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On October 28 2020 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 23:15 iamperfection wrote:On October 28 2020 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think it is possible that iamp is mafia. Not possible Okay. Do you think Dirkzor basically opens with the most anti-town thing you can ever do? I mean without discussing it with his teammates (i guess you can argue that me/Arcofales or both are his teammates)?
What are you saying he's being to brash to be mafia? I guess so maybe.
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I could get behind that the more I think about it
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On October 28 2020 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:so basically top 3 scummers +1 towniest person. it's also good that people need to give an opinion on that, aka force even mafia to give reads 
I mean, perfect world yes but do you really expect scum ti cooperate with us? Because I don’t.
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On October 28 2020 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 23:07 Alakaslam wrote:
My question is, if we go planning who to send to the database- doesn’t that allow 3p or scum or whatever to prevent it if their goal is to increase corruption? I think that is part of the mechanic, that people have that extra personal decision every night. If we decide to send X number of people, and that we let's say vote for who goes, there is no way mafia can "hold off" from going without consequenses (or like we know a pool where a liar is). If they decide to add up someone to increase the level (this first time -- i am not talking about future phases), then it's again more info for the town, like you know someone is lying and if we sent "3 scum" then we can be sure not all of those three are mafia.
People can just claim RB’d though? I’m not seeing how we can enforce this.
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On October 28 2020 23:26 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:so basically top 3 scummers +1 towniest person. it's also good that people need to give an opinion on that, aka force even mafia to give reads I mean, perfect world yes but do you really expect scum ti cooperate with us? Because I don’t.
Do you agree with the conclusion that drikzor is more likely town?
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On October 28 2020 23:19 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2020 23:15 iamperfection wrote:On October 28 2020 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think it is possible that iamp is mafia. Not possible Okay. Do you think Dirkzor basically opens with the most anti-town thing you can ever do? I mean without discussing it with his teammates (i guess you can argue that me/Arcofales or both are his teammates)? What are you saying he's being to brash to be mafia? I guess so maybe.
yes i dont think he'd do that without discussing it first with his teammates.
the intention of my first post was to get reaction from him mainly, because we just talked about the other game before the game started. I think it's actually best to full-claim with everyone at the start of the game (i also know that's not gonna happen because people dont believe in it), i havent lost an all-roled game where people actually did that, ever. 
I kinda thought he was mafia when he didnt post at first, but then he came in with a really really anti-town suggestion about the corruption level (if you are town you know what i mean, townies mainly fear for unknown -- as they should). It's like, he would have to take a step back to wait for his teammates to answer my opening, but then he just goes with THAT of everything he could have said.
If you get what i mean.
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On October 28 2020 23:15 Dirkzor wrote:
We can make a resistance game out of it. Someone nominates a 3p team and the rest vote if it goes or not.. Majority rules. Sounds fun!
Fair enough maybe this is the goal? To combine resistance with mafia
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On October 28 2020 23:28 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 23:26 Alakaslam wrote:On October 28 2020 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:so basically top 3 scummers +1 towniest person. it's also good that people need to give an opinion on that, aka force even mafia to give reads I mean, perfect world yes but do you really expect scum ti cooperate with us? Because I don’t. Do you agree with the conclusion that drikzor is more likely town? yes. Agrees with my gut feeling on him.
I don’t think scum has actually posted yet.
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On October 28 2020 23:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 23:19 iamperfection wrote:On October 28 2020 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2020 23:15 iamperfection wrote:On October 28 2020 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think it is possible that iamp is mafia. Not possible Okay. Do you think Dirkzor basically opens with the most anti-town thing you can ever do? I mean without discussing it with his teammates (i guess you can argue that me/Arcofales or both are his teammates)? What are you saying he's being to brash to be mafia? I guess so maybe. yes i dont think he'd do that without discussing it first with his teammates. the intention of my first post was to get reaction from him mainly, because we just talked about the other game before the game started. I think it's actually best to full-claim with everyone at the start of the game (i also know that's not gonna happen because people dont believe in it), i havent lost an all-roled game where people actually did that, ever. I kinda thought he was mafia when he didnt post at first, but then he came in with a really really anti-town suggestion about the corruption level (if you are town you know what i mean, townies mainly fear for unknown -- as they should). It's like, he would have to take a step back to wait for his teammates to answer my opening, but then he just goes with THAT of everything he could have said. If you get what i mean.
Is it so anti town though? We literally don’t know what it does; finding out gives info. That’s how I took it.
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On October 28 2020 23:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 23:19 iamperfection wrote:On October 28 2020 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2020 23:15 iamperfection wrote:On October 28 2020 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think it is possible that iamp is mafia. Not possible Okay. Do you think Dirkzor basically opens with the most anti-town thing you can ever do? I mean without discussing it with his teammates (i guess you can argue that me/Arcofales or both are his teammates)? What are you saying he's being to brash to be mafia? I guess so maybe. yes i dont think he'd do that without discussing it first with his teammates. the intention of my first post was to get reaction from him mainly, because we just talked about the other game before the game started. I think it's actually best to full-claim with everyone at the start of the game (i also know that's not gonna happen because people dont believe in it), i havent lost an all-roled game where people actually did that, ever. I kinda thought he was mafia when he didnt post at first, but then he came in with a really really anti-town suggestion about the corruption level (if you are town you know what i mean, townies mainly fear for unknown -- as they should). It's like, he would have to take a step back to wait for his teammates to answer my opening, but then he just goes with THAT of everything he could have said. If you get what i mean.
I get you
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I wouldn't say it's a super strong town reading but not a bad one.
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On October 28 2020 23:30 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 23:28 iamperfection wrote:On October 28 2020 23:26 Alakaslam wrote:On October 28 2020 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:so basically top 3 scummers +1 towniest person. it's also good that people need to give an opinion on that, aka force even mafia to give reads I mean, perfect world yes but do you really expect scum ti cooperate with us? Because I don’t. Do you agree with the conclusion that drikzor is more likely town? yes. Agrees with my gut feeling on him. I don’t think scum has actually posted yet.
That's a bold claim for no reason.
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hmm, i actually read on of Dirkzor's posts wrong, he was not really saying he wants the corruption counter to increase. So ditch that town read.
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On October 28 2020 23:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 23:19 iamperfection wrote:On October 28 2020 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 28 2020 23:15 iamperfection wrote:On October 28 2020 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think it is possible that iamp is mafia. Not possible Okay. Do you think Dirkzor basically opens with the most anti-town thing you can ever do? I mean without discussing it with his teammates (i guess you can argue that me/Arcofales or both are his teammates)? What are you saying he's being to brash to be mafia? I guess so maybe. yes i dont think he'd do that without discussing it first with his teammates. the intention of my first post was to get reaction from him mainly, because we just talked about the other game before the game started. I think it's actually best to full-claim with everyone at the start of the game (i also know that's not gonna happen because people dont believe in it), i havent lost an all-roled game where people actually did that, ever. I kinda thought he was mafia when he didnt post at first, but then he came in with a really really anti-town suggestion about the corruption level (if you are town you know what i mean, townies mainly fear for unknown -- as they should). It's like, he would have to take a step back to wait for his teammates to answer my opening, but then he just goes with THAT of everything he could have said. If you get what i mean.
I think you're reading a hell of a lot into it.
(1) I don't really see how his mechanic discussion was good or bad. It was mechanics discussion. He misunderstood something and yolo'd it. He really did understand something else and latched onto it, and it's a good idea for town, so I don't see how him saying to send 4 people (bad) to find out what 1 person (good) should find out was so outrageously anti-town.
(2) You are expecting a hell of a lot of coordination from scum. I admit it has been a long time since I played mafia, but my experience with scum teams has been that coordination in anything except Grand Schemes (TM) during the day is pretty non-existent. That said, if this is a hugely anti-town proposal, I guess it's a Grand Scheme, and a scummer would want to run it by his team-mates first. But I don't see his remarks as anything I would run by my buddies if it was scum!me making them.
Maybe explain it to me in babysteps, as I really don't see it.
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Yeah i agree his mechanic discussion was not alignment indicative at all.
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On October 28 2020 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm, i actually read on of Dirkzor's posts wrong, he was not really saying he wants the corruption counter to increase. So ditch that town read.
Why does that change your thinking that much though. Isnt it just that he was gunhoe about it it not being that anti town shouldn't matter much
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On October 28 2020 23:49 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2020 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm, i actually read on of Dirkzor's posts wrong, he was not really saying he wants the corruption counter to increase. So ditch that town read. Why does that change your thinking that much though. Isnt it just that he was gunhoe about it it not being that anti town shouldn't matter much
He wasn't really suggesting anything. Acrofales initially thought Dirkzor was wanting to increase to counter (i took it as face value that's what Dirkzor said when i was at work and reading). That i think would have been a really bold statement for mafia to make, but in fact Dirkzor didn't make any statement at all now that i read it.
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Am I retarded or was kitaman in this game?
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On October 28 2020 23:53 iamperfection wrote:
Am I retarded or was kitaman in this game?
yes he was, i think he has been replaced with THE MEETINGS!!!!!!!!!! :D
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EPT
