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On October 28 2020 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol no, in general mafia is way more likely to read the op than town...
I disagree with that
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On October 28 2020 22:01 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 21:12 Acrofales wrote:On October 28 2020 21:09 Dirkzor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The TL Mafia Database
The TL Mafia Database is a wealth of information, and has assisted players with their quest for victory in many games. Sadly, it is in a sorry state of disrepair. Weakening security protocols and new technology has enabled greater access, but more serious danger of Aperture Science infiltration. Without proper care, the database will destabilize with disastrous results.
Each night, a player, instead of performing any action they may have, may visit the database and target another player. You will recieve a clue about that player's role or the setup at large. You can choose to learn whether your target has a role that has been in a previous aperture game before, If your target has activated some part of their role, what modifiers, if any, are currently affecting your target, or what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause.
Because your connection to the database is unencrypted, Aperture Science will learn who you have targeted, but not the information you obtain. Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways.
If no players visit the Database, it will continue to destabilize, causing the Corruption Counter to increase by 1. In addition, if too many people (half a majority of players alive - for example, 4 players with 12 players alive) visit the database, the corruption counter will increase by 1. At corruption levels of 1, 3, and 5, a special effect will occur that will modify the game in some way.
I think it would be nice to know what happens when the corruption counter increase. So maybe we could have 1 person check that and report back tomorrow. 4 people using this device (unless other, better, night actions available) does seem like a good strategy for us. The more info we have the easier it gets to find scum/third parties... Wait. You *want* corruption to increase?!!! Is it scummy to not read and understand setup? I bolded a part in the spoiler. A person who uses the database can check what happens at the next corruption level. I want to know what that is. I might not be negative (i assume it is) but knowing is good.
I found the answer: Its not scummy
I want to send the maximum amount of people to the database without increasing the corruption. Today that would be 3. one of them should figure out what increasing the corruption does...
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On October 28 2020 22:57 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 22:01 Dirkzor wrote:On October 28 2020 21:12 Acrofales wrote:On October 28 2020 21:09 Dirkzor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The TL Mafia Database
The TL Mafia Database is a wealth of information, and has assisted players with their quest for victory in many games. Sadly, it is in a sorry state of disrepair. Weakening security protocols and new technology has enabled greater access, but more serious danger of Aperture Science infiltration. Without proper care, the database will destabilize with disastrous results.
Each night, a player, instead of performing any action they may have, may visit the database and target another player. You will recieve a clue about that player's role or the setup at large. You can choose to learn whether your target has a role that has been in a previous aperture game before, If your target has activated some part of their role, what modifiers, if any, are currently affecting your target, or what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause.
Because your connection to the database is unencrypted, Aperture Science will learn who you have targeted, but not the information you obtain. Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways.
If no players visit the Database, it will continue to destabilize, causing the Corruption Counter to increase by 1. In addition, if too many people (half a majority of players alive - for example, 4 players with 12 players alive) visit the database, the corruption counter will increase by 1. At corruption levels of 1, 3, and 5, a special effect will occur that will modify the game in some way.
I think it would be nice to know what happens when the corruption counter increase. So maybe we could have 1 person check that and report back tomorrow. 4 people using this device (unless other, better, night actions available) does seem like a good strategy for us. The more info we have the easier it gets to find scum/third parties... Wait. You *want* corruption to increase?!!! Is it scummy to not read and understand setup? I bolded a part in the spoiler. A person who uses the database can check what happens at the next corruption level. I want to know what that is. I might not be negative (i assume it is) but knowing is good. I found the answer: Its not scummy I want to send the maximum amount of people to the database without increasing the corruption. Today that would be 3. one of them should figure out what increasing the corruption does...
You are absolutely correct, and who would those people be?
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I am not saying i would be easy figuring out who those 3 people should be. I dont even know if we can verify that they actually went. I'm saying in a townie world where everyone is happy sunflowers we would send 3 people to get as much information as possible.
If we can find a viable way to do that I would be for it. People can volunteer? And we take it from there. I assume that a lot have some sort of night action because of the wording in OP but i really dont have a clue.
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Btw meeting is over. Kids coming home in 30 min.So if you want something from me shoot now. (not shoot me now) Wont have much time later today due to kids and dinner guests.
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On October 28 2020 22:57 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 22:01 Dirkzor wrote:On October 28 2020 21:12 Acrofales wrote:On October 28 2020 21:09 Dirkzor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The TL Mafia Database
The TL Mafia Database is a wealth of information, and has assisted players with their quest for victory in many games. Sadly, it is in a sorry state of disrepair. Weakening security protocols and new technology has enabled greater access, but more serious danger of Aperture Science infiltration. Without proper care, the database will destabilize with disastrous results.
Each night, a player, instead of performing any action they may have, may visit the database and target another player. You will recieve a clue about that player's role or the setup at large. You can choose to learn whether your target has a role that has been in a previous aperture game before, If your target has activated some part of their role, what modifiers, if any, are currently affecting your target, or what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause.
Because your connection to the database is unencrypted, Aperture Science will learn who you have targeted, but not the information you obtain. Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways.
If no players visit the Database, it will continue to destabilize, causing the Corruption Counter to increase by 1. In addition, if too many people (half a majority of players alive - for example, 4 players with 12 players alive) visit the database, the corruption counter will increase by 1. At corruption levels of 1, 3, and 5, a special effect will occur that will modify the game in some way.
I think it would be nice to know what happens when the corruption counter increase. So maybe we could have 1 person check that and report back tomorrow. 4 people using this device (unless other, better, night actions available) does seem like a good strategy for us. The more info we have the easier it gets to find scum/third parties... Wait. You *want* corruption to increase?!!! Is it scummy to not read and understand setup? I bolded a part in the spoiler. A person who uses the database can check what happens at the next corruption level. I want to know what that is. I might not be negative (i assume it is) but knowing is good. I found the answer: Its not scummy I want to send the maximum amount of people to the database without increasing the corruption. Today that would be 3. one of them should figure out what increasing the corruption does...
I find it strange you care so much about this? You think figuring out roles and setup will help solve game. I don't think it will help that much their are probably way to many hidden mechanics to coordinate successfuly. If anything discovering more about the setup will probably just help mafia.
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On October 28 2020 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean mafia, town, who?
Ideally I'd send 3 mafia! (1) they can't use night actions, (2) they are almost certain to survive the night, and (3) even if they lie about their findings, catching a scummer in a lie like that is great info.
So please, if you're mafia, volunteer to go to the TL Mafia Database tonight. It'll be a huge help!
(obviously, volunteering for this duty is *not* a scumtell).
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On October 28 2020 23:06 Acrofales wrote:Ideally I'd send 3 mafia! (1) they can't use night actions, (2) they are almost certain to survive the night, and (3) even if they lie about their findings, catching a scummer in a lie like that is great info. So please, if you're mafia, volunteer to go to the TL Mafia Database tonight. It'll be a huge help! (obviously, volunteering for this duty is *not* a scumtell).
yes, three top scumreads and one townie that looks for the counter +1.
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Oh ^ this is not me endorsing sending 3 people at all, which I think is far too risky.
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Good morning
The way of chupazi cannot live in the groggy one
I am too tired for how much sleep I have, sson
My question is, if we go planning who to send to the database- doesn’t that allow 3p or scum or whatever to prevent it if their goal is to increase corruption? I think that is part of the mechanic, that people have that extra personal decision every night.
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so basically top 3 scummers +1 towniest person. it's also good that people need to give an opinion on that, aka force even mafia to give reads 
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On October 28 2020 23:06 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 22:57 Dirkzor wrote:On October 28 2020 22:01 Dirkzor wrote:On October 28 2020 21:12 Acrofales wrote:On October 28 2020 21:09 Dirkzor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The TL Mafia Database
The TL Mafia Database is a wealth of information, and has assisted players with their quest for victory in many games. Sadly, it is in a sorry state of disrepair. Weakening security protocols and new technology has enabled greater access, but more serious danger of Aperture Science infiltration. Without proper care, the database will destabilize with disastrous results.
Each night, a player, instead of performing any action they may have, may visit the database and target another player. You will recieve a clue about that player's role or the setup at large. You can choose to learn whether your target has a role that has been in a previous aperture game before, If your target has activated some part of their role, what modifiers, if any, are currently affecting your target, or what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause.
Because your connection to the database is unencrypted, Aperture Science will learn who you have targeted, but not the information you obtain. Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways.
If no players visit the Database, it will continue to destabilize, causing the Corruption Counter to increase by 1. In addition, if too many people (half a majority of players alive - for example, 4 players with 12 players alive) visit the database, the corruption counter will increase by 1. At corruption levels of 1, 3, and 5, a special effect will occur that will modify the game in some way.
What else is there to do at this point? Talk about how a giant smiley is indicating scum or town? Its also, imo, a way to get people talking to the point where we have something more relevant to talk about. But mostly im just curious. I the kind of guy who want to know... because... just because. (see question about Monadel from before game start.) Its a puzzle i can crack I think it would be nice to know what happens when the corruption counter increase. So maybe we could have 1 person check that and report back tomorrow. 4 people using this device (unless other, better, night actions available) does seem like a good strategy for us. The more info we have the easier it gets to find scum/third parties... Wait. You *want* corruption to increase?!!! Is it scummy to not read and understand setup? I bolded a part in the spoiler. A person who uses the database can check what happens at the next corruption level. I want to know what that is. I might not be negative (i assume it is) but knowing is good. I found the answer: Its not scummy I want to send the maximum amount of people to the database without increasing the corruption. Today that would be 3. one of them should figure out what increasing the corruption does... I find it strange you care so much about this? You think figuring out roles and setup will help solve game. I don't think it will help that much their are probably way to many hidden mechanics to coordinate successfuly. If anything discovering more about the setup will probably just help mafia.
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On October 28 2020 23:07 Alakaslam wrote:
My question is, if we go planning who to send to the database- doesn’t that allow 3p or scum or whatever to prevent it if their goal is to increase corruption? I think that is part of the mechanic, that people have that extra personal decision every night.
If we decide to send X number of people, and that we let's say vote for who goes, there is no way mafia can "hold off" from going without consequenses (or like we know a pool where a liar is).
If they decide to add up someone to increase the level (this first time -- i am not talking about future phases), then it's again more info for the town, like you know someone is lying and if we sent "3 scum" then we can be sure not all of those three are mafia.
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On October 28 2020 23:06 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 22:57 Dirkzor wrote:On October 28 2020 22:01 Dirkzor wrote:On October 28 2020 21:12 Acrofales wrote:On October 28 2020 21:09 Dirkzor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The TL Mafia Database
The TL Mafia Database is a wealth of information, and has assisted players with their quest for victory in many games. Sadly, it is in a sorry state of disrepair. Weakening security protocols and new technology has enabled greater access, but more serious danger of Aperture Science infiltration. Without proper care, the database will destabilize with disastrous results.
Each night, a player, instead of performing any action they may have, may visit the database and target another player. You will recieve a clue about that player's role or the setup at large. You can choose to learn whether your target has a role that has been in a previous aperture game before, If your target has activated some part of their role, what modifiers, if any, are currently affecting your target, or what effect the next stage of corruption level will cause.
Because your connection to the database is unencrypted, Aperture Science will learn who you have targeted, but not the information you obtain. Other factions may be able to use the database in their own ways.
If no players visit the Database, it will continue to destabilize, causing the Corruption Counter to increase by 1. In addition, if too many people (half a majority of players alive - for example, 4 players with 12 players alive) visit the database, the corruption counter will increase by 1. At corruption levels of 1, 3, and 5, a special effect will occur that will modify the game in some way.
I think it would be nice to know what happens when the corruption counter increase. So maybe we could have 1 person check that and report back tomorrow. 4 people using this device (unless other, better, night actions available) does seem like a good strategy for us. The more info we have the easier it gets to find scum/third parties... Wait. You *want* corruption to increase?!!! Is it scummy to not read and understand setup? I bolded a part in the spoiler. A person who uses the database can check what happens at the next corruption level. I want to know what that is. I might not be negative (i assume it is) but knowing is good. I found the answer: Its not scummy I want to send the maximum amount of people to the database without increasing the corruption. Today that would be 3. one of them should figure out what increasing the corruption does... I find it strange you care so much about this? You think figuring out roles and setup will help solve game. I don't think it will help that much their are probably way to many hidden mechanics to coordinate successfuly. If anything discovering more about the setup will probably just help mafia.
I wrote my reply inside the quote train somewhere... Here it is:
What else is there to do at this point? Talk about how a giant smiley is indicating scum or town? Its also, imo, a way to get people talking to the point where we have something more relevant to talk about.
But mostly im just curious. I the kind of guy who want to know... because... just because. (see question about Monadel from before game start.) Its a puzzle i can crack
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i think it is possible that iamp is mafia.
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On October 28 2020 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think it is possible that iamp is mafia.
Not possible
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We can make a resistance game out of it. Someone nominates a 3p team and the rest vote if it goes or not.. Majority rules. Sounds fun!
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On October 28 2020 23:15 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think it is possible that iamp is mafia. Not possible
Okay.
Do you think Dirkzor basically opens with the most anti-town thing you can ever do? I mean without discussing it with his teammates (i guess you can argue that me/Arcofales or both are his teammates)?
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I'm just being realistic. The best bet in these games is the lynch coordinating and plans can be mucked around with to much in these games.
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