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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 07 2019 18:55 GMT
#894
It's not cult, but if he recruits certain people they win and i think leave the game which will reduce town numbers even further which is why i dont really feel like playing because it's a retarded role list, considering there are two of those.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 07 2019 18:55 GMT
#895
On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.


That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you.

I know but back then i didn't realise it.
Whatever i am not really interested in arguing about this. Do whatever you want, i am going to bed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 07 2019 19:00 GMT
#904
On April 08 2019 03:58 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:55 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.


That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you.

Are you picking up what I'm laying down?


No, I think rayn has just misread some posts and you're taking him saying we're all 3P at face value rather than what he likely meant being we're 3P because we have alternate win conditions that may or may not align with town.

This faction bs doesn't mean shit. There is almost assuredly a mix of town and mafia in both factions.

Right, but then why does he argue what I'm saying if it was a mistake on his end initially? Like, my argument is correct... So why not admit that if you're town in his position?

Because yourt argument is not correct. I literally never said "if you have alternative win conditions you are not town" which is what your argument boils down to.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 07 2019 19:05 GMT
#909
I dont have to kill arabs. I dont have to kill anyone, even fucking mafia in order to win. How is that so hard to understand?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 07 2019 19:07 GMT
#913
On April 08 2019 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont have to kill arabs. I dont have to kill anyone, even fucking mafia in order to win. How is that so hard to understand?

And i only answered to you about "He says that if you have other win cons than you are 3rd party, not town after he already claims that he also has other wincons (and he's like "I'm going to ignore them")" because that's what you literally said. Now you are saying something else, that is not still correct...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 07 2019 19:08 GMT
#915
well i am off now
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 01:22 GMT
#1208
Well mr. Roman assassin i think you should know what to do since the people you need to kill have all claimed.
You can win with killin LS and i am now gonna pretend i have all townies best interest at heart; then we can figure out which of those people are lying since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and 3 people are saying they need to get recruited by LS. I obviously win when we kill those people but that's a point that doesn't matter.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 01:38 GMT
#1210
No just the hindu-arabic council which apparently is LS+Damdred+Grackaroni+Ewya (with one of them lying and probably mafia).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 01:43 GMT
#1213
On April 08 2019 10:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I can only recruit Hindu/Arabic mathematicians into a qt that's it. My role is useless outside of that.

well if that's what you're claiming then i think you are lying but that doesn't really matter because you're dead before D2 anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 01:45 GMT
#1215
On March 30 2019 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am always aligned with jockmcplop, and VE. Just to know.

I am hoping these are the rest of Roman council because it would be super funny.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 01:52 GMT
#1216
For reals though i think everyone who come out as clueless of what me and Damdred were talking about are probably mafia. That would be Vivax, Mocsta and Kelsier to some extent. Palmar probably just didn't read and if he is mafia him wanting to lynch Damdred doesn't really make any sense because Damdred is anti-town and works for him because LS is stubborn and acts like he does (aka only wants to recruit people he needs to and not even consider their alignments).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 02:26 GMT
#1220
I just read MZ's role and put 1+1 together. Apparently you can't do that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 03:10 GMT
#1222
I dont care what you think or try to sell people. I only carr that roman assassin knows what to do. Kill ls, n2 kill damdred. Then kill the one who is not lying of ewya/grsck. The liar is probably grack because ewya was too specific about his role. Town prolly needs to lynch me on D3 but thats olay because you get +1 night and nowhere it says i need to be alive in order to win with roman council so i am playing for you to win us the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 03:18 GMT
#1223
Oh wait no. lol i am bad. Well just kill ls and i thank you. I will thank you more if you are a boss and shoot damdred or ewya first.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 03:23 GMT
#1225
On April 08 2019 12:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Rayn suggesting a shot on me is fucking horrible I don't think he's mafia for it sadly. He's just as bad as HF was last game Day 1.

I dont think youre mafia but you are anti-town as fuck.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 11:52 GMT
#1296
I am like 90% sure Damdred can't be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 12:08 GMT
#1307
Look i am going to explain why Damdred is almost never mafia. Damdred has the same role i do 100%, except that he is hindu/arab and i am roman. both hindu/arabs and romans have a recruiter who needs to recruit mathematicians from their "side" in order to fulfill their secondary wincondition (the recruited people win too in case they become council). Hindu/arab recruiter is confirmed LS, and Damdred + Eywa (+Grackaroni) have claimed to be hindu/arab mathematicians.

Now let's assume Damdred is mafia. In case LS gets all the people recruited they win the game. Now they are in a qt (read LS' posts) so if Damdred is mafia, and they know on night X they are gonna get the last person recruited, why doesn't Damdred (or any of them who is or would be mafia) just out his whole scumteam 1 second before the night ends? Sounds like a legit Artanis balanced game??? I say hell no. Saying if someone or a group of people fulfill their wincon they do not leave the game is just even more retarded than thinking the above could be true. Which is why LS is either full of shit or is trying to (do a shitty job of) trying to back off his claim -- probably the latter.

MZ's role and my claim basically confirm this to be true. The thing is though that LS claims he needs to recruit only 2 people so unless LS is lying one of Damdred, Eywa and Grack has to be lying. This doesn't matter rn because Roman assassin (equivalent to MZ) will kill LS tonight and we will see for sure if LS is lying or not. If LS is telling the truth then i'd say Eywa is 100% town, Damdred 90% town and Grack whose claim i find out to be the shadiest 10%.

I agree Sentinel and Vivax are probably mafia. Vivax and Mocsta have been talking about each other (scumreading each other) in a way that seems like a double soft bus rather than them actually thinking the other person is mafia because while both scumread each other they don't actually ever argue about anything with each other (see on the contrary for example me vs ewya yesterday).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 12:14 GMT
#1308
So here is some food for thought mafia:

Roman assassin will shoot LS because if they do so they win, so why wouldn't they? They are town and you probably know that so that's 1 less townie for you to handle.

I am suggesting you shoot Damdred or (and if you have more than 1 kp) Eywa. Then me and a couple of other people will leave the game too and that's three more people for you to handle. If that doesn't happen, then you just get rid of Grackaroni next night and it's guaranteed Roman "pact" will get out of the game.

If you are not going to do that i suggest you shoot me because i will try my hardest to fucking lynch you unless i see Damdred and Ewya dead starting D2. If you shoot a fellow roman person i will try my hardest to fucking lynch you. So ball's in your court, help me and my friends and help you at the same time or get to deal with more angry townies.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 12:17 GMT
#1310
Mr Roman recruiter you should recruit me unless you know another Roman mathematician (i am pretty sure i do know one but i'd like to not say who that is).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 08 2019 12:20 GMT
#1312
Blame Lightningstrike. Had he not claimed i would have no intention in making a deal with mafia but now i do because regardless of if i doe or not i probably win by doing so.
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