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On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers. Do you want to go? I don't really care either way. From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from. I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.
I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.
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On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers. Do you want to go? I don't really care either way. From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from. I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go.
It just says something happens I don't think it's that important
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On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers. Do you want to go? I don't really care either way. From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from. I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go. I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie.
Why? I don't understand.
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On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers. Do you want to go? I don't really care either way. From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from. I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go. I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie. Why? I don't understand.
Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.
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On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers. Do you want to go? I don't really care either way. From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from. I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go. I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie. Why? I don't understand. Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.
Oh that's a good point.
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On October 29 2020 00:31 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers. Do you want to go? I don't really care either way. From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from. I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go. I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie. Why? I don't understand. Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission. Oh that's a good point.
I would doubt extremely that they would have actions figured out yet too
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On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.
I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.
I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played. Do you always post this... constructed?
I try to present my reads in a very constructed format.
That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup.
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On October 29 2020 00:33 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:31 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers. Do you want to go? I don't really care either way. From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from. I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go. I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie. Why? I don't understand. Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission. Oh that's a good point. I would doubt extremely that they would have actions figured out yet too
Lemme check the QT. Oh wait.
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On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.
I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.
I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played. Do you always post this... constructed? I try to present my reads in a very constructed format. That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup.
Lol your basically saying your a survivor
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On October 29 2020 00:36 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:33 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:31 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers. Do you want to go? I don't really care either way. From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from. I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go. I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie. Why? I don't understand. Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission. Oh that's a good point. I would doubt extremely that they would have actions figured out yet too Lemme check the QT. Oh wait.
I mean it's likely that not everyone has even read their role pm yet that was my thinking
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On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.
I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.
I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played. Do you always post this... constructed? I try to present my reads in a very constructed format. That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup.
I hate survivor claims. But yeah, feel free to afk all game. Zzzzz.
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On October 29 2020 00:39 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.
I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.
I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played. Do you always post this... constructed? I try to present my reads in a very constructed format. That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup. I hate survivor claims. But yeah, feel free to afk all game. Zzzzz.
What no we force him to win with town I will make him
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On October 29 2020 00:42 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:39 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.
I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.
I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played. Do you always post this... constructed? I try to present my reads in a very constructed format. That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup. I hate survivor claims. But yeah, feel free to afk all game. Zzzzz. What no we force him to win with town I will make him
That's the sprit. I really missed playing with you 
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On October 29 2020 00:42 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:39 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.
I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.
I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played. Do you always post this... constructed? I try to present my reads in a very constructed format. That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup. I hate survivor claims. But yeah, feel free to afk all game. Zzzzz. What no we force him to win with town I will make him
Okay... lead the way. But color me skeptical that you can force a survivor to do much of anything. I briefly entertained the idea that he's a scummer fake claiming early on to afk all game but it just seems so... lazy. I mean. Maybe? I guess we just don't let him use it as a "get out of lynch free" card.
For starters, @Hapa: you have to visit the TL Database tonight. You don't get to use your Night Actions as I don't trust you.
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If it was anyone other than Hapa i would lynch that claim immediately.
Let's say you are town.
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On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers. Do you want to go? I don't really care either way. From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from. I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go. I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie. Why? I don't understand. Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission.
I dont understand who decided this is a "town mission"?
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On October 29 2020 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers. Do you want to go? I don't really care either way. From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from. I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go. I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie. Why? I don't understand. Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission. I dont understand who decided this is a "town mission"?
He's saying he wouldn't volunteer to do an action as he might have to carry kp
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On October 29 2020 00:55 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 29 2020 00:30 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:28 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:27 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:26 Grackaroni wrote:On October 29 2020 00:22 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I could go to the database if we're looking for volunteers. Do you want to go? I don't really care either way. From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from. I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go. I wonder if the scumteam already figured out their night actions? If that is unlikely, this seems pretty townie. Why? I don't understand. Scum has to (1) use roles, and (2) carry KP. So unless they already figured out who is carrying KP and what roles they're using, a scum!Grack shouldn't volunteer to go on a town mission. I dont understand who decided this is a "town mission"? He's saying he wouldn't volunteer to do an action as he might have to carry kp
At least this early that is
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hmm idk, maybe. I could do the same Grack did as mafia, i think. Hell it's not even guaranteed you "go", because people are not just gonna say "grack goes" without anything.
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On October 29 2020 00:49 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2020 00:42 iamperfection wrote:On October 29 2020 00:39 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:34 Hapahauli wrote:On October 29 2020 00:24 Acrofales wrote:On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Slightly town.
I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things:
1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town;
2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database;
3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives.
I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played. Do you always post this... constructed? I try to present my reads in a very constructed format. That all being said, I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking about how I want to approach this game, because my role has two win conditions. One is that I can win with town, and the other is... a bit strange, but potentially pro-town. I may choose to reveal more as I learn more about the setup. I hate survivor claims. But yeah, feel free to afk all game. Zzzzz. What no we force him to win with town I will make him Okay... lead the way. But color me skeptical that you can force a survivor to do much of anything. I briefly entertained the idea that he's a scummer fake claiming early on to afk all game but it just seems so... lazy. I mean. Maybe? I guess we just don't let him use it as a "get out of lynch free" card. For starters, @Hapa: you have to visit the TL Database tonight. You don't get to use your Night Actions as I don't trust you.
I wish I could say I was purely a survivor, but my alternate win-con is a good deal more complicated than that. After all, it's a Greymist game.
That all being said, I don't mind visiting the database, but I have a couple of questions:
1) I thought we were playing "resistance" for Database slots.
2) Why do you believe you can force me to do anything, if you freely admit that you can't generally force survivors do to anything?
3) Why do you discount the possibility that my win-con may have something to do with the Database?
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