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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 05 2019 23:51 GMT
#7
/in
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 15 2019 16:15 GMT
#59
/out

Soz quitting
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 15 2019 16:15 GMT
#60
On September 14 2019 08:28 Tubesock wrote:
Gotta /out.

The baby came two weeks early.


Also, congrats!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 27 2019 20:18 GMT
#365
I don't know why I joined this game lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 27 2019 20:20 GMT
#366
FF seems pretty townie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 27 2019 20:28 GMT
#368
It was a joke lol :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 27 2019 20:28 GMT
#369
Don't expect me to read much. Can anyone summarise something?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 27 2019 23:33 GMT
#381
On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2019 13:58 CopCake wrote:
Lets talk GB, since you seem town.

I have been playing once in a while, last two games were bad.


Alright, what do you wanna talk about?

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On September 26 2019 19:36 Vivax wrote:
Im leaning mafia on BF for now. But Im aware that when little of value has been posted by others, I might just be paying too much attention to those who actually post.

On a reread, I found it strange that BF found it necessary to comment on nobody posting for six minutes, but mostly I found his reply to GB with the extra spaces forced. I dont see a townie reason for BF to be so distrustful within the first few posts.

GB so far looks like hes having fun so he can go to town pile. Hes a pretty good scum player but he tends to go full emo as mafia and fooled me with it in the past iirc.

FF feeling offended for the mod power thingy rubs me the wrong way too since I never suggested he actually did it. Mostly mentioned it because it was the reason I got to stare at his icon and see a pinocchio.


I had the exact opposite reaction to boxerfred's opening. I don't think FF's answer to you was alignment indicative.

Also, why are you townreading me and talking about me going full emo as scum? It seems that you're trying to justify a future shift of your read on me.

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On September 26 2019 21:44 Eywa- wrote:
On September 26 2019 21:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
On September 26 2019 21:09 Eywa- wrote:
vote:Branch.AUT

If you guys are really nice, I might even give you his partner before I get night killed.

as usual, dead wrong

Also, the fact that he immediately is considering that I'm incorrectly voting instead of being mafia... Almost like he knows I'm town which he also has no reason to believe.


This feels like you decided he is mafia before finding the arguments to it. This "perfect information" argument isn't convincing.

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On September 26 2019 22:08 Eywa- wrote:
On September 26 2019 22:01 Branch.AUT wrote:
Right, moving one from this waste of time now. Thanks for the entertaining trail of posts though, had a good laugh

Agreed, unfortunately you are being lynched today.

We should probably start discussing the day 2 lynch now. If Branch flips town, you should definitely be considering me as an option.

I have some ideas for who his partner is, but I'd like to give everyone the opportunity to play.


I'd rather hear you now. Could you please share who his partner is?

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On September 26 2019 22:18 Branch.AUT wrote:
I like what boxerfred has pasted so far. He seems to be interested in the game and looking for contributions.
I have to disagree with his GB read though. Most of what GB posted so far seems to be chatting and everything outside the game. It does indeed seem ligh hearted, but well within the range of a good scum player as far as I am concerned.


I'm not a good scum player. I am an okay scum player. To be fair, it's not really hard to detect me when I'm scum. I was lynched almost every game I played as scum. The point is: as scum, I usually act as a support. When I flip, people get everything wrong. Which is great . But rest assured that I'm not scum in this game.
(And if I was, I wouldn't be telling you this)

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On September 26 2019 23:33 Eywa- wrote:
It is amusing though that you interpret my shit posting as an attempt to flesh out a scum read. Branch is outed scum, I really don't have to make a case for it.


Yes, you do, and this tunnel seems very fabricated.
##Vote: Eywa-





This is a really bad post.

Not only does it discredit Eywa's extra points on Branch (that Branch was saying Eywa was wrong, rather than mafia) but it also downplays exactly how he plays as mafia too. From what I remember of GB being mafia he's pretty good.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 27 2019 23:35 GMT
#382
I like Branch's reaction to Eywa calling him mafia. Ignores Eywa's spam and then moves onto giving more scum reads.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 27 2019 23:36 GMT
#383
I'm just going to make one large catch up post instead I think
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 00:21 GMT
#384
On September 27 2019 02:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:
There it is, I’ll sheep GB this round. Eywa is all over the place in my eyes. Just trying to stick shit to the wall.


I don't know what GB wrote in his bad post that warranted this sheep vote, please explain.

On September 27 2019 02:29 CopCake wrote:
I wouldnt touch Ewya this early tho GB


Very random defending of Eywa. What has Eywa done that GB shouldn't be touching?

On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote:
Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game.

And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo.

I would say that GB is town.
FF seems town.
Vivax smells mafia.
Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit.

I am curious about one thing with you.

And Ewya is null.



?????? Eywa is null and you can't read him but there's no point voting him because he was correct about rayn one time in another game? How on earth does this make sense unless you know he is town.

What makes GB town here? I don't think he's really posted anything. Vivax mafia, why? Shockey meh, why?

There's a bunch of fluff after this post from everyone that doesn't really get to the bottom of anything. GB buddies Vivax, "oh great post town buddy vivax" even though Vivax's post was just a mediocre accusation post. Only thing I actually like in GB's big quote wall is that he called out CopCake for what I said above. I don't think that absolves him though because it's easy to pick on unexplained reads and he hasn't pressured for a follow up at all.

On September 27 2019 06:27 CopCake wrote:
Ewya is town in my eyes now btw.


I don't get this at all either. It seems like you were posturing to say this the whole time while Eywa posted nothing of much value in between. Please explain how you went from Eywa is null to Eywa is town.

On September 27 2019 06:28 Tubesock wrote:
i think I like GB the best so far. But it’s weird, I don’t agree with his read post. Probably just happy he is playing again.

I’ve liked a couple things Vivax has said.

Part of me wants to town Eywa- but I’m pretty certain it would be trivial for mafia!Eeya- to do what he’s been doing.

As far as I’m concerned everyone else is probably mafia.


I haven't seen Tubesock's name in the thread yet so I'm going to assume this is his first post and it's quite possibly the worst in the thread so far. GB is liked the most (town read or not?) but he doesn't agree with his reads and says maybe it's just because he's playing again... so not content based. Vivax has posted not much as far as I'm aware and what he has posted has kind of mimicked GB's posts so if he's town reading Vivax why is he not town reading GB for content similarly? Eywa is town or mafia, ok. Everyone is mafia, ok.

Tubesock is mafia, free read for you all.

On September 27 2019 06:31 CopCake wrote:
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On September 27 2019 06:14 FreezingFoot wrote:
On September 27 2019 02:29 CopCake wrote:
I wouldnt touch Ewya this early tho GB


I can touch anyone I want, he was consenting, I can prove it.

On September 27 2019 02:53 Eywa- wrote:
On September 27 2019 02:50 Eywa- wrote:
On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:


This feels like you decided he is mafia before finding the arguments to it. This "perfect information" argument isn't convincing.




I can see where you're coming from, but you're wrong. I decided he was Mafia before posting the "arguments", but the "arguments" are not the reason that he's mafia, they are mostly just me mocking "cases".

It's not a huge distinction, but it is a significant one. Your post makes it seem like I was looking for arguments to justify why he was Mafia, but I'm not doing that at all. He is mafia, I'm telling you, if my track record is not enough to justify that, then I guess I would say... Sounds like you want to lose.


If you're not forcing that read, I'm having a hard time to understand why you think he is mafia. Is it for meta? Please explain to me like I'm a 4 y.o.

Btw, did you read you role pm?

On September 27 2019 03:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
I will say that branch after the eywa baseless accusation has given me feelings.

Also I'm gonna be on a sort of vacation for the next 4 days lmao i probably shouldn't have signed up but I'll grab some time when i can.

No real spammers here I'll be fine


Wait for me, I'll be spamming in a pinch.

On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote:
Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game.

And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo.

I would say that GB is town.
FF seems town.
Vivax smells mafia.
Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit.

I am curious about one thing with you.

And Ewya is null.



Cool. Why is Vivax mafia? Why shockey smells like mafia?
Ewayhijole- being right on rayn isn't proof he will be right in this game. Don't you think this is weak reasoning to give up on trying to read Ewaychupazi-?

On September 27 2019 05:06 Vivax wrote:
On September 26 2019 21:09 Eywa- wrote:
vote:Branch.AUT

If you guys are really nice, I might even give you his partner before I get night killed.


On September 26 2019 21:41 Eywa- wrote:
Branch dismissing me here when he has no reason to believe I'm bad at reading the game is really questionable and just adds onto the many other reasons you guys should be voting here.


This is ridiculous? You vote him out of nowhere and complain that hes dismissing you because youre supposedly good at the game.

Why should he think that if youre wrong and hes town? And if hes mafia why shouldnt he dismiss you?
In abstraction, you have delivered a prime example of damned if I do, damned if I dont.

If you dont acknowledge that this is plain BS with a backtrack and a formal apology to the god of logic Im voting you and never unvoting.


THAT'S MORE LIKE MY TOWN BUDDY VIVAX (maybe)

On September 27 2019 05:21 CopCake wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote:
Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game.

And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo.

I would say that GB is town.
FF seems town.
Vivax smells mafia.
Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit.

I am curious about one thing with you.

And Ewya is null.



I always smell like mafia every game I play. I just think it’s my posting style I guess... also why can’t we go after Eywa early?


Let him act. We can get info from that.
Just saying not the best lunch atm.


And who would be better?

On September 27 2019 05:47 Eywa- wrote:
On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:

I'd rather hear you now. Could you please share who his partner is?


This is not a good question, you are voting me... You want me to throw a name out, but you should be thinking...

What do I react if he says ______

If the answer is the same regardless, you might as well not ask the question. If you think I'm scum, it's also pointless.


I can't be sure if you're scum or not. I will always try to gather as much information as I can to sustain or change my read.
I want to understand your thought process. If I can't, you're probably fabricating reads. That's the point.
Who is his partner and why?




I agree that being right one game doesnt make that person the owner of the absolut truth; nevertheless in a next game you should at least read his opinion.

So I want to see his process, but rn he just acted as I remembered :D so I think he is town.

Now I need to analyze his read correctly to see if I agree ^^.


I don't see how you can reach this conclusion when you say:

A) You can't read Eywa as either alignment
B) He is acting as you remember him to act (presumably as town), which you said you can't read him as.

On September 27 2019 06:54 CopCake wrote:
I see Vivax as mafia, that is all you are going to get from me rn.

And back to work.

Detective GB, 🕵🏽‍♀️ since I think you are town, I hope we make a better team as townmates than mafiascummates.


This is the only follow up to the reads list she posted earlier and is still since unexplained.

On September 27 2019 11:56 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Then there's also this:

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On September 27 2019 06:27 CopCake wrote:
Ewya is town in my eyes now btw.


Lol... we haven't even got passed day one and Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eyes. I still think has a chance of being mafia. Soooo.... that's pretty quick to go from Null to Town. Just saying.


A++ I really like Shockey's follow up and pressure to Cop in this page, won't let unexplained things drop and doesn't just fall off to being dismissed.

On September 27 2019 13:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
Ok, I've re-read the game and I think Eywa- is right about Branch.

##Unvote
##Vote: Branch.AUT


I don't understand where this came from and is an extreme flip flop from the previous stance of "Eywa has circular logic and scum reads Branch for things after the fact." Even if you take what Eywa says at face value, that all that spam he was doing after his vote was a parody on cases (which GB didn't at the time) then what is Eywa's case. There isn't one, he left it up into interpretation and merely said he was scummy looking. So, it's just a pick on a low content poster bs case essentially that GB sheeps.

On September 27 2019 14:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote:
Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game.

And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo.

I would say that GB is town.
FF seems town.
Vivax smells mafia.
Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit.

I am curious about one thing with you.

And Ewya is null.


Here you claim you can't read eywa.
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On September 27 2019 06:27 CopCake wrote:
Ewya is town in my eyes now btw.

Now hes town to you.

Your willingness to buddy up to him. And even defend him, even though you freely admit you cant read this person makes zero sense.

Afterwards you hand him a town read because of what?


Don't know if I want to give credit to this since Shockey said it first? Maybe I will.

On September 27 2019 16:00 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On September 27 2019 13:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
Ok, I've re-read the game and I think Eywa- is right about Branch.

##Unvote
##Vote: Branch.AUT

Can you give me some specific posts or thoughts that make him scummy to you or is it just a lame tone gut read


What a professional, definitely town.

On September 27 2019 18:22 Vivax wrote:
in my opinion eywa got caught for his fallacy and tried to play dumb to not have to admit his mistake.

if youre town you wouldnt replace your argumentation with the wolffy tone read and implicitly stick to your prpven wrong argumentation.

i dont think my initial observation was so hard to understand that his first reaction was to point me to a Fecal post that was unrelated.

so, lets lunch eywa plz. ##Vote: eywa



What? Not sure what this even meant. You're saying he just put on bravado because he didn't want to admit he made up a case after his vote or what? You don't believe he thought Branch was scummy before his vote?

On September 27 2019 23:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Literally Eywa has nothing on Branch, there's barely any substance to just consider him mafia in the amount of time he does. This is why I grill you on Eywa over GB, GB is currently doing his normal self, and everytime we lynched GB he always flops as town. That's definitely an easy read. I'm questioning you because literally Eywa has no substance in his case against Branch to consider him mafia by the time he does.

Then you come in with an extreme defense of "Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eye". I say Eywa is mafia than you, but if you keep defending him on lack of substance, might as well call you mafia as well.


I will train this man in my image before my retirement, he will be the new me.

On September 27 2019 23:15 CopCake wrote:
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On September 27 2019 23:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Literally Eywa has nothing on Branch, there's barely any substance to just consider him mafia in the amount of time he does. This is why I grill you on Eywa over GB, GB is currently doing his normal self, and everytime we lynched GB he always flops as town. That's definitely an easy read. I'm questioning you because literally Eywa has no substance in his case against Branch to consider him mafia by the time he does.

Then you come in with an extreme defense of "Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eye". I say Eywa is mafia than you, but if you keep defending him on lack of substance, might as well call you mafia as well.


And a “magia Eywa” would just throw a randol name and expect people to follow him?

That is his mafia game?


I am basing my read on interactions, if he changes his personality because early game I didnt see it, then his normal self showed off in the way he answered GB with the random list dot org page.

Not saying he is right on his read, if you see I havent voted because my mafia read is Vivax.

I dont see the “fallacy”

Could you please point me what makes Ewya mafia?

A bad read? Early game? Trying to take the charge of town? When we have other two “Veterans” to yell at each other?


THIS IS A REALLY BAD POST REALLY REEALLLYYY BAD. HE DID THIS AND THEN YOU MADE A POST THAT SAID HE WAS NULL. NOW HE IS TOWN AND YOU'RE JUSTIFYING THE REASONS WHY WITH SOMETHING YOU SAID MADE HIM NULL.

On September 28 2019 00:03 CopCake wrote:
Boxer is town.



????????????????????????

On September 28 2019 00:08 CopCake wrote:
Mafia pile for me is vivax, shockey and branch.



?????????????????????????????????

On September 28 2019 01:30 FreezingFoot wrote:
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On September 27 2019 16:00 Fecalfeast wrote:
On September 27 2019 13:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
Ok, I've re-read the game and I think Eywa- is right about Branch.

##Unvote
##Vote: Branch.AUT

Can you give me some specific posts or thoughts that make him scummy to you or is it just a lame tone gut read


Yes.

He is too focused on bashing on Eywa instead of actually scum hunt.

If you check their interaction, Branch opted to just defend himself from Eywa, but not actually justifying his actions. He chose to discredit Eywa, and keeps on doing this.

He only appeared again in the forums once I voted him. It seems his only concern is surviving.

And re-reading Eywa, although I dislike how he is playing, I could see his tunnel coming from a town perspective. He could be town.


This isn't true, especially as he was calling out Cake above so I'm dropping you to the almost bottom of my list tier.

On September 28 2019 02:04 Tubesock wrote:
Bleh I don’t have any scumreads.


Nor posts.

On September 28 2019 02:08 Tubesock wrote:
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On September 28 2019 01:30 FreezingFoot wrote:
On September 27 2019 16:00 Fecalfeast wrote:
On September 27 2019 13:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
Ok, I've re-read the game and I think Eywa- is right about Branch.

##Unvote
##Vote: Branch.AUT

Can you give me some specific posts or thoughts that make him scummy to you or is it just a lame tone gut read


Yes.

He is too focused on bashing on Eywa instead of actually scum hunt.

If you check their interaction, Branch opted to just defend himself from Eywa, but not actually justifying his actions. He chose to discredit Eywa, and keeps on doing this.

He only appeared again in the forums once I voted him. It seems his only concern is surviving.

And re-reading Eywa, although I dislike how he is playing, I could see his tunnel coming from a town perspective. He could be town.


I think you’re wrong here. Eywa scummed him before he did anything, there’s no actions to defend. Eywa essentially did what rayn did when he was my mason partner (scumread hydra before he posted) and Eywa scumread rayn for it too.

Branch also dropped a couple reads so wasn’t always defending himself.


It's a good point that I just made above but it's literally just an observation in an otherwise dire filter from Tube. Interesting that he uses it to defend Branch and push Eywa who has flipped town now.



On September 28 2019 02:30 FreezingFoot wrote:
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On September 28 2019 02:29 Tubesock wrote:
On September 28 2019 02:24 FreezingFoot wrote:
On September 28 2019 02:16 Tubesock wrote:
What do people think of CopCake?

I’m 180 on their reads. Not sure how someone can town Boxer, and don’t like the Vivax, Shockeyy, Branch team.


I don't think you need to think of teams now TS.
Just vote the scummiest.

Who's the scummiest?


I’m not thinking of teams. I think that trio is more likely town.

Eywa Of the wagons. I’d rather see boxer or copcake be lynched due POE.




I'm comfortable in calling CopCake town for now, boxerfred is being boxerfred and his opening sounded townie to me (gut feelings)

I won't lynch these guys today


What the fuck does boxerfred being boxerfred mean?


Cop kind of explains her reads on this page. Branch looks mafia because of the asking about FF avatar thing and Shockey just looks fake with regards to GB? Meh, the shockey thing seems really like a stretch, Branch like a convenient excuse.

On September 28 2019 03:42 CopCake wrote:
Also anyone who says “b...b..but copcake your change of vote only means you knew the result” can go to my scumpile.


Welcome me to your scum pile :D

On September 28 2019 03:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Eywa (3): FreezingFoot, Vivax, ShoCkeyy, Tubesock
Branch.AUT (3): Eywa, FreezingFoot, CopCake
ShoCkeyy(0): CopCake
FecalFeast (0): FreezingFoot

Not Voting (3): FecalFeast, Branch.AUT, Boxerfred

Eywa has been lynched with 3 votes.



Really appalling vote count. Basically nobody did anything at deadline, I have no idea who branch nor boxer would have voted if they were here. GB and Copcake both town read Eywa hard and at no point campaigned to vote anyone properly. Cake unexplained all reads, voted for Shockey because his GB early post was too friendly, that obviously would get absolutely 0 traction with anyone and I am pretty sure she knows that. GB has reasons to town read Eywa and scum read Branch but doesn't push for the branch lynch at all.

On September 28 2019 04:31 FreezingFoot wrote:
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On September 28 2019 03:50 CopCake wrote:
On September 28 2019 03:46 FreezingFoot wrote:
On September 28 2019 03:40 CopCake wrote:
I would say Shockey is the scummiest of them all.



Only if Branch is mafia.


Not necessarily, mafia can jump at any wagon when there are two towns to be lunched, preferably they would pick the strong one.

You mentioned something about agreeing or understanding Ewya perspective before, care to share what you think of Branch?


I already talked about it, I can't filter it right now. But essentially, Branch wasn't really committed to anything other than dismissing Eywa and defending himself. The only moment he came back to the thread and started playing a bit more was when I voted him and a wagon was actually being formed on him.

I can understand a townie actually believing there was a scum slip and getting annoyed that people wasn't seeing what he was seeing. I don't think his attitude contributed, but I understood him.


THIS IS NOT WHAT EYWA SCUM READ BRANCH FOR, HE EVEN SAID IT WAS A FAKE PARODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 00:32 GMT
#386
Large unreadable wall, fun.

Town:

Shockeyy - has said everything that I've thought while scrolling through the thread, good all around pressure, needs to up the GB pressure

Null:

Tube - yes, he was free mafia but now he is not free mafia because I didn't hate his posts towards the deadline, feel free to call me a gardener because this is a massive hedge

Vivax - The posts on Eywa were very logical and Vivax like so the content is there but it's hard to tell with the thread being so shitty small. I'll see next cycle when I've spammed it.

Branch - Meh, nothing really to say. I liked his early ignoring of Eywa's vote. I liked that he accused cake, although it was off the back of Shockeyy so not really enough to warrant a town read. Has been a bit underwhelming so will reread but I don't think he's been too bad.


Mafia:

Copcake - Eywa reads being inconsistent, unexplained reads most of the game and dodges when asked. Finally gives reasons and they're really flimsy. Something, something voted to save Eywa because she knew his alignment :D She justified her town read on Eywa with points that she said made Eywa null. I will make a case later to show.

GB - ehhhhhhhh been massively mafia and then I kind of flip flopped a bit reading through but the after the lynch justification for Eywa being town that was completely and utterly wrong and didn't actually happen made him drop way way down to here again. Quite confident he is mafia in fact, he went after really low hanging fruit for 0 reasons other than no content to sheep Eywa even though he didn't even know what Eywa's points were.



Absolutely no opinion on:

boxerfred - Has he even posted? I don't legitimately remember anything and I just read the whole thread. Really fucking bad that GB has this guy as a gut town read.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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September 28 2019 00:42 GMT
#388
On September 28 2019 09:31 CopCake wrote:
Lol

HF you are always good at reading me when you are town but now you are just making nosense.

Better come and talk to me if you are town so I explain myself for like 483837272&/$7 time or go to scum pile.



Oh I will GLADLY go to your scum pile

On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote:
Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game.

And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo.


I would say that GB is town.
FF seems town.
Vivax smells mafia.
Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit.

I am curious about one thing with you.

And Ewya is null.



Here, you say Eywa is null. You say you can't read him correctly and that as EITHER alignment if you poke him he will be all "whatever" and not care about conversing with people. At no point do you state that he'd do something different as town that you could get a read on him one way or the other (you know, since you said you don't know how to read him correctly at all and pressuring him is worthless).


On September 27 2019 06:27 CopCake wrote:
Ewya is town in my eyes now btw.


Now, you have him as a town read.

On September 27 2019 06:31 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 06:14 FreezingFoot wrote:
On September 27 2019 02:29 CopCake wrote:
I wouldnt touch Ewya this early tho GB


I can touch anyone I want, he was consenting, I can prove it.

On September 27 2019 02:53 Eywa- wrote:
On September 27 2019 02:50 Eywa- wrote:
On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:


This feels like you decided he is mafia before finding the arguments to it. This "perfect information" argument isn't convincing.




I can see where you're coming from, but you're wrong. I decided he was Mafia before posting the "arguments", but the "arguments" are not the reason that he's mafia, they are mostly just me mocking "cases".

It's not a huge distinction, but it is a significant one. Your post makes it seem like I was looking for arguments to justify why he was Mafia, but I'm not doing that at all. He is mafia, I'm telling you, if my track record is not enough to justify that, then I guess I would say... Sounds like you want to lose.


If you're not forcing that read, I'm having a hard time to understand why you think he is mafia. Is it for meta? Please explain to me like I'm a 4 y.o.

Btw, did you read you role pm?

On September 27 2019 03:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
I will say that branch after the eywa baseless accusation has given me feelings.

Also I'm gonna be on a sort of vacation for the next 4 days lmao i probably shouldn't have signed up but I'll grab some time when i can.

No real spammers here I'll be fine


Wait for me, I'll be spamming in a pinch.

On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote:
Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game.

And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo.

I would say that GB is town.
FF seems town.
Vivax smells mafia.
Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit.

I am curious about one thing with you.

And Ewya is null.



Cool. Why is Vivax mafia? Why shockey smells like mafia?
Ewayhijole- being right on rayn isn't proof he will be right in this game. Don't you think this is weak reasoning to give up on trying to read Ewaychupazi-?

On September 27 2019 05:06 Vivax wrote:
On September 26 2019 21:09 Eywa- wrote:
vote:Branch.AUT

If you guys are really nice, I might even give you his partner before I get night killed.


On September 26 2019 21:41 Eywa- wrote:
Branch dismissing me here when he has no reason to believe I'm bad at reading the game is really questionable and just adds onto the many other reasons you guys should be voting here.


This is ridiculous? You vote him out of nowhere and complain that hes dismissing you because youre supposedly good at the game.

Why should he think that if youre wrong and hes town? And if hes mafia why shouldnt he dismiss you?
In abstraction, you have delivered a prime example of damned if I do, damned if I dont.

If you dont acknowledge that this is plain BS with a backtrack and a formal apology to the god of logic Im voting you and never unvoting.


THAT'S MORE LIKE MY TOWN BUDDY VIVAX (maybe)

On September 27 2019 05:21 CopCake wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote:
Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game.

And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo.

I would say that GB is town.
FF seems town.
Vivax smells mafia.
Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit.

I am curious about one thing with you.

And Ewya is null.



I always smell like mafia every game I play. I just think it’s my posting style I guess... also why can’t we go after Eywa early?


Let him act. We can get info from that.
Just saying not the best lunch atm.


And who would be better?

On September 27 2019 05:47 Eywa- wrote:
On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:

I'd rather hear you now. Could you please share who his partner is?


This is not a good question, you are voting me... You want me to throw a name out, but you should be thinking...

What do I react if he says ______

If the answer is the same regardless, you might as well not ask the question. If you think I'm scum, it's also pointless.


I can't be sure if you're scum or not. I will always try to gather as much information as I can to sustain or change my read.
I want to understand your thought process. If I can't, you're probably fabricating reads. That's the point.
Who is his partner and why?




I agree that being right one game doesnt make that person the owner of the absolut truth; nevertheless in a next game you should at least read his opinion.

So I want to see his process, but rn he just acted as I remembered :D so I think he is town.

Now I need to analyze his read correctly to see if I agree ^^.


But here you say that he acted as you remembered. This is directly contradictory to what you've said. You couldn't read him as either alignment, you don't know WHAT makes him town or mafia so you have no basis to say "Now he just acted as I remembered so he's town." That doesn't make sense at all.
On September 27 2019 06:43 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 06:33 Tubesock wrote:
On September 27 2019 06:31 CopCake wrote:
On September 27 2019 06:14 FreezingFoot wrote:
On September 27 2019 02:29 CopCake wrote:
I wouldnt touch Ewya this early tho GB


I can touch anyone I want, he was consenting, I can prove it.

On September 27 2019 02:53 Eywa- wrote:
On September 27 2019 02:50 Eywa- wrote:
On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:


This feels like you decided he is mafia before finding the arguments to it. This "perfect information" argument isn't convincing.




I can see where you're coming from, but you're wrong. I decided he was Mafia before posting the "arguments", but the "arguments" are not the reason that he's mafia, they are mostly just me mocking "cases".

It's not a huge distinction, but it is a significant one. Your post makes it seem like I was looking for arguments to justify why he was Mafia, but I'm not doing that at all. He is mafia, I'm telling you, if my track record is not enough to justify that, then I guess I would say... Sounds like you want to lose.


If you're not forcing that read, I'm having a hard time to understand why you think he is mafia. Is it for meta? Please explain to me like I'm a 4 y.o.

Btw, did you read you role pm?

On September 27 2019 03:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
I will say that branch after the eywa baseless accusation has given me feelings.

Also I'm gonna be on a sort of vacation for the next 4 days lmao i probably shouldn't have signed up but I'll grab some time when i can.

No real spammers here I'll be fine


Wait for me, I'll be spamming in a pinch.

On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote:
Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game.

And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo.

I would say that GB is town.
FF seems town.
Vivax smells mafia.
Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit.

I am curious about one thing with you.

And Ewya is null.



Cool. Why is Vivax mafia? Why shockey smells like mafia?
Ewayhijole- being right on rayn isn't proof he will be right in this game. Don't you think this is weak reasoning to give up on trying to read Ewaychupazi-?

On September 27 2019 05:06 Vivax wrote:
On September 26 2019 21:09 Eywa- wrote:
vote:Branch.AUT

If you guys are really nice, I might even give you his partner before I get night killed.


On September 26 2019 21:41 Eywa- wrote:
Branch dismissing me here when he has no reason to believe I'm bad at reading the game is really questionable and just adds onto the many other reasons you guys should be voting here.


This is ridiculous? You vote him out of nowhere and complain that hes dismissing you because youre supposedly good at the game.

Why should he think that if youre wrong and hes town? And if hes mafia why shouldnt he dismiss you?
In abstraction, you have delivered a prime example of damned if I do, damned if I dont.

If you dont acknowledge that this is plain BS with a backtrack and a formal apology to the god of logic Im voting you and never unvoting.


THAT'S MORE LIKE MY TOWN BUDDY VIVAX (maybe)

On September 27 2019 05:21 CopCake wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote:
Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game.

And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo.

I would say that GB is town.
FF seems town.
Vivax smells mafia.
Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit.

I am curious about one thing with you.

And Ewya is null.



I always smell like mafia every game I play. I just think it’s my posting style I guess... also why can’t we go after Eywa early?


Let him act. We can get info from that.
Just saying not the best lunch atm.


And who would be better?

On September 27 2019 05:47 Eywa- wrote:
On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:

I'd rather hear you now. Could you please share who his partner is?


This is not a good question, you are voting me... You want me to throw a name out, but you should be thinking...

What do I react if he says ______

If the answer is the same regardless, you might as well not ask the question. If you think I'm scum, it's also pointless.


I can't be sure if you're scum or not. I will always try to gather as much information as I can to sustain or change my read.
I want to understand your thought process. If I can't, you're probably fabricating reads. That's the point.
Who is his partner and why?




I agree that being right one game doesnt make that person the owner of the absolut truth; nevertheless in a next game you should at least read his opinion.

So I want to see his process, but rn he just acted as I remembered :D so I think he is town.

Now I need to analyze his read correctly to see if I agree ^^.


You don’t think he could be doing this as mafia?


I found odd he was being “nice” (specially to me, last game was something... rude)

Then we went full rude to GB and I am like ok, this is what i expect.




But now you've invented some meta that he's ONLY rude as town and not as mafia. If he can be rude as mafia (which he should be able to because you haven't ever said that you could determine the difference between his meta) then you can't possibly make this read without extra information about his alignment.

On September 27 2019 22:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 14:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote:
Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game.

And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo.

I would say that GB is town.
FF seems town.
Vivax smells mafia.
Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit.

I am curious about one thing with you.

And Ewya is null.


Here you claim you can't read eywa.
On September 27 2019 06:27 CopCake wrote:
Ewya is town in my eyes now btw.

Now hes town to you.

Your willingness to buddy up to him. And even defend him, even though you freely admit you cant read this person makes zero sense.

Afterwards you hand him a town read because of what?


Time passed.

I couldnt read him before.

Then I noticed “normal Ewya” and I was “ah he is town”

But you are not asking me why I think GB is locked town sir.



Similarly, there is no normal Eywa because you could not read him.

On September 27 2019 23:15 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 23:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Literally Eywa has nothing on Branch, there's barely any substance to just consider him mafia in the amount of time he does. This is why I grill you on Eywa over GB, GB is currently doing his normal self, and everytime we lynched GB he always flops as town. That's definitely an easy read. I'm questioning you because literally Eywa has no substance in his case against Branch to consider him mafia by the time he does.

Then you come in with an extreme defense of "Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eye". I say Eywa is mafia than you, but if you keep defending him on lack of substance, might as well call you mafia as well.


And a “magia Eywa” would just throw a randol name and expect people to follow him?

That is his mafia game?


I am basing my read on interactions, if he changes his personality because early game I didnt see it, then his normal self showed off in the way he answered GB with the random list dot org page.

Not saying he is right on his read, if you see I havent voted because my mafia read is Vivax.

I dont see the “fallacy”

Could you please point me what makes Ewya mafia?

A bad read? Early game? Trying to take the charge of town? When we have other two “Veterans” to yell at each other?



This is the real deal though. This is the timeline:

1. Eywa votes Batch
2. You say don't pressure Eywa, he's really null but he will just say whatever and not converse.
3. You say Eywa is town
4. You say Eywa would not just throw out a random name and expect people to follow him as mafia


If you EVER thought point number 4 was true and made Eywa town then point number 2 should never have ever existed in the first place, you shouldn't be able to say that if you think point 4 is correct. So, you've justified reading Eywa town after the fact at a time that's convenient for you and pressure is building on Eywa to look correct and then berate (a very townie looking Shockey) for calling you out on it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 00:42 GMT
#389
On September 28 2019 09:36 CopCake wrote:
Awww GB look, the nostalgia of being mafia together AGAIN.

Ofc I wouldnt rip off his fucking throat for what he did to me that time.


? What did he do?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 00:42 GMT
#390
I am almost positive that I'm going to be the nk after just subbing in.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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September 28 2019 00:58 GMT
#392
On September 28 2019 09:55 CopCake wrote:
This is it with my Ewya read

I had him at null but paying special attention to him because of last game.

Then I said that Ewya shouldnt be lynched, why? Because I consider him a good player, something similar to “Never lynch a veteran” rule, I didnt think I needed to explain that because last game everyone was like “oh do not touch HF or FF or Rayn or Ewya”, I wonder... why is it different here?


Finally, when Ewya was mean to GB (to put it in one way because he was extremely dick to me last game with one comment) I was like “yeah this dude is town being himself, nothing different from last game”

So there you go.

Was this enough? Do I need to clear myself better?

Actually I am not going to clear myself again because I dont have to, I know the town HF would sit down and try to understand town cake, if you dont even try... it is scummy.


That's... not what you said at all though, is it?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 00:59 GMT
#393
I can see you meaning "Don't prod him, he won't respond" as don't lynch him at a stretch but that completely excludes the reasons that you gave in the thread for you null reading him as "I can't read his meta"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 01:13 GMT
#396
On September 28 2019 10:08 FreezingFoot wrote:
He clearly said it was a slip
Clearly
He used this term: “slip”

Also branch responding copcake was simply ok defending himself.

Do you think eywa’s reasoning was right?


Prove it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 01:18 GMT
#398
On September 26 2019 21:47 Eywa- wrote:
What is this!?

A perspective slip!

And the crowd goes wild!

On September 27 2019 02:50 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:


This feels like you decided he is mafia before finding the arguments to it. This "perfect information" argument isn't convincing.




I can see where you're coming from, but you're wrong. I decided he was Mafia before posting the "arguments", but the "arguments" are not the reason that he's mafia, they are mostly just me mocking "cases".


If you think this first post was anything other than a facetious exaggeration I don't know what to say. EITHER WAY, you spent a long, long time saying that Eywa had circular logic and all that baloney only to then say you could see how he would have circular logic after his flip?????

Let me just requote your post:

I can understand a townie actually believing there was a scum slip and getting annoyed that people wasn't seeing what he was seeing. I don't think his attitude contributed, but I understood him.


BUT YOU COULDN'T SEE THAT AND IT WAS ALL A LIE LOL!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 01:19 GMT
#399
On September 28 2019 10:15 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 09:59 Holyflare wrote:
I can see you meaning "Don't prod him, he won't respond" as don't lynch him at a stretch but that completely excludes the reasons that you gave in the thread for you null reading him as "I can't read his meta"


Null is that I don't have an opinion at all, that he could be mafia or town.

I didnt have enough info back then.

But shruuuuugssssss



I get it, that's why I made the whole case on you being mafia. You're gonna have to do a whole lot of proving that you're not to me because I can't unsee it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 01:19 GMT
#400
On September 28 2019 09:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 09:36 CopCake wrote:
Awww GB look, the nostalgia of being mafia together AGAIN.

Ofc I wouldnt rip off his fucking throat for what he did to me that time.


? What did he do?


Please answer, very relevant.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 01:37 GMT
#403
On September 28 2019 10:30 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 10:18 Holyflare wrote:
On September 26 2019 21:47 Eywa- wrote:
What is this!?

A perspective slip!

And the crowd goes wild!

On September 27 2019 02:50 Eywa- wrote:
On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:


This feels like you decided he is mafia before finding the arguments to it. This "perfect information" argument isn't convincing.




I can see where you're coming from, but you're wrong. I decided he was Mafia before posting the "arguments", but the "arguments" are not the reason that he's mafia, they are mostly just me mocking "cases".


If you think this first post was anything other than a facetious exaggeration I don't know what to say. EITHER WAY, you spent a long, long time saying that Eywa had circular logic and all that baloney only to then say you could see how he would have circular logic after his flip?????

Let me just requote your post:

I can understand a townie actually believing there was a scum slip and getting annoyed that people wasn't seeing what he was seeing. I don't think his attitude contributed, but I understood him.


BUT YOU COULDN'T SEE THAT AND IT WAS ALL A LIE LOL!


I first thought it was a newbie scum trying to bring a bad argument against another newbie. He was over the top and evasive when I started pressuring him
Then I re read the game and I thought that branch’s reaction was scummy, and eywa’s posts started to make sense to me

Why do you think it’s is scummy?

Btw when I said “boxerfred being boxefred” o meant he is usually a lurker as far as I remember.


I think it's scummy because Eywa himself said during the day that everything after his vote was fake, it was all made up to parody people making cases. I've pointed it out again and you're still ignoring it. Even if you missed his post stating it's fake then the only accusations that Eywa had against Branch were:

A) He slipped?
B) He looked a bit scummy after Eywa voted?

Now you're saying that you re-read the game and you agree with Eywa's fake points that Branch was scummy after the vote??

Eywa's ACTUAL points were all things that Branch did BEFORE he voted for Branch. So, I can see you not actually understanding that and that's fine, but to say you agree with fake points while having argued that all of that logic is circular is really really bad.

Why do you town read cop and why are you ignoring all of the above on her?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 01:38 GMT
#404
On September 28 2019 10:24 CopCake wrote:
I would dare say that this is not the normal HF I know.

All scream yabadabagabbagabba.

0 logic.


On September 28 2019 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 09:42 Holyflare wrote:
On September 28 2019 09:36 CopCake wrote:
Awww GB look, the nostalgia of being mafia together AGAIN.

Ofc I wouldnt rip off his fucking throat for what he did to me that time.


? What did he do?


Please answer, very relevant.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 03:28 GMT
#406
Ok, I'm probably wrong on one of you two then.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 11:40 GMT
#411
On September 28 2019 18:54 Vivax wrote:
I dont know how to handle the fact that branch didnt vote. As mafia hed have missed a golden opportunity for an easy lynch. But being attacked by such an argument as town should have made him scumread eywa especialy after he stuck to his point of view. Id keep him null for now.

Gut wise Im feeling better about a town copcake world. Im a bit irritated that HF is using logic and consistency as means to read her. I think she just isnt used to process large globs of texts like we have been dooing for a decade, so incosistency is to be expected.

Really could use less shyness/afkness from tube branch and shockeyy.


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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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September 28 2019 11:41 GMT
#412
What exactly strikes you as town copcake?
Holyflare
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 16:03 GMT
#423
Lol ok cop might be town
Holyflare
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 18:25 GMT
#429
Ty for saving me :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 19:15 GMT
#437
On September 29 2019 03:57 CopCake wrote:
HF what are your reads rn?



Dunno :D you and gb not mafia together though

I think branch falls down a bit too
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 19:23 GMT
#442
On September 29 2019 04:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You seem upset I town read GB but not you, wonder why.


Wait you still town read gb? You reading the same thread?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 19:27 GMT
#446
The fuck are you guys talking about? You both have shit unexplained reads based on gut reads and argue that the other are hypocrites for like 5 pages now. Get on with something else or make a case.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 19:28 GMT
#448
On September 29 2019 04:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 04:23 Holyflare wrote:
On September 29 2019 04:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You seem upset I town read GB but not you, wonder why.


Wait you still town read gb? You reading the same thread?


Did I say still? I’m referring to the first day.


Ah, it was hard to tell that your gb read changed in between all of the 0 posts mentioning it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 20:33 GMT
#461
I don't remember how you play at all so poor argument tbh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 20:33 GMT
#462
What exactly am I doing that's poor play?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 20:37 GMT
#463
Who do you think got protected gb? :D :D :D
Holyflare
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September 28 2019 20:42 GMT
#464
Shockeyy who do you think is town? You haven't seem to have said much about it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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September 28 2019 21:13 GMT
#470
Am I living on another planet?????????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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September 28 2019 21:14 GMT
#471
On September 28 2019 10:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 10:30 FreezingFoot wrote:
On September 28 2019 10:18 Holyflare wrote:
On September 26 2019 21:47 Eywa- wrote:
What is this!?

A perspective slip!

And the crowd goes wild!

On September 27 2019 02:50 Eywa- wrote:
On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:


This feels like you decided he is mafia before finding the arguments to it. This "perfect information" argument isn't convincing.




I can see where you're coming from, but you're wrong. I decided he was Mafia before posting the "arguments", but the "arguments" are not the reason that he's mafia, they are mostly just me mocking "cases".


If you think this first post was anything other than a facetious exaggeration I don't know what to say. EITHER WAY, you spent a long, long time saying that Eywa had circular logic and all that baloney only to then say you could see how he would have circular logic after his flip?????

Let me just requote your post:

I can understand a townie actually believing there was a scum slip and getting annoyed that people wasn't seeing what he was seeing. I don't think his attitude contributed, but I understood him.


BUT YOU COULDN'T SEE THAT AND IT WAS ALL A LIE LOL!


I first thought it was a newbie scum trying to bring a bad argument against another newbie. He was over the top and evasive when I started pressuring him
Then I re read the game and I thought that branch’s reaction was scummy, and eywa’s posts started to make sense to me

Why do you think it’s is scummy?

Btw when I said “boxerfred being boxefred” o meant he is usually a lurker as far as I remember.


I think it's scummy because Eywa himself said during the day that everything after his vote was fake, it was all made up to parody people making cases. I've pointed it out again and you're still ignoring it. Even if you missed his post stating it's fake then the only accusations that Eywa had against Branch were:

A) He slipped?
B) He looked a bit scummy after Eywa voted?

Now you're saying that you re-read the game and you agree with Eywa's fake points that Branch was scummy after the vote??

Eywa's ACTUAL points were all things that Branch did BEFORE he voted for Branch. So, I can see you not actually understanding that and that's fine, but to say you agree with fake points while having argued that all of that logic is circular is really really bad.

Why do you town read cop and why are you ignoring all of the above on her?



I thought this was really fucking obvious.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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September 28 2019 21:17 GMT
#472
"cop/gb are mafia because they ignore eywa's posts and have inconsistent reads based on what he's actually posting"
"hur hur hf's logic is really bad tonight he's probably mafia"
"oh eywa's vote for branch was for points BEFORE everything he said, that's dumb!"

fml
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 21:17 GMT
#473
##vote branch

you don't get to say you're around and then do nothing and leave
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 21:26 GMT
#476
On September 29 2019 06:25 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 06:17 Holyflare wrote:
"cop/gb are mafia because they ignore eywa's posts and have inconsistent reads based on what he's actually posting"
"hur hur hf's logic is really bad tonight he's probably mafia"
"oh eywa's vote for branch was for points BEFORE everything he said, that's dumb!"

fml


I am mafia now.

🤷🏽‍♀️


They're in quotes, my dear, meaning this is something that was said earlier.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 21:30 GMT
#479
On September 29 2019 05:31 FreezingFoot wrote:
I’m on a wedding and just skimmed a bit of the thread.

HF, how many times did we play together? 15? 20? You know how I play as town. You’re calling me scum because, in your opinion, there is no “logic” in my posts? LOL you alwaysd use this as a reason to town read me in the past.

It seems to me that you came to the game for the sole reason to discredit me. I don’t think you’re playing well. And when I think this, you’re always Mafia.

##Vote: Holyflare


On March 07 2015 23:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 18:04 Holyflare wrote:
you guys can hate on the read all you want but i'll stick to it and dig up more later, mark my words!


Doesn't sound like a mock case.

I've re read your filter. It's find to do a mock case and get discussion going.
The main problem here is: you had a mock case but all you did for more than 24 hours is pushing this mock case of yours.

I know how you play HF. And when you play as town you are aware of the whole game. You see a suspicious thing and point it out, you'll say how faulty a logic is. This time, you mainly ignore the rest of the thread (pushed me without giving thoughts on the reasons I've brought on Robik/does not have an opinion on Rayn until now/does not comment on Rayn's case on Kelsier) just to push a case that you truly don't agree.

Answer me this: did you think I was town at the moment you made the case?
What do you think of Rayn?
Why would my mom be higher in my list?


I actually only had to search "hf logic" by user glowingbear to find this gem. Definitely mafia :D


##vote glowingbear
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 21:31 GMT
#480
On September 29 2019 06:28 CopCake wrote:
I mean I dont know what you tried to say with that post.


don't worry about it just vote GB free maf
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 21:32 GMT
#481
On September 29 2019 06:27 Branch.AUT wrote:
HF why do you think im mafia?


because I'm starting to think cop is probably town and so the sum total of your filter is piggy backing shockeyy suspicion on cake and afking while saying you're here to contribute now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 21:34 GMT
#485
On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...]

GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible.
If you don't understand why, then i can't help you.


"WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out.

Pushing a townie is okay.

Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not.

This is a really shitty case GlowingBear.....


Tell me what's wrong with it

Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid).
If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead.
Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does....


Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it.

He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me.

My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments.


15. Glowingbear mafia vanilla lynched day 3


read the quote chain bahahahahaaha
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 21:34 GMT
#486
On September 29 2019 06:33 CopCake wrote:
Ah, so you truly think I am mafia with GB.

Interesting but I am tired of “clearing myself”.

I might as well stop to post, at this rate I consider it losing value time.



?????????????????????????????????????????????????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 21:38 GMT
#489
+ Show Spoiler +
TSVGBANKHBGBILTBSOM
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 21:42 GMT
#491
On September 29 2019 06:42 Branch.AUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 06:32 Holyflare wrote:
On September 29 2019 06:27 Branch.AUT wrote:
HF why do you think im mafia?


because I'm starting to think cop is probably town and so the sum total of your filter is piggy backing shockeyy suspicion on cake and afking while saying you're here to contribute now

I dont get what you mean in saying "piggy backing sbockeyy". All I did was point out that copcakes read of eywa flipped frrom "no clue, cant ever read" to "town" without anythinf happening in thread. That was weird to me


I literally wrote a giant wall of text about it dude. Please read the thread or pretend to have?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 22:04 GMT
#496
On September 29 2019 06:55 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 06:34 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...]

GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible.
If you don't understand why, then i can't help you.


"WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out.

Pushing a townie is okay.

Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not.

This is a really shitty case GlowingBear.....


Tell me what's wrong with it

Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid).
If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead.
Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does....


Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it.

He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me.

My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments.


15. Glowingbear mafia vanilla lynched day 3


read the quote chain bahahahahaaha


How that’s relevant?


you've done crap all today but say I'm mafia for pushing logic

there are two quote chains from when you were mafia where you push me saying all I do is push logic

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 22:06 GMT
#497
what exactly am I supposed to town read you on gb? your flip flop on eywa without actually knowing what he's saying? you voting branch and saying after eywa died that NOW you could see his (fabricated) points as being valid?

that's opportunistic as fuck, you used a flipped eywa's points that you argued for an entire day were circular logic to re-confirm that you were going to call branch mafia again and you have essentially done absolutely nothing after voting branch d1
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 22:07 GMT
#498
let's just say I know I was protected and leave it at that eh?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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September 28 2019 22:07 GMT
#499
On September 29 2019 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
TSVGBANKHBGBILTBSOM

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 22:16 GMT
#505
On September 29 2019 07:13 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 07:06 Holyflare wrote:
what exactly am I supposed to town read you on gb? your flip flop on eywa without actually knowing what he's saying? you voting branch and saying after eywa died that NOW you could see his (fabricated) points as being valid?

that's opportunistic as fuck, you used a flipped eywa's points that you argued for an entire day were circular logic to re-confirm that you were going to call branch mafia again and you have essentially done absolutely nothing after voting branch d1


WHY WOULD I DO THAT AS MAFIA?


because branch has said shit all

eywa dies and you conveniently say his circular logic points are now valid so you can lynch branch? the fuck do I know what your master plan is?

you use all these points to conveniently do nothing but type in capital letters and say I'm mafia when I've hinted that I can prove I was shot multiple times, essentially trying to get information on what happened to me

you afk and only return to make comments ever since I entered the game

not once have you commented on a single case that I've written this entire game other than one on yourself where you said nothing in response but instead you just ad hom me and say "oh he's playing bad with bad logic" but never explain it

you either became really really bad at this game or are obviously just mafia and I am much more inclined to think the latter

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 22:19 GMT
#506
there is 0 risk to your credibility in your mind because you didn't even know Eywa's points were fabricated AND you said you independently came to reasons that branch was mafia

this is really really bad lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 22:20 GMT
#507
I hope everyone is reading this :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 23:08 GMT
#510
On September 29 2019 07:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 07:13 FreezingFoot wrote:
On September 29 2019 07:06 Holyflare wrote:
what exactly am I supposed to town read you on gb? your flip flop on eywa without actually knowing what he's saying? you voting branch and saying after eywa died that NOW you could see his (fabricated) points as being valid?

that's opportunistic as fuck, you used a flipped eywa's points that you argued for an entire day were circular logic to re-confirm that you were going to call branch mafia again and you have essentially done absolutely nothing after voting branch d1


WHY WOULD I DO THAT AS MAFIA?


because branch has said shit all

eywa dies and you conveniently say his circular logic points are now valid so you can lynch branch? the fuck do I know what your master plan is?

you use all these points to conveniently do nothing but type in capital letters and say I'm mafia when I've hinted that I can prove I was shot multiple times, essentially trying to get information on what happened to me

you afk and only return to make comments ever since I entered the game

not once have you commented on a single case that I've written this entire game other than one on yourself where you said nothing in response but instead you just ad hom me and say "oh he's playing bad with bad logic" but never explain it

you either became really really bad at this game or are obviously just mafia and I am much more inclined to think the latter



pretty self explanatory at this point

vote gb
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 28 2019 23:51 GMT
#511
I guess I shouldn't have returned. Only cake has even quoted something I've written and argued points with me. The rest of you just pointlessly comment and afk again and you enable mafia to just skate by doing nothing each and every game.

This will absolutely be my last game here.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 29 2019 01:10 GMT
#520
On September 29 2019 09:45 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
On September 26 2019 13:58 CopCake wrote:
Lets talk GB, since you seem town.

I have been playing once in a while, last two games were bad.


Alright, what do you wanna talk about?

On September 26 2019 19:36 Vivax wrote:
Im leaning mafia on BF for now. But Im aware that when little of value has been posted by others, I might just be paying too much attention to those who actually post.

On a reread, I found it strange that BF found it necessary to comment on nobody posting for six minutes, but mostly I found his reply to GB with the extra spaces forced. I dont see a townie reason for BF to be so distrustful within the first few posts.

GB so far looks like hes having fun so he can go to town pile. Hes a pretty good scum player but he tends to go full emo as mafia and fooled me with it in the past iirc.

FF feeling offended for the mod power thingy rubs me the wrong way too since I never suggested he actually did it. Mostly mentioned it because it was the reason I got to stare at his icon and see a pinocchio.


I had the exact opposite reaction to boxerfred's opening. I don't think FF's answer to you was alignment indicative.

Also, why are you townreading me and talking about me going full emo as scum? It seems that you're trying to justify a future shift of your read on me.

On September 26 2019 21:44 Eywa- wrote:
On September 26 2019 21:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
On September 26 2019 21:09 Eywa- wrote:
vote:Branch.AUT

If you guys are really nice, I might even give you his partner before I get night killed.

as usual, dead wrong

Also, the fact that he immediately is considering that I'm incorrectly voting instead of being mafia... Almost like he knows I'm town which he also has no reason to believe.


This feels like you decided he is mafia before finding the arguments to it. This "perfect information" argument isn't convincing.

On September 26 2019 22:08 Eywa- wrote:
On September 26 2019 22:01 Branch.AUT wrote:
Right, moving one from this waste of time now. Thanks for the entertaining trail of posts though, had a good laugh

Agreed, unfortunately you are being lynched today.

We should probably start discussing the day 2 lynch now. If Branch flips town, you should definitely be considering me as an option.

I have some ideas for who his partner is, but I'd like to give everyone the opportunity to play.


I'd rather hear you now. Could you please share who his partner is?

On September 26 2019 22:18 Branch.AUT wrote:
I like what boxerfred has pasted so far. He seems to be interested in the game and looking for contributions.
I have to disagree with his GB read though. Most of what GB posted so far seems to be chatting and everything outside the game. It does indeed seem ligh hearted, but well within the range of a good scum player as far as I am concerned.


I'm not a good scum player. I am an okay scum player. To be fair, it's not really hard to detect me when I'm scum. I was lynched almost every game I played as scum. The point is: as scum, I usually act as a support. When I flip, people get everything wrong. Which is great . But rest assured that I'm not scum in this game.
(And if I was, I wouldn't be telling you this)


On September 26 2019 23:33 Eywa- wrote:
It is amusing though that you interpret my shit posting as an attempt to flesh out a scum read. Branch is outed scum, I really don't have to make a case for it.


Yes, you do, and this tunnel seems very fabricated.
##Vote: Eywa-




So would you say GB is good or not? @Vivax @HF @Anyonewhohasplayedwithhiminthepast


You've played with him as mafia and you quoted his win rates before?

On September 28 2019 13:18 CopCake wrote:
Mafia Win Percentage (Minimum 7 games)
- Hide Spoiler -
Fecalfeast 7/7 = 100.0000%
GlowingBear 10/11 = 90.9091%

Ok, this is something.



Seems a bit artificial to ask this, of course he's good with a 10/11 win rate?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 29 2019 01:11 GMT
#521
I appreciate you looking into GB though, don't take this as a criticism.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 29 2019 02:33 GMT
#526
I'm here but should be asleep I guess. I don't know if I've been around when GB wins his mafia games, feels like I always catch him when he's mafia. Doesn't mean he's bad just that I have a solid read on him.

It's easy to catch him when you always call him mafia though :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 29 2019 02:35 GMT
#527
You don't catch him on tone, I know that much, he's good at faking that and spamming posts to appeal to people. It's the lack of content and coherent pushes that you get him on. Case in point is his push on branch and me. Do you know why he scum reads anyone for anything? I don't even know what his reads are at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 29 2019 03:44 GMT
#531
I am going to just call you town for the rest of the game cake so we may as well figure this out from there
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 29 2019 16:37 GMT
#571
On September 30 2019 00:51 Tubesock wrote:
I’m here for a little bit.

I don’t think we should kill any of the actives. HF, Cop, GB are likely all town. CopCakes seems to misread nearly everything, just look at what she just said to Vivax concerning me. GB has always said inconsistent things and been a bit wild when he’s town. As HF said, he always thinks he’s mafia.

As this is a 20 page game on D2, I think the odds of mafia being afk and forgetting to submit the nk are not insignificant. And further being such a low activity game, it’s even more likely mafia is lurking. So, why are we trying to kill the actives?


Can you really say gb is an active player? He's posted about 3.times since I joined.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 29 2019 21:19 GMT
#590
If you vote gb he will almost certainly turn up. So should probably get to that.

No coincidence that I absorb kp and he afks.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 30 2019 03:07 GMT
#609
On September 30 2019 08:22 CopCake wrote:
This quote bothered me a lot.

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 00:59 Branch.AUT wrote:
On September 30 2019 00:51 Tubesock wrote:
I’m here for a little bit.

I don’t think we should kill any of the actives. HF, Cop, GB are likely all town. CopCakes seems to misread nearly everything, just look at what she just said to Vivax concerning me. GB has always said inconsistent things and been a bit wild when he’s town. As HF said, he always thinks he’s mafia.

As this is a 20 page game on D2, I think the odds of mafia being afk and forgetting to submit the nk are not insignificant. And further being such a low activity game, it’s even more likely mafia is lurking. So, why are we trying to kill the actives?

HF or GB whos side are you on?


So I decided to filter you.


Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 20:52 Branch.AUT wrote:
On September 29 2019 19:03 Vivax wrote:
Good thing branch has posted. Bad thing he appeara really salty about being scumread.

Could use a few reads instead of a frothing mouth.

Copcake and HF are obviously showing interested in cooperating to solve the game. Strongest town performance of d2 so far.
I appreciate HFs explanation + case on GB, it is built on logical foundations and well argued.
As far as Im concerned GB could be a good lynch based on HFs work today.




Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 06:14 Branch.AUT wrote:
It's too early to commit my vote for the day. Too mich can happen on the next 20 hours.

Right now I am excluding copcake, vivax and myself.


You think HF made an excellent work on GB which is your top mafia read but he is not town enough to be on your list.

Yeah, no.

Posts like "which side are you on" are scummy, to me. It only invites people to take sides which you shouldn't if you are town, you look for the truth.






The reason he doesn't town read me is because of some nonsense vivax wrote that it could in my mafia range. It's pretty bad to say my case on gb is good and also not be voting him with me.

It also feels like he's ignored any other case I've put out there because he said 1 case doesn't make me town (but I've made at least 2-3).
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 30 2019 03:08 GMT
#610
On September 30 2019 12:04 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
On September 29 2019 05:31 FreezingFoot wrote:
I’m on a wedding and just skimmed a bit of the thread.

HF, how many times did we play together? 15? 20? You know how I play as town. You’re calling me scum because, in your opinion, there is no “logic” in my posts? LOL you alwaysd use this as a reason to town read me in the past.

It seems to me that you came to the game for the sole reason to discredit me. I don’t think you’re playing well. And when I think this, you’re always Mafia.

##Vote: Holyflare


On March 07 2015 23:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 06 2015 18:04 Holyflare wrote:
you guys can hate on the read all you want but i'll stick to it and dig up more later, mark my words!


Doesn't sound like a mock case.

I've re read your filter. It's find to do a mock case and get discussion going.
The main problem here is: you had a mock case but all you did for more than 24 hours is pushing this mock case of yours.

I know how you play HF. And when you play as town you are aware of the whole game. You see a suspicious thing and point it out, you'll say how faulty a logic is. This time, you mainly ignore the rest of the thread (pushed me without giving thoughts on the reasons I've brought on Robik/does not have an opinion on Rayn until now/does not comment on Rayn's case on Kelsier) just to push a case that you truly don't agree.

Answer me this: did you think I was town at the moment you made the case?
What do you think of Rayn?
Why would my mom be higher in my list?


I actually only had to search "hf logic" by user glowingbear to find this gem. Definitely mafia :D


##vote glowingbear


I guess I'm a good scum player, then


Is this a baby seal LOL :D :D :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 30 2019 03:09 GMT
#611
I fucking knew it!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 30 2019 03:12 GMT
#613
On September 30 2019 12:10 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 12:07 Holyflare wrote:
On September 30 2019 08:22 CopCake wrote:
This quote bothered me a lot.

On September 30 2019 00:59 Branch.AUT wrote:
On September 30 2019 00:51 Tubesock wrote:
I’m here for a little bit.

I don’t think we should kill any of the actives. HF, Cop, GB are likely all town. CopCakes seems to misread nearly everything, just look at what she just said to Vivax concerning me. GB has always said inconsistent things and been a bit wild when he’s town. As HF said, he always thinks he’s mafia.

As this is a 20 page game on D2, I think the odds of mafia being afk and forgetting to submit the nk are not insignificant. And further being such a low activity game, it’s even more likely mafia is lurking. So, why are we trying to kill the actives?

HF or GB whos side are you on?


So I decided to filter you.


On September 29 2019 20:52 Branch.AUT wrote:
On September 29 2019 19:03 Vivax wrote:
Good thing branch has posted. Bad thing he appeara really salty about being scumread.

Could use a few reads instead of a frothing mouth.

Copcake and HF are obviously showing interested in cooperating to solve the game. Strongest town performance of d2 so far.
I appreciate HFs explanation + case on GB, it is built on logical foundations and well argued.
As far as Im concerned GB could be a good lynch based on HFs work today.




On September 30 2019 06:14 Branch.AUT wrote:
It's too early to commit my vote for the day. Too mich can happen on the next 20 hours.

Right now I am excluding copcake, vivax and myself.


You think HF made an excellent work on GB which is your top mafia read but he is not town enough to be on your list.

Yeah, no.

Posts like "which side are you on" are scummy, to me. It only invites people to take sides which you shouldn't if you are town, you look for the truth.






The reason he doesn't town read me is because of some nonsense vivax wrote that it could in my mafia range. It's pretty bad to say my case on gb is good and also not be voting him with me.

It also feels like he's ignored any other case I've put out there because he said 1 case doesn't make me town (but I've made at least 2-3).


Yes but he called you town for your actions tho, not just that you share the same opinions on him about GB.

Btw, how many mafia do we have in this game?

I assumed it was two but Shockey says it is three.


How many players even are there lol

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 30 2019 03:12 GMT
#614
Tbh I don't even know when the deadline is
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 30 2019 03:13 GMT
#617
3 would be insane

Probably just 2
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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September 30 2019 03:14 GMT
#619
On September 30 2019 12:13 CopCake wrote:
GB talk to me, I like cute.



He just conceded?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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September 30 2019 03:18 GMT
#621
On September 30 2019 12:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 12:05 CopCake wrote:
Why would you sheep the read of your scummiest read?

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I DIE



Cause I can? All it means that if we lynch into town you’re more likely mafia. If we lynch into mafia then how can I be mafia by lynching my own teammate?


Now this is really circular logic. Lynching a townie does not make someone more likely mafia, only wrong. You could also quite easily bus and it's probably even encouraged in a 9 player mini.

I think I hate everything about this post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 30 2019 09:35 GMT
#648
On September 30 2019 15:14 Branch.AUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 08:22 CopCake wrote:
This quote bothered me a lot.

On September 30 2019 00:59 Branch.AUT wrote:
On September 30 2019 00:51 Tubesock wrote:
I’m here for a little bit.

I don’t think we should kill any of the actives. HF, Cop, GB are likely all town. CopCakes seems to misread nearly everything, just look at what she just said to Vivax concerning me. GB has always said inconsistent things and been a bit wild when he’s town. As HF said, he always thinks he’s mafia.

As this is a 20 page game on D2, I think the odds of mafia being afk and forgetting to submit the nk are not insignificant. And further being such a low activity game, it’s even more likely mafia is lurking. So, why are we trying to kill the actives?

HF or GB whos side are you on?


So I decided to filter you.


On September 29 2019 20:52 Branch.AUT wrote:
On September 29 2019 19:03 Vivax wrote:
Good thing branch has posted. Bad thing he appeara really salty about being scumread.

Could use a few reads instead of a frothing mouth.

Copcake and HF are obviously showing interested in cooperating to solve the game. Strongest town performance of d2 so far.
I appreciate HFs explanation + case on GB, it is built on logical foundations and well argued.
As far as Im concerned GB could be a good lynch based on HFs work today.




On September 30 2019 06:14 Branch.AUT wrote:
It's too early to commit my vote for the day. Too mich can happen on the next 20 hours.

Right now I am excluding copcake, vivax and myself.


You think HF made an excellent work on GB which is your top mafia read but he is not town enough to be on your list.

Yeah, no.

Posts like "which side are you on" are scummy, to me. It only invites people to take sides which you shouldn't if you are town, you look for the truth.





I agree, that was a horrible post. My coach already yelled at me, so theres no need to do so further.

As far as HF is concerned, I am not certain he is town yet. The last game I played with him, he really went after people, pushing and yelling at them to vote his target. Now he certainly lacks that fervor. His arguments are well prepared, and sound,but he himself is nowhere near invested enough in his read to force it into everybody. It is because of this lack of zeal from HF that I am not voting GB.

HF also was very eager to let everybody know multiple times that he "absorbed kp", which might already be a setup to counterclaim/discredit someone that eventually might claim the N1 nokill.
For this two reasons I am not sheeping him, and considering him to be possible scum.


Lol this guy is confirmed town answer I will never ever vote him
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 09:36 GMT
#649
And I*
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 09:37 GMT
#650
I did read your case cop and I'll get back to it at some point
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 11:47 GMT
#651
Tempting to let gb live because I didn't hate his response.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 11:48 GMT
#652
But then he wrote 3 lines about other people and none of it was original thought.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 12:02 GMT
#653
Fuck it.

##unvote
##vote boxerfred
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 14:08 GMT
#656
On September 30 2019 21:10 Branch.AUT wrote:
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On September 30 2019 18:37 Holyflare wrote:
I did read your case cop and I'll get back to it at some point

So what you think of shockey, who I somehow "piggyback off all game" and scumread as a likeable lynch at the same time?


I thought he was really townie from reading through but today he's not at all. I skimmed through cop's case last night but don't really remember it and I feel like there were a few non-points. The donating his vote to someone else every single day seems important though.

I'll read him at some point I guess but boxerfred promised activity and didn't deliver and we have what, 3 hours to deadline?

Holyflare
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September 30 2019 14:09 GMT
#657
And I don't know what you're talking about "somehow piggybacked" if you read my first big catch up post you'd see exactly what I'm talking about. Did you not read it but say you did?
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 14:11 GMT
#658
Just so you know, it's against the rules to talk about your coach in the thread so you're basically confirmed town. Don't waste a vote on me, especially if you like the content I've produced? I don't know who I'm supposed to be yelling at to lynch because I've been pretty vocal about lynching gb until his return.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 14:20 GMT
#660
On September 30 2019 23:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
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On September 30 2019 23:09 Holyflare wrote:
And I don't know what you're talking about "somehow piggybacked" if you read my first big catch up post you'd see exactly what I'm talking about. Did you not read it but say you did?

I didn't get it either. It's you that came up with it.


ShoCkeyy came up with something on copcake and you essentially said the same post as him when you came back later to apply pressure on copcake. It was good pressure but not original thought.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 14:23 GMT
#663
On September 30 2019 23:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On September 30 2019 23:11 Holyflare wrote:
Just so you know, it's against the rules to talk about your coach in the thread so you're basically confirmed town. Don't waste a vote on me, especially if you like the content I've produced? I don't know who I'm supposed to be yelling at to lynch because I've been pretty vocal about lynching gb until his return.


How is he confirmed town, we all knew he was getting a coach, he asked for it lol. I would expect mafia to be able to get a coach too, why just town?


Why would a mafia coach yell at him for hunting for mafia????
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 14:59 GMT
#679
On September 30 2019 23:33 Branch.AUT wrote:
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On September 30 2019 21:02 Holyflare wrote:
Fuck it.

##unvote
##vote boxerfred

I dislike this for two reasons:
HFs reputation is that he doesnt like lynching afk.
Boxerfred Afks basically every game, and its no indication of his alignment.

This is a pure coinflip.


I've policy lynched people for afking in the past like 3 games.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 15:01 GMT
#681
And I don't think it's a coinflip at all. I've poed quite a lot and it makes sense for him to be mafia.

They tried to shoot me and it failed so of course they're gonna be demotivated. He's promised reads and hasn't delivered, literally just posting to avoid modkill.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 16:00 GMT
#694
How do we know mafia are active?
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 16:22 GMT
#700
On October 01 2019 01:16 CopCake wrote:
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On October 01 2019 01:00 Holyflare wrote:
How do we know mafia are active?


Rules say that mafia MUST send a kill.


It just says they can't no kill. Sure it would rng or something if they didn't submit it.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 16:29 GMT
#705
On October 01 2019 01:24 FreezingFoot wrote:
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On October 01 2019 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 01:16 CopCake wrote:
On October 01 2019 01:00 Holyflare wrote:
How do we know mafia are active?


Rules say that mafia MUST send a kill.


It just says they can't no kill. Sure it would rng or something if they didn't submit it.


And it RNG'd in a shot AT YOU and YOU were saved?

Are you kidding me?


I didn't say it's what happened, nor did I say it's likely to happen. I'm saying you can't rule it out based on the wording of the text.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 16:30 GMT
#707
On October 01 2019 01:28 FreezingFoot wrote:
BTW, HF, why is Vivax town?


Where on earth have I called him town?
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 16:37 GMT
#710
I don't think vivax is anything tbh. He needs to post more but the thread is too small to really say one way or the other. His content is just things that seem generally ok to say as observations and he's done the typical don't trust hf crap he usually does as town so maybe I do err on the side of town reading him.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 16:46 GMT
#714
On October 01 2019 01:44 FreezingFoot wrote:
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On October 01 2019 01:29 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 01:24 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 01:16 CopCake wrote:
On October 01 2019 01:00 Holyflare wrote:
How do we know mafia are active?


Rules say that mafia MUST send a kill.


It just says they can't no kill. Sure it would rng or something if they didn't submit it.


And it RNG'd in a shot AT YOU and YOU were saved?

Are you kidding me?


I didn't say it's what happened, nor did I say it's likely to happen. I'm saying you can't rule it out based on the wording of the text.


I think if the possibility is that small, this should never be brought up and we should consider the mafia team is active. Am I wrong?


Yes
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 16:48 GMT
#715
This is pointless shit gb obviously my position is self resolving so talk about mafia instead?

Why did you lie about me town reading vivax?
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:00 GMT
#717
On October 01 2019 01:45 FreezingFoot wrote:
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On October 01 2019 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think vivax is anything tbh. He needs to post more but the thread is too small to really say one way or the other. His content is just things that seem generally ok to say as observations and he's done the typical don't trust hf crap he usually does as town so maybe I do err on the side of town reading him.


I think he is most likely mafia because he is not actively playing the game. He just drops stuff in thread and gets out. It doesn't look like he is trying to scumhunt as he usually did as town 2 years ago.

He is voting boxerfred.


Vivax has been a proper shitter for a long time now and does exactly the same things.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:01 GMT
#719
On October 01 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
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On October 01 2019 01:48 Holyflare wrote:
This is pointless shit gb obviously my position is self resolving so talk about mafia instead?

Why did you lie about me town reading vivax?


I didn't lie, I asked you why he was town.

In a sense that you are voting with him, so you don't scumread him, do you?


Right, so a loaded question when you could easily just search for vivax in my filter. Which means you don't actually care about my alignment either.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:26 GMT
#730
On October 01 2019 02:02 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 02:01 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 01:48 Holyflare wrote:
This is pointless shit gb obviously my position is self resolving so talk about mafia instead?

Why did you lie about me town reading vivax?


I didn't lie, I asked you why he was town.

In a sense that you are voting with him, so you don't scumread him, do you?


Right, so a loaded question when you could easily just search for vivax in my filter. Which means you don't actually care about my alignment either.


I care so much that I am bothering asking you this. If you don't think he is town, you should never vote with him. Am I wrong?


Absolutely if I think the other person is independently scummy. I can always be wrong on one of them and there are so many variables. This is such a pointless mechanical question that you obviously know the answer to. What ARE you doing gb?
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:33 GMT
#736
On October 01 2019 02:19 FreezingFoot wrote:
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On October 01 2019 02:14 Tubesock wrote:
On October 01 2019 01:46 FreezingFoot wrote:
NK is important actually because Holyflare claims he was saved and we have no idea how he knows that.


Then you should pressure him “how” he knows as that would be good information. But going on and on about if the mafia team is afk or not doesn’t seem to be going anywhere and isn’t something we can learn until postgame. Maybe I missed it, but I haven’t seen you pressure or ask him how he knows, so I don’t believe you think it’s that important.

HF could be vet, could be hunting for reactions, could be blue hunting or just being grandiose and trolly.


He's definitely not vet because if he was he would've claimed already.

But we will now as the game progresses.

And yes, I asked him when he said he was saved. I think that is enough, it will only be detrimental to town to keep talking about roles.

And you're right, talking about afk will not help town. Let's move on.

Is Shockey mafia?


This is the most stupid thing I think I've seen in the entire thread.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:35 GMT
#737
On September 29 2019 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
TSVGBANKHBGBILTBSOM


This is my breadcrumb that I will never back down from or edit so you can already see I'm locked into something.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:38 GMT
#738
I'm assuming 2 mafia so 6v2 because I took a bullet

If boxer is town and modkilled and we lynch another town then tomorrow is 3v2 lylo
if boxer is town and we lynch him but no other person then it's 4v2 mylo tomorrow (if we don't get another block) in which case we no lynch AND get another day and more information

if boxer is mafia, which is likely from his posts then it's 5v1 tomorrow and then the other mafia should be clear (hint: you for repeatedly trying to derail the wagon while not even scum reading shockey)
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:41 GMT
#739
I do not think a mafia branch goes for holyflare who he has seen is aggressive and pushes what he wants and OMGUS all the time over literally anyone else in the game. Especially when his reasons don't make any sense.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:44 GMT
#742
I have the words vote glowingbear typed out.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:45 GMT
#743
Anyone not voting the soon to be modkilled boxerfred is ACTIVELY denying town either a mafia kill or another full fucking cycle of information.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:46 GMT
#744
On September 30 2019 04:10 boxerfred wrote:
Sorry folks. My daughter caught the flu and I simply forgot about mafia over weekend with an ill kid.

Will catch up tomorrow earliest, I'm a bit curious why I was not modkilled but really happy about it =).


...
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:47 GMT
#745
I'm not gonna lie, I don't have good feelings about either of vivax or tube but they're doing the correct play and that means something about their alignment. Maybe I will read either of them, probably not, but that shouldn't stop you voting for bf.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:49 GMT
#747
If bf returns with like 1 minute to go and votes shockeyy and none of you stopped it being able to happen I will be extremely annoyed.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:52 GMT
#749
I very much think boxer has a higher chance of being mafia. Shockey's d2 has been bad but I think I'm going to stick with my d1 gut read on him for now.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:55 GMT
#751
I can't really weigh in on your case because I thought the exact same things as shockeyy did about you d1 and that's why I made a case on you. So, just because he ignores GB who you say is doing the same thing (but not really because the points and reasoning are different) doesn't mean he should be called mafia for it.

The good parts are the only sheeping people.

Either way, regardless of if boxer is mafia or not, voting him gives us more cycles whether he is mafia or town and it is absolutely mechanically the correct play.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 17:59 GMT
#752
On October 01 2019 02:55 Branch.AUT wrote:
Its either 2/9 or 3/9 depending on how the game is set up. Neither I would consider as "pretty high". Id rather lynch with copcakes conviction than coinflip here.


Your math is wrong and that's not how mafia works either.

It's not going to be 6v3 because the game ends after basically 2 cycles and that's bad.

We have 8 players left and 2 of them are mafia that's a chance that you RANDOMLY hit mafia but this game isn't random, you can make pretty damn educated guesses about people's alignments.

Exluding cop/yourself and me which I am quite confident are town then that's 5 players left and 2 of them are mafia, 2/5 sounds a hell of a lot better than 2/9.

Then you weigh up their play. Boxer has promised activity, skirted activity requirements and has not returned to say anything. His chances of mafia go up quite a lot comparatively. Then when you factor in we get ANOTHER CYCLE if shockeyy is town and boxer is modkilled by killing boxer it's absolutely a no brainer.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:00 GMT
#754
I fully acknowledge that GB just fucked off.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:05 GMT
#760
On October 01 2019 03:00 FreezingFoot wrote:
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On October 01 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:55 Branch.AUT wrote:
Its either 2/9 or 3/9 depending on how the game is set up. Neither I would consider as "pretty high". Id rather lynch with copcakes conviction than coinflip here.


Your math is wrong and that's not how mafia works either.

It's not going to be 6v3 because the game ends after basically 2 cycles and that's bad.

We have 8 players left and 2 of them are mafia that's a chance that you RANDOMLY hit mafia but this game isn't random, you can make pretty damn educated guesses about people's alignments.

Exluding cop/yourself and me which I am quite confident are town then that's 5 players left and 2 of them are mafia, 2/5 sounds a hell of a lot better than 2/9.

Then you weigh up their play. Boxer has promised activity, skirted activity requirements and has not returned to say anything. His chances of mafia go up quite a lot comparatively. Then when you factor in we get ANOTHER CYCLE if shockeyy is town and boxer is modkilled by killing boxer it's absolutely a no brainer.


FINE
IT'S BOXERFRED


I don't know what I think of this timing but I don't think if you were mafia you willingly extend the game another cycle unless you're specifically mafia and shockey is mafia and you were bussing shockey.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:07 GMT
#762
On October 01 2019 03:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:00 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:55 Branch.AUT wrote:
Its either 2/9 or 3/9 depending on how the game is set up. Neither I would consider as "pretty high". Id rather lynch with copcakes conviction than coinflip here.


Your math is wrong and that's not how mafia works either.

It's not going to be 6v3 because the game ends after basically 2 cycles and that's bad.

We have 8 players left and 2 of them are mafia that's a chance that you RANDOMLY hit mafia but this game isn't random, you can make pretty damn educated guesses about people's alignments.

Exluding cop/yourself and me which I am quite confident are town then that's 5 players left and 2 of them are mafia, 2/5 sounds a hell of a lot better than 2/9.

Then you weigh up their play. Boxer has promised activity, skirted activity requirements and has not returned to say anything. His chances of mafia go up quite a lot comparatively. Then when you factor in we get ANOTHER CYCLE if shockeyy is town and boxer is modkilled by killing boxer it's absolutely a no brainer.


FINE
IT'S BOXERFRED


I don't know what I think of this timing but I don't think if you were mafia you willingly extend the game another cycle unless you're specifically mafia and shockey is mafia and you were bussing shockey.


OH MY GOD HOLYFLARE WHY WOULD I DO THAT IF SHOCKEY WAS MAFIA? I WOULD NEVER VOTE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


Copcake literally hates your guts because you bussed her.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:08 GMT
#765
This looks pretty fake GB. Why did you vote boxerfred if not for the mechanical play?
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:10 GMT
#768
On October 01 2019 03:10 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
This looks pretty fake GB. Why did you vote boxerfred if not for the mechanical play?


Because I actually thought you were right about the game maths and I refuse to lose a game to lurker mafia as I always refused in my whole playtime.


So then why the fuck are you mad that the game maths worked out then?
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:12 GMT
#770
On October 01 2019 03:08 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:00 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:55 Branch.AUT wrote:
Its either 2/9 or 3/9 depending on how the game is set up. Neither I would consider as "pretty high". Id rather lynch with copcakes conviction than coinflip here.


Your math is wrong and that's not how mafia works either.

It's not going to be 6v3 because the game ends after basically 2 cycles and that's bad.

We have 8 players left and 2 of them are mafia that's a chance that you RANDOMLY hit mafia but this game isn't random, you can make pretty damn educated guesses about people's alignments.

Exluding cop/yourself and me which I am quite confident are town then that's 5 players left and 2 of them are mafia, 2/5 sounds a hell of a lot better than 2/9.

Then you weigh up their play. Boxer has promised activity, skirted activity requirements and has not returned to say anything. His chances of mafia go up quite a lot comparatively. Then when you factor in we get ANOTHER CYCLE if shockeyy is town and boxer is modkilled by killing boxer it's absolutely a no brainer.


FINE
IT'S BOXERFRED


I don't know what I think of this timing but I don't think if you were mafia you willingly extend the game another cycle unless you're specifically mafia and shockey is mafia and you were bussing shockey.


OH MY GOD HOLYFLARE WHY WOULD I DO THAT IF SHOCKEY WAS MAFIA? I WOULD NEVER VOTE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


Copcake literally hates your guts because you bussed her.


HF
Why would I bus Shockey, just to switch to boxerfred, so you can make that associative read? Why wouldn't I keep pushing a townie, if that was the case? With so many lurkers, why would I bus my teammate? SPECIALLY in a game of 2v6, if that's the case

There's no logic. Do you want me to be scum or you want to fucking WIN THE GAME?


Because the only town read person in the game is pushing shockey and people are sheeping her and you've thrown out petty scum reads on vivax and tube and other people and done nothing with them. Your reason to join shockey was just sheeping cake at the last few hours instead of voting the other wagon boxerfred.

Don't act like you've been bussing shockey all 48 hour cycle.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:14 GMT
#773
On October 01 2019 03:12 Branch.AUT wrote:
Im out of there for the night. Severely disappointed atm.

The only positivite thing to take away from this, is that I learend that GB doesnt read shit and Holyflare likes to math based on assumptions.


Mind explaining what is wrong with my mathematics?
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:14 GMT
#774
On October 01 2019 03:12 Vivax wrote:
Im back home and what the fuck is this last page XD


Do something or die
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:20 GMT
#776
On October 01 2019 03:19 Vivax wrote:
So we just murdered a guy for taking care of his kid.

And people wonder why nobody plays on TL mafia any more. It's a satanistic mess.


....................




On October 01 2019 02:06 Jockmcplop wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

ShoCkeyy (3): CopCake, Branch.AUT, FreezingFoot
Boxerfred (3): Tubesock, Vivax, Holyflare, Tubesock
Tubesock (1): Vivax, ShoCkeyy
FreezingFoot (0): Holyflare, Tubesock
Branch.AUT (0): Holyflare, FreezingFoot
Holyflare (0): Branch.AUT
CopCake (0): Vivax

Not Voting (1): Boxerfred

ShoCkeyy is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Monday, Sep 30 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in





You're mafia.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:24 GMT
#781
On October 01 2019 03:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:08 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:00 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:55 Branch.AUT wrote:
Its either 2/9 or 3/9 depending on how the game is set up. Neither I would consider as "pretty high". Id rather lynch with copcakes conviction than coinflip here.


Your math is wrong and that's not how mafia works either.

It's not going to be 6v3 because the game ends after basically 2 cycles and that's bad.

We have 8 players left and 2 of them are mafia that's a chance that you RANDOMLY hit mafia but this game isn't random, you can make pretty damn educated guesses about people's alignments.

Exluding cop/yourself and me which I am quite confident are town then that's 5 players left and 2 of them are mafia, 2/5 sounds a hell of a lot better than 2/9.

Then you weigh up their play. Boxer has promised activity, skirted activity requirements and has not returned to say anything. His chances of mafia go up quite a lot comparatively. Then when you factor in we get ANOTHER CYCLE if shockeyy is town and boxer is modkilled by killing boxer it's absolutely a no brainer.


FINE
IT'S BOXERFRED


I don't know what I think of this timing but I don't think if you were mafia you willingly extend the game another cycle unless you're specifically mafia and shockey is mafia and you were bussing shockey.


OH MY GOD HOLYFLARE WHY WOULD I DO THAT IF SHOCKEY WAS MAFIA? I WOULD NEVER VOTE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


Copcake literally hates your guts because you bussed her.


HF
Why would I bus Shockey, just to switch to boxerfred, so you can make that associative read? Why wouldn't I keep pushing a townie, if that was the case? With so many lurkers, why would I bus my teammate? SPECIALLY in a game of 2v6, if that's the case

There's no logic. Do you want me to be scum or you want to fucking WIN THE GAME?


Because the only town read person in the game is pushing shockey and people are sheeping her and you've thrown out petty scum reads on vivax and tube and other people and done nothing with them. Your reason to join shockey was just sheeping cake at the last few hours instead of voting the other wagon boxerfred.

Don't act like you've been bussing shockey all 48 hour cycle.


You realise I did hammer shockey, right? If I didn't change my vote, he would have been killed. I said that I think shockey is shady and that his double standards felt weird, and I also think that he does not bring anything original and is open to lynch anyone.

Why wouldn't I vote boxerfred right away if I was scum with Shockey?

Wtf HF


I could have sworn you just jumped on when it didn't mean anything but checking the votes you are correct, you did "hammer" shockey. But it's not a hammer if you don't stay on it so it doesn't even mean anything.

I don't even know why we're talking about this. I already said I don't think you'd willingly extend the cycle unless you're mafia with shockeyy (and even then probably not) and you flipped out because of it.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:25 GMT
#782
I am hard claiming blue.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:30 GMT
#786
It's probably tube shockey since tube keeps following me around wherever I vote that's not shockey.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:36 GMT
#793
On October 01 2019 03:35 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:08 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:00 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

Your math is wrong and that's not how mafia works either.

It's not going to be 6v3 because the game ends after basically 2 cycles and that's bad.

We have 8 players left and 2 of them are mafia that's a chance that you RANDOMLY hit mafia but this game isn't random, you can make pretty damn educated guesses about people's alignments.

Exluding cop/yourself and me which I am quite confident are town then that's 5 players left and 2 of them are mafia, 2/5 sounds a hell of a lot better than 2/9.

Then you weigh up their play. Boxer has promised activity, skirted activity requirements and has not returned to say anything. His chances of mafia go up quite a lot comparatively. Then when you factor in we get ANOTHER CYCLE if shockeyy is town and boxer is modkilled by killing boxer it's absolutely a no brainer.


FINE
IT'S BOXERFRED


I don't know what I think of this timing but I don't think if you were mafia you willingly extend the game another cycle unless you're specifically mafia and shockey is mafia and you were bussing shockey.


OH MY GOD HOLYFLARE WHY WOULD I DO THAT IF SHOCKEY WAS MAFIA? I WOULD NEVER VOTE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


Copcake literally hates your guts because you bussed her.


HF
Why would I bus Shockey, just to switch to boxerfred, so you can make that associative read? Why wouldn't I keep pushing a townie, if that was the case? With so many lurkers, why would I bus my teammate? SPECIALLY in a game of 2v6, if that's the case

There's no logic. Do you want me to be scum or you want to fucking WIN THE GAME?


Because the only town read person in the game is pushing shockey and people are sheeping her and you've thrown out petty scum reads on vivax and tube and other people and done nothing with them. Your reason to join shockey was just sheeping cake at the last few hours instead of voting the other wagon boxerfred.

Don't act like you've been bussing shockey all 48 hour cycle.


You realise I did hammer shockey, right? If I didn't change my vote, he would have been killed. I said that I think shockey is shady and that his double standards felt weird, and I also think that he does not bring anything original and is open to lynch anyone.

Why wouldn't I vote boxerfred right away if I was scum with Shockey?

Wtf HF


I could have sworn you just jumped on when it didn't mean anything but checking the votes you are correct, you did "hammer" shockey. But it's not a hammer if you don't stay on it so it doesn't even mean anything.

I don't even know why we're talking about this. I already said I don't think you'd willingly extend the cycle unless you're mafia with shockeyy (and even then probably not) and you flipped out because of it.


Because I'm positive Shockey is mafia and i'll be very annoyed if people make this associative read.

Anyway, HF, I won't let paranoia get me. I think you're town. I think CopCake is town. We should work together. But you need to trust me, too, and I have no idea how can I convince you I'm town, since it's pretty obvious to me.


Telling people to not save the blue is probably not the best way to go about getting on my good side.
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September 30 2019 18:36 GMT
#794
On October 01 2019 03:34 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 03:30 Holyflare wrote:
It's probably tube shockey since tube keeps following me around wherever I vote that's not shockey.


Really tho?

You now think Shockey is mafia?


Oh wait :D

I literally just forgot about vivax lol.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:36 GMT
#795
That's never a good thing
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September 30 2019 18:37 GMT
#796
well tube/vivax/shockey isn't a bad poe to have I guess

gut says tube/vivax
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September 30 2019 18:41 GMT
#800
On October 01 2019 03:40 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
well tube/vivax/shockey isn't a bad poe to have I guess

gut says tube/vivax


Really?

When Shockey tried to AtE me?


when did he do that?
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September 30 2019 18:42 GMT
#803
On October 01 2019 03:41 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 03:36 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:35 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:08 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

I don't know what I think of this timing but I don't think if you were mafia you willingly extend the game another cycle unless you're specifically mafia and shockey is mafia and you were bussing shockey.


OH MY GOD HOLYFLARE WHY WOULD I DO THAT IF SHOCKEY WAS MAFIA? I WOULD NEVER VOTE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


Copcake literally hates your guts because you bussed her.


HF
Why would I bus Shockey, just to switch to boxerfred, so you can make that associative read? Why wouldn't I keep pushing a townie, if that was the case? With so many lurkers, why would I bus my teammate? SPECIALLY in a game of 2v6, if that's the case

There's no logic. Do you want me to be scum or you want to fucking WIN THE GAME?


Because the only town read person in the game is pushing shockey and people are sheeping her and you've thrown out petty scum reads on vivax and tube and other people and done nothing with them. Your reason to join shockey was just sheeping cake at the last few hours instead of voting the other wagon boxerfred.

Don't act like you've been bussing shockey all 48 hour cycle.


You realise I did hammer shockey, right? If I didn't change my vote, he would have been killed. I said that I think shockey is shady and that his double standards felt weird, and I also think that he does not bring anything original and is open to lynch anyone.

Why wouldn't I vote boxerfred right away if I was scum with Shockey?

Wtf HF


I could have sworn you just jumped on when it didn't mean anything but checking the votes you are correct, you did "hammer" shockey. But it's not a hammer if you don't stay on it so it doesn't even mean anything.

I don't even know why we're talking about this. I already said I don't think you'd willingly extend the cycle unless you're mafia with shockeyy (and even then probably not) and you flipped out because of it.


Because I'm positive Shockey is mafia and i'll be very annoyed if people make this associative read.

Anyway, HF, I won't let paranoia get me. I think you're town. I think CopCake is town. We should work together. But you need to trust me, too, and I have no idea how can I convince you I'm town, since it's pretty obvious to me.


Telling people to not save the blue is probably not the best way to go about getting on my good side.


And what if I dance half-naked in a bathtub full of rubber ducks? Would I get on your good side?


I can't say that does it for me, no :D
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:42 GMT
#804
On October 01 2019 03:41 Vivax wrote:
Like no shit as mafia you go after the guy not getting modkilled first after a failed first night.


You just... berated people for going after the modkilled guy too lol.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 18:49 GMT
#808
I wouldn't say these are really appealing to emotion.
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 21:26 GMT
#827
We have 2 roles at least
Holyflare
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September 30 2019 23:42 GMT
#830
On October 01 2019 05:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Even if you switched it to me, that’s killing off another townie. The last few pages have been a wild ride.


I mean... any insight would be absolutely great?
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 01:20 GMT
#834
On October 01 2019 06:26 Holyflare wrote:
We have 2 roles at least


just shut up about it
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 02:41 GMT
#836
It's not all vt and mafia can't no kill so stop speculating. There are definitely 2 blues.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 02:45 GMT
#837
I may have made a miscalculation. Still 2 blues but I could have made a big mistake :D
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 17:39 GMT
#882
Gb why you pushing such a ridiculous agenda?
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 17:40 GMT
#883
Of course shockeyy can think you're mafia if he's town, you've lined him up for tomorrow already.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 17:46 GMT
#886
On October 02 2019 02:43 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
Of course shockeyy can think you're mafia if he's town, you've lined him up for tomorrow already.


Are you kidding me HF?

If I kept my vote on him, 2 townies would've died. Mafia would keep his vote 100% of the times here.


Oh boy oh boy, it's the slip of the century.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 17:46 GMT
#887
I will never vote anyone other than gb tomorrow.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 17:52 GMT
#888
Your night posts have read fake as fuck. You switched to bf to give us another cycle but then you whined when the plan can actually come to fruition and you're going to lynch shockeyy tomorrow no matter what when the whole point of lynching bf was to no lynch tomorrow to give us another cycle.

You're just using fake anger to end the game and hopefully people will see it. Unfortunately I think I'll die tonight because you already know I can probably be killed.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 17:55 GMT
#893
On October 02 2019 02:53 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 02:46 Holyflare wrote:
On October 02 2019 02:43 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
Of course shockeyy can think you're mafia if he's town, you've lined him up for tomorrow already.


Are you kidding me HF?

If I kept my vote on him, 2 townies would've died. Mafia would keep his vote 100% of the times here.


Oh boy oh boy, it's the slip of the century.


I'M SAYING UNDER HIS PERSPECTIVE
FFS


You keep claiming hammer credit for a lynch you didn't end up hammering. It will not fly. If he is town, from his perspective he saw hf give him another chance tomorrow, make a plan THAT YOU FOLLOWED to push the game into mylo by no lynching so we could get another cycle after instead of lylo and then he sees you going directly against the plan you voted in favour for to push his town lynch.

Then you try and use that to scum read him LOL.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 17:57 GMT
#894
On October 02 2019 02:54 Tubesock wrote:
Since were flirting with conspiracies and tinfoil, I’d love it if mafia!HF and his partner were like “hey, let’s RB ourselves so there’s no night kill, you “breadcrumb” and say there’s probably two blues so you don’t need to be in a counterclaim fight”


I can say something that will specifically prove I'm blue.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:06 GMT
#899
##vote tubesock

:D

what a fucking legend
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:06 GMT
#900
I may have a surprise for you though
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:09 GMT
#904
There can only be one cc tube could do I think, maybe.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:14 GMT
#907
On October 02 2019 03:12 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 02:59 Branch.AUT wrote:
Found your Breadcrumbs.

On September 29 2019 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
TSVGBANKHBGBILTBSOM


Reads:
Tubesock visited GB and no kill happened because GB is likeley to be save over me.

I know this because I was also there N1 and I took GB to my jail. I am the Jailkeeper. I am posting this in case I get killed.

With this information, Tubesock is 100%confirmed scum. Amazing play by HF, who is obviously town. If I die, or if I dont, Lynch Tubesock ALL THE FUCKING WAY. We have two blues, confirming this information.

In this night two, I have jailed Holyflare to give him the opportunity to play off this claim tomorrow.

GB town,
HF town,
Shockey town,
Tubesock scum


OMG HF YOU KNEW TS VISITED ME AND YOU STILL CALLED ME MAFIA OMFG


You could have still been mafia if tube was jk? Ironically if tube ccs jk branch could be mafia trying to push for end game today.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:14 GMT
#908
but he didn't and he left so I will take that as a seal
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:15 GMT
#909
There is a really really really fucking slim chance that tube is specifically a wandering miller or whatever and visited gb still :D

I would be fine losing to that
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:19 GMT
#911
Yes, obviously.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:20 GMT
#912
Why did you try and shoot me tonight gb? :D
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:21 GMT
#915
On October 02 2019 03:20 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 03:19 Holyflare wrote:
Yes, obviously.


Then there is no way you could believe in a cc by tubesock


I claimed blue and I'm towny as fuck, I can believe what I want.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:23 GMT
#916
What if I told you ts may NOT be mafia!

But likely is as well as someone else.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:24 GMT
#919
I'm still wondering why Branch knew my crumb contents and still tried to vote me off
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:24 GMT
#921
So mafia didn't think I was blue you dimwit.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:30 GMT
#924
Let's just say I think we might have found all the mafia in this one cycle
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 18:54 GMT
#930
On October 02 2019 03:36 FreezingFoot wrote:
I have an opinion regarding HF but I rather see how this develops.

And I gotta work.


How about you just come out and say it before you go back to your mafia chat and devise a plan ?
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 19:28 GMT
#939
On October 02 2019 04:23 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 03:54 Holyflare wrote:
On October 02 2019 03:36 FreezingFoot wrote:
I have an opinion regarding HF but I rather see how this develops.

And I gotta work.


How about you just come out and say it before you go back to your mafia chat and devise a plan ?


How about you explain that you thought you were saved but knew you weren't roleblocked? That you knew someone visited me and that this someone probably saved me or tried to kill me, so it's impossible you were saved n1?

Tell me, did you think Tubesock was Jailkeeper?


On October 02 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
So mafia didn't think I was blue you dimwit.


Imagine calling out the guy that found mafia and it being literally confirmed by a guy claiming jker. Either he's mafia and confirming me town or town and confirming me town.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 19:29 GMT
#941
Like fuck me there wasn't even a kill tonight so mafia literally tried to shoot me. Are you fucking retarded?
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 19:33 GMT
#945
No, he didn't say that and even if he did I received no result.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 19:33 GMT
#946
Like holy shit do I want to lynch you so bad gb. You're trying to shovel so much shit and discredit everything.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 19:45 GMT
#950
What do you mean the rest?
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 19:50 GMT
#955
It wasn't entirely correct but close enough.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 19:53 GMT
#957
Please claim jk I'm waiting for it :D
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 19:57 GMT
#959
Boringgggg
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 20:01 GMT
#963
On October 02 2019 04:57 CopCake wrote:
HF did you target GB because he was scummy?


I didn't target gb.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 20:01 GMT
#964
On October 02 2019 05:01 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
I may have a surprise for you though


What’s the surprise?


Just gonna have to wait and find out.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 20:05 GMT
#966
I ain't confirming NUFFIN GB.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 20:55 GMT
#971
Just know I'm town and would never lead you astray. What are you learning from me confirming ts visits or not wtf?
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 20:56 GMT
#973
Just put your vote on him and scum hunt. Something that is increasingly absent from him just saying he's vt and leaving again.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:03 GMT
#976
On October 02 2019 05:55 CopCake wrote:
I have a theory but it is too tinfoil


What's the fucking point of tinfoiling jesus christ. There are no blue counter claims to a jk or tracker. There was no night kill. Mafia can't not night kill. Unless they can specifically roleblock themselves (which would be fucking stupid) then I was saved. I didn't get a result so I was roleblocked which means branch is definitely a jker since there are no ccs.

The only tinfoil you can possibly have is that mafia rbd themselves day 1 and day 2 but it's absolutely not possible because I got no result day 2 so they can't be rbing themselves.

Then your tinfoil needs to go a level deeper that for absolutely no reason mafia is specifically me and branch together and we both claimed for absolutely no reason to gain nothing.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:04 GMT
#977
On October 02 2019 05:57 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 05:56 Holyflare wrote:
Just put your vote on him and scum hunt. Something that is increasingly absent from him just saying he's vt and leaving again.


You know why I won't do that?

Because if you aren't tracker then Tubesock isn't mafia.


IF I AM NOT TRACKER WHY THE FUCK DO I LEAVE A BREADCRUMB THAT HAS BOTH YOUR NAMES IN IT AND THE JK CONFIRMS IT'S EVEN CORRECT FUCK ME. FUCKING HELL GB.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:06 GMT
#978
The only possible explanation I have for your complete fucking ignorance is that tubesock is a wandering vt, accidentally wandered to you at the same time as the jk protected you and you know he's not mafia so you're doing everything you can to look like you're weighing up some artificial bull shit.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:07 GMT
#980
On October 02 2019 06:06 CopCake wrote:
Why did you target TS?


I'm not talking about this anymore. Play the game as if I never checked anybody.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:10 GMT
#982
We kill tubesock. Me being saved and the fact we lynched bf means we have a free lynch today. You will see he is mafia or a wandering towny. If he is town GB is one million % mafia.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:11 GMT
#984
I will never fully confirm anything. Deal with it. You either believe I'm tracker or you don't. Reactions tell me everything and yours is the worst.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:12 GMT
#987
On October 02 2019 06:12 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 06:10 Holyflare wrote:
We kill tubesock. Me being saved and the fact we lynched bf means we have a free lynch today. You will see he is mafia or a wandering towny. If he is town GB is one million % mafia.


I give up trying to reason with you, I'll just play the game and lynch mafia, then.


Uh huh. I can't wait for deadline. I bet you're glad you voted bf now
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:14 GMT
#990
On October 02 2019 06:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 05:55 CopCake wrote:
I have a theory but it is too tinfoil


Why even say this for the past twenty pages and never post anything? It's shit like this that make people think you're mafia.

I also find it crazy that CopCake AND GB are now both attacking HF why?... Again, the narrative seems so similar as if they're both in a mafia QT.


I honestly can't believe it. There's a breadcrumb, a jker outing himself as having literally blocked a nk on me and confirming that my breadcrumb was legit and ts doing nothing in response and it's all "hmmmmmmm tinfoil!"
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:15 GMT
#992
On October 02 2019 06:14 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
I will never fully confirm anything. Deal with it. You either believe I'm tracker or you don't. Reactions tell me everything and yours is the worst.


LOL my reaction is the worst

So you knew all the way that someone visited me, didn't even think I could possibly be saved by jailkeeper, claim that you KNOW you were saved, and you think it's not fair to not trust you?

Actually, you know what?

##vote: Holyflare


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:16 GMT
#993
Hahahaha hahahaha
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:16 GMT
#994
Oh my fucking god this is gold
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:20 GMT
#996
What if tubesock rbd gb from delivering a kill :o
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:20 GMT
#997
Big brain plays
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:22 GMT
#1000
Can I just reiterate for the class that NO NIGHT KILL HAPPENED.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:23 GMT
#1001
On October 02 2019 06:22 CopCake wrote:
I am laughing so hard

But the real question is

Can HF be mafia?



I am like quadruple confirmed town lol
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:24 GMT
#1003
You should offensively jk tonight of ts is mafia branch.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:31 GMT
#1007
On October 02 2019 06:29 Branch.AUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
You should offensively jk tonight of ts is mafia branch.

Do I still get to JK if im NKed?


Unless they have a rber so we'll see? If they do they might rb you and kill me.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:32 GMT
#1008
On October 02 2019 06:29 CopCake wrote:
I buy Branch role

But I cant fully buy HF, not if he doesnt say why he picked TS over all the people.


That sounds very much like your problem then. Why would I not pick a lurker who's null and sitting on the sidelines?
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:34 GMT
#1009
I feel like I'm on another planet where all semblance of intelligence ceased to exist.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:38 GMT
#1011
On October 02 2019 06:36 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 06:34 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like I'm on another planet where all semblance of intelligence ceased to exist.


Thank god you're here, enlightened sir
Could you please, translate this code?

+ Show Spoiler +
HFIDOM


Waiting for your help


Easy. Holyflare fucking irreversibly destroyed obvious mafia.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:42 GMT
#1013
Do you feel bad that you're mafia?

You still seem to be voting me but yet can't provide a single explanation as to how I'm mafia other than I should somehow know your alignment yesterday because one person visited you.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:46 GMT
#1014
Like god damn did I play this role impeccably.
Holyflare
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October 01 2019 21:56 GMT
#1016
On October 02 2019 06:47 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 06:42 Holyflare wrote:
Do you feel bad that you're mafia?

You still seem to be voting me but yet can't provide a single explanation as to how I'm mafia other than I should somehow know your alignment yesterday because one person visited you.


I'm not mafia. I don't think your actions in the game corresponds to your night actions and role, and I don't understand why you claimed you were saved and why you couldn't just come clean to the thread. This only confuses town. And I'm not sure what to think.


I didn't know if the person targeting you was jk or mafia. I think you did absolutely 0 things that warranted you being jk. I called you mafia the entire night before confirming as much. I don't think any reasonable mafia puts night actions on someone at the forefront of accusations or town reads and thus I wanted to check a lurker.

If you read my n1 catch up post the first thing I do is call tubesock confirmed mafia because his posts were utter tripe.

In my reads list I say I'm hedging on him because he started calling out cop but his content was still almost 0 and he was a good target that really nobody had mentioned the entire n1 compared to everyone else.

No kill happened and someone visited you. You were either carrying kp (something I thought was very likely in all honesty) or blocked kp (I didn't believe it). The first thing I do at the start of the day is breadcrumb almost exactly what branch called out. I have had tube in my poe the entirety of the game.

I said I was saved because either I was actually saved and mafia already knows that and maybe I can make them slip OR mafia knows gb was saved/blocked and that there's no way I'm a role because I have no idea what the night actions were.

I hard claimed blue tonight to draw the kp and make it obvious what my breadcrumb meant after I flipped. I didn't really want to claim today but branch called it out and made the decision a lot easier.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 21:58 GMT
#1017
It doesn't matter what the fuck my actions in the thread stipulate towards my role either. That just reinforces how excellently I played it.

You can quite literally flip tubesock and reveal my role. It's the easiest fucking self resolving thing this game and you're still incapable of following through with basic logic. That's what blows my mind and makes me think you're actually mafia still.

I'm just confirming whether mafia can block their own nk.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:00 GMT
#1018
There's also quite literally a wandering miller in this game. Nothing I check reliably makes anyone anything. The only way I can have any certainty now is because the jk confirmed who he saved.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:24 GMT
#1024
On October 02 2019 07:09 CopCake wrote:
The “odds” of GB being visited by a “town wanderer” is strange considering that he got visited by other two persons.

TBH I think he should be “confirmed town” at this point.

I was tinfoiling at first because it could be “he got blocked therefore mafia” but with three persons over his head is almost... impossible.

I have problems with the whole “omg I wont say why I target TS” etc. Because there could be a mafia cop that knows that TS is the warender.

Just saying.


This blows my mind lol. Please elaborate how I absorb kp as mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:27 GMT
#1025
GB is anything but confirmed town though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:32 GMT
#1029
On October 02 2019 07:28 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
On October 02 2019 07:09 CopCake wrote:
The “odds” of GB being visited by a “town wanderer” is strange considering that he got visited by other two persons.

TBH I think he should be “confirmed town” at this point.

I was tinfoiling at first because it could be “he got blocked therefore mafia” but with three persons over his head is almost... impossible.

I have problems with the whole “omg I wont say why I target TS” etc. Because there could be a mafia cop that knows that TS is the warender.

Just saying.


This blows my mind lol. Please elaborate how I absorb kp as mafia.


Kp?

Night kill?


??? yes?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:34 GMT
#1031
When the jk protected me???? What are you smoking??????????????????????????????????????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:37 GMT
#1033
On October 02 2019 07:36 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:27 Holyflare wrote:
GB is anything but confirmed town though.


Let me get this straight.
Tubesock, as mafia, roleblocked me, another mafia, who was caring a kp into you, in the hopes you could track me

Is that what you’re arguing?


what the actual fuck are you talking about
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:37 GMT
#1035
I seriously have to limit myself to 2% brain power interacting with every post of yours GB
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:39 GMT
#1038
On October 02 2019 07:38 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:37 Holyflare wrote:
On October 02 2019 07:36 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 07:27 Holyflare wrote:
GB is anything but confirmed town though.


Let me get this straight.
Tubesock, as mafia, roleblocked me, another mafia, who was caring a kp into you, in the hopes you could track me

Is that what you’re arguing?


what the actual fuck are you talking about


How can I not be confirmed town if Tubesock is indeed Mafia?


I don't know if tubesock is mafia, even if he is, yes, you could still be mafia.

If he is not, yes, you could still be mafia.

None of these scenarios confirm you as town like cop is making out.

I am checking whether mafia can rb themselves so we'll see if it's even a possibility.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:41 GMT
#1040
On October 02 2019 07:39 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:34 Holyflare wrote:
When the jk protected me???? What are you smoking??????????????????????????????????????


What if you were blocked?


Why would I be sending kp!?!?!?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:44 GMT
#1042
Like holy fuck how fucking awful do you think I am as mafia that I advocate for a lynch on boxerfred THAT ELONGATES THE CYCLE THE NEXT DAY and also hard claim blue at night massively increasing the chance of any protective role protecting me and making it even more doubly sure that the cycle lasts longer and then decide that I am going to send the KP?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:47 GMT
#1045
On October 02 2019 07:43 CopCake wrote:
3 people visited GB and there was no night kill

Do you think the town warender (who gets randomnized) and the Jail keeper targeted him in the same name?

And you?

Is that even possible?

There is a very very very very very small chance but still... is odd.



3 people did not visit GB, 2 people visited GB. I am confirming whether mafia can RB their own NKs so we can see if it is a possibility. You are assuming he is a wanderer but it could be a play also.

Nothing GB has been doing weighs up to anything a rational towny says.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 01 2019 22:49 GMT
#1047
On October 02 2019 07:45 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:44 Holyflare wrote:
Like holy fuck how fucking awful do you think I am as mafia that I advocate for a lynch on boxerfred THAT ELONGATES THE CYCLE THE NEXT DAY and also hard claim blue at night massively increasing the chance of any protective role protecting me and making it even more doubly sure that the cycle lasts longer and then decide that I am going to send the KP?


If shockey is mafia...


I guess this is the only possibility that makes sense really.

I would almost definitely vote for someone that isn't shockey or bf and get two town kills to save shockey instead though. Or bus him.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:51 GMT
#1049
On October 02 2019 07:48 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On October 02 2019 07:43 CopCake wrote:
3 people visited GB and there was no night kill

Do you think the town warender (who gets randomnized) and the Jail keeper targeted him in the same name?

And you?

Is that even possible?

There is a very very very very very small chance but still... is odd.



3 people did not visit GB, 2 people visited GB. I am confirming whether mafia can RB their own NKs so we can see if it is a possibility. You are assuming he is a wanderer but it could be a play also.

Nothing GB has been doing weighs up to anything a rational towny says.


Now you’re starting to annoy me.


Stop typing dumb shit that accuses the unCCd town tracker that absorbed a night kill and killed boxerfred to perpetuate another cycle then and maybe I'll rethink your alignment.

If I'm annoying when all I know is that someone visited you, imagine how fucking annoying you are to me when I'm basically confirmed town in about 5 different ways.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 01 2019 22:52 GMT
#1051
On October 02 2019 07:50 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On October 02 2019 07:43 CopCake wrote:
3 people visited GB and there was no night kill

Do you think the town warender (who gets randomnized) and the Jail keeper targeted him in the same name?

And you?

Is that even possible?

There is a very very very very very small chance but still... is odd.



3 people did not visit GB, 2 people visited GB. I am confirming whether mafia can RB their own NKs so we can see if it is a possibility. You are assuming he is a wanderer but it could be a play also.

Nothing GB has been doing weighs up to anything a rational towny says.


A possibility of what? Intentionally roleblocking their own kp? Do you realise how stupid this is?


IF IT'S STUPID THEN WHY ARE YOU CALLING ME MAFIA FOR IT LOL
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:54 GMT
#1054
THEN HUNT FOR MAFIA LOL

I HAVE NOT SEEN A SINGLE POST THIS ENTIRE CYCLE THAT SAYS "OH TS IS MAFIA WHO IS HIS PARTNER?"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 22:58 GMT
#1056
On October 02 2019 07:54 Tubesock wrote:
I’m back.

I think GB is lock town, HF is tracker but I have no idea why he wouldn’t outright claim it, and Branch is jk.

So that leaves Cop, Vivax and Shockeyy. I’m pretty confident Cop is town. If HF is mafia, that was a kick ass play.


I can't mechanically leave you alive, just for my own fucking sanity.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 23:03 GMT
#1059
On October 02 2019 07:55 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:54 Holyflare wrote:
THEN HUNT FOR MAFIA LOL

I HAVE NOT SEEN A SINGLE POST THIS ENTIRE CYCLE THAT SAYS "OH TS IS MAFIA WHO IS HIS PARTNER?"


I STILL THINK IT’S SHOCKEY AND VIVAX, IVE BEEN SAYING IT FOREEEEEEEEVER



You know, sometimes I have existential moments where I ask, "What does it all mean?" I question everything about humanity, how people can think the way they do, the root causes of events and tragedies and just generally ask myself, how can things transpire in the way they do? Why can people not look at things critically and resolve matters with civility? How can a collective group be presented with evidence that says one thing that has been reviewed multiple times by experts but then believe in something one person said one time?

Then I come to Team Liquid Mafia and read posts like this and I sit here in my chair at midnight just nodding, "Ah, this is how."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 23:10 GMT
#1063
On October 02 2019 08:07 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
On October 02 2019 07:55 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 07:54 Holyflare wrote:
THEN HUNT FOR MAFIA LOL

I HAVE NOT SEEN A SINGLE POST THIS ENTIRE CYCLE THAT SAYS "OH TS IS MAFIA WHO IS HIS PARTNER?"


I STILL THINK IT’S SHOCKEY AND VIVAX, IVE BEEN SAYING IT FOREEEEEEEEVER



You know, sometimes I have existential moments where I ask, "What does it all mean?" I question everything about humanity, how people can think the way they do, the root causes of events and tragedies and just generally ask myself, how can things transpire in the way they do? Why can people not look at things critically and resolve matters with civility? How can a collective group be presented with evidence that says one thing that has been reviewed multiple times by experts but then believe in something one person said one time?

Then I come to Team Liquid Mafia and read posts like this and I sit here in my chair at midnight just nodding, "Ah, this is how."


I always asked if someone could be such good contortionist to be able to put his head inside his ass, then I find out that there this British contortionist that can also use internet while doing it


This is the funniest thing you have ever said :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 23:11 GMT
#1066
Mafia can rb themselves, I refuse :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 23:15 GMT
#1069
No, it's a really long shot and I don't really believe it but there's always always a possibility.

What if mafia even has 2 rbers? A newbie game so probably not but still, I don't rule out anything anymore.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 01 2019 23:16 GMT
#1071
I don't like to mechanically rule anyone out over my ability to scum hunt really. I would have absolutely called GB town already if he didn't post the most mind numbing things that make literally no sense all the time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 00:08 GMT
#1085
lol dumb
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 02 2019 00:10 GMT
#1086
I am 100% a tracker, never back down. That much is legit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 00:14 GMT
#1088
I'll be frank with you, I do think GB is extremely likely town, he's just annoying. I didn't think, or at least wasn't sure at all yesterday because I didn't know what happened or who visited whom for what reason.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 00:49 GMT
#1095
On October 02 2019 09:40 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 09:14 Holyflare wrote:
I'll be frank with you, I do think GB is extremely likely town, he's just annoying. I didn't think, or at least wasn't sure at all yesterday because I didn't know what happened or who visited whom for what reason.


What do you mean you didn’t know who visited whom?


As in, I didn't know anyone's roles or motives for their target until branch claimed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 01:03 GMT
#1101
+ Show Spoiler [Thread right now] +
[image loading]
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 02 2019 01:06 GMT
#1103
rolecop/rber and a town wanderer makes some semblance of sense
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 01:06 GMT
#1104
I really don't think there's 3 mafia in a 9 player game though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 01:11 GMT
#1106
On October 02 2019 09:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 08:31 CopCake wrote:
On October 02 2019 04:25 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I also posted this in my profile section last night since ya know just in case HF died. And this is all entirely based on Cop being town.

Edited on Sept 30 19 8:12 PST
I think HolyFlare or CopCake might die here tonight just so GB can push a shockeyy train.


In your profile...?



Yea I’m my profile? TL members have profiles ya know?


Do you mean to say you posted this on n1?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 01:15 GMT
#1109
On October 02 2019 10:14 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 10:11 Holyflare wrote:
On October 02 2019 09:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 02 2019 08:31 CopCake wrote:
On October 02 2019 04:25 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I also posted this in my profile section last night since ya know just in case HF died. And this is all entirely based on Cop being town.

Edited on Sept 30 19 8:12 PST
I think HolyFlare or CopCake might die here tonight just so GB can push a shockeyy train.


In your profile...?



Yea I’m my profile? TL members have profiles ya know?


Do you mean to say you posted this on n1?


I posted it last night way before any night kills happened, it literally says Sept 30 lol...


But didn't you think copcake was mafia....?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 01:23 GMT
#1114
I guess because you can edit it when you want but it doesn't really bother me at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 01:38 GMT
#1121
If tube dies does vivax just concede? :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 02 2019 02:08 GMT
#1123
Would anyone like to play a game?

+ Show Spoiler [Play before playing!] +


+ Show Spoiler [Clue #1] +
TSVGBANKHBGBILTBSOM


+ Show Spoiler [Clue #2] +
It is nobler to declare oneself wrong than to insist on being right --especially when one is right.


The game progresses as you get closer to the answer!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 18:19 GMT
#1166
You simply need to find the key once you have solved my riddle. Who is up for the challenge?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 18:28 GMT
#1169
No I'm definitely tracker
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 18:38 GMT
#1174
On October 03 2019 03:33 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 03:19 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:13 Vivax wrote:
On October 03 2019 02:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I have a hard time figuring out how it came to this Shockey wagon when nearly the entire day has been mostly role talk.

Another thing I don't understand is how Branch is so sure that his targets got saved instead of being mafia carrying kills. That puts us at a GB/HF impasse. This is what I meant when I said I expect at least 1 high profile mafia player. They could have been saved or as well both be mafia who got jailed when they were carrying a kill, or just one of each.

With the rampant shitposting going on today between them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia being so euphoric that their play worked. Plus, the more HF looks like town, the more likely he is to be scum.


Do you believe:

1) I am mafia and I was carrying the KP n1?

2) HF is mafia and was carrying KP n2?

I am town, so mafia knows I was protected. They knew we had either a JK ou a medic. Considering it could be a JK, I don't believe mafia would let Holyflare carry the kill since it's reasonable to consider he could be targeted by the JK.


I have a rather big qualm with the bolded.

If you are town, what makes you so sure you got hit when it might as well have been a town roleblocker blocking mafia or a vet taking the hit? It seems to me you are too eager to argue purely in your favour here.


Because a vet would auto-claim
Because a town roleblocker would've definitely claim since he caught the mafia guy carrying the kp
Because there is a JK that protected me, I have been universally townread n1, and no one died


The actions do not make you a townread, is how you have been acting detective gb 🕵️‍♂️


Do you want to know why he's been acting like this when I have a super solid claim and blocked KP? It's because he knows the reality of my claim and is probably mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 18:48 GMT
#1179
On October 03 2019 03:44 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:33 CopCake wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:19 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:13 Vivax wrote:
On October 03 2019 02:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I have a hard time figuring out how it came to this Shockey wagon when nearly the entire day has been mostly role talk.

Another thing I don't understand is how Branch is so sure that his targets got saved instead of being mafia carrying kills. That puts us at a GB/HF impasse. This is what I meant when I said I expect at least 1 high profile mafia player. They could have been saved or as well both be mafia who got jailed when they were carrying a kill, or just one of each.

With the rampant shitposting going on today between them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia being so euphoric that their play worked. Plus, the more HF looks like town, the more likely he is to be scum.


Do you believe:

1) I am mafia and I was carrying the KP n1?

2) HF is mafia and was carrying KP n2?

I am town, so mafia knows I was protected. They knew we had either a JK ou a medic. Considering it could be a JK, I don't believe mafia would let Holyflare carry the kill since it's reasonable to consider he could be targeted by the JK.


I have a rather big qualm with the bolded.

If you are town, what makes you so sure you got hit when it might as well have been a town roleblocker blocking mafia or a vet taking the hit? It seems to me you are too eager to argue purely in your favour here.


Because a vet would auto-claim
Because a town roleblocker would've definitely claim since he caught the mafia guy carrying the kp
Because there is a JK that protected me, I have been universally townread n1, and no one died


The actions do not make you a townread, is how you have been acting detective gb 🕵️‍♂️


Do you want to know why he's been acting like this when I have a super solid claim and blocked KP? It's because he knows the reality of my claim and is probably mafia.


You're acting super anti-town right now


what's new?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:00 GMT
#1186
That's so fucking wrong it hurts.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:07 GMT
#1191
On October 03 2019 04:06 CopCake wrote:
If there was no kill

And you are a vet

You assume you got targeted, no?


A) No.

B) You should never ever claim. Mafia don't know you are a vet or if you were docced, they were rbd or if you were JKd. They may try and hit someone else in case and you are a solid blue role that can effectively cc at end game if there is a mafia yolo claim.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:09 GMT
#1192
Unless they have a rber when they should target who they kill I guess.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:09 GMT
#1193
Also, TS might not be mafia here. I didn't hate any of his reactions.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:10 GMT
#1194
Or, well, he could still be mafia but not the person that delivered the kill etc.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:11 GMT
#1195
I am NOT rescinding my tracker claim, just that it was not on TS.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 02 2019 19:21 GMT
#1199
I really truly believe that glowingbear is mafia. Everything he has done screams of mafia agenda 24/7.

He voted to extend the cycle by voting boxerfred but then he said he would never vote anyone other than shockeyy today which defeats the entire fucking point of doing that. Let's say shockeyy is town, for argument's sake, and GB lynched him and bf was modkilled. Today would be LYLO so there would be no chance of us no lynching, GB would then have to push someone else, no doubt another person incapable of defending themselves from shit tier logic.

Killing bf pushed the game into mylo, BUT he still said he would lynch shockeyy and if shockeyy is town this directly ends the game too. You can tell the agenda because literally all he ever fucking drones on about is how great he is for hammering shockeyy but that meaning absolutely nothing.

Then you see his reactions to everything I did today:

I was quite literally shot by mafia.
I claimed an unCCd blue role, which I am still not backing off of.
I claimed TS (who GB found scummy afaik) visited GB and the JK confirms that he protected GB n1 so in GB's world TS is CONFIRMED mafia and should automatically be the vote.

GB decides to vote me first. The only possible explanation for this is that he knows that either tubesock is not mafia and the chances of him being wandering town and visiting him the same night jk blocked his kp is very slim or that they are both mafia together and ts did not deliver any actions to GB. Thus, he can quite rightly call my claim (or at least, the action that Branch said I did) fake.

Notice how every post GB makes this cycle is laced with loaded actions for the next day "Oh, if TS flips town we just lynch HF (even though I've pretty much made my claim as sketchy looking as I could and he knows it)". I think TS might be town and GB knows it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:27 GMT
#1201
My n1 check was copcake and she went nowhere. I was deciding between copcake and GB and just flipped a coin, deal with it.

The clues I've been dropping all day was because I made my breadcrumb the most elaborate fucking thing I could think of that was like an 8 layer deep mafia misdirection. It makes it look like I say something regarding GB and TS so that mafia may shit themselves and shoot me (which apparently they did, whether it's because of the crumb I don't know) but if you look into the "game" I was posting today, it should reveal the puzzle.

The clue was a quote from Nietzsche. I used a Nihilist cipher with a key that decoded that phrase into digits. If you add up the digits they lead to a post from Copcake. I thought she was looking a bit more towny just before n1 ended but I was out and couldn't be bothered to change my check last minute.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:33 GMT
#1203
I am marginally salty (read: very) that branch outed me today before I could get another track off. Trading 2 blues for potentially just ts at that point is very suboptimal.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:45 GMT
#1205
If anyone doubts this they are fucking stupid, my key was literally the word track:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The remaining clues were:

Clue 3: Stop! You'll need a key to pass through. What is my action?
Clue 4: Have you ever heard of the phrase, the sum of two halves?
Hint 4: (Sum and add the 2 numbers dodo)
Clue 5: Now find that post!

Pretty sure it led to copcake's first post or something, I don't remember.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:45 GMT
#1206
On October 03 2019 04:43 Tubesock wrote:
So you never tracked me to GB?


Nah fam, soz. Good reactions though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:45 GMT
#1207
You guys are so anti fun, I wish you played along with the game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:46 GMT
#1208
I did get some good reactions out of it though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:48 GMT
#1210
I can't believe the number of times I've claimed something and nobody believed it so I wanted to go through ridiculous lengths to make sure people didn't go pants on fucking head.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:48 GMT
#1211
To be fair, I don't blame them for that though :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:49 GMT
#1213
Today we are lynching glowingbear.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:50 GMT
#1214
This guy tried to discredit me every single post this entire cycle for absolutely no reason. He played his hand far too soon.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:54 GMT
#1216
On October 03 2019 04:51 CopCake wrote:
But I also did that and I AM town.

Why are you so sure I am town tho?

Like...

I could be a mafia not carrying the kill...


You didn't ask me any questions, you just "supported" GB motivationally. Looks like ignorance and you just want to be sure rather than GB's insidious angle pushing. I am judging your play by the rest of the game (d2 really) rather than anything and I thought you looked a lot more towny during it.

Did you vote me this cycle? No. You have no reason not to believe I'm tracker and that TS visited GB or that I got saved.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:55 GMT
#1217
All of GB's posts look like he wants the most credit for doing literally anything in the game. It's the height of faux investigation nuanced with pretending to care.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:56 GMT
#1218
On October 03 2019 02:58 FreezingFoot wrote:
Vivax, unless something extraordinary happens, this is how the game will follow:

1) We lynch Tubesock and he flips red. Then we lynch you.

2) We lynch Tubesock and he flips green. We lynch holyflare.

There's no other option


I mean look at these posts, they're so bad.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 19:59 GMT
#1219
Even his fucking gif knows I'm town and he perpetuates that I'm just a fake claiming town (because he literally knows I didn't track TS anywhere!).

On October 02 2019 12:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
[image loading]

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:00 GMT
#1220
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/551051-newbie-student-mafia-xxx?user=FreezingFoot&page=7

read from here onwards

he even literally tells people not to save me (because he was shooting me)

On October 02 2019 02:17 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 02:16 CopCake wrote:
Actually no, I clear no one. HF could be doing a masterpiece mafia move but it would be too insane.

GB could be trying to save a mate (Shockey) last phase but this theory is extremely paranoid too.

But if something I have learned here is that TL mafia rely more of killing “game solvers” people than making chess moves.

Either way Shockey is definetly mafia and needs to be lynched.

From the people alive that is not Shockey I do not trust Vivax. Branch sounds more natural. Tube is the same as BF.



You don't think my argument against Shockey is iron clad?

Anyway, no one should save HF tonight.


this was directly after I hard claimed blue EVEN BEFORE BRANCH OUTED ME
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:10 GMT
#1223
At least we have 24 more hours for GB to grovel at my feet or somehow twist this into me being mafia loooooool
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:10 GMT
#1225
Ah right on cue
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:11 GMT
#1226
That is the most half hearted crap retort you could have done. Basically a seal LOL :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:13 GMT
#1228
If TS didn't play it so smoothly I would have kept it up for the whole cycle so be glad
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:15 GMT
#1229
Next time try and hide the fact that you have the perfect information.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:15 GMT
#1230
A town you would never have any reason not to believe TS is mafia there, especially after he essentially disappeared right after I claimed it. Very telling.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:16 GMT
#1231
Someone please turn up. I don't want to have to waste my time making a GB is mafia case.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:22 GMT
#1233
I'm a proper foodie so most. I really enjoy cooking a lot.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:26 GMT
#1236
On October 03 2019 05:23 CopCake wrote:
But burgers? Pasta? Steaks?


I made a really nice halloumi burger with courgettes and carrots recently. Depends where I am I guess? Italian, probably risotto. Uh, American I guess burger... not much choice there lol BBQ I guess counts. I'm a sucker for a good hog roast.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:29 GMT
#1237
We are lynching GB. Read his filter from when I hard claimed last night (linked it last page) with the view he knows I'm fake claiming my target and it makes it really really fucking obvious he's mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:32 GMT
#1238
His reaction to my reveal was basically a seal????????? "I'm not playing anymore" looooool
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:33 GMT
#1241
when the fuck has a town gb ever called me mafia and just left it alone? he would be yelling to the hills for days OR admitting he was wrong (probably the latter is unlikely but he would definitely have some resolve)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:35 GMT
#1242
On October 03 2019 05:33 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 05:32 Holyflare wrote:
His reaction to my reveal was basically a seal????????? "I'm not playing anymore" looooool


I'm not playing anymore UNTIL you are lynched or I am out of the game.


Any time you want to either:

Rebut any of the accusations I've made towards you

OR

Explaining how the fuck I make up all that shit as NOT tracker

that would be exceptionally good of you. I will wait (for eternity).
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:35 GMT
#1243
Tube who is mafia with vivax then?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:42 GMT
#1244
I am tempted to lynch vivax but I don't trust a single one of you to ever lynch GB after I'm gone over some shit like shockeyy. GB is very very obviously mafia at this point. Understandably, you might not be able to see it through my eyes but at every point he's questioned me like he knew and it's rubbed me the wrong way the whole cycle.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:47 GMT
#1246
I never said he was but he's GB's lynch of choice over the night and GB is definitely mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:52 GMT
#1250
On October 03 2019 05:49 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 05:33 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 05:32 Holyflare wrote:
His reaction to my reveal was basically a seal????????? "I'm not playing anymore" looooool


I'm not playing anymore UNTIL you are lynched or I am out of the game.


Any time you want to either:

Rebut any of the accusations I've made towards you

OR

Explaining how the fuck I make up all that shit as NOT tracker

that would be exceptionally good of you. I will wait (for eternity).


Nobody hardclaims blue at night. You either hardclaim a role or not
I was able to see that you actually didn't track Tubesock into me because of how you wanted to lynch me day2. It should be enough to know I was town and Tubesock tried to kill me, IF you had actually tracked him into me.
You decided to conveniently say that you didn't track Tubesock after the obvious could happen: town go against you if he flipped green. Conveniently, you changed your targets. (This clears Tubesock btw, if you're actually mafia).

It's funny that you suppose that I was roleblocked carrying a nightkill, but that actually could've happened to you.

Your arguments against me are shit




Yet as mafia, for no reason, I claimed tracker going for a 1 for 1 trade with Tubesock (who is apparently cleared) AND you voted to lynch him!!!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:53 GMT
#1251
I can think of about 20 different games where I hard claim blue at night too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:54 GMT
#1253
like holy fuck I can't believe how baited GB was
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:54 GMT
#1254
On October 03 2019 05:53 CopCake wrote:
I am still lynching shockey 🤷🏽‍♀️


look at this guy squirm! he's really obviously mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:57 GMT
#1256
And why does that mean you're town? If you're mafia you know the exact same things.

The only thing you have to gain as mafia is credit for saying you were right all along, which is what you've been angling for from every action you've taken this entire game.

As town there's no way you don't believe it. I could quite easily have been faking my reads on you and him the entire time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:58 GMT
#1258
holy fuck this game is unbelievable
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 20:58 GMT
#1259
why the shit do I claim tracker as mafia for absolutely no reason??????????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 21:00 GMT
#1260
You either believe me and lynch GB because when I get this certain on him he is 99% mafia. I have never been wrong when I'm this sure, I am pretty sure on this.

Or you don't believe me and you lynch me with glowingbear. Don't pussy foot around it and lynch shockeyy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 21:06 GMT
#1264
On October 03 2019 06:03 CopCake wrote:
You didnt claim tracker the first night...

Quitting the “message” shenanigans you lowkeyd claimed vet or that a doc/jailkeeper/blocker saved you.

As town, or VT you dont know what kind of blues you got in the game but with a no kill you imagine: roleblock, doc, jailkeeper, vet.

Mafia probably freaked out in their QT thinking it could be a roleblocker or a jailkeeper so... what best way to distract town to say “I got saveeeeddddd”. That way whoever blue performed an action could think that the other blue role did it.


Why would I claim tracker on the first night????? What?

I just assumed I was saved because why the fuck would anyone kill gb? He had literally posted 3 posts since I entered the game and I was towny af.

This is also stupid. I'm a blue, there's only going to be one other blue in the game. Why would they assume there is another blue that could ALSO stop kp????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 21:08 GMT
#1265
I don't even understand what you are arguing? That I'm mafia? But you're not lynching me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 21:09 GMT
#1266
I'm literally unccd. I was the first blue to even claim!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 21:13 GMT
#1269
I don't really get anything you're saying tbh. Gb is just mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 21:14 GMT
#1271
It only really makes sense specifically if shockeyy is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 21:28 GMT
#1281
Tbh I don't even know what the shockeyy case is other than he's been mediocre and sheeped scum reads. If you want to make another case on different points than the original then be my guest.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 21:29 GMT
#1285
On October 03 2019 06:28 Tubesock wrote:
Hmm. If Shockeyy and HF were mafia, then I can see Shockeyy not voting to save himself.


That's... Elaborate.

I would be mad if my teammate didn't vote to save themselves. I don't think shockeyy was around at deadline though so irrelevant either way.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 21:33 GMT
#1290
It's frustrating but yeah
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 21:50 GMT
#1301
Oh come on no need to argue with little quips.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 21:56 GMT
#1306
On October 03 2019 06:53 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 06:23 Tubesock wrote:
I don’t think GB is scum.

It is completely rational and logical to be skeptical of HF’s claim. I mean he’s HF. Plus, 2 blue roles in a 9 player game seems pretty unbalanced. Not impossible, but I think unlikely. If HF were mafia, he 100% would make some breadcrumb that’s unquestionable like this.

But would mafia!HF carry the kp N2? And why would mafiaHF prolong the game by voting Boxerfred? I don’t see mafia!HF doing that. So, I think this is town!HF.


1) Yes, especially after he claimed blue during night.

2) To gain towncred


Yeah claim blue so I get saved. Good plan.

Get town credit by prolonging the game 2 extra cycles. Good mafia plan.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:07 GMT
#1316
The fuck?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:12 GMT
#1321
Do you just change your scum reads to whatever fits your situation?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:14 GMT
#1325
On October 03 2019 07:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:
plus I've been straight forward with all why scum reads. GB has been in that list for quite some time. How is that changing it?


Because you've arbitrarily thrown my name into a scum list based on nothing logical. I literally saved your life.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:18 GMT
#1326
And I'm voting gb and have called him mafia all day lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:19 GMT
#1328
At least your quotes highlight how opportunistic gb has been. He calls me obviously fake and he knew it all along to cover his TMI but then uses my track to defend himself against shockey's accusations.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:20 GMT
#1329
On October 03 2019 07:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
that's only today for you, I've been calling him mafia since the get-go.


Um, no. Literally my first post of the game is calling him mafia. He was in my mafia list. My entire catch up post was calling him mafia.

Try again.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:25 GMT
#1334
On October 03 2019 07:24 CopCake wrote:
But rn I am mad, sorry.



Why?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:41 GMT
#1341
On October 02 2019 02:01 FreezingFoot wrote:
OK, town, listen to me in case I eventually die tonight:

SHOCKEY is MAFIA

It's simple. In the last day's votecount, Shockey was to be lynched (thanks to me), and boxerfred was the guy to be lynched. If Shockey was town, he would know that I switched to boxefred and had just 1 town mislynched, not 2. There is no reason for a mafia to do that, because it would mean another townie dead. As Shockey is the only person who could know he is town, he should instantly read me as town.
But he came to the thread to say that I changed my vote to boxefred in order to just have him lynched in the next day, which clearly doesn't make sense. Unless Shockey is mafia and has another agenda other than trying to find out other people's alignment and lynching scum. Basically, he wants to survive and making it impossible to narrow the lynches to this mafia team. So he discredits me.

And if you check his gameplay, it is scummy. He doesn't have strong scumreads, he basically is surviving. You can also check Copcake's case and filter dive him.

That's it. You ONE HUNDRED PERCENT LYNCH SHOCKEY TOMORROW. And, in my opinion, you also lynch Vivax after.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:41 GMT
#1342
What's changed?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:46 GMT
#1346
Of course you are
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:53 GMT
#1349
I don't particularly care if vivax dies. We have a free day today to get rid of riff raff.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:55 GMT
#1351
On October 03 2019 07:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 07:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
that's only today for you, I've been calling him mafia since the get-go.


Um, no. Literally my first post of the game is calling him mafia. He was in my mafia list. My entire catch up post was calling him mafia.

Try again.


Really want to play this game? I at least know how to read duddeeee....

This was your first post:

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2019 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
/in


This was your next post when the game actually started:

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
FF seems pretty townie







Don't even want to dignify this with a response tbh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 02 2019 22:59 GMT
#1355
On October 03 2019 07:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 07:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 03 2019 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 07:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
that's only today for you, I've been calling him mafia since the get-go.


Um, no. Literally my first post of the game is calling him mafia. He was in my mafia list. My entire catch up post was calling him mafia.

Try again.


Really want to play this game? I at least know how to read duddeeee....

This was your first post:

On September 06 2019 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
/in


This was your next post when the game actually started:

On September 28 2019 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
FF seems pretty townie






HF do you really believe any mafia would post something like this unless they are not caring for the game?


Dude's just trolling.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 00:20 GMT
#1364
On October 03 2019 08:55 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 08:23 CopCake wrote:
On October 03 2019 08:17 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 08:12 CopCake wrote:
I can easily write a telenovela with HF and GB relationship


It’s a good one

Why you won’t vote Vivax?


Why are you voting him?

Which are the guys on your poe?



Sorry I was driving.

I’d lynch Vivax or Tubesock


Tubesock has literally been telling people to vote vivax?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 00:50 GMT
#1375
Branch should rng between saving me and offensively rbing between gb/tube/shockey/vivax
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 00:58 GMT
#1378
Quote this post for end game. Not lynching gb will completely destroy any chance we have of winning.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 01:01 GMT
#1379
Also cake why are you being so weird? You've lost all kinds of motivation and suddenly it's all about no lynching and not voting?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 02:10 GMT
#1390
On October 03 2019 11:02 CopCake wrote:
I mean HF was also already after me and GB so why Mafia GB would carry the kill if he could be blocked/tracked/etc when he was in the middle of the hurricane for town with that sudden change of read on Ewya.


You're using hindsight. I don't think gb was really scum read by anyone but me at the time and I certainly don't think they thought I'd be tracker.

Also, sorry you're feeling shitty. You've done well imo at giving reasons for why you think/thought shockey is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 02:16 GMT
#1394
On October 03 2019 11:14 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:10 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:02 CopCake wrote:
I mean HF was also already after me and GB so why Mafia GB would carry the kill if he could be blocked/tracked/etc when he was in the middle of the hurricane for town with that sudden change of read on Ewya.


You're using hindsight. I don't think gb was really scum read by anyone but me at the time and I certainly don't think they thought I'd be tracker.

Also, sorry you're feeling shitty. You've done well imo at giving reasons for why you think/thought shockey is mafia.


Yeah but with poe we have vivax, tube and shockey as town reads? By almost all? Why give the kill to the most heated person at the time (GB). With heated I mean by you :p


Maybe the other mafia was quite well town read? I don't know. Maybe specifically so that they could say they were saved?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 02:16 GMT
#1396
Maybe it was an accident I honestly have no idea.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 02:19 GMT
#1398
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 02:21 GMT
#1399
On October 03 2019 11:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok, think about it this way, I'm not mafia. Now what are your reads?

Also why does town want to give up a kill on a possible mafia? If there's two people that are mafia, we have a 29% chance of killing one of them now. If there's three mafia, we have 43% chance.

If you Lynch me that's going to give a ton of odds over to mafia. I personally think there's a possibility of godfather, and role blocker. It's a NEWBIE game, why not teach both roles while at it.

Also I'm going to follow up in like 30mins with a big post. Just need to write it out. Then I won't be back for a till late.


I don’t mean to offend you, but nothing you say is relevant to the game and your reads are mostly based on WIFOM.

So, we have Holyflare saying he didn’t track tubesock into me. Who are you going to vote?


No offense taken, but that may also be the mafia talking. Cause I know damn well I'm not mafia. And I think I play an ok mafia role, so I think I can find them easily.


If you are town then GB should be almost confirmed mafia to you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 02:34 GMT
#1401
On October 03 2019 11:33 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.


Then mafia has a cop for sure.

Like

If GB was mafia... why wouldnt he block you?

Or his mate.

AGJSHDJAGEAGGJ,E,K


Maybe he's the rber? Maybe they block who they try and kill in case of a vet? All valid reasoning.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 02:36 GMT
#1402
Who is to say that gb isn't the rber who sent the kill on me but got rbd?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 02:48 GMT
#1404
Maybe I should read these people's filters :D
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 03:04 GMT
#1406
What reads has tube given on gb that scream town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 03:13 GMT
#1412
On October 03 2019 12:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:33 CopCake wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's GB + one of tube/vivax/shockey though, 100%. There's no way I believe a town GB has this much resolve to hold back from calling me mafia all of a sudden. The sudden change of personality just looks like he's attempting to get people on his side (especially me, so many attempts to try and buddy me).

Then he miraculously decides shockey isn't the lynch over vivax even though he's called shockey mafia for the past 2 days with almost no content from either? Don't buy it.


Then mafia has a cop for sure.

Like

If GB was mafia... why wouldnt he block you?

Or his mate.

AGJSHDJAGEAGGJ,E,K

ARE TOU TRACKER?


I am never backing down from my claim. Cop visited nobody n1.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 03:16 GMT
#1414
Were you around at deadline when boxer died, Shockey?
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 03:25 GMT
#1419
On October 03 2019 12:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
Were you around at deadline when boxer died, Shockey?


No I wasn't looking at the timestamps, I had a post a few hours before however. And with my mind changing on Tube, it definitely leads me only to GB.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 00:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
But in all honesty, lets say boxer doesn't flip, who does that lead us too? I mean it doesn't change my read on Tubesock, I personally think he's the scummiest out of everyone since he's been the only active one.

As I said yesterday:

On September 30 2019 08:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

FreezingFoot (2): Holyflare, Tubesock
Boxerfred(1): Tubesock, Vivax
ShoCkeyy(1): CopCake
Tubesock (0): Vivax
Branch.AUT (0): Holyflare
CopCake (0): Vivax

Not Voting (4): Branch.AUT, Boxerfred, Shockeyy, FreezingFoot

FreezingFoot is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Monday, Sep 30 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



If you exclude Branch and I from the not voting list, it leaves you Boxer + Freezing, Tube jumps on the Freezing train because he knows that may never go off with how others are targeting people such as myself. Copcake is just chasing after me because they hate me no matter what and would just rather see me lynched. Not a good townie, but understandable.



Right

On October 01 2019 00:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I don't care if you don't move off of me, but you're not doing the town any favors by trying to vote for me, or trying to create a train on me, that's why it's so hard to move you into a solid 100% town.

On October 01 2019 05:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Even if you switched it to me, that’s killing off another townie. The last few pages have been a wild ride.


There's a massive gap between you saying the first and second post here with the deadline occurring in between. As it stood you weren't even up for lynch, bf was.

So, why is it a good tubesock point to say you're town because you didn't save yourself if you were quite simply not here to?
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 03:35 GMT
#1422
I've already explained all of mafia gb's motives, doesn't seem like anything new. I have absolutely no idea how you've reached the conclusion I'm mafia with gb though. I'm the biggest advocate for his lynch at every point this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 03:38 GMT
#1423
Killing boxerfred as part of the plan I made was to make the game mylo instead of lylo. Then we no lynch the next day for more info and another cycle to talk.

If shockey is town then lynching him in mylo would lose us the game. That's part of the reason I scum read gb because he said he was following the plan and then advocated for a shockey lynch directly after.

Maybe he doesn't wanna do it now because it proves me town if shockey is town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 03:41 GMT
#1425
On October 03 2019 12:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 12:35 Holyflare wrote:
I've already explained all of mafia gb's motives, doesn't seem like anything new. I have absolutely no idea how you've reached the conclusion I'm mafia with gb though. I'm the biggest advocate for his lynch at every point this game.


I had to go through all possibilities.


Wait so what exactly is your definitive scum team list?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 03:44 GMT
#1427
Also fuck you guys. I keep forcing myself to stay awake just so I get a chance to talk to talk to everyone between timezones for once. It's 5am ffs.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 03:47 GMT
#1432
On October 03 2019 12:47 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 12:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Even if I was here, I wouldn't have moved off. I'm not mafia nor am I GB. I would of actually preferred to get lynch cause I've been on a business trip since Sunday, but that didn't happen and I'm here doing my best to participate and help town out. Also as I mentioned in a earlier post, GB flip to boxer was because if I was voted off, it would of not been easy to lynch boxer later, I'm an easier lynch or they think. It would of changed the games dynamic from thinking I'm mafia to pointing towards others, mafia love that I get the attention, so why vote me off so early?


Why wouldn’t I simply kill two townies in a row?


Because if shockey is town you have a ready made wagon in mylo that everyone is amicable to lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 03:49 GMT
#1434
On October 03 2019 12:48 FreezingFoot wrote:
HF, consider for a second that I’m not mafia. Who would be, then?


The hosts for giving you the wrong role pm.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 03:52 GMT
#1438
The most surreal thing to me and probably what convinced me finally that you were mafia, other than everything you did today was the fact you randomly switched to vote boxerfred right at the last second. Your reason was to literally follow my plan in case he was town and you whined and went directly against it immediately without hesitation. Pre-thought out reactions and fake af. There is no town reason to do what you did.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 03:55 GMT
#1440
On October 03 2019 12:51 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 12:47 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 12:47 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 12:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Even if I was here, I wouldn't have moved off. I'm not mafia nor am I GB. I would of actually preferred to get lynch cause I've been on a business trip since Sunday, but that didn't happen and I'm here doing my best to participate and help town out. Also as I mentioned in a earlier post, GB flip to boxer was because if I was voted off, it would of not been easy to lynch boxer later, I'm an easier lynch or they think. It would of changed the games dynamic from thinking I'm mafia to pointing towards others, mafia love that I get the attention, so why vote me off so early?


Why wouldn’t I simply kill two townies in a row?


Because if shockey is town you have a ready made wagon in mylo that everyone is amicable to lynch.


6v2
4v2 n2
3v2 d3

Vs

4v2 d3

Although what you say makes sense, I think I would prefer to kill 2 townies every time just to have more vote power d3.

Anyway, I should be voting shocked 100^, right? Especially if Vivax flips mafia.


You have less vote power. Your teammate is more likely to be randomly lynched. There is no backup wagon after shockey for you to be sure who would be up next.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 04:02 GMT
#1443
Don't insult my intelligence, we already know that plan doesn't make any sense.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 04:04 GMT
#1444
In the case of conflicting roleblocks, the mafia Roleblocker's action will take priority over Town Jailkeeper/Roleblocker. (Suppose the Mafia Roleblocker has roleblocked the Town Roleblocker and vice-versa, but the Mafia Roleblocker is also carrying the night kill, then the Mafia Roleblocker's roleblock will go through first and the night kill will be unimpeded.


It's literally in the fucking op.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 04:05 GMT
#1446
And who's to say vivax is even mafia? It's likely but I have seen him be an absolute shitter as town before.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 04:05 GMT
#1447
On October 03 2019 13:05 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 13:02 Holyflare wrote:
Don't insult my intelligence, we already know that plan doesn't make any sense.


HAHAHAHAHA

If there are two mafia, and I’m one of them, and my partner is lynched, I’m the only one who can carry a kp

JK me, nobody dies = I’m mafia
JK me, someone dies = I’m confirmed town.


Nice try. Try again.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 04:07 GMT
#1450
I have talked about this about 100 times.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 04:11 GMT
#1452
Not particularly, you're wasting my life. You try over and over again to gain credit for plays but every single time there is a mafia plan behind it. Nothing you've done eber has an innocent townie looking for possibilities vibe. You feel very much like you're manipulating people and the thread.

I will not ever vote for someone you advocate to lynch today, especially when someone else in the scummy pile is voting with you. Feel free to convince these other people though.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 04:17 GMT
#1453
On October 03 2019 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 08:55 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 08:23 CopCake wrote:
On October 03 2019 08:17 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 08:12 CopCake wrote:
I can easily write a telenovela with HF and GB relationship


It’s a good one

Why you won’t vote Vivax?


Why are you voting him?

Which are the guys on your poe?



Sorry I was driving.

I’d lynch Vivax or Tubesock


Tubesock has literally been telling people to vote vivax?


Hilarity ensues.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 04:19 GMT
#1454
Let's say hypothetically vivax flips town. You save your partner, you rb branch and kill me or kill branch but have no idea if I get a track off or if he blocks you. Nobody will lynch you in a million years over shockey, tube or whoever. You win. I'm not letting it happen and you need to die.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 04:22 GMT
#1455
If I'm mafia and in your shoes I pick the scummiest lurker that's town and say oh damn he was scummy and everyone thought so. Rinse and repeat until win.

That's what you did. Just picked a name that you think everyone scum reads so you can get your lynch off. You need to remember that I'm good at this game and know what you're thinking before you do it. Unfortunately for you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 04:26 GMT
#1456
Fuck me if there's 3 mafia even. Then it's still mylo or lylo too.

Everyone should be voting gb together. Nobody can be on a separate wagon. Just in case.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 04:27 GMT
#1457
I'll make a case after work tomorrow. Which starts in 3 hours.....
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 04:35 GMT
#1459
On October 03 2019 13:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 13:27 Holyflare wrote:
I'll make a case after work tomorrow. Which starts in 3 hours.....


Go to sleep then? :D


Another mafia gb ploy. Make me so sleep deprived I can't get him lynched.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 04:43 GMT
#1460
On October 02 2019 12:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
[image loading]


Lest we forget shockeyy/tube were scum reads.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 10:39 GMT
#1470
On October 03 2019 16:42 CopCake wrote:
How did you know someone visited GB if you didnt target TS?



Are you talking about me lol?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 15:22 GMT
#1522
On October 03 2019 22:47 CopCake wrote:
Someone understands what I am saying?

How HF knows GB got visited if he is not a watcher and worse he didnt even targeted him?

HF night 1 targeted me.


Are you insane? I just put the initials of one lurker and one guy I mafia read in an acronym to confuse mafia. Have you even read my whole breadcrumb post or not?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 15:26 GMT
#1525
On October 03 2019 23:01 FreezingFoot wrote:
The one thing that makes me suspicious of hojyflare is just because he wasted half a cycle with a lie, stopping any debate in thread, and that he doesn’t seem to try to see me coming as town. It’s almost like he decided I’m mafia, when I’ve been extremely town except for my deadline votes


This is so unbelievably bull shit lol. You've literally been in a game where I was cop and fake claimed a red check on you for the entire cycle and you got lynched and I got lynched the day after. The fact I ended it after a day with actual reads on people's reactions to it should tell you so much more than this surface level bull shit you're spouting just so you can conveniently scum read me again.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 15:35 GMT
#1529
On October 04 2019 00:27 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 00:26 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 23:01 FreezingFoot wrote:
The one thing that makes me suspicious of hojyflare is just because he wasted half a cycle with a lie, stopping any debate in thread, and that he doesn’t seem to try to see me coming as town. It’s almost like he decided I’m mafia, when I’ve been extremely town except for my deadline votes


This is so unbelievably bull shit lol. You've literally been in a game where I was cop and fake claimed a red check on you for the entire cycle and you got lynched and I got lynched the day after. The fact I ended it after a day with actual reads on people's reactions to it should tell you so much more than this surface level bull shit you're spouting just so you can conveniently scum read me again.


I
AM
NOT
SCUMREADING YOU



You're sure doing a good job of throwing shit in my direction.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 15:36 GMT
#1530
We should never lynch a target gb wants to lynch. You lynch gb or tube or shockey today. Gb will flip mafia and then you offensively jail one of them.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 15:37 GMT
#1533
Whichever of those 3 (definitely should be gb) we choose we have to be on the same target in case the game balance is whack and there's 3 mafia. Stop them all switching to someone.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 15:38 GMT
#1535
On October 04 2019 00:36 CopCake wrote:
Do whatever you want Branch, You had been the best town with your night actions.

Never ask who to lynch like a sheep, make up your own decisions. If you think HF is town then go and solve the gane with him.



Why are you discrediting my breadcrumb and not listening?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 15:39 GMT
#1536
On October 04 2019 00:37 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 00:36 Holyflare wrote:
We should never lynch a target gb wants to lynch. You lynch gb or tube or shockey today. Gb will flip mafia and then you offensively jail one of them.


Let me tell you, I’m town. I’ll flip green and branch will die.

Stop being so tunnelled.


And you think vivax is mafia with tube yet you're quite happy to nonchalantly vote with tube the entire day killing vivax while tube sits in the darkness doing nothing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 15:43 GMT
#1537
I don't believe a single one or your read progressions this entire game GB. It's all just random throw shit and say what you want at any opportune time that suits you to end up on a lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 15:45 GMT
#1538
For instance who have you called mafia this cycle? I'll make a list.

Me
Tube
Vivax
Shockey

Four people that you're sure are mafia at every point. It's not even weighing up each person for their respective posts this game, it's just flitting between certainties to lynch who you can.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:08 GMT
#1545
I am not voting anyone other than GB. Perhaps it is because you don't know him but you should go back and read a game where he calls me mafia. He will go through great lengths to ruin the entire game even if I'm basically mechanically confirmed town if he is town because he gets something in his head and will not ever drop it.

This placid afk vote on vivax is definitely not town gb.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 16:12 GMT
#1548
On October 04 2019 01:10 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
I am not voting anyone other than GB. Perhaps it is because you don't know him but you should go back and read a game where he calls me mafia. He will go through great lengths to ruin the entire game even if I'm basically mechanically confirmed town if he is town because he gets something in his head and will not ever drop it.

This placid afk vote on vivax is definitely not town gb.


Placid afk vote? I’ve been posting everything I think in this thread.

I even voted tubesock now. You think he’s my partner? Vote him with me then.

Whoever you say is my partner, I’ll vote. How’s that?


You?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:13 GMT
#1550
Lol you'll do literally anything to try and manipulate. It's pathetic.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 16:13 GMT
#1551
On October 04 2019 01:12 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 00:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Hey Cop why is GB town to you? I don’t think anybody has ask you this.


His process.

If GB was mafia and you town...

Why would he miss the opportunity to get two town killed during the lynch?


Boom.


Oh my fucking god I've explained this one thousand million times cake.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 16:14 GMT
#1553
On October 03 2019 12:38 Holyflare wrote:
Killing boxerfred as part of the plan I made was to make the game mylo instead of lylo. Then we no lynch the next day for more info and another cycle to talk.

If shockey is town then lynching him in mylo would lose us the game. That's part of the reason I scum read gb because he said he was following the plan and then advocated for a shockey lynch directly after.

Maybe he doesn't wanna do it now because it proves me town if shockey is town?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:16 GMT
#1557
I will never believe your fake as fuck following the plan on boxerfred into whining and wanting to lynch shockey. Never.

You knew what the plan was and it was going to be going according to plan and you somehow were surprised it was going to plan and decided you wanted to deviate from it for absolutely no reason.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:17 GMT
#1559
On October 04 2019 01:16 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 01:14 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 12:38 Holyflare wrote:
Killing boxerfred as part of the plan I made was to make the game mylo instead of lylo. Then we no lynch the next day for more info and another cycle to talk.

If shockey is town then lynching him in mylo would lose us the game. That's part of the reason I scum read gb because he said he was following the plan and then advocated for a shockey lynch directly after.

Maybe he doesn't wanna do it now because it proves me town if shockey is town?



But I am the one that started the shockey train, I would be the one to blame.

And the whole “if shockey is town it clears me” only applies here, not in the other one.



Who cares if you started the shockey train? That literally has no relevance to anything I wrote.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:23 GMT
#1563
On October 04 2019 01:18 FreezingFoot wrote:
Stop evading my question
Who’s my partner?


Again with the pointless drivel questions. Likely tubesock. You know he's not getting lynched over you and you're distancing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:27 GMT
#1566
On October 04 2019 01:25 CopCake wrote:
This town doesnt deserve GB



The amount of blindness and question dodging is really starting to worry me. Why are you ignoring my questions? You've said stuff about my breadcrumb and then just disappeared.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:30 GMT
#1569
On October 04 2019 01:28 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2019 01:18 FreezingFoot wrote:
Stop evading my question
Who’s my partner?


Again with the pointless drivel questions. Likely tubesock. You know he's not getting lynched over you and you're distancing.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

If you’re town, when I flip, please think of how you could have tried to access me.

Because seriously, it’s been really bad the way you react to what I say.


If you are town you need to rethink your entire approach to playing this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:30 GMT
#1570
But I don't think you are so it literally doesn't matter.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 16:33 GMT
#1572
On October 04 2019 01:31 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 01:17 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2019 01:16 CopCake wrote:
On October 04 2019 01:14 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 12:38 Holyflare wrote:
Killing boxerfred as part of the plan I made was to make the game mylo instead of lylo. Then we no lynch the next day for more info and another cycle to talk.

If shockey is town then lynching him in mylo would lose us the game. That's part of the reason I scum read gb because he said he was following the plan and then advocated for a shockey lynch directly after.

Maybe he doesn't wanna do it now because it proves me town if shockey is town?



But I am the one that started the shockey train, I would be the one to blame.

And the whole “if shockey is town it clears me” only applies here, not in the other one.



Who cares if you started the shockey train? That literally has no relevance to anything I wrote.


Is this the question?

Because GB could easily be like “I followed cake”. It shockey flipped green then what during that day? /next night

Why would mafia miss the opportunity to kill two when they havent killed anyone?

You are not even considering that GB tried to save Shockey, you are so extremely sure shockey is town.

That is why I am scumreading you.

Because whenever I touch shockey you get damn crazy.




Like seriously I have literally 0 idea what you're talking about. Why have you just blatantly ignored the ENTIRE conversation about this?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 16:34 GMT
#1573
On October 04 2019 01:31 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 01:17 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2019 01:16 CopCake wrote:
On October 04 2019 01:14 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 12:38 Holyflare wrote:
Killing boxerfred as part of the plan I made was to make the game mylo instead of lylo. Then we no lynch the next day for more info and another cycle to talk.

If shockey is town then lynching him in mylo would lose us the game. That's part of the reason I scum read gb because he said he was following the plan and then advocated for a shockey lynch directly after.

Maybe he doesn't wanna do it now because it proves me town if shockey is town?



But I am the one that started the shockey train, I would be the one to blame.

And the whole “if shockey is town it clears me” only applies here, not in the other one.



Who cares if you started the shockey train? That literally has no relevance to anything I wrote.


Is this the question?

Because GB could easily be like “I followed cake”. It shockey flipped green then what during that day? /next night

Why would mafia miss the opportunity to kill two when they havent killed anyone?

You are not even considering that GB tried to save Shockey, you are so extremely sure shockey is town.

That is why I am scumreading you.

Because whenever I touch shockey you get damn crazy.




I am absolutely not sure shockey is town. Very unsure in fact. But he was GB's lynch of choice at a time when the game could have ended.

It's weird as fuck he's gone off him today, they could very easily be partners and I do not care if he dies.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:38 GMT
#1575
This is not the question either, cake. Are you mafia? You are absolutely not reading a single thing in this thread for the past day. These points have been talked about ad nauseam for multiple pages and you are treating them as if you've never seen anything about them at all.

Then you conveniently ignore everything I said about my breadcrumb and call me mafia for it without actually reading a single thing I said about it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:43 GMT
#1579
On October 04 2019 01:41 Tubesock wrote:
HF do you think anyone is town?


Cake and branch but also now I'm worried :D

So the answer to that is probably no. Everyone is being a real shitter tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:44 GMT
#1581
I have scaling scum reads though.

Gb top

Tube

Vivax

Shockey
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:46 GMT
#1584
On October 04 2019 01:44 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 01:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
HF tell FF to vote CopCake, he won't do it, he's definitely ignored me.


Sooo opportunistic lmao


Stop ignoring me, wtf. You say you like to play games where people talk about reads and all of a sudden when I come out with valid stuff you ignore me and just go to that default shit tier gb is town, hf could be mafia useless speech that everyone seems to have adopted.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:48 GMT
#1587
On October 04 2019 01:45 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 01:44 Holyflare wrote:
I have scaling scum reads though.

Gb top

Tube

Vivax

Shockey


If we lynch GB and he flips town...

Are you ok with being the next lynch or would it be just a shit read?

If GB flips town who is the mafia by poe?


I am literally an unCCd blue. If you want to lynch me when I've done nothing but be towny then do whatever the fuck you want. He will not flip town.

Mafia are forced to kill me the next night if they don't tonight so it's literally the most self resolving thing in this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 16:51 GMT
#1593
On October 04 2019 01:46 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 01:44 Holyflare wrote:
I have scaling scum reads though.

Gb top

Tube

Vivax

Shockey


Why am I above Vivax? Why am I there at all? After D1 you seemed to “not hate” what I’ve said.


You sit here passively in the thread directing people. I seemed to not hate what you said at the end of n1 and only then. Today I didn't hate what you said because you called my bluff on the tracker target but that's a really obvious thing if you're mafia with gb anyway.

I've seen vivax do this shit as town before and I've been burnt before and he's just afk as fuck. Vivax is the auto target of 2 people in the scummy pool and one of them is GB whose other scum read was you, who he was voting with. He's far more likely to be with you than vivax is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:52 GMT
#1594
On October 04 2019 01:49 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 01:45 CopCake wrote:
On October 04 2019 01:44 Holyflare wrote:
I have scaling scum reads though.

Gb top

Tube

Vivax

Shockey


If we lynch GB and he flips town...

Are you ok with being the next lynch or would it be just a shit read?

If GB flips town who is the mafia by poe?


makes sense he'd just go down the line right?


No, it's dependant on gb being mafia. Why would I pretend to live in a fantasy world.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 03 2019 16:54 GMT
#1595
On October 04 2019 01:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 01:44 CopCake wrote:
On October 04 2019 01:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
HF tell FF to vote CopCake, he won't do it, he's definitely ignored me.


Sooo opportunistic lmao


Stop ignoring me, wtf. You say you like to play games where people talk about reads and all of a sudden when I come out with valid stuff you ignore me and just go to that default shit tier gb is town, hf could be mafia useless speech that everyone seems to have adopted.


I am nothing but disappointed in you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 16:56 GMT
#1596
We need to consensus vote on one person today. I have made that abundantly clear. There are currently 2 confirmed town sitting on gb. Why are there more wagons?

Anyone not on gb is actively throwing away their vote for a potential loss.
Holyflare
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 17:01 GMT
#1598
On October 04 2019 01:59 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 01:56 Holyflare wrote:
We need to consensus vote on one person today. I have made that abundantly clear. There are currently 2 confirmed town sitting on gb. Why are there more wagons?

Anyone not on gb is actively throwing away their vote for a potential loss.


Because I’m town and the confirmed townie is sheeping the guy who’s voting a townie who has the same PoE list as him ROFL


Name a person in this thread that doesn't have the same poe list other than shockey. I'll wait.

Didn't know you were in your own poe list either.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:03 GMT
#1600
On October 04 2019 02:01 CopCake wrote:
Shockey is confirmed town?

Lmaoooooooooo



I can't even.
Holyflare
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 03 2019 17:03 GMT
#1602
On October 04 2019 02:03 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 02:01 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2019 01:59 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 04 2019 01:56 Holyflare wrote:
We need to consensus vote on one person today. I have made that abundantly clear. There are currently 2 confirmed town sitting on gb. Why are there more wagons?

Anyone not on gb is actively throwing away their vote for a potential loss.


Because I’m town and the confirmed townie is sheeping the guy who’s voting a townie who has the same PoE list as him ROFL


Name a person in this thread that doesn't have the same poe list other than shockey. I'll wait.

Didn't know you were in your own poe list either.


So why aren’t we voting inside that PoE?


I am. So are 3 other people.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:05 GMT
#1608
Cop mafia. Thoughts? Reading her last few posts and shit flinging is really putting the tinfoil into me.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:06 GMT
#1609
She's essentially just wanted to lynch shockey for two cycles and isn't even interacting with anyone anymore. She sits in a corner sniping and refuses to vote with a town consensus when she should know it's too dangerous not to vote the main wagon with the 2 blues.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:07 GMT
#1610
It actually feels like 2 people are playing on her account even because this is a stark difference from her relatively townie rest of the game.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:16 GMT
#1618
On October 04 2019 02:10 CopCake wrote:
Yeah because calling you mafia makes me mafia.


You are ignoring my questions. I still don't even know why you're calling me mafia. You're calling me mafia and are just idly sitting by on shockey. Not trying to convince anyone to do anything.

I will ask you one last time. Why are you chosing to ignore what I actually said about my breadcrumb? Why are you not reading anything in the thread? Why did you ignore everything I wrote about GB's motives.

Why are you voting off wagon with 2 confirmed blues on it when you know town has to consensus vote today?
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:19 GMT
#1619
I've been nothing but courteous the entire game to you, cake. Even when I thought you were essentially confirmed mafia I gave you the benefit of the doubt and talked to you.

At least provide the same decency to me and play the game.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:23 GMT
#1622
On October 04 2019 02:20 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2019 02:10 CopCake wrote:
Yeah because calling you mafia makes me mafia.


You are ignoring my questions. I still don't even know why you're calling me mafia. You're calling me mafia and are just idly sitting by on shockey. Not trying to convince anyone to do anything.

I will ask you one last time. Why are you chosing to ignore what I actually said about my breadcrumb? Why are you not reading anything in the thread? Why did you ignore everything I wrote about GB's motives.

Why are you voting off wagon with 2 confirmed blues on it when you know town has to consensus vote today?


Can you quote me the explenation of your breadcrumb?

I am at work and I cant filter dive.

I got the idea of you being mafia yesterday when I woke up to get water and decided to check the thread and then it came to my mind “How did HF got to know GB got targeted if he is tracker”

Then my theory of HF + Shockey team made sense.

Either way if it makes you happy Ill vote GB but if he flips town you die the next day.

Your reasons to mafia read him do not satisfy me.

“He wouldddddf have yelled i aammmm mafiaaaa always he goes long ways tooooo proveee it he is trying to buddy meeee look at his gif he knows i am towwwnn”



I did not know gb got targeted at all. Branch literally posted that he went to GB and I ran with it. I tracked you.

On October 03 2019 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
My n1 check was copcake and she went nowhere. I was deciding between copcake and GB and just flipped a coin, deal with it.

The clues I've been dropping all day was because I made my breadcrumb the most elaborate fucking thing I could think of that was like an 8 layer deep mafia misdirection. It makes it look like I say something regarding GB and TS so that mafia may shit themselves and shoot me (which apparently they did, whether it's because of the crumb I don't know) but if you look into the "game" I was posting today, it should reveal the puzzle.

The clue was a quote from Nietzsche. I used a Nihilist cipher with a key that decoded that phrase into digits. If you add up the digits they lead to a post from Copcake. I thought she was looking a bit more towny just before n1 ended but I was out and couldn't be bothered to change my check last minute.


On October 03 2019 04:45 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone doubts this they are fucking stupid, my key was literally the word track:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The remaining clues were:

Clue 3: Stop! You'll need a key to pass through. What is my action?
Clue 4: Have you ever heard of the phrase, the sum of two halves?
Hint 4: (Sum and add the 2 numbers dodo)
Clue 5: Now find that post!

Pretty sure it led to copcake's first post or something, I don't remember.

Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:25 GMT
#1626
On October 04 2019 02:22 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 02:19 Holyflare wrote:
I've been nothing but courteous the entire game to you, cake. Even when I thought you were essentially confirmed mafia I gave you the benefit of the doubt and talked to you.

At least provide the same decency to me and play the game.


I know and I enjoy playing with you

I just think you are mafia with shockey because you have lied so many times and I cant even see how shockey is “cleared” or how this is a “town game” from his part when he has been changing his reads like underwear.

Even HIS breadcrumb says “HF or Cake are going to get killed so mafia can blame me the next day” and yet he still calls me mafia...

Doesnt compute.


I have not lied this entire time other than today to get reactions. That is just because I didn't want to be revealed today but branch forced me and all I had was that you went nowhere so I thought actually following through with branch's post might net me mafia. I have literally no reason to do any of this as mafia, none. I'm a town read, I was saved and blocked kp tonight(!) and I could just say it was a fake claim.

Everything I do is for information.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:27 GMT
#1628
On October 04 2019 02:25 CopCake wrote:
Also you know this is my town game, like the drawing mafia one.

I will always rely on actions and give all possible scenarios.

If you want to lynch GB go ahead. I think he is a town but that is me.

I am just tired to be right like last game with jock and everyone told me “oh no he is just this nice always” and he ended up to be mafia.

So yeah? Will i have another “I was right and no one followed me”?

If GB flips town I personally wont move my vote from you.



Do what you want tomorrow but you need to vote GB today so mafia can't potentially win if you're town.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:30 GMT
#1629
On October 04 2019 02:26 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2019 02:20 CopCake wrote:
On October 04 2019 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2019 02:10 CopCake wrote:
Yeah because calling you mafia makes me mafia.


You are ignoring my questions. I still don't even know why you're calling me mafia. You're calling me mafia and are just idly sitting by on shockey. Not trying to convince anyone to do anything.

I will ask you one last time. Why are you chosing to ignore what I actually said about my breadcrumb? Why are you not reading anything in the thread? Why did you ignore everything I wrote about GB's motives.

Why are you voting off wagon with 2 confirmed blues on it when you know town has to consensus vote today?


Can you quote me the explenation of your breadcrumb?

I am at work and I cant filter dive.

I got the idea of you being mafia yesterday when I woke up to get water and decided to check the thread and then it came to my mind “How did HF got to know GB got targeted if he is tracker”

Then my theory of HF + Shockey team made sense.

Either way if it makes you happy Ill vote GB but if he flips town you die the next day.

Your reasons to mafia read him do not satisfy me.

“He wouldddddf have yelled i aammmm mafiaaaa always he goes long ways tooooo proveee it he is trying to buddy meeee look at his gif he knows i am towwwnn”



I did not know gb got targeted at all. Branch literally posted that he went to GB and I ran with it. I tracked you.

On October 03 2019 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
My n1 check was copcake and she went nowhere. I was deciding between copcake and GB and just flipped a coin, deal with it.

The clues I've been dropping all day was because I made my breadcrumb the most elaborate fucking thing I could think of that was like an 8 layer deep mafia misdirection. It makes it look like I say something regarding GB and TS so that mafia may shit themselves and shoot me (which apparently they did, whether it's because of the crumb I don't know) but if you look into the "game" I was posting today, it should reveal the puzzle.

The clue was a quote from Nietzsche. I used a Nihilist cipher with a key that decoded that phrase into digits. If you add up the digits they lead to a post from Copcake. I thought she was looking a bit more towny just before n1 ended but I was out and couldn't be bothered to change my check last minute.


On October 03 2019 04:45 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone doubts this they are fucking stupid, my key was literally the word track:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The remaining clues were:

Clue 3: Stop! You'll need a key to pass through. What is my action?
Clue 4: Have you ever heard of the phrase, the sum of two halves?
Hint 4: (Sum and add the 2 numbers dodo)
Clue 5: Now find that post!

Pretty sure it led to copcake's first post or something, I don't remember.



But your first breadcrumb says you knew Gb got targeted... the coincidence is... too much. Dont you think?


My first breadcrumb is literally 2 random names one I scum read and one a lurker who was also kind of scummy. It has TS's name in there but you're not saying oh you knew ts is scummy are you? It's just a coincidence that gb was actually targeted, I just put him there because I scum read him.

It was all misdirection. You're arguing that I had this breadcrumb and thus I must know who was targeted but you're not reading what that breadcrumb actually meant. It has GB and TS's names in there to throw off mafia but if you use the cipher it literally leads to your post. I picked the phrase and worked it into revealing who I actually tracked as a double bluff.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:33 GMT
#1631
Everyone has already told you this, it's very clear. There is quite literally no way for me to have made up that cipher as mafia about gb AND link it to who I actually tracked (you) just in the hopes I could reveal 3 cycles later that I actually tracked you nowhere and achieve absolutely nothing? That's about 100 layers too deep for me to ever care about.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:34 GMT
#1632
The key to the cipher is literally my role name.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:37 GMT
#1634
On October 04 2019 02:33 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Three Vote Count

FreezingFoot (5): HolyFlare, ShoCkeyy, Branch.AUT, Vivax, CopCake
Vivax (2): Tubesock, FreezingFoot, Tubesock, FreezingFoot
ShoCkeyy (0): Copcake, FreezingFoot, Tubesock
Tubesock (0): Holyflare, Branch.AUT, FreezingFoot, ShoCkeyy, FreezingFoot,CopCake, FreezingFoot
Holyflare (0): FreezingFoot

FreezingFoot is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Thursday, Oct 03 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



Quite a telling vote count.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:38 GMT
#1635
On October 04 2019 02:26 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2019 02:20 CopCake wrote:
On October 04 2019 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2019 02:10 CopCake wrote:
Yeah because calling you mafia makes me mafia.


You are ignoring my questions. I still don't even know why you're calling me mafia. You're calling me mafia and are just idly sitting by on shockey. Not trying to convince anyone to do anything.

I will ask you one last time. Why are you chosing to ignore what I actually said about my breadcrumb? Why are you not reading anything in the thread? Why did you ignore everything I wrote about GB's motives.

Why are you voting off wagon with 2 confirmed blues on it when you know town has to consensus vote today?


Can you quote me the explenation of your breadcrumb?

I am at work and I cant filter dive.

I got the idea of you being mafia yesterday when I woke up to get water and decided to check the thread and then it came to my mind “How did HF got to know GB got targeted if he is tracker”

Then my theory of HF + Shockey team made sense.

Either way if it makes you happy Ill vote GB but if he flips town you die the next day.

Your reasons to mafia read him do not satisfy me.

“He wouldddddf have yelled i aammmm mafiaaaa always he goes long ways tooooo proveee it he is trying to buddy meeee look at his gif he knows i am towwwnn”



I did not know gb got targeted at all. Branch literally posted that he went to GB and I ran with it. I tracked you.

On October 03 2019 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
My n1 check was copcake and she went nowhere. I was deciding between copcake and GB and just flipped a coin, deal with it.

The clues I've been dropping all day was because I made my breadcrumb the most elaborate fucking thing I could think of that was like an 8 layer deep mafia misdirection. It makes it look like I say something regarding GB and TS so that mafia may shit themselves and shoot me (which apparently they did, whether it's because of the crumb I don't know) but if you look into the "game" I was posting today, it should reveal the puzzle.

The clue was a quote from Nietzsche. I used a Nihilist cipher with a key that decoded that phrase into digits. If you add up the digits they lead to a post from Copcake. I thought she was looking a bit more towny just before n1 ended but I was out and couldn't be bothered to change my check last minute.


On October 03 2019 04:45 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone doubts this they are fucking stupid, my key was literally the word track:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The remaining clues were:

Clue 3: Stop! You'll need a key to pass through. What is my action?
Clue 4: Have you ever heard of the phrase, the sum of two halves?
Hint 4: (Sum and add the 2 numbers dodo)
Clue 5: Now find that post!

Pretty sure it led to copcake's first post or something, I don't remember.



But your first breadcrumb says you knew Gb got targeted... the coincidence is... too much. Dont you think?


It also doesn't say gb got targeted. It's a random assortment of letters including the words gb ts and nk. Branch just filled in the gaps.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:47 GMT
#1640
Maybe at flip. I doubt he just concedes like that but possible.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:54 GMT
#1646
I cannot wait
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:55 GMT
#1648
Rude. He independently scum reads you. Just like everyone else on this wagon.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:55 GMT
#1649
You're dying, no need to go out being a dick to people.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 17:57 GMT
#1651
On October 04 2019 02:56 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 02:55 Holyflare wrote:
Rude. He independently scum reads you. Just like everyone else on this wagon.


Not me.



Way to belittle his insult.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:01 GMT
#1656
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:03 GMT
#1659
This has not gone according to plan.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:04 GMT
#1663
I will do my best to sort it out tonight. I don't know if I'll live.

Branch please rng between saving me and offensively jailing someone.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:05 GMT
#1664
On October 04 2019 03:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Oh fuck wow I'm bad. God dammit HF.


??????

This is fake as fuck. You said you scum read GB first even.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:16 GMT
#1669
On October 04 2019 03:08 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2019 03:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Oh fuck wow I'm bad. God dammit HF.


??????

This is fake as fuck. You said you scum read GB first even.


I don't get why you lash out at him for that comment.


Because he blames me for a wagon he was on for his own original thought.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:33 GMT
#1675
Ok
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:34 GMT
#1676
Why exactly am I mafia now?
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:44 GMT
#1680
On October 04 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 03:34 Holyflare wrote:
Why exactly am I mafia now?


- Lied several times
- Do not want to lynch Shockey WHO is pretty much mafia and lynching him would clear you 100% or tell us if you could be mafia.
- Your reasons to mafia read GB

* REACTIONSSS
* HIS GIFFFFFFF
* FOLLOW ME OR YOU ARE MAFIA
* HE NEVER MISSES AN OPPORTUNITY TO CALL ME MAFIAAAAA


Pls, don't insult my intelligence.



I lied once, and you know the reason why.

I am fine with lynching Shockey.

My reasons to mafia read GB were fine and if it was another game with the same reasons I would lynch him again and again. Not once did anyone counter those points or prove why they were wrong, especially you who I asked to several times and you ignored me.

Don't know what the all caps parts are.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:47 GMT
#1681
I really really hate when people say shit all to do with you the entirety of the game while you're posting walls of text accusing someone and then suddenly when you're wrong and they flip town (which happens very very frequently) it's suddenly "wow, bad reasons, must be mafia" with absolutely no words in between. It's such a shit accusation and you should know better.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:48 GMT
#1683
Like, what's the fucking point of the game if not to make accusations at people that people rebut?
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:51 GMT
#1686
Even gb didn't think I was mafia lol.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:51 GMT
#1687
I will lynch shockey entirely for his post flip reaction.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:53 GMT
#1688
Cop, you're either mafia fabricating a narrative to do something or very much misguided. I am just going to ignore you if you continue to play this way instead of figuring out the rest of the game.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:55 GMT
#1690
On October 04 2019 03:54 CopCake wrote:
Like do not lecture me about “oh town could be mistaken” I know that, I have played with you and last game when we lynched Ewya and he was town I didnt call you mafia inmeddiatly.

You know I dont do that so do not tell me things like “what is the porpouse of the game” :p

I just think this time you are scum, you didnt listen to me, you just went blindly lynching GB for his “reactions”, something different from the Ewya case.

So nope.

Poe is: Shockey/HF/Vivax

The rest of the players are town.


That is not why I lynched him the slightest. You haven't read any of my reasons it looks like and I know you haven't for a fact because half of your posts during the last day are just asking questions and defending GB for points that I've already argued a mafia motivation for that you didn't think of.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:56 GMT
#1692
On October 04 2019 03:55 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
Cop, you're either mafia fabricating a narrative to do something or very much misguided. I am just going to ignore you if you continue to play this way instead of figuring out the rest of the game.


I am not making a narrative.

Such a shame TL mafia just blindy follow “pro players” than using their own brains.

Also werent you a tracker? I visited no one .


And? There's more than one mafia.

Aren't I mafia? I literally absorbed a KP.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 18:58 GMT
#1693
You are writing a narrative. You willfully ignore any and all evidence that is contradictory to your story in order to push through your version of events. I didn't scum read GB for his reactions, or at least, that wasn't what I initially called him mafia for, nor was it the only reason.

I had a long list of accusations and mafia actions that GB took and did that were mafia sided or had mafia motivations behind them. Each and every one I listed in the thread for everyone to talk about and discuss.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:00 GMT
#1695
You even say I lied multiple times, when there was only ever one lie and that was because Branch forced my hand to claim and I wanted to run with his version of events for reaction reading.

You never ever highlight or expand on any of these points even when I ask you to prove them, you just keep repeating and repeating them and you will keep repeating them until you're blue in the face because without quotes and statements of where I lied multiple times to make your reaction so strong it's just baseless.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:02 GMT
#1696
On October 04 2019 04:00 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2019 03:55 CopCake wrote:
On October 04 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
Cop, you're either mafia fabricating a narrative to do something or very much misguided. I am just going to ignore you if you continue to play this way instead of figuring out the rest of the game.


I am not making a narrative.

Such a shame TL mafia just blindy follow “pro players” than using their own brains.

Also werent you a tracker? I visited no one .


And? There's more than one mafia.

Aren't I mafia? I literally absorbed a KP.


Or you were mafia that got blocked...


So the scenario is that I claim blue when I didn't need to and be really really townie for extending the cycle to mylo instead of lylo (as far as people were concerned at the time, I was not mafia and neither was I mafia with shockey) and I carry the KP when I'm basically the towniest person in the thread?

And my partner is shockey who is never getting JKed and I carry the kill?
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:03 GMT
#1697
Do you even think these things through?
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:06 GMT
#1700
I don't need you to. I don't really care if you call me mafia as long as you call me mafia but try and figure out the game as if I'm not. That's all I ask or want. I don't want to repeatedly have to ask you the same question until you finally respond and your response doesn't even answer the question I already asked and then you ignore me and call me mafia after anyway.

The same goes for vivax/tube/shockey. You three are literally the key to solving this game and you need to step up. Tube is the most silent assassin stereotype in this thread.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:12 GMT
#1702
Cop, just a quick question.

Summarise my reasons for lynching GB into a few bullet points for me. I'm really curious. Please respond asap.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:13 GMT
#1704
The longer it takes, the more I know you're rereading my filter to actually find out why I lynched him.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:13 GMT
#1705
On October 04 2019 04:13 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 04:12 Holyflare wrote:
Cop, just a quick question.

Summarise my reasons for lynching GB into a few bullet points for me. I'm really curious. Please respond asap.


I cant I am at work, cant filter dive.

But from what I remember

Reaaactiooonssss



Ok, you're mafia, goodnight.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:15 GMT
#1706
Imagine saying the only reason I lynched GB was reactions (what reactions? I don't even know) yet there's like 10 actual solid points I called him mafia for that were related to in game actions that were talked about AT LENGTH in the thread the entire last cycle.

Imagine complaining I wasted a day lying when I got information from that lie that I used to formulate reads but then when we actually talk about those reasons you don't even know what they are, you'd have to go check.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:17 GMT
#1708
You literally just said I'm mafia because I had no concrete points on GB but you don't even know what those points were to begin with. I'm mafia because I stopped us talking about reads for half a cycle but you don't even read the reads I post in the latter half of the cycle to know what I'm saying. You don't care about reads, all you did was sit on shockey the entire cycle!!!!
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:19 GMT
#1709
Nobody followed me because I'm a pro player, they read my god damn posts and they had to sheep the wagon so we literally didn't lose the fucking game if there's 3 people here. YOU VOTED ON THE SAME WAGON.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:19 GMT
#1710
They did the smart thing of voting with the 2 blue roles we had to secure the lynch.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:23 GMT
#1712
Shockey: Independently came to the the read GB was mafia, made a post about it in the latter half of the cycle. Didn't sheep me.

Branch: Was afk, had to consolidate because his wagon of choice wasn't happening and I'm a blue and we need to stick together and my reasons on GB were solid enough that I believed them.

Vivax: Literally afk all game, gave reasons for why he thought GB was a good lynch himself.

You: Sheep right at the end of the day so we don't lose.

So, no, people on this wagon did not sheep me for reasons that I'm just a pro player. That is god damn insulting. They are people that have their own opinions and vote where they want. They consolidated so we literally didn't lose the game and they interacted with me the entirety of the time while you ignored me and tried to throw reasons that I was mafia into the thread the whole time... and then voted GB anyway.

Gb threw you an olive branch about 8 times to vote someone other than shockey and you flat out refused. That is on you.

I am sorry someone called you names this game, it was rude af, but that does not mean that you can insult the entire player base when you don't even have a place to stand on in this instance. This is simply just not true.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:24 GMT
#1714
Do not blame yourself for consolidating on a wagon we had to consolidate on. That is in no way your fault whatsoever.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:25 GMT
#1715
I am going to take a break from the thread, grab some food and start making cases.
Holyflare
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October 03 2019 19:27 GMT
#1717
I had a case on GB. Literally, posts outlining points that made him mafia in my eyes. You don't know what it is!!!!!!!!!!!
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 17:12 GMT
#1731
On my way home.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 17:15 GMT
#1733
You don't have to believe my claim but I claimed at a time where it would literally benefit me as mafia 0% and I claimed a track that benefits me 0% and I hard claimed a tracker through my ridiculously elaborate breadcrumb before I was even outed by branch which benefits me 0% as mafia.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 17:15 GMT
#1734
On October 05 2019 02:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
HF are you willing to lynch my target tomorrow?


Your target of what?

I'll be announcing my track at deadline just in case.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 17:18 GMT
#1736
Doesn't matter, still sending in track.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 17:24 GMT
#1739
I think mafia have an interesting choice. Do they rb me or you? If they rb you I get a track. If they rb me you might get a block or save. Maybe they don't rb at all. I like those odds.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 17:25 GMT
#1741
On October 05 2019 02:23 Branch.AUT wrote:
Do you think Copcake is mafia?


About 35% chance.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 17:41 GMT
#1748
I literally don't remember a single game we're in together. I don't even remember the last game I played. This works both ways. You've tried to manipulate my claim to mean something it didn't and never listened to evidence from anyone, literally even gb said you were wrong.

There is town tunneling and then there is pushing something that is blatantly wrong for the sake of it even though it's factually incorrect. You are very much the latter.

This is all late game stuff and that is why it's 35%. You've completely gone down hill since d2 with absolutely no explanation. I needed someone to bounce ideas on and reads and instead of doing that you sat in the lynch shockey corner just waiting to blame me for GB being lynched.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 04 2019 17:42 GMT
#1749
Your last post is such a fake statement too "ah when he said 35% that told me he was mafia"

Soooo fake. You've called me mafia non stop the entire night, likewise I have called you mafia too.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 17:44 GMT
#1751
You have literally not told me why he is mafia since your case which I disagreed with other than the fact he sheeped his scum reads.

What is the case?
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 17:44 GMT
#1752
Where were you pushing big cases yesterday?
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 17:47 GMT
#1755
On October 05 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2019 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
Your last post is such a fake statement too "ah when he said 35% that told me he was mafia"

Soooo fake. You've called me mafia non stop the entire night, likewise I have called you mafia too.


And it is so anti town to say that you could be mafia because you COULD?

If shockey is mafia?

When I suggested “lets lynch shockey so we clear HF” ?

Nope.


Stop misdirecting everything. Why did you just say I confirmed myself mafia as if it was a revelation when you've been calling me mafia all night?
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 17:48 GMT
#1756
On October 05 2019 02:47 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2019 02:44 Holyflare wrote:
Where were you pushing big cases yesterday?


All yesterday was you with oh nooooo pls lynch GB because I know this is his mafia game, the way he swinged votes, the reactions, etc etc.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and sheeped you, thinking if I wasnt watching something.

But alas, I was right.

I blamw myself for that tho.


So what is the case I'm supposed to be following on shockey? Why on earth would I lynch shockey when I'm near CONVINCED GB was mafia?
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 17:51 GMT
#1757
Look at the people in the game that care.

Vivax/tube/shockey sit there sniping comments while everyone else does work and makes cases.

Yet you call me mafia with shockey meaning you town read 2 of those people. Please say something believable for once.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 04 2019 17:57 GMT
#1758
I've got to go out. I tracked vivax.

Good luck.

Don't blindly trust cop if I die.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 04 2019 18:06 GMT
#1763
Gg

I was rbd.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 18:12 GMT
#1764
That means cop didn't send kill at least.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 19:12 GMT
#1769
On October 05 2019 03:47 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2019 23:16 Grackaroni wrote:

In the case of conflicting roleblocks, the mafia Roleblocker's action will take priority over Town Jailkeeper/Roleblocker. (Suppose the Mafia Roleblocker has roleblocked the Town Roleblocker and vice-versa, but the Mafia Roleblocker is also carrying the night kill, then the Mafia Roleblocker's roleblock will go through first and the night kill will be unimpeded.)

If only one Roleblocker is roleblocked, then the roleblocked Roleblocker's action will not go through.
(Suppose the Town Roleblocker/Jailkeeper has roleblocked the Mafia Roleblocker, and the Mafia Roleblocker has roleblocked a Cop. Then the Mafia Roleblocker's action will not process and the Cop will get a check.)

Town can no lynch
Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players.


If HF and Branch are actually blue, why would mafia that has a living RBer keep HF alive?

Further, rbing anyone other than Branch allows for him to possibly jk whomever is carrying the kill. There’s no way competent mafia would risk that. I’d RB Branch for days and kill people who are actually posting.

##Vote: Holyflare


You literally answer this in your own quote.

I was rbed because there is simply no fear from a town jk rb if it supersedes it and if copcake is town then she is literally the only one in the thread talking about lynching another town (me).

I can't believe your accusation that I am mafia is why did they kill a jailkeeper that has a confirmed role lol, how opportunistic.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 19:15 GMT
#1770
I also never defended vivax, unless you mean 2 of my top scum reads were both trying to lynch him while I scum read the fuck out of GB and the other (you) sat in the shadows not saying a word after having been called out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 04 2019 19:25 GMT
#1771
On October 05 2019 03:28 CopCake wrote:
Btw HF I wont fight anymore.

My will was broken before and so I dont want to argue.

I will lynch myself because is not fun to play a game with people that will just blindy sheep you.

The only person that doesnt is tubestock.

And vivax... he is shady as hell so I dont trust.


Don't do this. I want to win, so please play. It's not true that people just blindly sheeped me and they don't do it because I'm a vet. They do it because I'm the only one that actually talks and provides content over and over again and speak forcefully. There's a big difference.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 19:26 GMT
#1773
If you had to sum up the candidates that have been talked about being lynched by people over the night, who are they Tubesock?
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 19:38 GMT
#1775
So not me then is what you're saying? Have you actually even read the night? It's entirely just copcake on a tirade against me and shockey. I've apparently dodged lynching shockey because I'm mafia with him. If shockey is mafia, who is keeping him alive? Me. Apparently.

Who is shockey going to get lynched as an endgame play? Copcake, someone else and the only way to facilitate that is essentially through me. Why would he kill me when he can just rb me?

If shockey is mafia and kills me off and just RBs branch. Who is going to support shockey? Everyone is essentially calling him mafia.

If you or vivax are mafia (quite likely) then you kill me after rbing branch and then what? What clout do you have to push anyone in the thread. Especially if you're mafia with someone like shockey too. Your play would likely be to capitalise on the only active transgression in the thread (copcake vs me) by exacerbating it, which is essentially what you are doing.

I guess this leads to shockey and you being mafia :D
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 19:38 GMT
#1776
That's without even saying that people don't believe my claim for some reason vs someone who is confirmed town (tbh in my eyes I should be confirmed town).
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 19:42 GMT
#1777
I can't be much more open than I've been this game (other than the tracker thing). All I care about is being correct.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 04 2019 19:46 GMT
#1778
Copcake get your butt back here. I am going to call you town and you are going to convince me shockey is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 04 2019 21:09 GMT
#1787
Can we no lynch?
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:10 GMT
#1788
oh nvm 3v2
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:11 GMT
#1789
I appreciate the irony of tubesock calling me mafia for not lynching vivax and now him buddying vivax in lylo and saying he might be lazy town.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:12 GMT
#1790
Tube did you scum read shockey last cycle?
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:31 GMT
#1798
On October 05 2019 06:15 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2019 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
I appreciate the irony of tubesock calling me mafia for not lynching vivax and now him buddying vivax in lylo and saying he might be lazy town.


Let me ask you a fair question

How often do we fight on games for having different reads?


I have quite literally 0 idea.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:35 GMT
#1799
On October 05 2019 05:01 Tubesock wrote:
I think they should be more skeptical of you.

And to be fair, CopCake can’t get her lynch, I can’t, Shockeyy can’t and I’m pretty sure Vivax can’t either. So I don’t see why they would keep you alive as you’ve basically called everyone mafia in the last day or two. So right now you’re unpredictable which is more dangerous if you were town.

On October 05 2019 06:21 Tubesock wrote:
I still think shockeyy or Vivax are mafia. I’m not buddying him that’s ludicrous, I said it’s possible he is lazy town and that’s why I’m voting HF now instead of Vivax.

On October 05 2019 06:22 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2019 06:12 Holyflare wrote:
Tube did you scum read shockey last cycle?


Yes. Still do.



So this first post was quite literally bs? "Copcake can't get her lynch"

Why can't she get her lynch if you scum read shockey, copcake scum reads shockey, branch scum read shockey and I had thrown him in a scum list for a while and I am pretty sure vivax just called him mafia too? This looks amazingly like you creating the false narrative of "Oh, hf is alive, must be mafia" just so you can place a vote.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:37 GMT
#1800
In fact, it's even funnier when you think back to last cycle when copcake was the sole person on shockey or whatever and it was literally just gb and you on vivax but both you and GB scum read and would have lynched shockey, as well as several other people. But you think there's a chance that vivax is lazy town.

So, what has changed that vivax becomes lazy town and shockey is mafia and why didn't you vote him last cycle?
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:38 GMT
#1801
##vote shockey

put your money where your mouth is
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:39 GMT
#1802
It's lylo and everyone in the game has posted some semblance of a read or critical thinking bar shockey.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:47 GMT
#1804
uh huh
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:48 GMT
#1805
It's a bit shit but I have ogi reasons to think vivax is probably town, that's why I didn't lynch him.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:48 GMT
#1806
As well as both of you and GB being on him. The culmination of it all was farrrrrr too convenient.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:49 GMT
#1808
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I KNEW IT LOL

tubesock/shockey confirmed
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:49 GMT
#1810
the fucking hypocrisy hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:49 GMT
#1811
On October 05 2019 06:49 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2019 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
On October 05 2019 06:15 CopCake wrote:
On October 05 2019 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
I appreciate the irony of tubesock calling me mafia for not lynching vivax and now him buddying vivax in lylo and saying he might be lazy town.


Let me ask you a fair question

How often do we fight on games for having different reads?


I have quite literally 0 idea.


But do we fight?

Have we fought in the past?


I told you, I don't even remember last game lol.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:49 GMT
#1812
I fight with most people so probably?
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:50 GMT
#1813
tubesock has just outed himself with shockey cake
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:55 GMT
#1816
Case:

  • Terrible reasons to scum read me today.
  • Made up a reason to push for my lynch, saying that why would mafia leave me alive when nobody could get their lynch.
  • Scum reads shockey, as well as most people in this game but said "Copcake can't get her lynch that's why you're unpredictable and alive so mafia" which is absolutely not true when most people scum read shockey today.
  • Says he scum read vivax yesterday as well as shockey.
  • Could have joined you with GB on shockey yesterday and you probably would have lynched him.
  • Vivax now could be lazy town.
  • Won't vote shockey even though he scum reads him :D :D for no reason other than I'm advocating for his lynch.
  • Calls me scummy for not lynching vivax for EXACTLY THE SAME REASONS AS HE WON'T LYNCH SHOCKEY
  • Has sat back in the shadows literally the entirety of the game until lylo where he's been the most active today consecutively today than he has in the entire game and it's literally to just push an agenda that is not critically thought out or reasoned. What is the scum read on me for other than I'm not dead when there's a flipped jk dead?

Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:56 GMT
#1817
On October 05 2019 06:53 Tubesock wrote:
You have to try to nitpick as if me saying you defending Vivax was some big part of why I’m voting you. It isn’t.


What were those reasons you were voting me again? It appears to me to literally just be nk wifom lol.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:56 GMT
#1818
Literally the only person I am mafia with is shockey and you won't vote him. JUICY.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 21:57 GMT
#1819
I have the biggest justice boner right now. All of my flaming retribution will be poured into lynching your mafia agenda. Feel my fiery vengeance.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 22:10 GMT
#1821
On October 05 2019 07:04 Tubesock wrote:
You’re misconstruing everything. The only accurate thing you said is it could be called nightkill wifom. The rest is bullshit.

And how can you say I’m hypocritical by saying you defended Vivax implying you’re mafia with him, and the only person you’re mafia with is Shockeyy? How does that logic worth. I’ve said many times it could be shockeyy or Vivax with you.

And it isn’t just nk wifom. I don’t believe there’s 2 blues in 9 player game. You also haven’t done anything mafia HF wouldn’t also be able to do. Your claim was far more elaborate than town HF would bother with. Mafia!HF needs an elaborate claim. You constantly claim I don’t buy for a second that town!HF would say “I had to make it elaborate so town would accept it”


What exactly have I misconstrued. This is just a baseless statement. Quote a post where I misconstrued what you said and prove I did it. I will wait for eternity for this because I have literally done nothing of the sort. I even just scoured your filter for mentions of shockey or ANY scum reads at all and it is the most lackluster thing I have ever read in my life. Your scum list was essentially 3 lurkers for the entirety of the game.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 22:18 GMT
#1822
It's really QUITE obvious why I'm not mafia. Mafia holyflare wants the easiest game possible. He wants to kill everyone that talks, make life easy so he can be lazy and not draw needless attention to himself because his worst feeling when playing mafia is writing massive walls of text to dazzle people.

I would never in a million years think of a fake claim of a tracker in a mini if no kp happened n1, that's ludicrous. I don't even think it's balanced at all, even with a mafia rber and whatever else they have (probably a wanderer or something).

Then, on d2 when I could literally kill shockey (if he's town) and boxerfred and bring the game to lylo I instead opt to vote for the modkilled player and plan to drag the game and extend it for 2 more cycles by no lynching the next day. This is something I would only ever do if shockey is directly my mafia partner, never in any other circumstance would I do that.

Then I would have had to have made the absolute dumbest mistake in history n2 and literally hard claimed blue with a breadcrumb that I'm tracker in the thread AND SEND THE KP FROM ME INSTEAD OF SHOCKEY OR VIVAX??????????????????????????????????????? loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. What planet do I live on where I ever let that happen????

Have you ever been in a mafia holyflare game where 1 player has died the entire game? No, neither have I.

If I'm mafia with vivax I never ever in my life defend that guy. He's the scummiest guy and the easiest to get cred from. I just truly have ogi information that he might be town and didn't want to lynch him when he has a not tiny amount of posts.

Then there's the fact I lynch GB over literally anyone else because I just want to be right.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 22:20 GMT
#1823
And to explain why I would never do that as a mafia hf, we just have to come full circle to your really awful argument. "Why is hf alive?!". What a bastion of intellectual summary that is, like I have never been left alive by mafia ever before, especially with my reads as they are.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 22:26 GMT
#1824
Tubesock shockey references:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 28 2019 02:10 Tubesock wrote:
I’m probably voting Eywa. He’s the least towny of the two with votes. I do think Vivax and Shockeyy are townish too.


Town shockey.

On September 28 2019 02:16 Tubesock wrote:
What do people think of CopCake?

I’m 180 on their reads. Not sure how someone can town Boxer, and don’t like the Vivax, Shockeyy, Branch team.


Doesn't like shockeyy in a scum team (because he town reads him)

On September 28 2019 02:42 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 02:31 CopCake wrote:
I mean Shockey feels fake as fuck about his “happiness” to see GB.

Do they have history or something?

I mean when I saw him the first thing that came to my mind was “ugh that dude who bussed his mafia partners to win” but since I am town I have to be impartial and he seems extremely laid back and towny, doing towny things without being too paranoid. Add the fact that he hasnt played in some time so seems like he is happy to get a role that doesnt make his ass work that much.


Why would mafia fake enthusiasm for GB’s return?


Defends shockey from an accusation from copcake.

On September 30 2019 01:01 Tubesock wrote:
Mafia probably Branch, Boxerfred, and Shockeyy.

None are moving the game forward. Everyone else seems to be trying.


Suddenly becomes mafia just for not moving the game forward. Notice all the other 2 were lurker towns, very easy to just throw a partner in.

On September 30 2019 01:12 Tubesock wrote:
I don’t mind Shockeyys attitude towards CopCake. So I’m down to Boxer and Branch.


Town again lol.

On September 30 2019 02:06 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 01:57 CopCake wrote:
Could someone please check Shockey and see the natural flow of his reads ~?



It seems natural towards you. I don’t see why he scumreads me over Boxerfred.


Nothingness.

On September 30 2019 02:30 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 09:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 29 2019 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
I guess I shouldn't have returned. Only cake has even quoted something I've written and argued points with me. The rest of you just pointlessly comment and afk again and you enable mafia to just skate by doing nothing each and every game.

This will absolutely be my last game here.



The pool has also gotten smaller. The more people involved, the more conversations, it's also the weekend, assuming everyone is busy like myself. Currently packing for a work trip. But either way, I'm around and always checking, and trying to at least phone post which isn't the best to use to debate.

I think you asked me earlier what my town reads were and so far,

Vivax seems like a good town read. I would also say yourself HF is a good town read. GB is like 60/40 for me while CopCake is 50/50 still.


What specifically makes Vivax a good town read?


Literally a question to shockey that gets no follow up or answer or response to.

On October 01 2019 02:16 Tubesock wrote:
I still think it’s in Boxer, shockeyy, or Branch.


shockey mysteriously appears in the scum list again with nothing changed in between and has to be asked for reasoning

On October 01 2019 02:29 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 02:20 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:16 Tubesock wrote:
I still think it’s in Boxer, shockeyy, or Branch.


Oh you already answered.

Could you reason your reads?


Some OMGUS, and how he pretty much only has me as his scumread but hasn’t done anything to push me or figure out my alignment at all. He simply omgus’ Copcake defensively and nothing else. He has t progressed the game forward in any way.

Branch is deliberately being uncooperative.


the reasoning is omgus and the same reason he mafia read him before but he was REMOVED from that mafia list so the non-progression of the game should have been counteracted previously by something shockey did, yet that was clearly forgotten here

On October 02 2019 07:54 Tubesock wrote:
I’m back.

I think GB is lock town, HF is tracker but I have no idea why he wouldn’t outright claim it, and Branch is jk.

So that leaves Cop, Vivax and Shockeyy. I’m pretty confident Cop is town. If HF is mafia, that was a kick ass play.



this is literally the same scum list most of the game and it was basically just lurkers (hint: town reads me here really hard, conveniently forgot about that didn't he?)

On October 03 2019 06:25 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 06:23 Branch.AUT wrote:
Copcake, what does it take for you to stop this immense tunnel on shockeyy?


Probably for Shockeyy to do something towny. So far he’s “uh I’m town yo!”

On October 03 2019 06:28 Tubesock wrote:
Hmm. If Shockeyy and HF were mafia, then I can see Shockeyy not voting to save himself.


Pointless conspiracy of something that would never in a million years happen. Don't think shockey was even around at deadline to vote to be honest (I checked and posted about it) but Tubesock doesn't do any research into this so throws it out as a tinfoil for no reason.

On October 03 2019 06:58 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 06:53 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 06:23 Tubesock wrote:
I don’t think GB is scum.

It is completely rational and logical to be skeptical of HF’s claim. I mean he’s HF. Plus, 2 blue roles in a 9 player game seems pretty unbalanced. Not impossible, but I think unlikely. If HF were mafia, he 100% would make some breadcrumb that’s unquestionable like this.

But would mafia!HF carry the kp N2? And why would mafiaHF prolong the game by voting Boxerfred? I don’t see mafia!HF doing that. So, I think this is town!HF.


1) Yes, especially after he claimed blue during night.

2) To gain towncred


He claims blue truthfully and falsely fairly often at night.

It could be for towncred, but I think he had plenty already and I don’t think it’s worth not killing 2 people with. Unless Shockeyy is mafia. Which I am warm too. If I move from Vivax it’ll be to Shockeyy.

On October 03 2019 07:04 Tubesock wrote:
Ok, but what do you think of Vivax?

##Unvote
##Vote: Shockeyy



Votes shockey for about 2.5 seconds before switching to vivax with nobody after shockey posted nothing but conspiracy.

On October 03 2019 07:41 Tubesock wrote:
Vivax is a better lynch.





Really very lacking, unexplained reads. The one explanation that is provided is omgus and shockey flips from town to mafia to town and back to mafia for no reasoning at one point. Tubesock's play this game can be summarised as textbook of what reads not to make as mafia. Omgus reads, a full on lurker scum list, why is this player not dead, not pushing game forward so mafia.

I do not think any read he has had this entire game is anything other than surface level drivel.
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 22:32 GMT
#1825
I'll check shockey's tube reads next
Holyflare
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October 04 2019 22:44 GMT
#1827
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 28 2019 23:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Good night since it’s night phase. I think copcake or tube are mafia, change my mind.


First mention of tube, directly after I sub in. Has not mentioned him for the entirety of the first cycle and he thinks he's mafia.

On September 29 2019 04:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 04:11 CopCake wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You essentially ignored Branches question, I’m positive you couldn’t have missed it unless it was done on purpose and you actually have no reason and are trying to save your mafia partner?!?


So tell me, now that you saw that Ewya flipped town, am I still mafia?


Idk? It’s 50/50. You’re the scummiest so far in my reads however. Between you and Tube


There is no reasoning in either of these posts as to WHY tube is mafia.

On September 29 2019 04:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
At least I’m posting? Lol... Boxer and Tube haven’t posted. And I’ve played on mafia team before with boxer and that’s his style as mafia. The no kill tonight was odd in general, problably afk, so I can assume that part of the mafia team is within the people that didn’t vote the first day.


Turns out it's also just a lurker lynch.

I haven't been caught up to the game as much, but I'm sure you are, and if we want to test this theory that you're not mafia or I'm not mafia, I'll sheep your second opinion. I already told you who my next two guesses are in mafia, Tube/Boxer, and I've given my reasons for them, but after remembering the early game, I think about GB's switch to Branch.


The appeal post to cop where he says his reads are tube/boxer and he'd lynch them but conveniently slips in about gb's switch to branch.

On September 30 2019 23:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 23:25 Branch.AUT wrote:
On September 30 2019 23:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 30 2019 23:11 Holyflare wrote:
Just so you know, it's against the rules to talk about your coach in the thread so you're basically confirmed town. Don't waste a vote on me, especially if you like the content I've produced? I don't know who I'm supposed to be yelling at to lynch because I've been pretty vocal about lynching gb until his return.


How is he confirmed town, we all knew he was getting a coach, he asked for it lol. I would expect mafia to be able to get a coach too, why just town?

Hey! it just occured to me, that you havent shared a scum read on anyone for a long long time. Whos your top scumread right now?


I'd say Tube, then Boxer then CopCake


Same list for 100% of the game so far.

On October 01 2019 00:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
But in all honesty, lets say boxer doesn't flip, who does that lead us too? I mean it doesn't change my read on Tubesock, I personally think he's the scummiest out of everyone since he's been the only active one.

As I said yesterday:

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 08:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

FreezingFoot (2): Holyflare, Tubesock
Boxerfred(1): Tubesock, Vivax
ShoCkeyy(1): CopCake
Tubesock (0): Vivax
Branch.AUT (0): Holyflare
CopCake (0): Vivax

Not Voting (4): Branch.AUT, Boxerfred, Shockeyy, FreezingFoot

FreezingFoot is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Monday, Sep 30 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



If you exclude Branch and I from the not voting list, it leaves you Boxer + Freezing, Tube jumps on the Freezing train because he knows that may never go off with how others are targeting people such as myself. Copcake is just chasing after me because they hate me no matter what and would just rather see me lynched. Not a good townie, but understandable.


More reasons for tube to be mafia.

On October 01 2019 12:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I'm lynching GB next. Dude is playing ya'll. Only reason GB would of switched to boxer like that last minute is knowing that boxer was town, and knowing I'm an easy lynch for the following day.

On October 01 2019 12:17 ShoCkeyy wrote:
It has to be Tubesock and GB in a team. The third is between Vivax, Cop Branch or HF. But at this point, I highly doubt its HF or Vivax. So I'm left with Branch and Cop. We'll see once the night is over


Diverts to GB being mafia. The bad part here is that he says GB is mafia for not voting him but doesn't put any meat behind this read. GB said he was following my plan so what is different here that made Shockey think GB wasn't gonna follow it? (Could be baseless point depending on when GB said fuck the plan, I remember it was fairly early after the lynch).

On October 02 2019 04:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So Tube and GB are team together? like I called earlier? Bahahahah.... I'm starting to think the team is Tube/GB/Cop easy.


Does he really believe in 3 mafia? He seems to switch between 2 or 3 depending on what fits his needs.

On October 02 2019 06:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 06:12 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 06:10 Holyflare wrote:
We kill tubesock. Me being saved and the fact we lynched bf means we have a free lynch today. You will see he is mafia or a wandering towny. If he is town GB is one million % mafia.


I give up trying to reason with you, I'll just play the game and lynch mafia, then.


Vote TubeSock then. I know I am.


vote tube

On October 02 2019 10:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 10:08 Tubesock wrote:
On October 02 2019 09:52 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 09:46 Tubesock wrote:
On October 02 2019 09:41 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 09:36 Tubesock wrote:
On October 02 2019 08:59 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 08:53 CopCake wrote:
The idea of a mafia not killing and blocking themselves with no idea if there is a tracker... is insane.



I also think that HF has been absurd, but it’s hard to believe he is mafia.

But it’s straightforward, if tubesock flips town we Lynch HF


No way man. HF is town, I really doubt he could orchestrate that crumb as mafia.


So, you’re saying you definitely visited me?


I believe I’m unknowing wanderer or whatever it’s called.


Hahahaha no way you can think that, Tube. If you’re VT and HF doesn’t claim right away you just vote him 100%


I can’t think that?

Haha well I guess we will find out pretty soon won’t we?


It's not that soon, we still have a full day to figure something out. Why Vivax Tube? Your filter doesn't really state why you think Vivax is scum.

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 00:51 Tubesock wrote:
I’m here for a little bit.

I don’t think we should kill any of the actives. HF, Cop, GB are likely all town. CopCakes seems to misread nearly everything, just look at what she just said to Vivax concerning me. GB has always said inconsistent things and been a bit wild when he’s town. As HF said, he always thinks he’s mafia.

As this is a 20 page game on D2, I think the odds of mafia being afk and forgetting to submit the nk are not insignificant. And further being such a low activity game, it’s even more likely mafia is lurking. So, why are we trying to kill the actives?


This is a post I looked up to because you and Vivax both said the same thing about CopCake misreading, and making fake narratives. To me it seems like you consistently thought Vivax was town until recent? Why the change?


What the fuck is this post. Does this look like how someone talks to someone he has scum read 100% of the game? He looked up to a post tube and vivax made but... he scum read tube n1.......


On October 03 2019 07:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 02:25 CopCake wrote:
On October 02 2019 02:17 Tubesock wrote:
My hesitation on Shockeyy is why didn’t he vote Boxerfred to save himself? He was dying until GB swapped, but could have just voted Boxer and not been in much danger.

I don’t think mafia would do that. Otherwise I disagree with everything he’s posted after D1.


But that would only mean that GB is mafia and tried to save Shockey.

Thing he has done in the past btw.


Tube makes a great point here

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 04:26 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 04:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So Tube and GB are team together? like I called earlier? Bahahahah.... I'm starting to think the team is Tube/GB/Cop easy.


YES SHOCKEY
WE ARE MAFIA TOGETHER
TUBESOCK VISITED ME N1 SO WE COULD HAVE A CUP OF TEA AND SHRIMP FLAVORED NOODLES AND LAUGH IN OUR COMFORTABLE MAFIA HOMES


If I want to believe tubes VT claim, then I'd replace Tubesock being his team mate here, and replace with the possible godfather role GB could be.

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:54 Tubesock wrote:
I’m back.

I think GB is lock town, HF is tracker but I have no idea why he wouldn’t outright claim it, and Branch is jk.

So that leaves Cop, Vivax and Shockeyy. I’m pretty confident Cop is town. If HF is mafia, that was a kick ass play.


Tube states that HF is possible mafia, and this is where it gets interesting since HF just mentioned he didn't actually track Tube, he was only setting up Tube to get lynched.

I totally can see an HF/GB mafia team.



tube vanishes from his scum list just because he claimed VT.........................................................................................................


He's been confirmed, that's why I keep jumping around different partners for him, and why I had my vote on tubesock, but as of late, I don't think Tube is mafia. I gave my reasoning on that already.



?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

On October 03 2019 12:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
FF && Cop || Tube.

Also sorry dude, I'm actually on east coast, but currently in the west coast


TUBE IS BACK ON THE LIST?????????????

On October 04 2019 02:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 02:13 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 04 2019 02:10 Vivax wrote:
That said, seems to fit into the picture that Tube being considered half dead, GB started bussing him, they push me both at the same time for reasons that would actually make sense if I weren't so busy lately.


You guys got it! I Mafia with tube
Hey tube, check our qt, I’m conceding!


Is the real? :D


believes gb conceded with tube??????



what the fuck

the last few posts of this filter are serious wtf material with read progression
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 04 2019 22:47 GMT
#1828
He has scum read tube for 100% of the game.

Then at one post he says he looked up to Tube/Vivax on D1 because they went after copcake posts. BUT N1 IS WHERE SHOCKEY SCUM READ TUBE. This looked like the most forced interaction post I have ever seen.

Then last cycle he miraculously drops this Tube 100% all game scum read just because tube claimed VT. Says he doesn't scum read tube, then puts tube back on the scum list out of the blue with absolutely NOTHING in between that he says to alter his opinion otherwise.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 04 2019 23:02 GMT
#1830
sorry to hear

hope you feel better
Holyflare
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 04 2019 23:03 GMT
#1831
if you need someone to talk to feel free to send me a pm
Holyflare
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October 05 2019 02:12 GMT
#1833
feel kind of shitty even pushing him now
Holyflare
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October 05 2019 19:12 GMT
#1839
Meh feel free to vote me if you want to end the game early. Not particularly in the mood to push a guy who's in a struggle or two lurkers that don't do anything.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 05 2019 19:13 GMT
#1840
Glad to hear everything ok though!
Holyflare
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October 05 2019 20:53 GMT
#1843
Don't really care. Either tube is mafia or he just afks and leaves questions unanswered that make him look bad if answered. I choose to believe he's not bad and is mafia.

Shockey makes sense with their association reads (last page) but it's whatever. Wouldn't be mad if it's vivax/tube. My fault if it is.
Holyflare
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 05 2019 20:54 GMT
#1844
Thanks for making my last game enjoyable. Soz gb, I'll always lynch you :D
Holyflare
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 05 2019 21:13 GMT
#1847
Nah, it definitely is. Not much is gonna change here. Nobody really talks about cases or points anymore and we end up with 3 lurkers who you can't determine which one is mafia because who knows. I even spent like the last page filter diving and coming up with stuff and what has happened since then? Nothing.

I don't blame any of you, life is busy stuff and you're all cool people but it's not fun to invest so much of your time into something just to have people not reciprocate and play the game with you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 11:19 GMT
#1856
Even the hosts have given up lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 13:41 GMT
#1860
Still not mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 13:42 GMT
#1862
Yo I unvoted
Holyflare
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:09 GMT
#1864
Tube isn't a bad vote. Just look where he's voting now.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:13 GMT
#1865
On October 02 2019 09:36 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 08:59 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 08:53 CopCake wrote:
The idea of a mafia not killing and blocking themselves with no idea if there is a tracker... is insane.



I also think that HF has been absurd, but it’s hard to believe he is mafia.

But it’s straightforward, if tubesock flips town we Lynch HF


No way man. HF is town, I really doubt he could orchestrate that crumb as mafia.



Your claim was far more elaborate than town HF would bother with. Mafia!HF needs an elaborate claim.



That should be damning enough.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:16 GMT
#1868
Nah I'll vote shockeyy, it makes sense that he's mafia and we have to be unanimous so mafia can't switch. But he's probably mafia with tube.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:17 GMT
#1870
So would mafia hf.
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 14:20 GMT
#1871
And this is what I mean by demotivating by the way. I'm posting quotes and the entire 2 pages ago is shockey + tube posts and not one person has quoted them or talked about them.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:20 GMT
#1872
Just get talked past and not interacted with and that's why we'll lose.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:22 GMT
#1874
On October 05 2019 02:57 Holyflare wrote:
I've got to go out. I tracked vivax.

Good luck.

Don't blindly trust cop if I die.


On October 05 2019 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
Gg

I was rbd.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:22 GMT
#1875
What do you mean you never saw tube?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:24 GMT
#1877
Looking at tube's town filters it's like night and day between this and those.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:25 GMT
#1878
On October 06 2019 23:23 CopCake wrote:
yet you are not voting vivax and think is tube?



This is exactly what I mean lol :D

You don't read!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:26 GMT
#1879
You need to go back to the start of today and read literally every single post. It's kind of insulting that you just ask these questions while saying you enjoy reading what I write because you've blatantly not read anything I've said.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:36 GMT
#1884
On October 06 2019 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2019 04:12 Holyflare wrote:
On October 05 2019 03:47 Tubesock wrote:
On September 05 2019 23:16 Grackaroni wrote:

In the case of conflicting roleblocks, the mafia Roleblocker's action will take priority over Town Jailkeeper/Roleblocker. (Suppose the Mafia Roleblocker has roleblocked the Town Roleblocker and vice-versa, but the Mafia Roleblocker is also carrying the night kill, then the Mafia Roleblocker's roleblock will go through first and the night kill will be unimpeded.)

If only one Roleblocker is roleblocked, then the roleblocked Roleblocker's action will not go through.
(Suppose the Town Roleblocker/Jailkeeper has roleblocked the Mafia Roleblocker, and the Mafia Roleblocker has roleblocked a Cop. Then the Mafia Roleblocker's action will not process and the Cop will get a check.)

Town can no lynch
Mafia cannot no shoot. If mafia fails to submit a shot, the shot will be randomized among town players.


If HF and Branch are actually blue, why would mafia that has a living RBer keep HF alive?

Further, rbing anyone other than Branch allows for him to possibly jk whomever is carrying the kill. There’s no way competent mafia would risk that. I’d RB Branch for days and kill people who are actually posting.

##Vote: Holyflare


You literally answer this in your own quote.

I was rbed because there is simply no fear from a town jk rb if it supersedes it and if copcake is town then she is literally the only one in the thread talking about lynching another town (me).

I can't believe your accusation that I am mafia is why did they kill a jailkeeper that has a confirmed role lol, how opportunistic.


I have problems with this

Yes it is true that the JK is more dangerous than the tracker but you are a pro player.


One is confirmed town. One is not. Why kill the not?

What if the scummiest person on their team is the Roleblocker and they don't know if they will even be able to rb the jk the next night?


Nk wifom is the worst kind of argument I can ever imagine.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:40 GMT
#1888
I talk with vivax a lot out of game and I've known him for like 7 years.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:44 GMT
#1891
On October 06 2019 23:43 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2019 06:55 Holyflare wrote:
Case:

  • Terrible reasons to scum read me today.
  • Made up a reason to push for my lynch, saying that why would mafia leave me alive when nobody could get their lynch.
  • Scum reads shockey, as well as most people in this game but said "Copcake can't get her lynch that's why you're unpredictable and alive so mafia" which is absolutely not true when most people scum read shockey today.
  • Says he scum read vivax yesterday as well as shockey.
  • Could have joined you with GB on shockey yesterday and you probably would have lynched him.
  • Vivax now could be lazy town.
  • Won't vote shockey even though he scum reads him :D :D for no reason other than I'm advocating for his lynch.
  • Calls me scummy for not lynching vivax for EXACTLY THE SAME REASONS AS HE WON'T LYNCH SHOCKEY
  • Has sat back in the shadows literally the entirety of the game until lylo where he's been the most active today consecutively today than he has in the entire game and it's literally to just push an agenda that is not critically thought out or reasoned. What is the scum read on me for other than I'm not dead when there's a flipped jk dead?



He joined the shockey train with GB and me.

He was also active when you said you trackdd him...


Read the vote thread for how long he kept his vote on shockey (5 minutes or something). And, no, he wasn't active.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:44 GMT
#1893
Jesus christ lol.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:45 GMT
#1894
It's like you're a tubesock fan for absolutely no reason when nothing he says is well argued just to angle to vote me at the end of it.

If you're mafia and doing this to angle a vote on me with tube, well played. It's working.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:47 GMT
#1895
What did I misconstrue? Even tube hasn't answered that and can't.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 14:56 GMT
#1898
Ok I'll let you catch up.

I think it should be really straightforward if you just look at n2. I claimed blue, got saved and no kp happened. Either I sent kp after claiming blue when my partner would be shockey, vivax, tube or cake who are never getting blocked by a jk or I'm just simply town and you're over thinking it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 15:08 GMT
#1900
On October 06 2019 23:58 CopCake wrote:
Like there are so many fair points why you could be nafia

* saved shockey and win town cred
* lied with the breadcrumb. What if you died? People would have lynched tubestock...
* during the whole fucking game you were against GB... fought me, fought everyone to get your lynch.
* suddenly i am town? Since when? After the GB flip you called me mafia lol.

Only in one world you are mafia and that is with shockey, i told you several times lynch shockey so we can have a 100% clear HF but nope.

I can see tube not voting shockey so we wouldnt have a clear HF but do not deny that in the eyes of an ignorant town who has to be careful you look also scummy as fuck.


Only makes sense if I'm with shockey BUT I claimed blue the same night AND got shot the same night. Why not just let someone that's not ridiculously likely to get saved carry kp?

I didn't lie with the breadcrumb, the breadcrumb literally meant nothing. And if it did get translated into something the names in the breadcrumb were gb who I massively scum read and tube who I scum read and is likely just mafia anyway.

I am always and will always be against gb because in my eyes everything he does looks illogical and anti town agenda. I would do the same next game even if he was town simply because anything that's illogical goes directly against my philosophy as a human being.

You had a chance to be mafia but it was lylo and while shockey/vivax/tube sat back and literally did nothing but snipe comments the whole time and afk you at least had some passion to call me mafia. I reason that's because you are much more invested in actually figuring things out and are more likely to be town.

I do not care if shockey dies.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 15:10 GMT
#1902
I would much rather lynch tube because he is by far the most mafia agenda person today but we have to vote unanimously.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 15:21 GMT
#1903
Think of it from tube's perspective. He scum reads hf/vivax/shockey.

The only person I could literally be mafia with is shockey otherwise it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense that I'd extend the cycle for 2 more cycles. Yet, he votes me and his excuse is nk wifom. The only way to confirm me possibly mafia is to lynch shockey who would quite easily get lynched since he's also scum read by everyone (especially you) but he doesn't do that at all.

Then you couple it with that post on Tube's read progression on shockey and how it doesn't make sense and it all adds up.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 15:26 GMT
#1906
Tomorrow is gonna suck if shockey is mafia :D
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 15:30 GMT
#1907
whichever one of vivax/tube is town needs to vote shockey
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 15:35 GMT
#1910
No, of course I'm not sure lol? None of them post anything.
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 15:35 GMT
#1911
I am most sure on tube.
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 15:58 GMT
#1917
On October 07 2019 00:37 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2019 00:35 Holyflare wrote:
No, of course I'm not sure lol? None of them post anything.


You are not sure shockey is mafia even if you think his posts are wtf?


I think his read progression on tubesock is scummy shit, yes. Can I ever be sure? No.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 16:01 GMT
#1919
Is this some great bait so we don't vote you??? what
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 16:39 GMT
#1933
The only way I'm ever mafia is with shockey lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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October 06 2019 16:41 GMT
#1934
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/551051-newbie-student-mafia-xxx?page=92#1827

If you read that tube and shockey make perfect sense together. Similarly, the post before it on tube is basically more of the same weird interactions.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 06 2019 17:07 GMT
#1940
Or shockey is mafia and they can't back out of it????
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 17:08 GMT
#1941
Or you're mafia with shockey. Which is increasingly more likely the more you post.
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 18:09 GMT
#1946
gg
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 18:30 GMT
#1951
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 18:50 GMT
#1954
Haven't rolled mafia in a really long time. Fuck you FF :D
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 18:56 GMT
#1956
On October 07 2019 03:54 CopCake wrote:
Why did you extend the day?


HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted
09-30-2019
02:16 PM ET (US)


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Pretty sure my maths works out right. Killing shockeyy who everyone wants to lynch and bf being modkilled would have got rid of 2 lynch baits for us and we'd be in the same position tomorrow but the focus would definitely be on you and tube. At least this way I can push that I was doing it for the good of the town and shockeyy is still alive to be lynched by everyone. No way they go for the mylo no lynch because townies are dumb.
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 18:57 GMT
#1957
My only goal for myself this game was to try and win with vivax alive.
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 19:03 GMT
#1958
ty for hosting
Holyflare
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October 06 2019 19:17 GMT
#1960
You were very towny lol, dunno how you got lynched!
Holyflare
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#1976
I don't live in London anymore but I could sure come down if you did!
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October 11 2019 00:34 GMT
#1992
voice is super chill and carefree, can at least sit in the channel and listen in
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