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Is what it is. This deadline is 8am for me. | ||
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I can cohost if no alternative arises. | ||
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i.e. only one person posts in the thread, but you can have a mason buddy (via quicktopic) that you communicate with. Hydra is hard to read, because you can have 2 completely different personalities. | ||
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On June 22 2018 03:50 Tictock wrote: Help me out.This game is lacking scrubs... /in Is this a dig at yourself; or a dig at scrubs? | ||
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/cohost Suggest you start the game whilst the iron is hot. | ||
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kk /in still suggest we start asap ================================== START OF FILTER HERE | | | | | V | ||
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On June 26 2018 08:14 Tictock wrote: On second thought, lets vote Regfan, purely for having an obscene prepared post, that I will prob never read. This i can wagon. Otherwise please vote me | ||
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On June 26 2018 08:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: easy and low stress is naturalHolyflare, would you use this wording as a native english speaker if you are town: The addition of low demand reads forced. | ||
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On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote: It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks. Thus it's not AI. I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that. Ping.... | ||
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On June 26 2018 09:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually i am more interested in "this is" instead of "this would be", because this clearly isn't unless they are mafia.  Ohh i see what you are thinking I treat as null with no knowledge of player It could be easy as you infer because they know the game syate i.e. mafia Could equally be town and think its easy as they can solve the game Perhaps 60% mafia tell and 40% town at worse | ||
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On June 26 2018 10:17 Holyflare wrote: im not against this eitherWe should be lynch ticktock though. | ||
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On June 26 2018 10:58 CopCake wrote: This question caught me off guard.Am I town or am I mafia rayn? If anything, I was anticipating CopCake to declare Rayn: town or mafia. Clearly, the "early game' scum reads struck a chord with CopCake enough to contribute his/her independent thought process of those reads (e.g. Tictock). At minimum, I was expecting that thought process to follow through to the initiator. Therefore, I find this exchange odd. Yes its a dead question - which obviously town can ask. But i find it odd, because its a dead question to someone that I thought woudl be on CopCake radar. | ||
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On June 26 2018 11:25 CopCake wrote: i dont understand how it leads to anything.Lol, the question is to make a better read on rayn. @Regfan that question is too early to ask since not everyone has posted but I would shot HF as mafia. I dont get his tt reasons. If rayn calls you town, as either alignment, you will walk away feeling good about yaself. If rayn calls yo mafia, as either alignment, you will walk away with a sense of OMGUS. Dead question. Having said that, I do share suspicion towards Holyflare. Not enough to lean scum, but enough to pay extra attention to new content. Whether you agreed or not, at least to me, superfically, the Tictock stuff is fine. On the otherhand, whilst the strikethrough is more likely to be mafia than town in origin, its not conclusive and I find to be overly hammed up by HF. My expectation for a town!HF is for him to do his own campaigning. If he does this, even if its against me. I shall call him town. We will have to wait and see. | ||
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On June 26 2018 11:35 Regfan wrote: Can you please share an example.My read on TT is without a lick of meta involved in it, if you've done some meta research that suggests he's town here, I think mentioning that is rather important -- I need to be able to follow /how/ you're getting to reads in this game here and the way it played out didn't really do that. What's your reads/thoughts on Mocsta at the moment? We both read a lot of his posts as him feeling somewhat detached from the actual game thread in a way I see mafia do more often than not, where he's there posting things that seem /somewhat okay/ but then looking at the body of content and going "huh". I'd imagine you've got some actual meta on him, is this something you'd say fits more his town/scum play and why? (Pretty much if you're town here dude I need to see it via your thought process/solving, please) -R Most of my posts are one-liners, so im curious what body of (non-existent) content you are referring to. I would actually prefer as well if "R" did one, and "G" did one. This is due to the above proclamation that you share opinions outside the thread; whereas, I find your opinions posted to be non-congruent beyond differences stemming from personality. | ||
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On June 26 2018 11:50 Regfan wrote: busywork made me chuckle@Conversion - What's your reads/thoughts on Non-Holyflare players? Cheers, most of this makes a lot of sense. Wouldn't mind you getting to the Moscsta question when you get a chance, we're reading his posts here as busywork to a degree and Gemma can't work out why the things he's commenting on are important to him or where he's really trying to go with it and working out if this is just a playstyle concern or not would be nice. -R If it helps Im at work on a shutdown task So bhsywork is apt You know. You can always ask me stuff 2 lol | ||
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On June 26 2018 12:03 Regfan wrote: interesting.Sure, Gemma will likely get around to doing it later too. I found your initial catch up posts...underwhelming for the most part, the response towards Rayn in #78 to be make sense and be something I agreed with but the agreement on TT scum read in #80 with nothing attatched to it as to why you agreed there and to move on from there to focusing on CopCakes question to Rayn in #122 feels like you're...sort of aimlessly posting if that makes any sense, like "I can talk about this for a bit", "I'll focus talking about this" and when I look at it the progression/entirety of it I'm left thinking "His reads are what and why???" and I'm trying to work out if this is a playstyle type thing or not and am hoping Rayns response will help with that. - R I think catch up is a poor phrase for a 2 page game. It also has needless negative connotation. More an fyi if you are non native. I didnt think what i wrote to copcake was talking for the sake of it. In fact copcake calls me town afterwards.... Whilst i appreciate you went tk the effort to pinpoiny some posts. Im am confused how to digest this. In essence i find this poor reasons to scum read someone. Its basically they dont agree witb me so must be scum. Im confused as i dont know if this stems from different game culture on teamliquid or mafia. The difference in play between you and gemma leans me mafia. Of mental note when my workfront clears i need to check your position on holyflare and vice versa | ||
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On June 26 2018 12:30 Regfan wrote: i find it startling that given all that has occured jn the thread. That i am of your primary concern.@Mocsta - Not a non-native at all, but think reading up/catching up on whatever has been missed (regardless of the length of it) is "catching up on the game". You're very much missing my concern with your play here, it's not that I take issue with your questioning of CopCake there, mentioned it twice now, when I look at the individual posts they seem mostly reasonable, it's just the progression/body of work so to speak where I'm stumped with you and left going "Huuhh" with. I can't follow what your reads are on the players here or why you're thinking what you are. I'm fully aware that others think about the game quite differently than I do, I'm also very aware that the meta on TL is hugely different to most of the places I've played at. That doesn't change the fact that when attempting to get a read on someone (No matter who/where it is) I need to be able to see "Oh they're doing A for B" or "They think C due to D/E", I don't need to agree with the reasoning of why you've got somewhere or have a particular read for it to be a real/genuine read from them, I do need to see that it exists. I don't even have a strong scum read on you here at all, I'm very much in a headspace where I'm just gathering data to try and work out/solve the game right now and having others comment on your playstyle (Plus I'm planning on reading through 1-2 of your town/scum games when I get a chance to be able to work it out myself) will help me massively when it comes to you. - R I suspect if you town we are at an impasse. Im not going to share all my thoights on this game. Only those i think thatvare relevant or those i am asked about and care to share. If you doubt my intention i would expect you to probe me on why i acted a certain way. Instead you arensoliciting other opinion. Frankly this comes across to me as suspect. Puppeteer behind the curtain type stuff. I dont think my past games will help much either. I entered this game with diffeerent jntebtions to others and so far think i am living up to them. If you must know and have not realiaed. I was suspicious of cupcake because he toom such an early strong stance. This is reflected in my posts.... | ||
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Yet gloss over hf. This startles me even more when the basis of their issues with me stems from my reaction to HF tictock comments. My recollection of regfan is lots of "process" nitpicking that leads nowhere ##vote: regfan | ||
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I have nothing further to add other than i am super impressed you could gauge me swapping between phone and computer I still find both of you keep adding flair words of negatitve connotatiin when describing processes. This is certainly more scummy then townie. Vote remains. Lunch time. Ciao | ||
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