my vote on Conversion and been a solo wagon or vote a null read. I had 10 minutes before EoD, do you think I should have stuck to my guns and left my vote? I felt like I pushed my preffered lynch and got to ruffle HF's feathers. Pretty solid day all said and done. Your not really an offender Yam since you seem to have reasons but I really dislike how much blame is being thrown around for this mislynch. But thank God I missed a page and can procrastinate that wall more. | ||
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I think that a lot of his posts are seemingly rhetorical questions to get people to reiterate what they've already said in their posts. This is from Yam's wall and I think about me. I don't think I've done this but I could see my posting style look like this. I've gotten into arguments due to my style before. I just like to respond to posts as I'm reading and when I am behind significantly it sometimes looks like I am ignoring important things or reiterating because I simply haven't read that stuff yet. I could try to tone it down and post less but it's just how I interact with the game. I am also a big believer in asking questions to encourage thinking. My life philosophy is actually that life is not about finding answers but about asking better questions. Otherwise great wall, 9/10 would scale again. | ||
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Like N0 this was all you did too. | ||
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I am out for the night now I think. I haven't played WoW since Friday which makes me a filthy casual. | ||
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To me the only way Dandel stuff was "happening" is by lyching Hapa, which clearly wasn't going to happen despite you pushing for it. Even then I cant accept anyone really thought Dandel would become the new Host if we did that. It seems so obviuse that that would just be a wincon and remove Dandel from the game. ... Actually in retrospect why did I think that would be a bad thing? I was kinda thinking it would waste a cycle but now I realize it would have removed a much talked about slot that we still have to deal with. Fuck, I was overconfident if my thinking. | ||
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Will stop, I am probably about to go in circles. | ||
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On January 11 2021 23:11 ghostofconversion wrote: toctick: conversion probably mafia i think conversion is mafia lets focus on conversion also toctick: also also toctick: im so town for not pushing my scumread and randomly consolidating on someone i havent mentioned and is a null read I did mention he was a null read before that. And what else would I do, as any alignment coming back 10 min from EoD? Like, fuck me for even bothering to wake up at this point. I'll just sleep through EoD from now on. | ||
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On January 12 2021 05:14 Alakaslam wrote: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565412-_wth-slam-mafia On November 21 2020 06:22 Tictock wrote: So just to me sure I understand your setup slam: Town 5x Vigilante with Infinite shots Mafia 1x Meager Veteran + Show Spoiler + In addition the Day2 lynch is a lie and in fact never happens. I think I get you | ||
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I was ready to be pissy at how people still think I voted HF, but now I'm only preturbed | ||
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On January 12 2021 05:34 WaveofShadow wrote: I mean I did slam But I don't get it exactly Also haha Jat, excluded! I don't think it's relevant, I was just hoping he was reffering to my "Meager Veteran" image, lol | ||
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Mostly just everyone being confused and surprised for whats happening. Some people want to keep using it to exclu.... Oh wait, I'm not supposed to say that bit. | ||
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I suppose I have to find an excuse to not play for awhile first. Gotta do it proper. | ||
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On January 12 2021 05:58 Hapahauli wrote: I can't believe this is the first Votecount all game! (The host must be lazy...) Shockeyy (6) - Holyflare, Justanothertownie Holyflare (4) - Shockeyy, Tictock Tictock (1) - Conversion With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. Currently no one is set to be lynched. until end of Day 2. Whats with the numbers? | ||
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On January 12 2021 05:58 ghostofconversion wrote: dunno, last time u yeeted GB u mentioned him once in ur filter and was like "btw im consolidating on my null read even though Conversion is mafia hehehoho now im just gonna spam my filter and be emo and passive aggressive all game" Ok for real. Your entire push on me is just OMGUS and I guess maybe your trying to push my buttons. Your just adding on the GB thing kus other ppl called that out. In the off chance you are town you might wanna at least consider somebody else kus flipping me might blow up in your face. | ||
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On January 12 2021 06:03 Dandel Ion wrote: nobody sent in any actions so yes, i'm slacking nobody likes my game don't bully me just because i bullied you thats unfair Well apparently my ability on Conversion did nothing so why bother? | ||
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Well Death was inevitable, I just chose to have some fun on my way out ^.^ It's actually not impossible for you to be scum here and pushing an easy lynch on Sho. It's been pretty well established most of the game is fine lynching him. | ||
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On January 12 2021 05:59 Dandel Ion wrote: Right I was fullclaiming I'm Vivax. The thing was my survival ability/second wincon, it lasts longer the more other people vote for it. 0% I just get prot for the night, 25% I can't be lynched next day (this is where we were with 3/12) 50% another night etc. for a max of 3 nights and 2 days. It also required me to write an essay on why hapa sucks and why I'm a much better host than him and if the game hit MYLO/LYLO it would end regardless (this is why i just yolo'd it, couldn't use it to secure a win anyway) During the days I take over I can't vote and you can't vote me, but you can vote for the host. If you lynch the host while I'm in 'host' state, I win the game and leave. I could also choose between majority, instant majority, plurality, mayor lynch, gladiator lynch for each day. Obv chose plurality as it gave me the best chance of success. Then I was allowed to send 1 PM to every player and literally everything else was just me roleplaying. I could have posted freely during d1 but I had more fun 'hosting'. Also I'm complete vanilla now because I blew my only thing so I'm just chillin. that's all. This sounds like an awful lot of protection, especially being unlynchable for 2 days... | ||
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Though I admit, it was my bad for not spamming 100 posts to vote Converison in a 10 min window, or voting someone who claimed something I was fully aware of and knew it didn't make them mafia. ##Vote: Conversion Like seriusly all of conversions posts are jokes, fluff, or a quote with "Mafia" after it. What sort of case do you need me to make, it's done for me. My Case | ||
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On January 12 2021 06:50 WaveofShadow wrote: Also I think my ability did... things last night But also maybe not Its fun cause I have absolutely no clue! Did I possibly call out the effect those things may have? | ||
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On January 12 2021 07:02 WaveofShadow wrote: What these numbers man Also, see how the once aggressive and assertive yamato, nocturnal by nature, has exhausted his energy supply. He unleashes a short grunt into the thread and crawls back into his den to store up calories for the long game ahead. Guess not | ||
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I guess it was an obvious scum slip. I would never copy paste the wrong thing as town. | ||
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Wait no, I'm sure I'd be supportive of myself. Are you sure you read the right filter? Try this I think it will really answer some questions. | ||
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Kus unless I am wrong that there is mafia in there it seems totally pointless. | ||
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On January 12 2021 07:48 Alakaslam wrote: DANDEL ION HAS KP How do you know, and what does it mean if he does? Having KP isn't really an indication of alignment... | ||
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On January 12 2021 07:54 Alakaslam wrote: My role. I’m blue. Compliments to the player it’s based on... backhandedly. I must do things to get mah checks Since I cocked it up all I know is Dandel has KP and he doesn’t seem to want to own up to it so, that has me major sus Yea ok his reaction there was pretty adamant he doesn't. So one of you is lying. | ||
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On January 12 2021 07:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If he got KP from an outside source I think he would have claimed it. So basically he's just...Not town then? This was kinda my line of thought as well. Doesn't make much sense for a scum!Slam to 1v1 like this. So Dandel is most likely mafia then. I suppose he could be 3P still and didn't want us to know his full role. | ||
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On January 12 2021 08:27 yamato77 wrote: I hope you all ignore this mess with the alternate QTs and play the game in this thread. I'm not in there and you all know I'm town Other than me posting a couple SC quotes everyone stopped posting there. Seems even more pointless than Dandels fake game honestly | ||
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On January 12 2021 08:44 Holyflare wrote: Yamato is suspicious as fuck. More info later. How much do you think Slam fears you? | ||
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On January 12 2021 08:54 Holyflare wrote: Slam? I voted him to check how many votes I got Ok, I couldn't tell the timeline and started wondering if Slam was reacting to that. | ||
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HF, you tried putting Ever, Jat, and Yam into a QT and you did some kind of action on Sho? | ||
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On January 13 2021 03:06 Alakaslam wrote: It only talks about access. It is a night based investigative, not active N0. I must do certain things to gain/upgrade my investigations. Ok, "access" could mean an item, role power, or mafia KP imo. Are you aware of what your upgrades would be? (Y/N) I think Dandel is anti-town 3P or mafia if he is hiding KP. The only caviot would be if your role is detecting KP he could have gotten if upgraded or activated. Him doing little to nothing but claim and even dropping the RP today kinda speaks for itself though. I don't trust HF re: Sho | ||
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On January 13 2021 03:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: Your one big mega posts about me and tictock was one big shit post that also shitted up the thread cause its all nonsense conspiracy to frame tictock as mafia. I don't need to write five pages to make my point. Lol, It has never taken a conspiracy to mislynch me before. | ||
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On January 13 2021 04:28 Holyflare wrote: HF's ability to force people into QT's is not helpful for town ShoCkeyy says after literally just watching GB flip town with an ability to force people into QT's. It is mod confirmed to give healing powers. Literally confirmed by hapa in the QT. I came up with a plan to bait Yamato using part of my role that was true, the ability to check how many QTs someone was in. Since I placed JAT, Eversince and Yamato into a QT I knew Yamato would be in at least 2 QTs (I'm in one with him to begin with). If he was in mafia then I would expect him to be in 3 QTs so I baited him and said he was in 3 QTs to see if he'd admit he was with someone else. I have had it confirmed to me that nobody visited me last night, that means my power was not interrupted. I confirmed it, told Yamato that he is in 3 QTs and he said he was in no QTs other than the one we were in together. I took that to mean that Yamato had fallen for the bait but in a way where he was trying to be clever saying he was only in that QT with me as opposed to being in the QT I had also provided him/jat/eversince. Meanwhile, I'm piecing together how everyone in the thread apart from the 3 people I targeted are in a QT together and it turns out it was wave. Very simple. But I guess I called Yamato mafia at one point, such a shame. I didn't counter claim Vivax either, Vivax counter claimed me. Hapa said that mafia had anti-name claiming powers and so I baited them to shoot me and waste that power by claiming a name I wasn't. GL mafia, you have probably around 8-9 random guesses left to get it. Where did the QT between you and Yam come from? I am also surprised you felt the need to bait Yam This does fill in the gaps from what you claimed earlier, so maybe I actually believe your claim this time. It would be really nice if we actually caught 2 scum through actions last night when they didn't get a NK through. I was kinda thinking earlier that HF's thing on Sho felt reactionary to the Slam/Dandel thing and was maybe HF trying to divert a situation away from Dandel. I was even gunna make a big post on it when I get off work showing how he has alternatively pushed people who supported Dandel and supported him himself. Shame, I though it was gunna be a cool case. | ||
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On January 13 2021 04:33 ShoCkeyy wrote: On the heal, no one voted to heal anybody in that QT... Sooo it never happened at least not in ours. Lol, Sho you are so hypocritical it's hilarious Hapa said in the QT that it's a heal at night and it just started today. It is literally mod confirmed | ||
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On January 13 2021 04:36 Holyflare wrote: This guy is a fucking jester and that's why he increases votes on himself. No doubt in my mind. Abort guys. A jester with 2 QTs? And I almost trusted you. No way you believe what you are shitting out. Jester is also already a shit role, but a jester who makes votes on them count more? I think our hosts respect themselves more than that. | ||
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What if mafia is HF/Wave/Yam and they just coordinated to make it seem like they are working to confirm each other as town? | ||
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On January 13 2021 09:28 Tictock wrote: WIFOM alert What if mafia is HF/Wave/Yam and they just coordinated to make it seem like they are working to confirm each other as town? I'm just high and stupid, carry on | ||
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On January 13 2021 04:44 Dandel Ion wrote: I will say if Shockey is scum and RPing as me I will applaud the man. Perfect execution imo. IIRC he had one post where he said "spamming is what I do" or something like that that made me kind of think he might be me. I liked you better when you were RPing | ||
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On January 13 2021 04:48 Holyflare wrote: So you think I could be mafia after coming up with that convuluted as fuck QT bait on yamato? Plz. Don't sell your mafia self short. I'm sure you can do better if you try. | ||
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On January 13 2021 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote: I'd take this deadline tbh This says a lot. Wait why are you voting me? I mean clearly Conversion is hiding in his tunnel on me and nobody cares but why did you join him? | ||
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On January 13 2021 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Can't somebody just vig him? Oh! We can give him protection and I can reverse it If you are assuming he is Jester, which I seriously disagree with, doesn't killing him in anyway give him his wincon? I really don't see Hapa or Grey putting in a Jester like that, even the role HF quoted didn't make it a requirement he play to get killed. I trust our hosts to not make a role like that. I think it is much more likely the extra votes is a side effect of an action he took that he is keeping secret. | ||
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On January 13 2021 05:42 yamato77 wrote: the only other good vote today is TickTock Remember, Wave protected me from mafia KP and I was on them If I were mafia I wouldn't shoot you because you think I'm mafia, itd be because you are not likely to be mislynched and are one of the few players who can effectively rally people together. Not that you will, nor should, take my word for it. I've played enough games to know the writing on the wall when I see it and accept I will probably get flipped in the next couple cycles. I will be a little upset if I get mislynched over the person (people?) who got caught lying today though. | ||
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On January 13 2021 06:28 yamato77 wrote: I see a lot of this in TickTock's filter but I really don't think he comes to a lot of conclusions Like I said I think he wants to appear interested but he stops short of the point of having convincing ideas in his posts. I was asking to figure out how to deal with all the claims. Needed to know more about how their checks work to sort between them and decide if HF is even being serious. Pretty hard to draw conclusions without understanding what's going on. I still can't tell is HF legit got a message from the hosts saying Shokey has access to 2 QTs, and for a while I thought a QT counter ability was absurd and had to be a lie. After thinking about it, and realizing he claimed you two are in an unexplained QT, there is a ton of QTs being made this game so his ability could make sense. Dandel having "access" to KP and saying he doesn't along with not really playing at all since N0 seems the safer bet to me here. | ||
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On January 13 2021 06:35 WaveofShadow wrote: I guess 9-2-1-1 not 9 2 2 This really is not productive with only one townie flipped. | ||
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On January 13 2021 06:38 yamato77 wrote: Vivax' filter is exactly why I don't like basically pure survivor roles, he's not trying and there's so little incentive to lynch him. Not a good dynamic for town to have to deal with, especially in a heavily themed game Almost forgot he was in the game tbh | ||
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On January 13 2021 06:41 yamato77 wrote: Stay the course on Shockey, lynch TickTock tomorrow, hopefully I am dead at some point so I don't have to figure this game out later. I feel the same right now, lol. | ||
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[QUOTE]On January 13 2021 06:52 Dandel Ion wrote: [QUOTE]On January 13 2021 06:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The guy claimed to not have KP but has KP. Is that not weird somehow?[/QUOTE] It is weird. actually maybe it's literally just because I could make hapa lynchable and that somehow counts as KP. if that's it I would be quite upset, dunno anything else that would do it though. I really don't think scum would frame me personally, as I was already being kind of obvious about not being town in n1 so I don't see how I would have looked like a good check (and would already return non-town) but hey, slam apparantly did check me so what do I know...[/QUOTE] Oh fuck I bet it does. That’s actually in line with my role... he’s a bit paranoid.[/QUOTE Wouldn't that contradict what you told me before though? He wouldn't have "access" to that if he already missed the chance. | ||
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On January 13 2021 07:57 Alakaslam wrote: Oh fuck I bet it does. That’s actually in line with my role... he’s a bit paranoid. Wouldn't that contradict what you told me before though? He wouldn't have "access" to that if he already missed the chance. | ||
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On January 13 2021 09:10 ShoCkeyy wrote: heh, idk, I work two full times + have a new born so I may also be delusional. Fair, actually extremely fair. Still hilarious though. | ||
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On January 13 2021 09:37 Holyflare wrote: I feel like a mafia power does not entail giving them 2 extra votes but receiving 3x as many from everyone that votes them. That is jester 101. Why not what I suggested? It's a side effect to him using an ability. In the last Greymist game someone had a role that turned them into a rabbit and could only post "poop" "eats carrot" etc for a cycle or two as part of theit role evolving. I sincerely don't believe Happa would put in a role that only exists to try and get killed. I don't think you honestly believe that either. | ||
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On January 13 2021 10:19 Holyflare wrote: It didn't have the wincon in the one I linked because it was just the role but jesters only win by being voted, which is why the power makes total sense as a jester and 0% sense as mafia. What kind of mafia power outs that you're the one controlling votes when literally anyone votes you? Dumb af. I feel like I've seen something like that, but am unable to dig for it right this moment. I'm not saying it makes him mafia anyways you just ignore what you don't wanna hear since I just read my own post that had an alternative suggestion. I will literally take a pic of me eating a hat if Shokey is a Jester in postgame. He is not a jester. | ||
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On January 13 2021 10:18 Holyflare wrote: No, jesters need to be solely voted off to win. That you fucking responded to. | ||
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I know he is voting Dandel, and I know he is most likely town due to the QT almost all of us got I still would be down to Yolo lynch HF | ||
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Sho asked if the QT even matters since mafia are undoubtedly in it I posted this Honestly at best I think we can use this to force mafia not to target one person, I assume there is no way to RB a QT... We don't know what powers mafia have though I don't think we should be posting in there so wanted to post my thing both places and needed that setup. We should still use it, just only votes in there. | ||
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On January 13 2021 12:42 Holyflare wrote: I think you need some time away from the thread if you're confused by my very basic accusations towards shockey. I'm not confused, your just wrong | ||
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On January 13 2021 19:41 Dandel Ion wrote: So what reasons do you have for not lynching shockey? What reasons do you have for lynching me? | ||
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On January 13 2021 19:50 Dandel Ion wrote: What does it say? Don't be shy now. Say what you mean. As for the rest, it's posts like this. You somehow have 9 pages of filter and every single post is inherently forgettable. I mean do you have a read on Shokey or anything? Sure, blame my posts being forgettable for you forgetting I had preformed unresolved actions in your game. | ||
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On January 13 2021 19:54 Dandel Ion wrote: ah it's just slam and HF. unlucky, I believe slam is genuine and HF isn't lynchable. Well not with that attitude | ||
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Seriously why should I believe you actually care about lynching me, you are probably only here now that your wagon is getting traction | ||
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On January 14 2021 02:57 ghostofconversion wrote: why arent we lynching tocktic? or u know, eversince who afked all game and pretended she didnt know what deadlines were On January 14 2021 03:04 ghostofconversion wrote: i opened slam's filter and saw 10 pages and x'd out i also didnt read the last like 30 pages I guess Ever just failed to tunnel the right person before it was ok to stop reading the game. How am I a bigger priority than the guy who has literally been posting all game but has at best provided one sentence as to why he thinks anyone might be mafia? Dandel made some fun flavor but he barely posted till it looked like his wagon might take off. Conversion is randomly bringing up Ever right before deadline and yet admits to being just as out of touch with the game as she is. Though in fairness he has posted more than her, and I'm sure if I ever find his filter I will find a virtual treasure trove of game breaking contributions. | ||
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On January 14 2021 04:59 Dandel Ion wrote: Night 2 Eversince, as WaveofShadow got owned hard! + Show Spoiler + You are WaveOfShadow, a man rapidly approaching midlife crisis. As a proud dad, you decided to make that your personality. As such, you are expressly permitted one dad joke per cycle (optional). If a player groans or boos or otherwise expresses their displeasure about your lameness, be it for dad jokes or otherwise, you may submit proof of this victory over them to the host during the night phase. If the council of dads permits your submission, the player in question will then be part of your family. You win the game if the majority of players left in the game are part of your family, at which point you leave to buy cigarettes and are removed from the game until you return (and I’m sure you will return, any second now…). You also win if you can entangle another player in a back-and-fourth about children for at least 11 posts each within a single phase. Posts about your or their own children count double. Shockeyy as yamaldo77 got lynched. + Show Spoiler + You are Yamato77, and you are really angry. You don’t remember ever not being a rabid mess, and neither does anybody else – and with that I mean myself. You are a writer and you really want people to know that very much. Each day you can swing your pen to edit one of your posts so that there are more pens on that post. You hate roleclaimers, mostly because you hate everyone. Each night, you can submit a player name and a role name. If they match up, the player dies regardless of protection. If they don’t, you certainly don’t re-examine your own play, that’s for losers. You win if you kill three people or they die at the same time as you would successfully kill them. Realized I am well past deadline and... Well I told you HF... But wtf, how many 3P are in this game? This is like 7P | ||
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On January 14 2021 05:03 Hapahauli wrote: Night 2: Final Votecount: Shockeyy (21) - WaveofShadow, Yamato77, ObiWanShinobi, Eversince, Dandel Ion, Justanothertownie, Holyflare Dandel Ion (5) - TicTock, Alakaslam, Shockeyy Tictock (1) - Conversion Shockeyy has been lynched. + Show Spoiler + You are Eversince - you are an active and emotionally involved townie. You are the queen of tunneling, as well as the queen of getting tunneled. Every night, you may pick a number from 1 to 3. The following day phase, your vote will be multiplied by your chosen number, and all votes against you will be multiplied by your chosen number (i.e. if you pick 2, you have 2 votes, and all votes against you count 2x). You win with town. Please PM me any and all night actions. until end of Night 1. I'm a moron but still right about him not being a Jester | ||
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Yam and Conversion are playing either deeply tunneled or with their egos first. HF just says whatever lie he hopes will get him what he wants. Ever is ... Well what-Ever You guys suck. Jat is like the only sensible person in this game who actually tried to get people to vote the guy lying about not having KP, who has also done Jack all game. But sure you all go and lynch me tomorrow like I know you will. I hope you have a blast. | ||
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Yam and Conversion are playing either deeply tunneled or with their egos first. HF just says whatever lie he hopes will get him what he wants. Ever is ... Well what-Ever You guys suck. Jat is like the only sensible person in this game who actually tried to get people to vote the guy lying about not having KP, who has also done Jack all game. But sure you all go and lynch me tomorrow like I know you will. I hope you have a blast. | ||
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On January 14 2021 05:08 yamato77 wrote: I now want to lynch Holyflare and I will only post about it until i die Lol, I could support this. In other news breakfast was an amazingly tasty bagle sandwich which has shown me the beauty of simple things. I will try and take it's message forward and minimize my trash talking. See sandwiches may not be complicated but they don't need to be, you just gotta learn to appreciate then for what they are. Now to drink my coffee and reck some nerds! | ||
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Oh God, I legit almost spit out my coffee. | ||
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On January 14 2021 06:39 ghostofconversion wrote: u r literally the most unfun player i have ever played with in tl mafia and ive played many games with a bunch of raging idiots including myself im nuking you off the face of the planet next day so u can just go afk do something more productive with ur life besides being passive aggressive and having a filter twice my size while simultaneously doing less than me I did try and get you in tunneled once or twice, but I guess I am just too easy a target. I await a sky full of mod notes telling me I'm being fake nuked. I am far less anoying when you actually have reasons to call me mafia btw, look how I reacted to Yam. Didn't we tunnel each other in a game before? I can't quite remember. | ||
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On January 14 2021 06:48 yamato77 wrote: dont protect hf i'm gonna shoot him tonight You could shoot me, would save us all some headache it seems | ||
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On January 14 2021 06:52 ghostofconversion wrote: this assumes you even tried to begin with This implies you know I am town and am doing exactly what I said On December 04 2020 08:28 Tictock wrote: /in Expect variable levels of effort as I am probably going to need a 2nd job to make ends meet soon. On January 09 2021 07:42 Tictock wrote: I am unfortunately going to be very limited on time for the first half of this phase. Will try to catch-up but may not be able to post much. I'm not taking this game seriously and just shooting for fun, so I will say Dandel's things reminds me of the mason group that happened back in the bastard host game a while back. He sent a PM claiming I have a new role as myself and some weird shit along with it. That's about all I care to say about it without knowing more. That last post was where I hinted I was scum in Dandel's game too since everyone missed it. | ||
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On January 14 2021 07:33 Holyflare wrote: Excuse me? Jat is the only person that tried? Are you having a laugh? You tried, but through convoluted and obviously false lines of thought on Shokey. I know I should have done more to push Dandel and I will make up for that tonight, but you actively made it harder to focus on Dandel by constantly inventing shit about Sho. Who was it that randomly claimed Shokey was in 2 QTs? | ||
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On January 14 2021 07:36 Holyflare wrote: I think yamato is probably mafia tbh. Don't care who thinks it's likely or not I'm pretty sure he was trolling by voting shockey. The way he's claiming a shot on me tonight just reads like he's gonna kp me from fear. You think scum!Yam sees mafia KP fail and tries to act like he was shot? Actually ... I guess it is just an assumption that Waves ability both prot'd Yam and reversed your QT thing. If there is a vet or something else that stopped mafia KP that's possible. | ||
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On January 14 2021 08:04 Tictock wrote: Why should I bother trying in this game? Yam and Conversion are playing either deeply tunneled or with their egos first. HF just says whatever lie he hopes will get him what he wants. Ever is ... Well what-Ever You guys suck. Jat is like the only sensible person in this game who actually tried to get people to vote the guy lying about not having KP, who has also done Jack all game. But sure you all go and lynch me tomorrow like I know you will. I hope you have a blast. Sorry for double post, I took a shower and this was still up so I thought I forgot to push it | ||
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On January 14 2021 08:27 Holyflare wrote: One of eversince or yamato is mafia and that much I can guarantee you. Is ever actually talking to you guys in that QT? I also feel it would be relevant to know where that QT came from but that info can wait till Day. | ||
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On January 14 2021 08:52 Tictock wrote: I did try and get you untunneled once or twice, but I guess I am just too easy a target. I await a sky full of mod notes telling me I'm being fake nuked. I am far less anoying when you actually have reasons to call me mafia btw, look how I reacted to Yam. Didn't we tunnel each other in a game before? I can't quite remember. EBWOP, just noticed | ||
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On January 14 2021 08:57 Vivax wrote: So after reading around the OP it doesn't seem unlikely there's two scum teams. I don't know how else scum couldn't kill anyone so far if not for some delayed activation mechanic thingy to balance that out. I have just the request that you don't murder people too quickly so I can catch up with the free win point I missed last lynch thanks to a fucked up sleep rhythm. So your idea for a lack for KP, is more KP? I think OP said N0 was not a valid night for mafia to shoot so there isnt that much KP missing. | ||
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Please man, besides the last few months I barely played here in years. I had to stop after almost breaking down in a game due to combination of RL. I am sorry if you legit feel that way though, I do sometimes get irate with people but I don't mean it personally. You can even see how me and Slam started going at it before the game (which I did take to PMs and continued until I got pissed he threw me under a bus publicly till he redacted it). All of which it water under the bridge in my mind. I will tone down my snarkyness if it is actually making the game worse for people. | ||
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You somehow think that you are some god-town player I don't, lol. I don't know where you got this, I just trust my gut and push what I think. My sig is me fully acknowledging that I can be wrong, sometimes play like shit, do stupid things, and like everyone get too wrapped up in my own thinking and tunnel hard. As for the GB thing, I clearly posted, went to bed and woke up 10 min before deadline. I also did not push you yesterday because with all the claim stuff that was never on the table. I'd rather table a read to focus on relevant stuff than tunnel and waste a vote in a MAJORITY game. You also both call me out on trying to be funny, then say I shutdown you from doing the same kus I am too serious? When have I ever shut you down, I expect to get as good as I (hopefully) give. I am sorry this got personal for you, and I am willing to back off. I will still respond to shit as I please though. | ||
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Mafia know who we Prot there but they won't know who he targets | ||
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Stay tuned! | ||
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On January 11 2021 22:21 Dandel Ion wrote: I don't really think Wave is mafia for that. But that's because contrary to you I think he is a dick. I don't even think it matters if he thought the game was real, he wanted it not to be and was willing to risk modkilling his entire squad for that selfish desire. At least that was my take, didn't read d1 super closely. On January 11 2021 23:04 Dandel Ion wrote: No, my game was never going to continue, I just wanted to give some sort of reason as to why you should vote him. Apart from for the lulz, as this game has a critical lack of lulz players. I didn't mind TT's posts on HF off the top of my head, they made sense and stuff. Otherwise mostly forgettable, but there was a bad one. I'll find it D2 if nobody brings it up until then. On January 11 2021 23:13 Dandel Ion wrote: I didn't want to do that. I actually believe Vivax's claim. It lines up with what I know about my role and works similarly. On January 11 2021 23:44 Dandel Ion wrote: Okay nevermind, it was this one but he corrected himself right after so it wasn't an intentional misrep. Looks like I got nothing after all. Guess I'll have to actually read yamatos post now, ugh. On January 12 2021 06:35 Dandel Ion wrote: ##Vote TicTock finally a convincing case On January 13 2021 19:50 Dandel Ion wrote: What does it say? Don't be shy now. Say what you mean. As for the rest, it's posts like this. You somehow have 9 pages of filter and every single post is inherently forgettable. And that's with me generously considering "I believe Vivax's claim" and "a convincing case" to be reads. And people say my filter is content-less. | ||
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The Epic of Dandel-not-a-Lion But was caught Lie'n! Dandel came in a fresh game of Mafia, and Immedietly thought "I can do better" thus began his Campaign to remake what clearly wasn't broken into his own. Dandel tried valiantly to be funny and witty, but alas it's a hard thing to force and in a moment of haste and panic includes a Picture of a Sad old man to get sympathy. Though off to a rocky start, Dandel decides he mustn't give up and screams to any passerby "Please like me! I have Candy" As the people give him the cold shoulder he turns to offering sexual favors, violence, and even half completed productivity (with promises of follow up once support is given). Slowly a few people took notice, but not enough! How was Dandel supposed to pull through with his dreams if even lies of supporting the actual game were to be ignored? Thankfully Dandel had a trick up his sleeve, everything had actually been for show! He never truely needed the support of these ignorant townsfolk, it was time to enact his master plan. Now that the groundwork was laid Dandel felt free to talk back to those who still doubted him but most importantly to relax and take it easy. "These fools think their game still matters." thought Dandel "Little do they know it never mattered to me at All!" This goes on for longer than one might expect, almost like two pages of filter in a mafia game or something, Dandel's knowledge that his plan was soon to take place made it easy to Joke and laugh like nothing at all was important. Finally the long Night was over and Dandel's work was about to pay off. And pay it did, like no joke Dope ass flavor and a surprising attention to detail, Dandel had clearly put all the energy others were wasting on 'finding mafia' into this kickass Better than Mafia game he had invented. In addition Dandel's game allowed him to transgress beyond all Meta and was no longer truly present in the Mafia game that lesser beings had created. An ability that played into Dandel's true motives better than he hoped, for once you cannot touch a thing it no longer sticks in your mind as strongly. By replacing his physical being with Dope Flavor Dandel was able to slowly win more of the town's folk to his side. Nothing good lasts forever though (actually just nothing lasts) and eventually Dandel's rebellion on the real game was crushed. The Feds came and kicked him to the curb, dismantling most of what he had spent the last day creating. What was Dandel going to do? Most of the town looked down on him, some looked right through him almost like he wasn't even real. Dandel realized he was going to have to turn back to some old tricks. "I'll explain myself tommorow!" "I'm still fun! Don't give up on me!" "I didn't fool you, you fooled yourself!" For the most part these worked, but unsure if it was enough Dandel tried to 'scum hunt' as the town-peons called it. "Wave's a dick!" "This guy I barely acknowledge is cool, maybe, I have more on him." Luckily some FlaringHomo engaged Dandel in some mechanics talk that was easy to shit out, and confirms he knows a bit more than he should about Vivaxinations. Dandel tries to follow up with promises, but is only able to show hollow shells. A scared Donkey wonders through the Town and many people start throwing stones at it, simply for being a Show Donkey. (Sho-key, get it?). Dandel, never wasting a chance to troll, casts his own stones. After everyone's arms are tired Dandel remembered he promised to do shit, and he actually does this time. Soon after the Donkey, a clock Tock's instead of Ticing and Dandel is all over it. Throwing a leftover stone for good measure. So quickly had Dandel forgotten this was the same clock he had said was cool and couldn't find the bad shit he claimed he had seen about it. Everything looked so clean, and all the town was at ease, until a loud Slam was heard! "Dandel has a GUN!" (Gun = KP) "No he doesn't" Shouts Dandel. "Really, I don't! Not at all!" Caught and Ashamed, Dandel felt he had nowhere to turn. His lie was out and people were turning against him. Fortuitously, Dandel did have a place to turn, ScumQT. In there he sat and waited, waited until the time seemed right. After almost a day he was ready to return. Not with Style, not with Grace. These were not Dandel's ways. But with Memes. Oh and better kick that clock a few more times, just for good measure. Well, that's about the end of the story for now. I didn't have the heart to recap the last little bit... Poor Donkey. | ||
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Like I said was surprisingly fun, but took a while. I may well do another one on Conversion or maybe even HF for lols. | ||
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On January 14 2021 12:58 Alakaslam wrote: Oh gee Idunno, maybe the uncc’ed investigative role? Possibly? I still think you should vote Wave. | ||
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I'd like to hear what you do see. For me Obi is in the same category as Vivax. Players I forget are in the game till the post. Besides if Dandel flips scum the probability of one of the Dandel forged Scum being mafia increases by a significant factor. And I am pretty convinced Wave is town for more than just the save and confirmation of his role ability. | ||
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On January 14 2021 15:00 Tictock wrote: I'd like to hear what you do see. For me Obi is in the same category as Vivax. Players I forget are in the game till they post. Besides if Dandel flips scum the probability of one of the Dandel forged Scum being mafia increases by a significant factor. And I am pretty convinced Wave is town for more than just the save and confirmation of his role ability. | ||
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On January 12 2021 07:50 Tictock wrote: How do you know, and what does it mean if he does? Having KP isn't really an indication of alignment... BUTT Then I realized Dandel had not only just "full claimed" but was actively denying he had KP, and when Slam later clarified his return had used "access" to KP, that it becomes pretty clear Dandel was for sure caught with something he is trying to hide. | ||
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I find Ever's post extremely honest in tone and she kinda distrusted Dandel heavily at the start so am inclined to leave her be. | ||
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With the way this game is going idk how much we should take for certain. There is also plenty of people who haven't claimed anything and tomorrow should bring new info. Though it would help if HF at least drip nonsense rather than spew it. | ||
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On January 14 2021 15:48 yamato77 wrote: not much of a read there on obi you also draw no conclusions do you think he's mafia? Yes he is mafia + Show Spoiler + It's definitely possible. I don't recall anything that makes him mafia though. Only reason I've had had to think he is town is WIFOM from being put in a "scum QT" with him. I certainly have had less issues with him than other players, but he is a "from the shadows" style of scum player iirc. Oh crap, you won't stand for this wishy-washy bullshit that is my thinking huh? Oh I know... | ||
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Honestly I am kinda PoEing. The interaction of abilities and lack of NK is pretty conclusive. Yam, Wave and HF are almost certainly town. Jat is playing sensibly while interacting with everyone and is generally thinking similarly to me. Slam is too carefree and trolling to be mafa, plus I don't think he tries to fake claim KP when he did here. Ever I just talked about. That is everyone I have taken off my PoE and generally why. I'm sure I've forgotten something somewhere kus this is off the top of my head | ||
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I am at exactly Dandel, Conversion, Obi. Let's ship that as the first team guess of the game, eh? | ||
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On January 14 2021 16:23 yamato77 wrote: I truly doubt Conversion is mafia Besides him trolling a bit and calling me mafia what makes him town to you? Kus I suspect you mostly just like him calling me mafia | ||
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People seem to listen to you more. Unless you think you have a better idea. | ||
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On January 15 2021 05:23 Eversince wrote: Ugh.. And HF said he had protection so i opted to not JK him.. And now I lost both my spouse and my child. I proceed to cry myself to sleep for over a month. There is no love left in my heart. The world is a bleak rain even on the brightest days. ##activate: motherswrath I sense a father's fury in there as well. Ever is there anything worthwhile sharing from the QT you were in? I will trust my gut and say this basically confirms Ever town in my eyes as it looks like she and Yam were masons. | ||
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On January 15 2021 05:29 ghostofconversion wrote: Fellow citizens, it is Conversion here. It has been a while ride in mafia town. We've had some good times, we've had some bad times. I have had nothing but love for all of you (except one person, who shall not be named). As a respected member of the mafia community, I will do what is right and nuke myself as it was in the polls. I am not sure why you would do so, but I bid you all farewell. I just sincerely hope that you will follow through my words when I say DO NOT TRUST VIVAX'S CLAIM ABOUT HOL-- oh, he's dead. Never mind. I no longer have the strength, will, or charisma to pull together as your nuclear warhead making commander in chief. Maybe in a future game, town will not spout lies such as ObiWanKenobi thinking that my nukes were all fakes or duds, or Tictock, who has been my mortal enemy at every turn. It was a good run, and I have no idea who the fuck mafia is but it seems like town will pull through even with me dead. HAPAHAULI I SUMMON THEE, ##NUKE CONVERSION Wtf!?! On January 15 2021 05:10 ghostofconversion wrote: yeah that was obvious think we just lose now we lost the only 2 town players actually playing the game let's all collective raise our hands in the air and praise Hapahauli and ##concede Why not nuke your scum read you haven't deviated from all game? | ||
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On January 15 2021 05:38 Alakaslam wrote: DANDEL ION CANNOT WIN WITH TOWN. Or nuke the fucking obviuse scum who has to be checked twice for some reason >.< Are we waiting for a gold platter? Scum being served up fresh and hot to town, but everyone's a fashion model who can't eat in public I won't make analogies again, but you get my point I hope... Ok never mind, voting thread just eased my mind there. | ||
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On January 15 2021 05:43 Eversince wrote: I've said this most of the game but meh, good luck, you'd have my vote if I'm not on the pire myself. You can still vote scum then too | ||
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On January 15 2021 05:50 WaveofShadow wrote: The thing about Jat is, I am way more used to him taking a leadership role, similar to his D1 D2 he let HF and yams run amok and the fact that I don't remember his usually strong town presence I think justifiably raises my hackles. For now it's Dandel and/or obi Do you think town! conversion nukes himself out of the game? When he could have nuked me? I don't buy it, Conversion/Dandel/Obi. Let's get em boys! I realize I could just wait to see if his nuke is fake again, but of course it's fake again plz | ||
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On January 15 2021 06:08 Vivax wrote: I can't have town lose today. I still need to fulfill my wincon. I'll duel one of Obi or TT I think. I'm not letting you lynch Dandel. Btw: I feel like if you don't duel Dandel we just lynch you honestly. Like I said though Conversion/Dandel/Obi, take your pick of which scum you wanna mano-a-mano. Victory or Death! | ||
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On January 15 2021 06:08 justanothertownie wrote: Reading the game would suffice for now. (@Eversince) I'm still for the idea she just reads and reacts to this cycle honestly. Trying to pressure yourself to read through and grasp so much is a lot, but I suppose it might be worth something with knowing flips. | ||
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On January 15 2021 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm wondering if it's worth the hail Mary for style points and just gun for obi rather than playing it safe on dandel I worry that scum left me alive knowing I'm bad and wrong as town a lot, but most likely it was higher priority to take out the town leaders first regardless I need to know if anyone visited yamato last night I stongly believe you and Ever are cleared as town by mechanics. Slam is almost definitely town, and Vivax is pretty clearly 3P. There is a huge likelihood Obi is scum, we should prob lynch the red check though. | ||
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On January 15 2021 06:23 WaveofShadow wrote: No it looks like he parity checked me/hf/dandel last night or something of the sort So again Dandel safe lynch but could also just be SK Humm I didn't think about "not winning with town" being an SK. That could explain the extra KP. Though why would SK!Dandel shoot one of them? I guess he would have had to think he was shooting scum... Idk this is WIFOM and it's still confirmed Dandel is anti-town here so kinda pointless. | ||
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On January 15 2021 06:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: A full claim might be in order in that case? Because slam is claiming a different type of check this time around and it's possible mafia just didn't know he could do that. I mean he already checked that people had KP and nobody really cared all that much, or maybe figured that killing active players over a guy nobody was really listening to was a better play. There's a number of things that could have happened tbh. I strongly advise against this. Honestly I could see this being scums plan going into today, and might be why Conversion is "nuking" himself to make people feel like they should claim | ||
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On January 15 2021 06:29 justanothertownie wrote: Which is the reason why I assume mafia knew exactly what slam was doing. Are you implying Dandel was framed... Twice? | ||
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On January 15 2021 06:34 WaveofShadow wrote: Because he lied to them and said he had protection already Which was dumb HF Stop lying as town all the damn time It is dumb to do constantly, you gotta mix in truth if you want to keep people guessing. It has been pretty clear like 70% of his shit was BS It's even more frustrating though because his lies were clearly a distraction and have probably benefited scum in the end. On the other hand I respect wearing nothing but WIFOM armor. | ||
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On January 15 2021 06:46 Eversince wrote: I mean it basically boils we either risk mafia/ eliminate me or ignore the fact I miss votes/ deadlines/ entire fucking cycles and just 'hope' or you guys can solve the way I outlined earlier. Stop being so down on yourself, do what you can Your not even on the table at all today imo | ||
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On January 15 2021 06:52 justanothertownie wrote: I don't get it. He wants to no lynch | ||
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On January 15 2021 07:00 Eversince wrote: And that will go on until I get off this damn forum and back to work, disappear for the next 35 hours, and everyone will want to kill me next cycle, wonderful :/ Well, this is clearly a good use of your energy... | ||
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On January 15 2021 07:01 ghostofconversion wrote: @Tictock would like to get your thoughts on the current situation, since Wave is giving you a pass and I am now undeniably confirmed town I suspect this sentiment has changed since I started catching up. Nuking yourself confirms nothing | ||
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On January 15 2021 07:12 ghostofconversion wrote: this nuke is not fake im legit not lying i will just claim if people dont believe me If your nuke is real like you claim you should have no reason not to | ||
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On January 15 2021 07:29 ghostofconversion wrote: oh true. what was the result of the track? On January 15 2021 07:33 Eversince wrote: He died. I took him flowers and promised I'd do what I could to find out why my baby boy died. This amused me more than it should have. | ||
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On January 15 2021 07:37 ghostofconversion wrote: ok then can someone not eversince explain to me how they put a track on HF and he was killed without a check coming back to ES, mechanically speaking? some sort of hidey role? Watch = See who visited your target Track = See who your target visits | ||
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On January 15 2021 09:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Problem is, if he's telling the truth and we lynch him we may just lose Wait, what? Who? | ||
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On January 15 2021 09:27 ghostofconversion wrote: in this genius' head the scum team is Conversion/Dandel/Obi Conversion, who is going to be removed from the game in less than 24h Well I clearly don't believe that is real because I don't get why you wouldn't just nuke your scum read from the entire game if you are town here. If it's real then you don't need to convince me because it will become clear and I'm not even trying to lynch you... I also explained how I post while reading and why I am not changing. Not sure how you missed that when you claim to have only focused my filter all game. You don't even deserve a fun story based case nobody cares about like I did for Dandel. | ||
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On January 15 2021 10:00 Eversince wrote: Oh I miss this.. But yeah if both you/ me are both town then when work gets going in effort tomorrow, the fact of me being town will be bad because i 1) track record activity 2) very little contribution 3) absolutely no chance to be useful late game as I'm not confirmed, won't be active, and still alive. But that's to late since your nuke alread launched.. Which means we have 1 lynch but I'm dead weight friends.. Throw my as off a cliff or convince me you're town. This is the most embarrassing crap ever. I have to display how freaking useless I've been.. But then I have to point out that EVERYONE ELSE has to do the legwork for me. I mean.. I'd lynch me.. ¡·¡ Good thing only one of us is you then. | ||
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On January 15 2021 10:10 ghostofconversion wrote: whoever you are roleplaying should be insulted. it's like you decided to lose brain cells in order to roleplay and i think its me Lol, you should remember this for postgame honestly ^.^ I appreciate you think I had braincells to lose. Sadly.. I don't RP though so RIP my dignity ... May you and my self-respect meet again in the afterlife. Seriously what's wrong with my thinking here? You'd rather not play than take a chance to prove you've been right all game? I don't buy it | ||
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On January 15 2021 10:11 ghostofconversion wrote: why would mafia!conversion who is not in the slightest in any threat of being lynched draw all this attention to himself with a fake nuke? Nuking yourself does the opposite, it's so obvious. "Don't mind me I'll just remove myself from the game now! Please accuse amoungst yourselves." Pfft, again why do you need to convince your scum read of this when your supposedly being flipped in less than a day? How am I the only one who sees this? Clearly mafia tactics guys, come on | ||
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why do you need to convince your scum read of this when your supposedly being flipped in less than a day? | ||
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On January 15 2021 10:23 WaveofShadow wrote: Both of you, enough. I don't care at all about this feud Tictock I want to hear your opinion on other stuff. Obi Dandel Jat Slam I also would like you to tell me what you did last night. I'll take a step back, the point of "what's my plan when the nuke is shown fake" is actually kinda legit let me clear my head a bit My thoughts are all out in the open, and I did the same as when Dandel rolled us scum. I don't see the need to claim rn, but if we are actually in mylo here I will | ||
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On January 15 2021 10:24 ghostofconversion wrote: ive asked him 3 times to explain his thought process for post dandel and he spends 2 1/2 pages telling people im mafia Assuming for a moment you flip town at midday. I think Obi has to be next, but I'm not sure who would be last mafia then. Maybe Vivax is actually a SK or something and it's only 2 mafia? Idk, I don't think I will change my mind on Wave or Ever. Jat is a possibility for sneaky scum I suppose. I'd have to revaluate a fair bit honestly. | ||
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On January 15 2021 10:29 Vivax wrote: I'm thinking about it. I need to find a 100 % scum guy in order to carry myself because now I lose if town does. The yams + HF kill combo speaks for Obi scum and add to that the unlurk and crappy post when yams called him mafia last night. I think Dandel is the obviuse scum here, but yea Obi is almost for sure scum too. Take your pick Dandel at least makes fun posts | ||
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A good ol Mak'gora is a great finish, worked for the last shit expansion of WoW + Show Spoiler + Besides we can always just kill Vivax if chooses poorly | ||
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I'm pretty sure I know who wins in a battle vs myself. Would be a shame to not murder Dandel today though. | ||
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I have a green check on Ever. Ever stop playing the fucking game, you are being worse than useless just moaning about this shit | ||
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Eversince is Town. Dont lynch | ||
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Stop. Pit your phone down and think about what you've been adding to the game with your posts. Take 10 hours or whatever to just read not not post, Then come back. Fucking geezus | ||
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I used the name check on Sho N0 and the cop check on Ever last night. | ||
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On January 15 2021 13:20 Eversince wrote: No, I gave up doing most of that way earlier. I'm full Bill Murray right now. Ok, just promise to not talk about yourself for the next 2 cycles, nobody was going to lynch you today. | ||
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On January 15 2021 13:28 WaveofShadow wrote: So after all of this we're right back to where we were at the start of the day TT that's a weird thing to claim imo, I dont think anyone was scum on ever aside from herself or some shit But checks make sense and I have no reason to doubt anything. She didn't seem like she would ever stop moping otherwise | ||
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On January 15 2021 13:33 ghostofconversion wrote: still think best shot is to figure out dandel vs slam, which I'm leaning into dandel, or just lynch obi. the weird "should you role claim or not" doesn't ever come from town imo lol. like im already dead who cares what my role is that's my opinion though If you are in fact town here, which I will admit I am warming up too. Then Obi is mafia by pure PoE. Slam has still put him myself out there too much to be mafia imo, and I don't think me/him being weak investigative roles is too much for town. Who does that leave? Or is Vivax actually mafia? | ||
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On January 15 2021 13:37 WaveofShadow wrote: If only one 30 and it's Vivax then scum team is dandel/obi/Jat? That's plausible | ||
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On January 15 2021 13:40 WaveofShadow wrote: LOL we gotta lynch him just for this post my GOD it's bad I mean, they have to be scrambling at this point. But yea, idk how anyone can question that you saved Yam and are confirmed town. | ||
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On January 15 2021 13:41 Eversince wrote: I have a soft spot for wave ( and few other old schoolers here) but I'm not buying Wave. Vivax more likely but no filter so ignore because it's most meta stuff. There was no kill N1 and HF confirmed he targeted Yam to make a QT which backfired and gave almost the whole game access to this QT. Wave claimed to have targeted Yam that night with a reversal ability, which is confirmed by HFs QT going out to everyone. So occam's razor, especially with a green flipped Yam, is that Wave also saved Yam that night. Though I suppose there is some WIFOM here since we don't know why both HF and Yam died last night. | ||
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I mean I'm for this duel with Obi but it does lock our options. Dunno if we really have a say though >.< | ||
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I will ignore it from now on. Let's kill the anti-town with KP dude! | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Sorry, not sure what to do with myself while waiting to see if that's legit or not. | ||
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I'll just be cryptic and say HF pointed me in the right direction. I will gladly take equally cryptic advice on where to explore after getting the Mantis Hook from Mantis Village. I feel like I've explored everywhere but Fog Canyon kus I don't seem to be able to progress in that area yet, but only place my nap isn't filled in. | ||
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Seeing Vivax's duel is legit... I question how smart it would be for scum!Vivax to use his duel to save scum!Dandel from mean ol' Slams checks. By that I mean scum!Vivax would have to KNOW conversion's nuke is real (oh shit I need to check on that), will flip green and want to push endgame today. Like why go for a 1v1 as scum there when there might have been other mislynches to push. Idk, I need to not go too far into WIFOM on this as I realize my claim may have made scum panic if they were planning to push me today. Also both Dandel and Vivax have claimed 3P, and the simple answer there is that they are actually both just scum and there is no 3P this game. So, leaning Vivax. Still have a chuck of my meal break, gunna actually eat and try to catch-up some with what I have left. | ||
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On January 15 2021 20:31 justanothertownie wrote: Did the thought that he might know this via some mafia power never even enter your mind? Right... Jat feels like that uncle who came by to drop stuff off, just coincidentally while you are having a party... But it's 'cool' because he's 'down to party' | ||
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On January 15 2021 20:00 Vivax wrote: But his latest post made me more confident, if anything. He needs to start spinning a narrative where I'm not third party to survive this. So will the other mafia. It is a possibility to consider. I will say though I generally do find your claim hella legit. Not only do I see Happa giving me the ability and wincon you gave but making me 3P after I said in the last few games I kinda wanted to play 3P sometime | ||
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On January 15 2021 22:08 justanothertownie wrote: Eversince wasn't but TT certainly was. It is possible that he is mafia and she is town. But I was clearly trying NOT to claim and only did so that Ever could stop and be useful. | ||
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On January 15 2021 22:13 Vivax wrote: Yeah so here you are slowly spinning up that narrative where I‘m not 3p. If you‘re mafia here you just went all in and wouldn‘t survive an Obi red flip. My only issue with Jat being mafia is that I don't think he is mafia with Dandel. Jat tried to push off Sho and onto Dandel yesterday. If we are in a world where Dandel is not mafia then Slam is mafia and you are almost for sure mafia kus I don't believe in a world with multiple 3P for my sanity. Also why would scum!Jat care about the lynch at all then if it's TvT. And to fully shut this thought dow. Since I am out of time, no way does this world exist because then scum!Vivax just dueled Obi to save 3P Dandel. | ||
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On January 15 2021 22:19 Vivax wrote: Disagree on Dandel, but one at a time. Still think ur nuke is a dud. This post gave me modivation to open Vivax's filter and see if he seemed to think this before the duel as well, but that was inconclusive. I did reread these though On January 15 2021 10:32 Vivax wrote: I think Ever, Slam, Obi are all mafia tbh. But I'm probably going to duel Obi. On January 15 2021 11:20 Vivax wrote: But you said Dandel is 100 % mafia no? So why are you judging Obi from a point of view where Dandel did it as town? Also TMI ;> I think in reaction to Dandel's claim, mafia obviously played it safe and was reluctant to give a vote. Town either yolo voted because fun was more important or grew suspicious of the claim because that's what town does, HF also asked for more info. Mafia on the other hand was more passive/careful, asked an irrelevant question (Slam), didn't commit (Obi), or did other stuff (Jat?Conv?Ever?). Which to me doesn't make a ton of sense to me, but I could see this being Vivax's legit thinking here. Clearly though It has to be either Vivax/Dandel/+1 here or Vivax is 3P. I also liked these On January 15 2021 17:05 Vivax wrote: If Obi is town, this is me: + Show Spoiler + In the meantime: How did you guess what Eversinces personality was? Can't remember any SlamSlang in that filter. On January 15 2021 19:59 Vivax wrote: There's peeps doubting my claimed ability so I felt like I had to use it. I'm your captain now and I'll go down with the ship if Obi isn't scum. Right after using the duel ability. These really read like Vivax isn't sure, not like he is pushing Obi because he Needs Obi to die today for the win. | ||
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On January 15 2021 22:28 ghostofconversion wrote: I'm never mafia in this scenario fyi so one of TT/Wave so your team is Dandel/Vivax +1? After my thoughts on Jat and knowing Conversion did flip green.Plus wave is effectively confirmed, I don't care about some 1% possibility he fake claimed after seeing no shot go through and no counterclaim has happened. The only possibility left for the +1 is Ever, which would take some low odd possibility that she is GF (Alaka-father?) . Maybe Jat is both playing like a stick in the mud and bussing his team but meh... Oh and Slam is clearly not in that team kus that'd be like we have the 3 stooges all trying to both drive the bus and run each other over with said buss. Which while sorta an amazing concept on its own, it too ludacris | ||
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On January 16 2021 00:02 Alakaslam wrote: Exactly. Vivax’s work is too good to be scum now. 3p or town and he has claimed 3p so that is what he is Humm LOL, noting this as I go because I am pretty sure Vivax had stated, before the post Slam started on here, that he didn't trust slam's claim. On January 16 2021 00:22 Alakaslam wrote: That is exactly why there is so much WIFOM now though dude. You’re a 3P claim. There is no guarantee that there is 3P. I have CAUGHT DANDEL. This shit couldn’t wait for tomorrow? Oh, of course not- you have to save your scum mate! This feels legit. On January 16 2021 00:29 WaveofShadow wrote: I mean at least the tension is real here now We still almost certainly all agree to hit obi and win or lose based on that, and it'll be exciting If he used it on dandel like a good boy we would have all afked until tomorrow Yea, this is true lol. Bonus points to Vivax On January 16 2021 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah seriously. Btw, what kind of 3p has a dueling ability at all? That doesn't make any sense lmao. It kinda really does though, well it depends on the wincon exactly but it makes SO MUCH sense for it being my role and then rolling me 3P as I said before. Like, thus is an aside kus I have 2 min before I gotta get back, that Cannons game I pulled up and linked a while ago when I fed up linking conversion's filter. I endgamed that by it being me vs scum and me submitting a list of like 15 actions for each potential cycle for scum to try and mindgame me over. Think of it like I chose my next 15 rock paper scissors moves and submitted that before a match. That role is me 100% | ||
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On January 16 2021 00:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I still kind of don't really think it's TT. Why does TT claim cop here if he's mafia? I think he also falls into the same category I do where people just kind of constantly throw his name down and expect him to be mafia, and then are ultimately surprised when he doesn't flip mafia. I do relate to this | ||
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On January 16 2021 01:13 Alakaslam wrote: S U P MAH NIGGA Have I successfully been you? :D I am JAT. I think the game is over so may as well claim and gloat Also, roleplaying you made me play significantly better sensei lol Uhh, Slam this game should only be over if you are scum here getting a ML. We do actually have to lynch mafia to win. I'm gunna put this out of my mind rn kus if I take this as the slip I read it as I won't think about the game anymore and blindly lynch Obi. | ||
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On January 16 2021 01:20 Alakaslam wrote: WAIT WAIT WAIT THERE IS WIFOM did he save Yama on purpose necessarily? Did he know he was saving yama? His role is to reverse actions right? Who says that isn’t a scum power? There is WIFOM you see not with the eyes of CHUPAZI, the juices flow greatly this game as they have not in half a decade Well... This is a load of bullshit. | ||
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On January 16 2021 02:04 WaveofShadow wrote: I've been trying to fish for it but there's really no way anyone would ever own up to visiting yamato so I tried to use my ability on him again last night, so either he was protected and I killed him, or I was roleblocked Honestly I would say RB but that doesn't explain the extra KP. I could understand another Prot role not wanting to claim though, we really could use another save. So in essence, probably not a productive line of thinking here. | ||
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On January 16 2021 02:31 ghostofconversion wrote: like in no way does a mafia team ever make a move before confirming whether my nuke is real or not Yea this has been where my head is at as well, well this and the posts right before. I'm sorry it took you nuking yourself before we could work together conversion >.< | ||
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On January 16 2021 08:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Wait I havent given this a ton of thought. Is this MYLO now? Do we have to lynch Vivax? Conversion flipping does put us in MyLo I believe, there is maybe room for a save tonight. I'm starting to worry I am going to run out of time here though. I might give up reading the thread and just look at Obis filter. At the moment I find Vivax's play and claim unlikely to be scum. | ||
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On January 16 2021 11:20 Vivax wrote: My role is selfish, I can't just stay alive and win with the town. I also can't win if town loses now, and town can't win either way if Obi is town and I'm 3p. So if the town wants to self-own when Obi is scum, vote me. If mafia wants to troll, fuck off. I've devoted enough attention to this phase. If Obi is town, then gg? But then he shouldn't give a shit either, but he does. Wait does this check? We are at 8 ppl now. If we are in the worst case scenario where no mafia are up for lynch now and Vivax is 3P, then lynching town!Obi is auto lose and 3P Vivax getting lynched leads to 3v3 tomorrow assuming no saves... So either one of you is scum or this comes down to night actions? Oof | ||
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On January 16 2021 12:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote: These posts are easily faked as mafia tbh - nothing in there is particularly special or enlightening or exclusively from town. Btw, if Vivax wasn't sure then he should have waited for people to talk to him about what he was doing. And none of this really erases the fact that he saved confirmed mafia from today's lynch by doing this. NEVER FORGET that the reason we're not all enjoying our weekend is because Vivax dueled me instead of letting us put dandel out to pasture. I guess you are right and there was a few hours gap in there. Just not how I expect scum to push an all in play is my point. | ||
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Yea I hadn't thought through the numbers yet to realize if we lynch 3P Vivax we might be fucked anyway. By my point about us lynching mafia today would mean this game goes for more cycles is valid. Claims also are super bad if we somehow come down to night actions here. | ||
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On January 16 2021 16:12 Eversince wrote: Nah.. Shove between the two. If you're not s/3p just sway lynch on the town, shoot, win. Simple. Huh? | ||
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On January 16 2021 16:42 Eversince wrote: Ok.. Give me a second. Slams claim, even if true, not proven, confirmed people? He got Dandel has KP one night, then Dandel does not win with town last night. So assuming Slam is telling the truth then Dandel does have to be mafia or at best an SK. Interestingly I think Vivax just said he cannot win with town either so idk. I'm tempted to open up another line of WIFOM about setup but kinda besides the point atm. I'm fairly convinced Vivax is legit 3P here, need to decide if Obi has a decent chance to be town. | ||
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I am voting Obi. I just don't think Vivax is scum here and is legit 3P, which means lynching him is basically a lose unless we somehow get a save. Obi makes too much sense in multiple scum team, and though thereis a chance he is town and lynching him will lose the game I find this the only option for us to win the game. So risking it for the biscuit, which is what I am baking all day so feels apt. | ||
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Not going to do a long thing as I agree with a lot of what Hapa already put out and I don't see the point of bashing people for questionable plays. I think I put in scumQT but if not I legit faked the check to get Ever to stop. I was happy to just soft it and leave as is until the day went on, but I legit wanted Ever to stop and that killed 2 birds as they say. I had more fun than I expected this game, I was very close to /outing due to this starting right as my work began to go back to normal. My team deserves a lot of credit, JAT for staying off the radar while subtlly pushing ouf agenda. Dandel for basically playing too scum to be scum and for being so willing to go down for the team but somehow managing to keep people guessing. And again, he put a fair bit of effort into his hosting despite it not doing much but make a lot of confusion. And this got kinda long. Shut it down! I need sleep after staying up last night and working ~10 hours today. | ||
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I was kinda stupid and misundertstood (probably just reading it how I hoped it worked) Vivax's "can't win with town" as "can win with mafia" so I tried super hard to signal to Vivax I knew some of his PM text and get him to duel Obi. It worked, but prob more since I got myself town-read hard that cycle and Vivax didnt trust Slam for some reason. Something Ever said in game made me want to post this, but I dont think I did kus I didnt want to goof around too much by then (or was at work, idk). I also was very sincere about the advice I gave to actually skip reading every cycle if you are low on time and can't read fast. I've genuinely skipped 20+ pages as town to focus on the cycle at hand, and only read the shit I missed via filters later. Actually a legit strat as not EVERY post is crucial to a game, and doing this is kinda like a "pallet cleanser" for the mind since your not trying to think about evey little thing that has happened. Then again I am a bit of a madman so take my advice at your own risk. | ||
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He put out a bit too much WIFOM, "lies to get reaction/results" whatever you wanna call it and really added to the atmosphere of town not coaleseing. He did have JAT very concerned about HF proting himself but both me and Dandel were like "he's full of it dude" IMO Oh I also thought it was a small stroke of brilliance to get ppl to vote for Wave in the QT when I knew we were RBing him and he wouldn't be saving anyone. Obi getting a save woulda changed the game. This game def suffered the "Town has too many good roles" and I feel the anti-claim mechanic prob needed to be a little stronger. I don't think scum could have actually done anything if massclaiming happened. Otherwise mad props to making a very fun and interesting game Hapa and Grey! | ||
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On January 18 2021 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: I read D0 and thought you were mafia and Vivax too, that's what i used my time on figuring out who is scum. I guess that's not bad, after that i was just rooting for town to not lynch Dandel. I notice in Obs QT when I read it >.< First cycle is always a bit rough for me as scum, tough balancing my own motivation and trying to scum hunt. Thankfully I am extremely used to being scumread and can usually keep myself balanced between being scumread and actually lynched. Well if I actually have time to play that is. Converison really needed to bring out an actual case on me though, He made it really easy for me to just fling shit back and forth to the point I think ppl kinda didnt care or want to get involved. Idk if I would have been able to change Yam's mind on me. I think I was close and flipping Dandel would have given me/Jat some breathing room. | ||
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I'm sure the question of why you were still alive would never have been brought up. | ||
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On January 18 2021 03:19 Holyflare wrote: Don't fool yourself into thinking my wifom had anything to do with 90% of the game not particularly playing to any meaningful extent lol. I didn't want to get protected because I wanted to die tbh. I think it's largely a bad idea you get actual access to QTs though and not something that's really been in any game I've played in so you literally knew what was happening with the prot which is quite silly. Agree you should have had better anti claims and I knew it could be broken with mass claims so didn't particularly bother with calling for one. Good thing I didnt say that >.< I do agree about the QTs, I also thought giving Jat access to the Prot QT due to him sorta-kinda already having it through Dandel/Me was not really right. I did enjoy the theme of QT creation though, with striker guidlines I think it could be a cool mechanic. | ||
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On January 18 2021 05:03 justanothertownie wrote: I think that person was mafia!TT. No, your WIFOM was a pain in the ass for mafia and generally not a bad thing. The bad thing is when you actually try to get killed because you don't want to play. Which I also understand since you were more or less the only townie actively and properly playing this game. This forum apparently isn't what it used to be. ?? | ||
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*** and about 4... please explain how a game with two three at least still have not read all roles- mechanics that can make the team unlynchable for a phase is town favored? I can't because I cant understand what you mean by this? I think you are counting jat's pardon, Dandel's power, and Vivax's ability? Dandel's and Jat's powers wouldn't activate in MyLo/LyLo and the pardon is basically a scum claim if used. We had no control over Vivax and how he chose to use his ability (he wasn't actually mafia aligned, and I think he WAS trying to help lynch scum, ask him), so really we had Dandel's ability and that was great for confusion but only protected Dandel. As for the check, "had KP" is NOT a redcheck and you even backed down on thinking Dandel was mafia for it at one point. It should have been enough to get him lynched though imo. I do think this game was incredibly balanced for what it was, but it easily could have played out very poorly for scum. You complain scum had "three" ways to make themselves unlynchable, well town had a one shot JK, the ability to invert KP into a Prot, and Prot via Obi. Not to mention your checks or if Vivax had dueled scum instead of town. As Hapa said not not working together, not pursuing your checks, playing to lose, creating extra confusion etc is the reason town lost. And nobody claimed this was an uphill battle, just that objectively the roles and mechanics all tend to favor town a little more than scum. | ||
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