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On September 14 2019 08:28 Tubesock wrote: Gotta /out. The baby came two weeks early. Also, congrats! | ||
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On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote: Alright, what do you wanna talk about? I had the exact opposite reaction to boxerfred's opening. I don't think FF's answer to you was alignment indicative. Also, why are you townreading me and talking about me going full emo as scum? It seems that you're trying to justify a future shift of your read on me. This feels like you decided he is mafia before finding the arguments to it. This "perfect information" argument isn't convincing. I'd rather hear you now. Could you please share who his partner is? I'm not a good scum player. I am an okay scum player. To be fair, it's not really hard to detect me when I'm scum. I was lynched almost every game I played as scum. The point is: as scum, I usually act as a support. When I flip, people get everything wrong. Which is great  . But rest assured that I'm not scum in this game.(And if I was, I wouldn't be telling you this) Yes, you do, and this tunnel seems very fabricated. ##Vote: Eywa- This is a really bad post. Not only does it discredit Eywa's extra points on Branch (that Branch was saying Eywa was wrong, rather than mafia) but it also downplays exactly how he plays as mafia too. From what I remember of GB being mafia he's pretty good. | ||
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On September 27 2019 02:00 ShoCkeyy wrote: There it is, I’ll sheep GB this round. Eywa is all over the place in my eyes. Just trying to stick shit to the wall. I don't know what GB wrote in his bad post that warranted this sheep vote, please explain. On September 27 2019 02:29 CopCake wrote: I wouldnt touch Ewya this early tho GB Very random defending of Eywa. What has Eywa done that GB shouldn't be touching? On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote: Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game. And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo. I would say that GB is town. FF seems town. Vivax smells mafia. Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit. I am curious about one thing with you. And Ewya is null. ?????? Eywa is null and you can't read him but there's no point voting him because he was correct about rayn one time in another game? How on earth does this make sense unless you know he is town. What makes GB town here? I don't think he's really posted anything. Vivax mafia, why? Shockey meh, why? There's a bunch of fluff after this post from everyone that doesn't really get to the bottom of anything. GB buddies Vivax, "oh great post town buddy vivax" even though Vivax's post was just a mediocre accusation post. Only thing I actually like in GB's big quote wall is that he called out CopCake for what I said above. I don't think that absolves him though because it's easy to pick on unexplained reads and he hasn't pressured for a follow up at all. On September 27 2019 06:27 CopCake wrote: Ewya is town in my eyes now btw. I don't get this at all either. It seems like you were posturing to say this the whole time while Eywa posted nothing of much value in between. Please explain how you went from Eywa is null to Eywa is town. On September 27 2019 06:28 Tubesock wrote: i think I like GB the best so far. But it’s weird, I don’t agree with his read post. Probably just happy he is playing again. I’ve liked a couple things Vivax has said. Part of me wants to town Eywa- but I’m pretty certain it would be trivial for mafia!Eeya- to do what he’s been doing. As far as I’m concerned everyone else is probably mafia. I haven't seen Tubesock's name in the thread yet so I'm going to assume this is his first post and it's quite possibly the worst in the thread so far. GB is liked the most (town read or not?) but he doesn't agree with his reads and says maybe it's just because he's playing again... so not content based. Vivax has posted not much as far as I'm aware and what he has posted has kind of mimicked GB's posts so if he's town reading Vivax why is he not town reading GB for content similarly? Eywa is town or mafia, ok. Everyone is mafia, ok. Tubesock is mafia, free read for you all. On September 27 2019 06:31 CopCake wrote: I agree that being right one game doesnt make that person the owner of the absolut truth; nevertheless in a next game you should at least read his opinion. So I want to see his process, but rn he just acted as I remembered :D so I think he is town. Now I need to analyze his read correctly to see if I agree ^^. I don't see how you can reach this conclusion when you say: A) You can't read Eywa as either alignment B) He is acting as you remember him to act (presumably as town), which you said you can't read him as. On September 27 2019 06:54 CopCake wrote: I see Vivax as mafia, that is all you are going to get from me rn. And back to work. Detective GB, 🕵🏽♀️ since I think you are town, I hope we make a better team as townmates than mafiascummates. This is the only follow up to the reads list she posted earlier and is still since unexplained. On September 27 2019 11:56 ShoCkeyy wrote: Then there's also this: Lol... we haven't even got passed day one and Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eyes. I still think has a chance of being mafia. Soooo.... that's pretty quick to go from Null to Town. Just saying. A++ I really like Shockey's follow up and pressure to Cop in this page, won't let unexplained things drop and doesn't just fall off to being dismissed. On September 27 2019 13:06 FreezingFoot wrote: Ok, I've re-read the game and I think Eywa- is right about Branch. ##Unvote ##Vote: Branch.AUT I don't understand where this came from and is an extreme flip flop from the previous stance of "Eywa has circular logic and scum reads Branch for things after the fact." Even if you take what Eywa says at face value, that all that spam he was doing after his vote was a parody on cases (which GB didn't at the time) then what is Eywa's case. There isn't one, he left it up into interpretation and merely said he was scummy looking. So, it's just a pick on a low content poster bs case essentially that GB sheeps. On September 27 2019 14:04 Branch.AUT wrote: Here you claim you can't read eywa. Now hes town to you. Your willingness to buddy up to him. And even defend him, even though you freely admit you cant read this person makes zero sense. Afterwards you hand him a town read because of what? Don't know if I want to give credit to this since Shockey said it first? Maybe I will. On September 27 2019 16:00 Fecalfeast wrote: Can you give me some specific posts or thoughts that make him scummy to you or is it just a lame tone gut read What a professional, definitely town. On September 27 2019 18:22 Vivax wrote: in my opinion eywa got caught for his fallacy and tried to play dumb to not have to admit his mistake. if youre town you wouldnt replace your argumentation with the wolffy tone read and implicitly stick to your prpven wrong argumentation. i dont think my initial observation was so hard to understand that his first reaction was to point me to a Fecal post that was unrelated. so, lets lunch eywa plz. ##Vote: eywa What? Not sure what this even meant. You're saying he just put on bravado because he didn't want to admit he made up a case after his vote or what? You don't believe he thought Branch was scummy before his vote? On September 27 2019 23:07 ShoCkeyy wrote: Literally Eywa has nothing on Branch, there's barely any substance to just consider him mafia in the amount of time he does. This is why I grill you on Eywa over GB, GB is currently doing his normal self, and everytime we lynched GB he always flops as town. That's definitely an easy read. I'm questioning you because literally Eywa has no substance in his case against Branch to consider him mafia by the time he does. Then you come in with an extreme defense of "Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eye". I say Eywa is mafia than you, but if you keep defending him on lack of substance, might as well call you mafia as well. I will train this man in my image before my retirement, he will be the new me. On September 27 2019 23:15 CopCake wrote: And a “magia Eywa” would just throw a randol name and expect people to follow him? That is his mafia game? I am basing my read on interactions, if he changes his personality because early game I didnt see it, then his normal self showed off in the way he answered GB with the random list dot org page. Not saying he is right on his read, if you see I havent voted because my mafia read is Vivax. I dont see the “fallacy” Could you please point me what makes Ewya mafia? A bad read? Early game? Trying to take the charge of town? When we have other two “Veterans” to yell at each other? THIS IS A REALLY BAD POST REALLY REEALLLYYY BAD. HE DID THIS AND THEN YOU MADE A POST THAT SAID HE WAS NULL. NOW HE IS TOWN AND YOU'RE JUSTIFYING THE REASONS WHY WITH SOMETHING YOU SAID MADE HIM NULL. On September 28 2019 00:03 CopCake wrote: Boxer is town. ???????????????????????? On September 28 2019 00:08 CopCake wrote: Mafia pile for me is vivax, shockey and branch. ????????????????????????????????? On September 28 2019 01:30 FreezingFoot wrote: Yes. He is too focused on bashing on Eywa instead of actually scum hunt. If you check their interaction, Branch opted to just defend himself from Eywa, but not actually justifying his actions. He chose to discredit Eywa, and keeps on doing this. He only appeared again in the forums once I voted him. It seems his only concern is surviving. And re-reading Eywa, although I dislike how he is playing, I could see his tunnel coming from a town perspective. He could be town. This isn't true, especially as he was calling out Cake above so I'm dropping you to the almost bottom of my list tier. On September 28 2019 02:04 Tubesock wrote: Bleh I don’t have any scumreads. Nor posts. On September 28 2019 02:08 Tubesock wrote: I think you’re wrong here. Eywa scummed him before he did anything, there’s no actions to defend. Eywa essentially did what rayn did when he was my mason partner (scumread hydra before he posted) and Eywa scumread rayn for it too. Branch also dropped a couple reads so wasn’t always defending himself. It's a good point that I just made above but it's literally just an observation in an otherwise dire filter from Tube. Interesting that he uses it to defend Branch and push Eywa who has flipped town now. On September 28 2019 02:30 FreezingFoot wrote: I'm comfortable in calling CopCake town for now, boxerfred is being boxerfred and his opening sounded townie to me (gut feelings) I won't lynch these guys today What the fuck does boxerfred being boxerfred mean? Cop kind of explains her reads on this page. Branch looks mafia because of the asking about FF avatar thing and Shockey just looks fake with regards to GB? Meh, the shockey thing seems really like a stretch, Branch like a convenient excuse. On September 28 2019 03:42 CopCake wrote: Also anyone who says “b...b..but copcake your change of vote only means you knew the result” can go to my scumpile. Welcome me to your scum pile :D On September 28 2019 03:03 Grackaroni wrote: Day One Vote Count Eywa (3): Branch.AUT (3): Eywa, FreezingFoot, CopCake ShoCkeyy(0): FecalFeast (0): Not Voting (3): FecalFeast, Branch.AUT, Boxerfred Eywa has been lynched with 3 votes. Really appalling vote count. Basically nobody did anything at deadline, I have no idea who branch nor boxer would have voted if they were here. GB and Copcake both town read Eywa hard and at no point campaigned to vote anyone properly. Cake unexplained all reads, voted for Shockey because his GB early post was too friendly, that obviously would get absolutely 0 traction with anyone and I am pretty sure she knows that. GB has reasons to town read Eywa and scum read Branch but doesn't push for the branch lynch at all. On September 28 2019 04:31 FreezingFoot wrote: I already talked about it, I can't filter it right now. But essentially, Branch wasn't really committed to anything other than dismissing Eywa and defending himself. The only moment he came back to the thread and started playing a bit more was when I voted him and a wagon was actually being formed on him. I can understand a townie actually believing there was a scum slip and getting annoyed that people wasn't seeing what he was seeing. I don't think his attitude contributed, but I understood him. THIS IS NOT WHAT EYWA SCUM READ BRANCH FOR, HE EVEN SAID IT WAS A FAKE PARODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Town: Shockeyy - has said everything that I've thought while scrolling through the thread, good all around pressure, needs to up the GB pressure Null: Tube - yes, he was free mafia but now he is not free mafia because I didn't hate his posts towards the deadline, feel free to call me a gardener because this is a massive hedge Vivax - The posts on Eywa were very logical and Vivax like so the content is there but it's hard to tell with the thread being so shitty small. I'll see next cycle when I've spammed it. Branch - Meh, nothing really to say. I liked his early ignoring of Eywa's vote. I liked that he accused cake, although it was off the back of Shockeyy so not really enough to warrant a town read. Has been a bit underwhelming so will reread but I don't think he's been too bad. Mafia: Copcake - Eywa reads being inconsistent, unexplained reads most of the game and dodges when asked. Finally gives reasons and they're really flimsy. Something, something voted to save Eywa because she knew his alignment :D She justified her town read on Eywa with points that she said made Eywa null. I will make a case later to show. GB - ehhhhhhhh been massively mafia and then I kind of flip flopped a bit reading through but the after the lynch justification for Eywa being town that was completely and utterly wrong and didn't actually happen made him drop way way down to here again. Quite confident he is mafia in fact, he went after really low hanging fruit for 0 reasons other than no content to sheep Eywa even though he didn't even know what Eywa's points were. Absolutely no opinion on: boxerfred - Has he even posted? I don't legitimately remember anything and I just read the whole thread. Really fucking bad that GB has this guy as a gut town read. | ||
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On September 28 2019 09:31 CopCake wrote: Lol HF you are always good at reading me when you are town but now you are just making nosense. Better come and talk to me if you are town so I explain myself for like 483837272&/$7 time or go to scum pile. Oh I will GLADLY go to your scum pile  On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote: Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game. And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo. I would say that GB is town. FF seems town. Vivax smells mafia. Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit. I am curious about one thing with you. And Ewya is null. Here, you say Eywa is null. You say you can't read him correctly and that as EITHER alignment if you poke him he will be all "whatever" and not care about conversing with people. At no point do you state that he'd do something different as town that you could get a read on him one way or the other (you know, since you said you don't know how to read him correctly at all and pressuring him is worthless). On September 27 2019 06:27 CopCake wrote: Ewya is town in my eyes now btw. Now, you have him as a town read. On September 27 2019 06:31 CopCake wrote: I agree that being right one game doesnt make that person the owner of the absolut truth; nevertheless in a next game you should at least read his opinion. So I want to see his process, but rn he just acted as I remembered :D so I think he is town. Now I need to analyze his read correctly to see if I agree ^^. But here you say that he acted as you remembered. This is directly contradictory to what you've said. You couldn't read him as either alignment, you don't know WHAT makes him town or mafia so you have no basis to say "Now he just acted as I remembered so he's town." That doesn't make sense at all. On September 27 2019 06:43 CopCake wrote: I found odd he was being “nice” (specially to me, last game was something... rude) Then we went full rude to GB and I am like ok, this is what i expect. But now you've invented some meta that he's ONLY rude as town and not as mafia. If he can be rude as mafia (which he should be able to because you haven't ever said that you could determine the difference between his meta) then you can't possibly make this read without extra information about his alignment. On September 27 2019 22:41 CopCake wrote: Time passed. I couldnt read him before. Then I noticed “normal Ewya” and I was “ah he is town” But you are not asking me why I think GB is locked town sir. Similarly, there is no normal Eywa because you could not read him. On September 27 2019 23:15 CopCake wrote: And a “magia Eywa” would just throw a randol name and expect people to follow him? That is his mafia game? I am basing my read on interactions, if he changes his personality because early game I didnt see it, then his normal self showed off in the way he answered GB with the random list dot org page. Not saying he is right on his read, if you see I havent voted because my mafia read is Vivax. I dont see the “fallacy” Could you please point me what makes Ewya mafia? A bad read? Early game? Trying to take the charge of town? When we have other two “Veterans” to yell at each other? This is the real deal though. This is the timeline: 1. Eywa votes Batch 2. You say don't pressure Eywa, he's really null but he will just say whatever and not converse. 3. You say Eywa is town 4. You say Eywa would not just throw out a random name and expect people to follow him as mafia If you EVER thought point number 4 was true and made Eywa town then point number 2 should never have ever existed in the first place, you shouldn't be able to say that if you think point 4 is correct. So, you've justified reading Eywa town after the fact at a time that's convenient for you and pressure is building on Eywa to look correct and then berate (a very townie looking Shockey) for calling you out on it. | ||
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On September 28 2019 09:36 CopCake wrote: Awww GB look, the nostalgia of being mafia together AGAIN. Ofc I wouldnt rip off his fucking throat for what he did to me that time. ? What did he do? | ||
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On September 28 2019 09:55 CopCake wrote: This is it with my Ewya read I had him at null but paying special attention to him because of last game. Then I said that Ewya shouldnt be lynched, why? Because I consider him a good player, something similar to “Never lynch a veteran” rule, I didnt think I needed to explain that because last game everyone was like “oh do not touch HF or FF or Rayn or Ewya”, I wonder... why is it different here? Finally, when Ewya was mean to GB (to put it in one way because he was extremely dick to me last game with one comment) I was like “yeah this dude is town being himself, nothing different from last game” So there you go. Was this enough? Do I need to clear myself better? Actually I am not going to clear myself again because I dont have to, I know the town HF would sit down and try to understand town cake, if you dont even try... it is scummy. That's... not what you said at all though, is it? | ||
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On September 28 2019 10:08 FreezingFoot wrote: He clearly said it was a slip Clearly He used this term: “slip” Also branch responding copcake was simply ok defending himself. Do you think eywa’s reasoning was right? Prove it. | ||
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On September 26 2019 21:47 Eywa- wrote: What is this!? A perspective slip! And the crowd goes wild! On September 27 2019 02:50 Eywa- wrote: I can see where you're coming from, but you're wrong. I decided he was Mafia before posting the "arguments", but the "arguments" are not the reason that he's mafia, they are mostly just me mocking "cases". If you think this first post was anything other than a facetious exaggeration I don't know what to say. EITHER WAY, you spent a long, long time saying that Eywa had circular logic and all that baloney only to then say you could see how he would have circular logic after his flip????? Let me just requote your post: I can understand a townie actually believing there was a scum slip and getting annoyed that people wasn't seeing what he was seeing. I don't think his attitude contributed, but I understood him. BUT YOU COULDN'T SEE THAT AND IT WAS ALL A LIE LOL! | ||
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On September 28 2019 10:15 CopCake wrote: Null is that I don't have an opinion at all, that he could be mafia or town. I didnt have enough info back then. But shruuuuugssssss I get it, that's why I made the whole case on you being mafia. You're gonna have to do a whole lot of proving that you're not to me because I can't unsee it. | ||
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