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#1564
ok, noted you have expressed that, and i have finally reached the same conclusion
but, i havent asked you anything?
i was merely putting my position out there having reevaluated on conversion
for me, as above, mafia is 3 out of (koshi/slender/calix/tictock).
without diving any of them, i feel tictock is likely town; which leaves
koshi/slender/calix
if that is the case, i applaud calix for toughing it out.
and would also go someway to support my personal feelings that majority of the game is town
not sure if the NK support a solo mafia though.
who knows maybe vivax was a blue snipe, especially if mafia hve an RB.
Speaking of that, its not even clear if we get notifications. To me its inferred there is none as there is no successful block notice tot he RB.
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On June 29 2018 14:37 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2018 14:10 Mocsta wrote:
#1561
i dont like this, whether i was still anti-conversion or not.
the votes were so unpredictable at that point.
(a) there was EoD wagons forming like boxer
(b) the vote counts were rarely updated and had errors.. there was no certainty
but i dont like this because you are insinuating that with 1 minute to spare there is enough time to reload the page, see the change, process what needs to happen to save whomeever, and then type the vote.
thats a buttload, and then yuo have different internet speeds.. basically the 1min separate could be considered logging at the same time.
the other factor is that philosophically, smoe ppl are just simply opposed to voting an afk lurker.
town, perhaps because they wish it wouldnt happen to them; or morals or whatever
scum, perhaps because they feel they will cop limelight they dont want, or whatever.
like im not gonig to call someone scum because they didnt want to vote boxerfred, and definitely not because of something that happened 1min in sequence.
where im getting it is that such a simple thing debunks that whole post.. im not really sure what the point was other than, here, rayn wants me off the island, now here is another plattter to choose. The problem here is that some people decided not to bote for their reads and vivax derped hard. The problem is also you not voting for shockey. I am sorry once again, but you dont voting dor your mafia read is strange. This come again with: Did you not want shockey lynched because it would clear me, rayn, etc or not? (If town) Would his death put a red light (if mafia) to Calix, yourself, etc. I cant believe people picked an afk over a read -____- i dont really know what else to say to you.
it was a real issue to me that rayn got pissed at regfan, and im over it.
im not the only one that voted boxerfred.. like, why arent you doing this to holyflare.
I tried to vote all my reads before going to boxer.. like, i just dont get what your problem is.
we just keep doing the same dance over and over again, im trying to talk to you in a different way and you are being a brick-wall about this.
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What an odd post
Votes shockeyy but wants to focus on me later
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On June 29 2018 17:00 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2018 16:56 Mocsta wrote:
What an odd post
Votes shockeyy but wants to focus on me later I already think ShoCkeyy is mafia. I'm not sure whether you're mafia. Why is that strange? one vote one focus
You are diluting
It is odd even with shift work
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I think its ok for people to waver on reads and tells.
The question is the motivation which i dont think you covered
Tldr. Im not seeing why this cant be town
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And does your theory hold if shock isnt mafia?
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On June 27 2018 21:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:I think Vivax is town, after reading convos between Tictock and Calix... Who btw barely even talk to each other in the thread other than "I didn't like your case against Cake".It stars with Calix here: Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Well nothing to do but pretend like I am working and play this instead.
What up peeps Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz? What I've found in past games is that afkers are usually town, and away, since they don't have a huge role in the game, they tend to just sit back, watch, and post when needed. And also honestly, I've notice way more mafia trying to lynch into afk towns, than anything. I would understand the afkers too because I thought the game was starting Tuesday. Not Monday night, so I had to play a large catch up as part of it. here Calix still trying to put blame on afker's, low post count trying to lynch them off, or Vivax, who is starting to look more town after each post because of the interactions between Tictock and Calix. Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 20:15 Calix wrote:
I'm as good as rayn and HF? Since when? lmao
Anyway I've skimmed the thread. I'm making the executive decision to largely ignore the TWO (!!!) giant cases against me since I'll be working for most of the day and putting me on the defense near EOD is a really bad idea. I'll be around for EOD though so I can do some filter-diving and give reads then ^^
Also Regfan goes up a notch for being sensible, looking into things and discouraging that dumb fight or whatever you'd call it between Tictock and Mocsta (while Mocsta's case was pretty bad, it's not mafia-terrible, I don't think).
Regfan also realises that, in a game where about 1/3 of the players aren't actually playing, lynching someone who is playing on D1 is suboptimal.
Yes, yes, this argument is really self-serving but it's not wrong so you should probably just do it.
In a normal game, this would be the part where I tell you who the best lynch is but I would be lying if I said I had any preference. Sure, I can analyse Koshi/ ShoCkeyy/ Vivax or whine about how terrible it is that two players haven't posted yet. But I don't think it's possible to accurately assess players with such low post counts so I don't see the point of wasting time by pretending to do so. I could lynch literally any of them right now and my thoughts are probably not changing until they actually start doing stuff. Then tictock's reasoning of not "voting for Cilax" Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 14:00 Tictock wrote:
I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today.
I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still.
Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1.
Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him).
I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now. Possibly lynching off a teammate d1 won't work for him, so yea let's go for the afkers or Vivax the well known town... good post
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On June 28 2018 01:24 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 01:14 Tictock wrote:
Looks like I was actually reading pg 26, which I have now finished.
I need to move my vote off Reg kus I am starting to think I have just been wrong and a bit tunneled on him, and even of not seems to be a solid player to keep around given what I've been reading.
I am warming up to a ShoCkeyy lynch, so will move my vote there. He is going to be the next name on my list of dives, but unless he posts a bunch more that will be a short filter. Says this 8 mins ago, votes for me 4 mins ago, so what made you come to the conclusion of voting for me? Was it because I've been calling Calix out? Or you out? hmmm another good post i suspect
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On June 28 2018 04:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 03:54 Vivax wrote:
On a quick reread I like shockey more for mafia than TT actually I don't care why you may think I'm more mafia, but what is making you think TT maybe town? supa town post btw
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On June 28 2018 07:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So mocsta comes back, and within 5 mins already votes for me, cool, this guy reads... mafia qt. this actually makes sense from his perspective
At the time i didnt know cos this was the first post i saw of him
Deffo town
##vote: calix
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Is there any similarity to hf with the last game he was scum?
Like i suppose he hasnt been complete dog with a bome this gamr and im still surprised he dropped his scum read on me but thats about it on the negatives for me
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On June 29 2018 22:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2018 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 29 2018 21:59 Mocsta wrote:
Is there any similarity to hf with the last game he was scum?
Like i suppose he hasnt been complete dog with a bome this gamr and im still surprised he dropped his scum read on me but thats about it on the negatives for me I cannot tell to be honest. I seriously thought he was mafia last game because he simply just chose to not care about anything regarding kitaman and iamperfection who were quite obviously mafia. And with rsoultin the game before that. It bugs me when he doesn't do something i expect him to do. I still don't know why he chose to vote for boxerfred instead of TT. Of all the people a guy with zero posts.... I don't know why he would do that as mafia either but it doesn't sit well with his MO anyways. I didn't basically read anything he wrote after that very terrible opening in the last game he was mafia in so i can't tell.
What was the game
I will try to have a read
Having said that. I was looking through cc filter for the hf case she mentions and seen anlotbof stuff about tt emotiin appeals to save calix which i wasnt aware of.
Tt makes more sense to me than hf. Esp with shockeyy points
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Hmmm. Why would scum hf choose boxerfred over shockeyy?
Actually if shoxkeyy is onto bith buddies in calix and tt. Boxer is distancing himself from a scum all in
Its a possibility
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From elementary skim i dint think hf is mafia
I will check this game filter now to compare
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On June 28 2018 00:52 Holyflare wrote:
I would lynch tt in a heartbeat btw. Pretty confident he's mafia.
Just putting that out there for future shenanigans. lol....
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On June 28 2018 02:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 02:34 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 02:30 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 02:27 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 02:25 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare, the hydra is not mafia.
Calix is though.
Make your pick. I would rather they confirm that themselves thanks. Calix could definitely be mafia for the tt post though too. Oh really? I've just followed my TT post up with two lynch alternatives plus discussion that's moving AWAY from this emotion stuff. Which you are completely ignoring to call me mafia for a post that is not mafia at all. Your tt is town spiel is absolutely redundant because your follow up lynch is vivax who was up for lynch at the time you made the tt post. So you pretty much hard defended tt against no impending threat instead of just seeing your biggest scum read was actually the lynch and trying to get more people to vote for him. If there's only one vote between a TT and Vivax lynch like you say there is (I wouldn't know) then how is that 'no impending threat' exactly when thread sentiment is against TT still? And you're basically arguing that I went in, KNOWING who was the lynch...and then pretended I didn't? For no reason? Knowing that someone could call me out? Have you considered that maybe I just DIDN'T know and it wasn't part of a master plan? And I am trying to get people to focus on my other scum-reads so saying I haven't provided an alternative is objectively false. This push is really weak, HF ngl. When did I ever say there was one vote difference? Wtf? my god.... is this a qt scum slip....
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On June 29 2018 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta i wanna ask you something. Read TT's filter and tell me what do you see or find interesting.
Ok will do.
I will say hf filter this game doesnt flow the same to me as elementary BUT the circusmtances of the game may be very different if scum buddy calix was early pinged.
I stopped at the potential qt scum slip post.. but its odd how much he is skirting around calix and tt being scum .. i have no idea how he got to boxerfred.. im a bit puzzled to be honest.
Will do tt now
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On June 29 2018 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:I dislike the comment from HF, the starting one. very much. Regfan was always town for dick move analysis after his outburst on me. Always.
Its more than that....
Calix is talking about vote counts which is never mentioned in the thread
Like its a fredudian slip from calix. Legit.
Now you could say she just did a count so was thinking about it..but it comes out so natutal as if HF had done the count for her
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On June 27 2018 00:35 Tictock wrote:
Not a fan of Calix's case on Cake. Partially kus I think Cake is almost lock town for me.
Her points feel more nitpickey than insightful though, like she isn't sure how or what to address in the game. Her first point is weak as both Town and Mafia can ask weak questions, and I disagree that Cake hasn't done anything to advance the game. She has clearly given her own opinions and seems to be openly weighing in on things.
I think I need Calix to give better examples of what she means by Cake making excuses for others kus I don't know what she is referring too.
The pointing out inactives stuff is weak as well. I've seen both mafia and town do this so it is not very AI. The point would be stronger if that was ALL cake had posted, but it is far from the only thought Cake has presented so I find this pretty underwhelming.
Kinda disappointed, I think Calix likely rolled mafia this game and is struggling with her time constraints. Was hoping to play with her as town.
Bottom line sounds truthful
Feels emotional
I do comments like that as scum quite often
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