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Hi! Glad you’re playing again. I like that you pointed out the awkward exchange concerning Calix, but I just don’t agree it’s indicative. I think a mafia would be more scared about getting a vote placed on them this early and a town wouldn’t really care. Town will/should be able to get their town light to shine. | ||
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On April 08 2018 10:43 currentlyhomeless wrote: anyone around at this hour to talk? I am in Asia so I wonder if I will have no buddies  Someone tell me the run down of who’s good and who’s not in this game. If it seems legit maybe I’ll actually consider you town I’m one hour ahead of Tokyo’s time zone. I’ll be around. Haha but I’m not exactly high activity. | ||
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I’m comfortable townreading Rayne and GB. Calix I don’t know about. I didn’t agree with any of the Rayne criticism and they seemed a tad nit picky. It reminded me of noobking in my last game (noob was scum). But I do like the activity and she seems to be looking at everything. | ||
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On April 09 2018 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: So yeah, if you wanna vote me for that idc. As i said there is no more to gain for me from this because i believe the people not taking part to this can be either dumb as fuck and vote for me or mafia. Or Damdred who will call me town regardless of his affiliation because he can't help himself either being right on me or "being right on me". Or call me town which isn't even a tell of any alignment because it is just very obvious none of this makes me mafia. So leave me alone and vote for me or not, but go discuss something else and let me find scum. | ||
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On April 09 2018 10:33 Oatsmaster wrote: Whos mafia tubesock? Unsure. I want to hear Skynx’s answer to my questions. But if eod was now, I’d vote him. But I can vote anyone but GB, Rayne, you. I don’t like HF as a day 1 lynch, so pretty doubtful I’d vote him (83.7839% certainty) I still think GB is funny. So tone read I guess. I’ve liked everything I’ve seen Rayne say. I think you and I are pretty much on the same page concerning Skynx and Calex. With the exception that I want to see more from Calex as the game goes on. I’m uncertain if her “reevaluating” is genuine or not. She’s mentioned it enough in other reads that I feel like she’s projecting her strategy if she is mafia. But it seems to me that people get called out less for tunneling so being obstinate would benefit her if she were scum rather than reevaluating. I do not like her vote at all. Especially since she doesn’t even scum read Rayne anymore. | ||
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On April 09 2018 11:34 Oatsmaster wrote: Vivax is forgettable, i had to look at his filter to see what was up and yeah theres nothing much, not gonna lynch today though Why not? | ||
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On April 09 2018 12:42 GlowingBear wrote: Like, people, I won't be here at EoD tomorrow. I hope you exchange some ideas now so I can read them by the morning tomorrow and place my vote accordingly. Where's Damdred btw? Are you still scumreading Calex? | ||
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“Skynx is alright.” So does that mean you agree with his case? But you said Rayne and GB are town? Was it something else Skynx said? What exactly was “alright”? Same with Damdred. (Obviously he didn’t make a case though). | ||
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On April 09 2018 13:39 Eversince wrote: No, I think his case is garbage. But he himself admit that he didn't understand much. With how much Calix was pushing Rayn it kind of makes sense. I don't see an agenda behind it... Hmm. It looked pretty opportunistic to me. It was after Rayne was already getting some heat from Calex (even GB was getting some of it). At the time they were safe targets for mafia to come in with a case and look productive. You’re right it was garbage. And overexplainy on pretty simple concepts. But him not understand what was going on makes it more scummy don’t you think? Wouldn’t town want to figure out a little bit of what’s going on before they throw out a case? I think he may have thrown out a case just to throw something out. | ||
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On April 09 2018 13:50 Eversince wrote: But he did nothing with it? If it came from mafia Skynx I assume his team would be behind him? It was just a wall post that everyone seems to dismiss. You see what I'm saying? I see what you’re saying. I don’t agree his team would back him though. The more I think about it the more I think he’s scum. ##Vote: Skynx | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:05 Eversince wrote: and actually to add to that. Rayn was getting some pressure from lots of people. Most didn't commit. So why wouldn't mafia try to rally around it? I think where we disagree is the amount of coordination mafia actually does. And that changes our worldview. I’m saying Skynx saw heat on Rayn and took the opportunity to try to get him killed. It also makes him look productive. Maybe the other mafiates weren’t around. Maybe they already did rally and saw they were the only ones trying. My experience though mafia likes to help kill people but makes town do most the work. Calex was doing most the work, Skynx just added a little push. | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:17 Eversince wrote: What do you think about HF/Exo/noob/CH/ Oats etc? I don't have experience playing with anyone but HF/ Oats. I don't think HF is mafia but I'm trying to not overthink things from now... I will end up tunneled lol. HF is solid null to me. I think your point concerning lack of nit picking makes him more likely town. I’m super unlikely to vote him. Exo, n00b, CH I would support lynching. It’s policy though. I was really hoping CH was BH and would post pics of moving boxes to be hilariously trolly. But it’s Kush. Who I generally find super funny too though so still fun. If he played. I really liked Oats stuff on Skynx and Calex. I like his straight to the point tone. He’s solid town for me. | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:22 Eversince wrote: How could one miss time stamps?! I do this shit all the time. And I've liked almost all of Rayn's post. So that's the other half. It’s funny, you’re saying a lot of things that I feel support my argument. Rayne gets heat from a lot of people. Mafia would stack on the heat. Skynx adds heat. Skynx’ main point is Rayne lied about getting a timestamp. (Garbage reason) Skynx is town though. We agree with it all except for the alignment part. | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:30 Eversince wrote: I'm really confused now. Start at the mid portion of page 15. Oats points out the backpedaling. And the easy townreading from Calex on Skynx. | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:35 currentlyhomeless wrote: LOL you think I am kush hahahahaha should I be flattered? /shrug, just going off what someone said when Kush posted in this game. If you are great. If not great. | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:38 Eversince wrote: No, what I'm saying is that Skynx case on Rayn got no support. Rayn missing a timestamp means nothing to me. I fly between Germany/US/Korea on a monthly basis. I loose track so often it makes my head hurt. Find a better reason. Skynx case getting traction is irrelevant to my point. Anyway this isn’t going anywhere. Back to Oats? | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:35 currentlyhomeless wrote: LOL you think I am kush hahahahaha should I be flattered? Do you think anyone but HF is scum? Do you think he’s scum? I don’t get your “trap”. Town OMGUS’ all the time. | ||
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You’re so helpful. Tops town. | ||
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On April 09 2018 15:01 Oatsmaster wrote: It was like halfway during the first 24 hours, obviously wasnt gonna be the push that was gonna be lynched. Rayn has never been lynched day 1. Right. I don’t see how this has anything to do with what I’ve said though. Is this a point for Skynx being town? | ||
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On April 09 2018 15:03 Eversince wrote: His case got no support because his case deserved no support. Or are you really about to call me out about not reading timestamps being a mafia trait? Because the fact that I say his case has no merit makes me what? Am I scum? Last comment about this I swear. 1) its a terrible case. Why? Time stamps lies. Time stamps is a super nit picky thing, right? Do you think scum have to fabricate their cases, sometimes by finding any little thing so they can to fabricate a case? I do. And I think Skynx fabricated it so he could look productive. I also think he did it to blend in without risking too much attention. We will have to agree to disagree. | ||
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On April 09 2018 15:09 currentlyhomeless wrote: Yep, I’m the greatest! It would be great if you sheeped me and voted HF, cause HF is flipping scum. Now I just think you’re role playing BH too much. | ||
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On April 09 2018 15:19 Eversince wrote: Yes, and that's fine TS. I mention that before. I think you're wrong but at least you reason out your thoughts. I hope you are around long enough I can talk to you tonight. I’m on for about another hour, then dinner time stuff. EOD is 530a for me so I’m not sure I’ll be awake that early. | ||
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On April 09 2018 16:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I actually think the same as Eversince. That thread sentiment convinced him to case you and GB? Or her entire stance? Or just he’s town? | ||
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On April 09 2018 16:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tubesock: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/524561-generic-mini-mafia-iii?user=Skynx Funny thing is it's always "because rayn did the same thing last game as mafia". Without any thinking at all. Thanks! I’ve been looking unsuccessfully. | ||
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I’m not even sure mafia would be that blatant. | ||
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On April 09 2018 16:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tubesock: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/524561-generic-mini-mafia-iii?user=Skynx Funny thing is it's always "because rayn did the same thing last game as mafia". Without any thinking at all. I did laugh when his first post is a case on you. I didn’t read past page three on his filter. I’ll accept the point that he will always think you’re scummy in any game (if that’s your point). But the only similarities were the first post is a case about you. The games are a bit different. And if he’s self aware at all, something he likely would try to replicate as mafia. I’m up for lynching someone else I guess. Not HF though. | ||
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On April 09 2018 17:07 Calix wrote: Why not HF? I know you said 'his lack of nitpicking' makes him more likely town but you still have him as 'solid null' so I don't really get why you don't want him lynched. I feel somewhat confident I can read him eventually. I think he tries harder as mafia, but also I think the damage a living fairly inactive mafiaHF is less than killing a townHF who just hasn’t had much time to play. He hasn’t done anything that I think makes him town, but so far he’s on the greener shade of null. However, well within his scum range. | ||
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Skynx Currentlyplayless Vivax, Exo, Damdred They’re all pretty much the same really. Doubt i would vote n00bking. Won’t vote for the rest of the game, including Eversince. I think the only legitimate criticisms for her is her weird reads. I don’t understand her conclusions on Skynx, Damdred, Oats (not so much what she said in her list but our conversation), or Exo. When I talked to her I think she was being honest and open about her opinions. So I’m not faulting her for that. Anyway, I think she’s town. | ||
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On April 09 2018 19:55 n00bKing wrote: Lazy scum _____ is more dangerous than lazy town ______ is helpful. Doesn't matter whose name you put in the blank. Not exactly what I said, but ok? | ||
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On April 09 2018 20:06 Calix wrote: What makes you town-read n00bking strongly enough to say that you 'won't vote [him] for the rest of the game'? Or was that comment just referring to Eversince? Just for the day and it referred to Eversince. | ||
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On April 09 2018 20:07 n00bKing wrote: Well what did you mean to say, then? There is at least one word missing in your post, and maybe other errors. I tried to figure it out as best I could, but maybe I missed the mark. It is worse to kill a town HF than let a fairly inactive mafia HF live. In the context of the damage the inactive mafia can do, and not knowing his alignment. Obviously if he’s mafia it’s better to lynch him but I prefer him to live to increase the odds of a correct guess of his alignment. If that makes sense. This would not apply to currentlyhomeless for example, because there’s high odds he will play this same way all game. | ||
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On April 09 2018 20:06 Calix wrote: What makes you town-read n00bking strongly enough to say that you 'won't vote [him] for the rest of the game'? Or was that comment just referring to Eversince? Sorry ebwob: Doubt I would vote for n00bking. I will not vote for the rest of the players not mentioned. | ||
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On April 09 2018 20:45 n00bKing wrote: Then I like what I said already. Because if HF is Town, then he's probably as inactive as he appears to be. If he's Scum, there is NO way for everyone to know if he is as inactive as he appears to be. As Scum, I can largely afk the main thread, while actively crafting and guiding the scum agenda through Day Phases, and suggesting (or simply selecting) what I think would be optimal Night actions. And even if the Scum player IS truly not applying much energy or effort to the game, an empty shell scum player who is really nothing more than just a warm body provides a lot more value to this team than an empty shell town player provides to his. The only thing a Scum player needs to do in order to significantly benefit his team is not die. Low-activity scum player is more dangerous than a low-activity town player is helpful. You saying that you are confident you can read him eventually is valid, though. Generally speaking that’s true. But town Hf wrecks mafia. so I’d like to take that chance he’s town. | ||
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Last two n00b votes were at 14 and 7 minutes prior to deadline. Exo’s was at 21 minutes prior. Fairly last minute I guess, I can see how that could feel like 5 seconds. But I don’t get why she wouldn’t just vote exo or Damdred as they were scummed by her and also basically AFK players if she were town. Her filter is actually quite barren of scum reads. Eversince, I hope you give the gun to Rayn. I’d be fine with HF also. I’d just shoot Calex, currentlyhomeless, or Skynx with it. I don’t even know if I’d shoot Skynx with it. I want to see what he does in the next 36 hours. | ||
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On April 10 2018 08:44 Holyflare wrote: Calix points are very good. Huh? I don’t think you’re seeing Vivax objectively. Like he is trying to respond to you but you keep burying him with stuff. Isn’t the old Vivax famous for inconsistencies and tin foils? I’m too dumb to understand why he’s being any different this game. But I do like pretty much all his reads. | ||
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On April 09 2018 23:53 Vivax wrote: In hindsight it will be one of the most right things that have been said in the thread cause you're not the type to lean that far out of the window as mafia if not cause you have to. I don’t understand this interaction. Are you to towning HF here? | ||
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On April 10 2018 14:06 GlowingBear wrote: Also, I was GlowingBeer, just so this is settled. I'm lynching Skynx or [red]rayn[/red tomorrow. No one else. Actually I could lynch homeless if these lynches can't get traction. rayn, your play until here makes no sense to me. You start by inquiring homeless, drops the push over nothing, votes eversince for flimsy reasons, says exo is scum but don't really try to convince people he is mafia. Such a weak gameplay for someone who has such a strong personality while playing mafia. I don’t agree with you concerning rayn. They’re all pretty subjective points that add up to him not being the wrecking force he normally is right? If that’s your point, I think it’s due to being busier in life. Same thing happened to HF and why he plays differently now. I also don’t really agree with the points you brought up. I think he dropped homeless once he realized Kush was trolling. Eversince’s reads are a hot mess, so not sure how his reasonings are weak (you even scum read her, what are your strong reasons?), he posted several times to get Exo lynched. “Try” I guess would be subjective. | ||
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On April 10 2018 14:10 GlowingBear wrote: Oh and you even scumread Damdred because he was afk. To be fair you did too, said you hated it. What do you think of HF? What about Calex and her EOD shenanny? You said that you need to reread Calex but cba, why did you say that? | ||
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Maybe you shouldn’t give it to rayn. Maybe say 1 of X people. Or your second top town. OP said you start with a gun and have the option to hand out or create. Maybe you can create another one. In this case I think some wifommagic would be good. | ||
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Calex and Skynx are my top scum. Not sure on the third. | ||
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On April 10 2018 20:03 Calix wrote: This would be less offensive if you hadn’t spelled my name wrong lol. Ouch, I’ve been misspelling it all game! Apologies tru | ||
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On April 10 2018 20:11 Calix wrote: Since I think you are probably town kindly humour me for a moment. Imagine mod comes down and confirms me town. Who do you look into next? Thunderstorm rolling through so internet is moody. Skynx is too scum for me. CurrentlyHomeless is completely unreadable so we have to figure out how to get rid of him. I think the last mafia would be in Damdred, or Exo. I think I’m pretty confident HF is town. In the next few days I’ll reevaluate Rayn, GB, Oats. There’s always one in my townpile. But I think more votes and night kills help figure that out. HF has stepped up in my opinion. So probably won’t relook at him till d3 when I wonder why he’s alive. | ||
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On April 10 2018 20:35 Tubesock wrote: Thunderstorm rolling through so internet is moody. Skynx is too scum for me. CurrentlyHomeless is completely unreadable so we have to figure out how to get rid of him. I think the last mafia would be in Damdred, or Exo. I think I’m pretty confident HF is town. In the next few days I’ll reevaluate Rayn, GB, Oats. There’s always one in my townpile. But I think more votes and night kills help figure that out. HF has stepped up in my opinion. So probably won’t relook at him till d3 when I wonder why he’s alive. Bleh. Skynx TOP scum for me. | ||
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On April 10 2018 20:46 Calix wrote: What do you think of Exo vs moi? I disagree with Skynx. He seemed genuinely lost to me at EOD. And I think if he was mafia he’d have more of an idea of game state from having mafia buddies. Did you make anything of Damdred posts? I am having a hard time with reads right now. I might throw most of them out and start D2 clear. I might even have to filter dive properly. Because right now I have good odds of being lynched. Most people think I am mafia. But I know I am a ML so have to use info well and can’t slack off. On phone so please excuse shite grammar. I have a really tough time with your eod. I’ve only seen two people drop a vote like that and freeze. They were both mafia. I also don’t think I’d ever agree about your reasoning to jump off Vivax. That being said, Exo’s being pretty opportunistic here and I’d jump his ass pretty hard if you didn’t have that eod you did. Or I thought your reasoning was logical. Or you still held the vote. You have 55 hours or whatever to make up for it though. Exo looks more scummy than he was before. I don’t like his rayn attack either. Damdred’s been totally worthless and forgettable. He vanishes a lot due to real life though which is sad, but it’s still anti town. | ||
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On April 10 2018 20:59 Holyflare wrote: I think exo is town. Come at me. :  : Why? | ||
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On April 10 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote: Okay then what do you think of Rayn? I think he's been pretty absent this game, and generally willing to just chill and do nothing. Do you think he's town, or what and why? I don't know Damdred's real life circumstances, but I don't think he should get a pass much longer. I’ve been saying he’s town all game. My reasonings haven’t changed at all. I’m willing to bet his “chill and do nothing” is him living a life outside of mafia. Otherwise known as just busy. And frankly, you can not criticize him for not being around all the time. | ||
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On April 10 2018 21:09 Holyflare wrote: Tone innit. Just like what he's saying and the way he's saying it. Probably because it's just copying me and he called me town so I won't interfere. Lol that’s fair. I think it would be awesome if Exo and Calix (spelled it right! Yay) were in qt and were like “we both may get lynched. Let’s shitfight and Jedi mindtrick folks.” | ||
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On April 10 2018 21:11 ExO_ wrote: On the contrary, I think his read on me is weak, but towards EoD and since he hasn't done very much. He kinda afked his vote on me and left. I get having a life outside of mafia, but this Rayn doesn't seem like Town Rayn trying to solve the game. Humor me -- based on the past 24 hours, why do you think Rayn is town? The only thing I didn’t like about rayn was his final read on Eversince. I didn’t think Calix’ case was that good. The only things Calix had right in it were weird reads. Arguably, you can say her point about Eversince only scumming AFK’s is true. But so is the entire game soooooo....yeah. I read you scummy for your first case. Scumming you for your case wasn’t weak, your case was that bad. | ||
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On April 10 2018 21:19 Calix wrote: You know, when pretty much EVERY single scum theory people have made with mafia!Calix consists of “SHE IS HARDCORE BUSSING/ BEING HARDCORE BUSSED” then maybe said theories are shite and something is horribly fucked up somewhere  I don’t remember that in any case.....  But yeah that would be weird. | ||
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On April 10 2018 21:25 ExO_ wrote: So you admitted earlier you hadn't read my filter. How would you know why I voted n00b without reading my filter? You criticized me for voting n00bking but never read my filter to see why I voted him -- and have tried to use my vote on n00b to say I'm scum. I don't believe you. I don't believe you were waiting for an explanation for my vote on n00b, I believe you're trying to use my vote after the fact on EoD to say I was scum, when I'm not. You're scum Calix .... she posted about your naked/ninja vote a longtime ago. It’s definitely not after the fact. Well, far after anyway. | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:44 Damdred wrote: Btw GB oats and vivax should never be the lunch today, to lynch into them is folly Is this still true for you? Does this affect your view of HF? What is your view on HF? On April 10 2018 04:09 Damdred wrote: I have 8 minutes on break, my assessment might be horrible based on lack of information. But just glancing at Vivax filter I don't think he's the best lynch, hes given what he thinks on people and hasn't exactly been tight lipped so id be willing to reevaluate after today but I just think he's town atm. I dont like Ryan however, hes sort of just existing and forgetting reads he makes and halfheartidly pushing things. Its just weird some of his progressions and how he ended up where he is I guess? I dont agree that calix is the towniest person in the thread though... I feel like you are trying to allude to more than Calix is mafia here. Can you elaborate? On April 10 2018 04:13 Damdred wrote: Also just fut feeling the skynx wagon is kinda weird though, think its a scrappy lynch to What’s scrappy mean? And weird? | ||
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But nooniansong lives!!! | ||
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Are you still at mafia = Calix, CH*, You’re townreading HF, Damdred (annoyed), Vivax I can’t really tell what you think about rayn or Eversince or Skynx. | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:18 Vivax wrote: I voted him right before I posted that in fact. You don't sound like slam but you could be I suppose. And nooniansong is a kush smurf and I hope that kush is dead is an actual joke cause that would suck. Do HF and you mostly fight it out like this every game? I don’t play often but I remember two of my last few games you two did this and were both town. One of the games you were blue, fakeclaimed, he CC’d as vigi (actually was) and town killed you. Basically, is this not very normal so I should look deeper into this or not? I think you’re both town. | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:32 Eversince wrote: The last bit is that he didn't get it at all tell me I was RB'd which stands as Rayn is still town. Generally speaking, you receive a gun and can use to the next night. The receiver would be pm’d at night deadline. | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:34 Vivax wrote: There are games where I get to treat him as town without wanting to murder him but typically those are not the games where he tries to mislynch me so hard. His strength as mafia is that he can find some inconsistency or mistake to push in anyone he wants and he tried to do that with me while ignoring the big picture. And he did that with another bunch of my TRs, although I'm not that sure about the rayn TR anymore. I see. I think he tends to find little inconsistencies as town too though. I’ve seen him in the last couple games misinterpret a post and try to bury people for it. Twisting the words as the victim would always say. I assume rayns fall is his eod? Or the last slew of posts? | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:38 Vivax wrote: Oh yeah I missed the last bit and it's super confusing. What does it mean that it's optional? For you or for the host? All the roles say optional or not. Godfather role says “not optional”. Presumably it refers to the skill don’t have to do it or must. It’s the spoilered tag just above the player list. | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:39 Eversince wrote: I mistoke my role pm that's why I didn't think I had one. The fact there was not double kp and Rayn didn't get it cofirms him town for me. It will confirm both of us after one of us flips. You’re wrong. Mafia could have just rb’d you to make sure you didn’t do anything unexpected. And even if he did get the gun, he probably wouldn’t be able to use it till the next night. | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:44 Eversince wrote: I know, but mafia!Rayn has no reason to not use the bullet. Town!Rayn not getting the gun because of RB is fine. Mafia left me alive because 80% of the thread wants my head. Town!Rayn not vigging somebody either means he's lying about not getting it (Mafia!Rayn just blast somebody last night) makes no sense. But Rayn isn't leading the thread right now so it makes enough sense to leave him alive. I'm easy to leave alive because a lot of people think I'm mafia. I don’t think you understand how night actions work. Hosts wait till end if the night to resolve. That way people can decide what to do till :59. They won’t then PM the recipient “hey here’s a gun you want to use it now?” And put the game on hold till the person pm’s them back. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok so the two scenarios here is that either Ever is town, completely misread her rolepm multiple times, doesnt know how her actions work OR ever is mafia and completely botching the fakeclaim Sure. But she is uncc’d. And completely untrustworthy so will have almost zero influence. Plus if she’s truthful mafia is using up the rub on her till they kill her. If there’s a medic or cop or whatever they have free reign. | ||
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##Vote Skynx. Add GB’s dying wish and killing n00b for no reason to the scummy list. Plus he hasn’t done anything and will probably let this Eversince distraction keep going. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:25 currentlyhomeless wrote: yeah or ever is scum and we lose the game cause scrubs never lynch obvious scum because of “reasons” NOW you’re willing to talk about Skynx and Calix..... | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:27 Oatsmaster wrote: by uncc'd you mean she managed to pick one of the many roles that arent in this game? Or the real GS doesnt wanna out themselves because right now, they dont need to? Those could be true realities. I think she’s town GS and is derping. Lots of townies derp massively concerning their claims. Scum generally have polished ones. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:28 Vivax wrote: But of course HF wouldn't answer to his own mistake when he can just keep delivering truckloads of words to bury them with. Have any HF posts that you can point out to me you don’t like? Or groups since with him it will never be singular. Ones that don’t involve you anyway? I mostly ignore the stuff he says about you, but I like the rest of what he does. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:36 currentlyhomeless wrote: aight im pretty close to giving up on rhis game time to go ham it up at work, i’ll bbl to see what you scrubs cook up this time Give up?? You haven’t barely started. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:39 Vivax wrote: HF/Rayn/Calix my current guess with chance of skynx somewhere. Let’s kill Calix. Oats should be on board. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:41 Eversince wrote: TS what's Calix done to get everyone so rallied up? I caught up but she seemed ok to me. Did I miss something? HF found it. Posts #1003 & #1004 (going off memory but were just quotes from Calix). Read them, tell me how they’re different. Also the vote drop and freeze is unforgivably scummy for me. Both reasoning and lack of next target. | ||
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On April 10 2018 02:20 Calix wrote: I meant with wagons. Vivax/ Skynx tied. Calix/ n00b two votes. I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere. I concluded Vivax because his wagon is the one that's most static and somehow hasn't exceeded three votes despite few people properly town-reading or going out on a leg to defend him. Explain why you magically came up with the opposite conclusion now? On April 10 2018 05:46 Holyflare wrote: On April 10 2018 04:12 Calix wrote: I actually agree with you. It is why I am starting to think Vivax might be town despite what I think of his posting. Because there have been a lot of posts but the votes have been weirdly static. Mafia is either AFK or they do not give a damn. Since you could lynch almost anyone here if you wanted to, I think it's option #2. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:39 Tubesock wrote: Oats, you prefer lynching Calix over Eversince by chance? What’s your certainty level? | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:16 Eversince wrote: I actually think this is a fair point. So many options it wasn't a decided lynch at all and town is all over the place. Either HF is trying to decide and commit to something or mafia!HF is trying to direct it. I assume it's town!HF just not having the time to deal with it. Personal opinion. Not the same take away I got. Calix- “4 STATIC wagons, one must be scum. Probably Vivax” Time. Vivax gets another vote or whatever. Calix -“Vivax wagon is weirdlySTATIC he must be town. | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:19 Eversince wrote: Can we drop the fact I stayed past when I said I was going to sleep already? How you view me as mafia when I stuck around when I said I was going to leave to explain my point of view is hilariously bad. That’s not what he’s saying. He’s saying you were pressed for time (since you said you were leaving) so didn’t have the time to properly find a fake claim to claim. You’re not going to convince them. Talk to him about Calix or rayn or something other than you. | ||
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On April 09 2018 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is actually the most terrible single post in thread: - follow thread sentiment, check - make up your own reason so you look like you're doing something, check - doesn't make any sense at all, check | ||
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On April 11 2018 12:41 Eversince wrote: and yeah CH attacks me for much the same reasons you do. Look, You have no vote one yourself yet yes? What’s the second sentence mean? Oats is voting Calix. If CH and Oats are doing the same things, why are you townreading one and have the other as your primary lynch target? | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:51 Eversince wrote: I don't like Oats at all. I don't like CH except I feel ok with the exchange we just had. But it's been what he's done a few times. I'm sitting on it for now because I don't want to OMGUS. GB fell off the radar. which might be rl (assumed). Damdred's been non exsistant this game. The problem I'm having this game is a lot of the active players I don't feel like are mafia. Which leaves me to lynch into the people that I do know that feel like they should be doing more (Screw meta reads.) or lynching in-actives. Someone asked (Oats I think) who you want to lynch. You respond with the above. To me, it looks like you want to kill Oats. CH is ok with the exchange you just had, despite having similar one with Oats. If that isn’t the case, who would be your 1,2,3 choices for lynch. You have a gun that expires in minutes, who you killing? | ||
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On April 11 2018 13:01 Tubesock wrote: Oats, I don’t think rayn is sleeping. What do you mean? I didn’t think his last big post was weird at all. I liked his case on Exo and the rest of his comments. Like the eod criticism he got and his activity level. Especially when it’s from someone who has half the activity. But that’s speaking from someone who’s been lynched many times because I had to leave thread for extended periods of time. Bleh, I’m poor wordcrafter. I think his frustration concerning his eod and activity level is valid and genuine. It isn’t weird. | ||
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On April 11 2018 13:10 Oatsmaster wrote: hes not really getting a lot of pressure for disappearing so its just a little weird. I think repeating his stuff on Exo wasnt necessary because it literally went nowhere and nobody is even thinking about exo right now Is that why you think he’s mafia? I’m pretty sure it was a response to Vivax or HF. I’ll go look. | ||
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Yeah kinda weird it being a super long wall post for a simplistic question. But I don’t see how that makes him cum. | ||
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On April 11 2018 14:15 Oatsmaster wrote: It's weird yeah that's what I said right? I mean if I had to pick a side then yeah You’re making it sound like you null rayn. I don’t know why I thought you were more than nullxscummish. Is he wrong on Exo? Aside from weird response. Did you think the post was accurate? | ||
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On April 11 2018 17:20 currentlyhomeless wrote: me reading gb as scum didn’t make hf town wtf i thought he and hf were scum together. it was ever being weird and then hf jumping on ever with very similar thought process to my own which made me post this: then I waffled on ever cause I was like na fuck it but niw I’m back to thinking ever is scum cause the claim makes 0 sense and there are too many “mistakes” also if i were scum what kind of moron would i be shoot one of my only scumreads n1? btw anyone who still thinks ever is town pls entertain me for a bit ever knew that there was only 1 nk and posted about it after the flip which means if ever is town, they would have read the daypost which said GB died but then less than 3 (?) hours later when pressed for reads ever slipped and included GB how would ever know there was only 1 nk but not know who it was if ever is town i seriously don’t believe a townie would forget that fast How does a mafioso forget who their night kill target was?? | ||
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Why not just treat her like an uncc’d blue? | ||
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On April 11 2018 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well how does someone who just said she knows i didn't shoot anyone forget that they actually DID look at the daypost? Like fucking confirmed looked at the daypost. I have no idea. I have no idea how she made most of her posts. Her posts don’t make sense as town or mafia. You guys can lynch her if you want. I doubt I could stop you anyway. But she’s probably going to flip town gun smith. | ||
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On April 11 2018 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: The only way she would know, without looking at the daypost, that i "didn't shoot anyone" as she claims, is if she didn't actually even try to give me a gun. Why would scum Eversince then claim she sent it and not say “well, must have been roll blocked”? Instead she’s like “rayn is confirmed town.” Taking away a possible mislynch. Gah I had questions for you too. Can’t remember them. | ||
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tl;dr 1. Eversince is busy and sleep deprived. 2. Sleep deprivation makes for dumb and forgetful. 3. Saw GB nk, but forgetful and limited brain resources spent focusing on rayn. 4. If actually blue, better she absorbs rb than other blue. 5. If scum will die soon anyway I think the world we live in is the one where Eversince is insanely busy in real life. If she’s the one I am thinking of she’s friends with rsoultin from another website. She said she was busy due to career then. She has said this much this game (“I work 12-18 hrs”)and since she doesn’t play often, I think it also backs up this reality. working 12-18 hrs a day will drain you. And trying to play this adds to that. Plus without sleeping that makes you forgetful and do dumb things. I believe her when she said she had to leave prior to deadline. And at the time I think she was the leading lynch. So yeah she was rightfully afraid and claimed. I would have too. Concerning reading the daypost. It was clear she was concentrating on rayn getting the gun and shooting someone. I can see a sleep deprived person checking to see if two kills were made and glossing over who died. Then she obsessed over why that confirms her and rayn as town. She said she forgot GB was the nk. She admitted reading that and forgot. Cause she was focused on rayn. Same reasoning explains her misreading of her pm or missing if she starts with a gun or not. I understand the arguments. And in a vacuum I do agree not understanding if you start with a gun or not or if she still has a gun is indicative of a fakeclaimer. I get it. I think my world is truth. I also think that if she is liar liar pants afire, the real blue is freely able to do whatever they can do, and when the time comes they can claim and we will kill Ever first cause there is literally no way to have a worse claim than hers. Or a real blue dies then she will be lynched. If she is town, mafia already knows and are either roleblocking her or will kill her. And if that’s true then if there is another blue (in a 13 player game generally there are two) they will operate without needing to consider being roleblocked. I think that’s fucking awesome for town and out weighs the negative of her actually being mafia. | ||
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On April 12 2018 08:43 currentlyhomeless wrote: aight im back vivax i found some long brown hair (like 5-6 cm) stuck down there when i was cleaning. reminded me of you my hair is black btw ok i’ll keep this short and sweet. time for me to bring out the hammer to beat into some skulls for all you scrubby townies who are probably sheeping scum right now on th wrong vote, ever since my unbeatable case on eversince they have disappeared from the thread now you tell me why would a player constantly talk about themselves when they are in thread and receving pressure that looks defendable and actually refuse to give real scumreads when explicitly called out, then when they get serious lynch pressure and they basically get outed as scum they stop playing the game hint if your answer is anything except “because ever is scum” youre wrong and you should feel bad and then you should sheep me anyway even if you punlicly say im weong cause youre too proud to admit that this ballwasher is better at this game than you First, outside of mafia or town, no one actually gives a shit who you are. Secondly, when Ever dies blue, you’re next. | ||
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Does your gut say ES is scum now? I get normal circumstances, a few key details ( have a gun, don’t have a gun) would indicate faker. But with the conversation you had with ES yesterday. And the answers to other questions, do you really think she was being sinister? I don’t think you can fake all that. From her reads to her claim. None of it. I guess it’s too scummy to be scum but I don’t even think it’s that. I truly think it’s sleep deprivation. None of her reads are logic or evidence based. All are tone reads. Every single one of them. I even asked her about a point on Calix and she responded like it was about HF. I don’t get how you can be on board with me, and then you see one more mistake and all of a sudden she’s scum? | ||
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Does your gut say ES is scum now? I get normal circumstances, a few key details ( have a gun, don’t have a gun) would indicate faker. But with the conversation you had with ES yesterday. And the answers to other questions, do you really think she was being sinister? I don’t think you can fake all that. From her reads to her claim. None of it. I guess it’s too scummy to be scum but I don’t even think it’s that. I truly think it’s sleep deprivation. None of her reads are logic or evidence based. All are tone reads. Every single one of them. I even asked her about a point on Calix and she responded like it was about HF. I don’t get how you can be on board with me, and then you see one more mistake and all of a sudden she’s scum? | ||
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On April 12 2018 10:01 currentlyhomeless wrote: so i am scum with calix and skynx and exo and damdred too ok scrublord whatever you say Aww you’re so edgy. Thanks for the new insult. Most people just call me retarded or Tubesucks. | ||
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CALIX Scumreads Vivax all day one. To justify her vote, she says the wagons are too static not to have one being mafia. Probably Vivax’s. Then later says Vivax is town because the votes are weirdly static. She unvotes and is frozen on who to vote next. Scumreading Vivax Evidence + Show Spoiler [First Vivax Case] + On April 08 2018 18:08 Calix wrote: Have access to a keyboard, thank God. Vivax might be mafia because of how he went about his GB read. First he says that "GB saying he can't post for a while after posting a bunch at the start of the day reads defensive to me" which is typically a mafia trait, and when Damdred questions this read and implies a negative view of Vivax because of it ("kinda a meh read from you"), Vivax's reaction is to call both GB AND Damdred town. Weird progression. As I see it, it's one of these scenarios: A) Vivax was always town-reading GB, in which case why did he make the comment about GB being defensive? B) Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind. C) Some other scenario I haven't accounted for. However the two I listed were the ones that came to mind when I first read the exchange. So yes, I'd like an explanation. I also don't see how the reason he gave for Damdred being town ("I don't see why you wouldn't partially agree with me if you were mafia") is AI. I agree that GlowingBear is more likely town than not. His posting reads as spontaneous and unplanned to me. As for his case on me, it's dumb because I DID respond to his vote (after he actually gave reasons) and Eversince's assumption that it was a spite vote was more interesting than a naked vote. I also want a response from Eversince that clarifies that random town-read she doled out to one of GB/ Calix. Both GB and I asked about that and she ignored both queries to post some irrelevant nonsense. So I am asking again. + Show Spoiler [thought Vivax, need reeval] + On April 09 2018 02:54 Calix wrote: Are you saying Skynx and I are on a scum team here? As for my reads, I think you and Skynx are town. I thought rayn and Vivax were scummy but I need to reevaluate given recent posts. Didn't like Eversince ignoring the 'town read' questions. Don't have a strong opinion on anyone else really, HF non-vote aside. + Show Spoiler [Vivax is a better lynch] + On April 09 2018 19:19 Calix wrote: After EXTENSIVE research - which involved opening some kush filters and ctrl+f-ing "HF" - I have concluded that I only found one game (Holyf***e Mafia) where kush correctly read HF as mafia. But I only looked at some of his recent games in the database. Also I have no experience with this guy so I do not know how to interpret his current behaviour. I would probably not lynch ExO_ or currentlyhomeless unless Eversince does something townie instead of just "okay". And even then, I think Vivax is a better lynch since he has yet to say anything intelligent and has nothing but "okay" posts. Which actually makes him more likely to be mafia now that I reflect on his posting because mafia are always trying to make "okay" posts and not much else. The point about Eversince having a dodgy read on HF is good but I maintain that the Oats read is whack. I just do not comprehend how someone writes that about a player and doesn't think there's mafia motive there. + Show Spoiler [Vivax vote + reasoning] + On April 09 2018 22:17 Calix wrote: I'm not feeling anything in particular. I think people misread the language I use as being 'angry' when it's just how I talk. If I was actually angry then it would be obvious. I agree with his Vivax posts. However I don't really trust him. He accused rayn after I did. Now he accuses Vivax alongside me. Looks like a pattern. Nothing substantial to back it up, just wary. I would probably not want to lynch him today though. Vivax looks well bad even without HF's points. + Show Spoiler [Going hard on Vivax] + On April 09 2018 22:35 Calix wrote: Admitting Vivax is scum?  Why did you call my reads 'good' when I'm going hard at Vivax? Who you town-read? I >.> + Show Spoiler [close to parking vote forever] + On April 09 2018 23:53 Calix wrote: If you're 'trying to end up on X' with rayn then that's not you thinking rayn is sheepable, is it? And why is ExO_ a no-go? Are you ever going to explain your reads? Because I'm this close to parking my vote on you forever. On April 09 2018 23:57 Calix wrote: So you share a QT with ExO_, that's nice + Show Spoiler [Vivax hasn’t done anything townie] + On April 10 2018 01:16 Calix wrote: I don't like the push for Skynx when Vivax hasn't actually done anything townie. He's just become weirdly emotional. Weird because HF wasn't actually bullying him. So I don't relate to why he got upset. + Show Spoiler [explains to Oats V read] + On April 10 2018 01:23 Calix wrote: Isn't this just asking why I think Vivax is mafia? My current opinion is that his posts are bland and uninteresting. He hasn't said anything engaging. He has an entire scum-team theory yet I do not give a damn about ANY of his scum-reads. Instead of pushing his reads, he takes on this defeatist attitude about convincing others to vote for his reads. He called me town despite saying I was pushing rayn for false reasons (which is not a town tell ever) and never explained that despite me asking him about 39580670 times. His reaction to being called out about the "HF pushing me because a mafia's on the line" quote looks like flailing scum to me. I also don't get why he's getting emotional. Which is not necessarily scummy by itself but it's not helping me think he's town. + Show Spoiler [want V dead or spew town] + On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote: Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. + Show Spoiler [Resistance to V lynch] + On April 10 2018 02:08 Calix wrote: No because I still don't think he's done anything that 'townie' and his posts are more "meh" which is why I am happy with my current vote. If you think I am wrong then point out where he's done something townie and ELI5. I could be tunneled with "Vivax is underperforming mafia", I will admit, but I don't see anything convincing for him being town. Furthermore, there is also a lot of resistance to his lynch and some pushes towards Skynx (who I think is town but we'll see how he responds to this EOD), n00b (I agree he hasn't posted many explicit reads but I am not convinced this is AI for him), myself (pretty terrible D1 lynch if I say so myself), etc. @n00bking, I do not know much about Oats' play so I couldn't tell you, lol. + Show Spoiler [static votes mean V scum] + On April 10 2018 02:20 Calix wrote: I meant with wagons. Vivax/ Skynx tied. Calix/ n00b two votes. I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere. I concluded Vivax because his wagon is the one that's most static and somehow hasn't exceeded three votes despite few people properly town-reading or going out on a leg to defend him. Basically for 47 of the 48 hours of D1 Calix spent scumreading Vivax. You can see her talking about him quite a lot, she also interacts with him. Her points are reasonable enough. she has ample time and content to re-evaluate. She maintains his scumminess. Of note are the last two posts “Reistance to V lynch” and “static votes mean V scum”. She basically says that because Vivax only has three votes, mafia must be resisting. Despite also saying no one is really going out on a limb to defend him. Scondary Scum Reads + Show Spoiler [vote for some AFK scrub] + On April 09 2018 03:05 Calix wrote: What's bad is you scum-reading myself and my town-read. For shame No idea. Whoever I'm scum-reading by EOD. And if I don't have a proper mafia read by EOD then I'll vote for some AFK scrub. + Show Spoiler [Consider some AFK] + On April 09 2018 04:59 Calix wrote: I'm calm. I'm not sure why people keep thinking I'm not. Must have the verbal equivalent of Resting Bitch Face And yes, this game is ridiculously slow. Can't wait for the inevitable CFDs. Aforementioned slowness is why I am considering lynching some AFK dude even if they're not my strongest scum-read. Lynching a top-poster on D1 is usually a bad idea. And rayn's filter is bigger than mine is. Since you are so concerned about lynch suspects, who among the 'low posters' would you want to lynch aside from Skynx? + Show Spoiler [fine w/afk lynch] + On April 09 2018 05:29 Calix wrote: I'd be fine with an AFK lynch but saying it's gonna 'motivate him' is dumb. Dude has no problem posting as both alignments. + Show Spoiler [scum Exo, maybe Damdred] + On April 10 2018 01:40 Calix wrote: ExO_. I haven't filtered him since he's not up for lynch at all but he was making some weird, timid posts when I was with him in the thread. The one where he tells Vivax and I to call it off when Vivax and I were not even fighting was out of place. And he hadn't called me town before that post. Otherwise he has "safe" reads and "okay" posts. Fits the profile of mafia skirting by. Damdred possible third. + Show Spoiler [no other mafia] + On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote: Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. + Show Spoiler [Let’s vote Exo or something] + On April 10 2018 04:17 Calix wrote: We could like, vote ExO or something. A lot of people here think he's scummy but he's never really gained traction. Here is what I could find of her scum reads and what would happen if Vivax couldn’t be lynched. Three times she said she would be fine with voting an AFK player. She scums Exo and maybe Damdred. Damdred is basically an AFK dude. Her posts did seem like she was confident that she would have a secondary target. Comfortable with AFK, Exo, or Damdred. The Vivax Towning + Show Spoiler [Weirdly static is town] + On April 10 2018 04:12 Calix wrote: I actually agree with you. It is why I am starting to think Vivax might be town despite what I think of his posting. Because there have been a lot of posts but the votes have been weirdly static. Mafia is either AFK or they do not give a damn. Since you could lynch almost anyone here if you wanted to, I think it's option #2. This is the singular post and argument that unravels 47 hours of thinking and deliberating. Nothing really changed, the votes were still static. Even IF she never posted or thought static votes were indicative of resistance, I don’t see how town!Calix could override her previous thinking. Vote Freeze + Show Spoiler [UNVOTING WITHOUT SOMEONE IS DUMB] + On April 09 2018 04:29 Calix wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On April 09 2018 04:19 GlowingBear wrote: Uhm, let me express myself better. I'm not arguing about your townread on me. I think it's okay. Skynx, in the other hand, is a townread for a couple of posts that in my POV doesn't make him a strong townread. What he did can be faked (calling someone out then reevaluating right after it, then peacing out). I'd never give a townread on him because of that. I'm okay with your reevaluation process, but until you reevaluate, shouldn't you be lynching who you think it's mafia for now? I'm not lecturing you on anything. I'm as a good player as you are. You have to reevaluate rayn and vivax. I have to reevaluate you. But if you asked me: "who would you be lynching right now?", I would say "Calix", regardless of the need of reevaluation. You have the same weak scumreads as me, but you're not comitting in being lynching anyone. That's... evasive. Non-committal. That is what sounds scummy to me. I hate to break the news to you, but I'm not you. Therefore saying that I'm scummy for reading people for different reasons to you is an invalid argument. I am happy with my town-read on Skynx. Deal with it. Yes, I haven't unvoted and have no plans to. Because unvoting without having someone else to vote for is dumb. But right now, I'm not going to push for a lynch on someone that I am less sure of. + Show Spoiler + So because I didn't respond to a generic question in the way you would, I'm scummy? Again, I'm not you, and accusing me on the basis that I didn't say "Vivax/ rayn" for "best lynches" is pedantic. And non-committal? I've taken more stances than most of the game has. I'm not going to feign confidence in my scum-reads if I am not actually as confident as I used to be. + Show Spoiler [waffling n00b] + On April 10 2018 04:25 Calix wrote: Well I unvoted you anyway. I'm now waffling over whether to vote n00b or not. And it's annoying. + Show Spoiler [DON’T know who to vote] + Earlier in the day Calix said unvoting someone unless you have someone else in mind is dumb. I think she actually believes that. There’s zero mafia motivation to lie about it. She had other scum reads and options she REPEATEDLY mentioned. She waffled voting n00b whom she NEVER scummed. She was willing to follow her previous strongest scum read onto n00b. No fucking way will town be willing to vote someone they’ve only said towny things about. It would have been one thing if n00b was an AFKer. But in the posts about AFKers she says lynching an afk dude is better than a top poster (rayn at the time). N00b may not have been a top poster, but he was active and she towned him!! There would be zero consideration for lynching n00b let alone “waffling”. Despite showing confidence she would just vote an afk if nothing else presented she froze on no one. She unvoted someone she spent a lot of time scumreading without another target. She says that’s dumb. It’s dumb for town, but when you’re mafia you need to look good as possible. And she knew she screwed up when she got off the wagon and was unsure who to vote because all votes would look bad. 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On April 12 2018 13:59 Calix wrote: “Can you mislynch one more person before we finally kill obvious mafia?” - Translated this post for you. Why kill Eversince tomorrow when you can do it now and NOT ML? :D Anyone on the fence here needs to consider that Eversince is being defended so incredibly hard right now. Despite having worst claim in history. She probably has an important scum role. Meanwhile NOBODY has been defending me. There have been NO comments about how I am “too scummy to be scum” or “just made a mistake”. Nobody has said that my actions are so blatantly bad that mafia would never do it. The people on Eversince train just think she is MORE mafia than I am. But when it’s Eversince she suddenly gets hard defended by Tubesock, ExO, Oats, Skynx to an extent, etc. Seriously look into this when I flip town. I am the only person hard defending her. Nice try. Every single post ES made could be used in a case on her. Either not reading, or making really weird conclusions. Every single one. That’s a huge difference between your singular mistake. And the other stuff on you isn’t about “mistakes”. | ||
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So, fine, HF tried and tried and tried really hard to kill you. Oats disagrees in the effort level. How is he scum for that? | ||
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On April 13 2018 08:13 Vivax wrote: Also he literally just said that rayn is mafia with a gun if we're unlucky and a few pages after he's his only townread? You’re too jaded. He’s literally saying that if we are unlucky then rayn is mafia, mafia believed ES would pass the gun to rayn so didn’t rb, and ES sent rayn the gun. That’s a fucking possibility. Unlikely, but possible. If he believed it to be probable then he might have used different phraseology. But that statement can be made by anyone. Nothing in this game has ruled out that possibility, however unlikely it is. | ||
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On April 13 2018 08:24 currentlyhomeless wrote: we could policy lynch rayn tomorrow that gets rid of the scum with gun possibility We could lynch you. You’re only playing because you can’t survive with HF and rayn on you. | ||
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I’ve never called you names or said anything you said was stupid or terrible. You ever complain again about toxic environments I am going to lose my mother fucking shit you mother fucking hypocrite. Calix with great certainty. Skynx under that, but could be town. Exo, Currentlyhomeless, Vivax is the rest. Good night. | ||
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On April 13 2018 13:08 Vivax wrote: Why such a low opinion of CH? But yes I agree that'd be the right course of action. I don’t like trolls. And didn’t like his HF read. But Eureka I’ve seen it, CH is town. | ||
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Calix, you softed blue. You’re the lynch, if you’re blue you need to claim now rather than later. | ||
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On April 14 2018 04:31 Holyflare wrote: ##vote raynpelikoneet unlucky mateI don’t think I get it. Because they killed afk slot or because Hopeless specifically? | ||
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On April 12 2018 14:26 Calix wrote: ES and Damdred will probably vote me so I am very likely just dead here. People seriously need to give thought to the insane amount of ES defence compared to people who are actually defending me (AKA nobody). And think about why that might be the case. Anyway I am off. Not claiming role because if I get lynched over scummy AF Eversince then I played bad and deserve lynch, anyway. Break a leg :p Last post of day 2. | ||
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Never crumbed. But it’s why I really wanted ES to live and soak up rb’s so in th off chance I got shot I wouldn’t die. I’m not sure I believe there’s three blues this game. Although parity cop and gunsmith is nerfed so maybe? | ||
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On April 14 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote: If rayn has a gun he wouldn't shoot it now. He would shoot it tomorrow night after a mislynch today. It's more likely that mafia blocked Eversince though. Why do you assume he would have a gun? I don’t think he has a gun. HF over rayn cause feels. But I town them both. I don’t think I believe you. But I’ll think more about it. I don’t think we can have three blues even if they’re paired down. | ||
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On April 14 2018 05:48 Skynx wrote: Why did you claim Tube? You were tr'd by almost all except for mafia no? I was planning to claim today anyway. Although I wanted to wait till Calix responded because I think she softed in a scummy way and might claim. And I’m never the night kill. Not once has that happened in 15 games or so. | ||
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On April 14 2018 05:51 Skynx wrote: I have to check back to see if ES declared it openly before n1 flip. I'd assume so cuz everyone asked rayn if he had the gun. I don't think more than 3 ppl noticed your poll. She declared giving it after flip. | ||
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On April 14 2018 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tubesock i think you made a mistake. At least you should have claimed only blue. Yeah probably. I was thinking there could only be two and with ES dead they’d stack rb anyway. | ||
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On April 14 2018 06:06 Skynx wrote: Anyway, I believe both claims right now. No reason not to really, setup looks fine to me and Calix is the lynch after HF regardless if she claims or not. If we do that we only lose if mafia is exactly Calix+rayn which i don't find very likely cuz of how embarrassed Calix looked after her ragepush on rayn was dismissed so rapidly. I think following is trademark HF scumtell, he faked it well on eod1 though I'll give him credit. I feel like I just read two townHF games where he didn’t have any town reads and still didn’t yell at people for being scum. I think this metric is obsolete. | ||
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On April 14 2018 06:33 Calix wrote: It is also extremely tilting to have one of the biggest filters in the game where most of that filter contains reads and content (which everyone ignores when it comes to 'reading' me) and yet still get called out and mafia-read because I dare to not post occasionally. I would greatly appreciate it if people stopped using activity as a 'tell'. You should all relate to having full-time jobs or generally being busy so it's rather silly, honestly. While I know people said you dropped off, but that’s not he primary reason you’re being scummed. It’s your EOD1. Your activity doesn’t matter but starting off active and dropping off is more scum indicative than town. But again, the primary reason isn’t your activity. | ||
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On April 14 2018 06:52 Calix wrote: Great, how's that working out for you? You have never reconsidered - incorrectly and arrogantly, if you are town - and have not deigned to analyse my D2 content so there is zero way for your read to ever progress. Hardly anyone has. It is like I am talking to walls. Feeling like nobody gives a shit about what you are saying usually makes for a dull game. Lol people have been telling me they don’t read any of my posts either. Get over it. I hated your last day 2 post. The rest of your posts were whining that people can’t scum you because of bussing/getting bussed. Not doing towny stuff. | ||
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I was so irritated with you and that contributed to my unfortunate blow up on Vivax. I would never have seen it if it weren’t for HF though (his night claiming plays he’s been doing lately) and you playing a lot like BH. I hope you never reveal who you are. HF can’t lynch you this game. PSDS, if you were seriously going to plynch rayn then I take it all back lol | ||
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On April 14 2018 07:26 Calix wrote: "Everyone's been ignoring me for some reason but let me take the piss when you get frustrated at people ignoring you too!" Your 'hatred' of my last D2 post is based on a false assumption and that's a terrible summary of my D2 posts. You incorrectly and arrogantly killed Eversince and I think you should die for it. Saying “I won’t even claim my role” is either a soft claim or a clear attempt at manipulation which is scummy as fuck in either case. | ||
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Lol I didn’t think he knew what was happening when he /endorsed. I was hopeful though. | ||
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On April 14 2018 10:13 ExO_ wrote: CH do you believe Im parity cop or not? If you do, Why the fuck are you focusibg on everyone but Rayn/HF? This highly unlikely shit about miller or framer is such garbage. Scum agenda 20000% to push a vote outside of HF or Rayn. There is confirmed mafia between two players. If you are town you need to be discussing hf and rayn right the fuck now You are wrong. Unmolested checks means 1of HF or rayn is mafia. That’s correct. But I think it’s pretty likely that mafia has a framer or Godfather. Or if not we could have a miller. We have a pretty good POE pool now. Basically, two of Calix, Skynx and Vivax can be scum and at most 1 scum in HF or rayn with great odds of both HF and rayn being town. CurrentlyHomeless is confirmed to me cause we mindmelded. So tldr, we have 66% to hit scum outside of the HF/rayn pool or 50/50 at best in just rayn or HF. | ||
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Yup that’s a possibility. They could both be scum. I don’t think that’s likely, but sure. | ||
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On April 14 2018 10:36 ExO_ wrote: I hadnt considered gf, this is the only reasoning id buy for the check to be innaccurate— but it changes very little. It still means scum is there, confirmed. Well as someone who has died because I was framed and checked, I’m very aware of the possibility of a framer framing a town for a scum return. | ||
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On April 14 2018 13:32 Vivax wrote: HF 80% of the times if you really want to argue it's only one of them. No idea why TS just craps on the possibility of HF being mafia. Probably likes it too much up his arse. CH is just trolling nothing else makes sense to me regarding what he said about me. Maybe he's trying to make a point about the way I was playing but I couldn't care less. Lol he’s not trolling. While I don’t necessarily agree it was a scum claim. It’s not good. But we can revisit you later. | ||
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On April 14 2018 14:11 Vivax wrote: What's your indication for the permanent intracorporeal colonoscopy? If you’ve been reading you would have seen it. It’s probably within my last ten posts. | ||
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On April 14 2018 17:53 Skynx wrote: Bah Tubesock is full tinfoil mode and homeless is mafia. It's not too bad actually, if rayn and Oats are sane we should still have the lynch. I get way more tinfoil than this game. CH is the only person alive in the game I think is truly 100% town. Not even Exo is and I believe his claim. | ||
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On April 14 2018 19:00 Holyflare wrote: Amount of people that have called me town with a potential red check is incredibly high. Too high maybe. Why? It’s no different than your no townreads. I think your 90’s percentile town. Same rayn. But you’re not confirmed. | ||
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On April 14 2018 19:23 currentlyhomeless wrote: yo tube I want your opinion skynx calix oats vivax which one most likely to be scum? Skynx, Calix, Vivax, Oats in that order. With Oats townread. | ||
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On April 14 2018 19:49 currentlyhomeless wrote: ok i actually think vivax is best chance for scum today but i think i am tunneled atm Yeah I’m not seeing him objectively. Rereading seems like his reads are basically if someone is nice to him they’re town and questions him they’re mafia. That seems like a bad way to play as scum lol | ||
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The other was the Exo case which Oats talked about as super weird. But I thought he was talking to three different people in one post, so that’s not that weird at all. And I really liked the rest of what he said. Well, except the whole kill ES bits. But I understand. | ||
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On April 14 2018 20:06 currentlyhomeless wrote: you know whats interesting about skynx after i schooled him in math he just sort of slinked off also why did he say he was excited about catching scumflare when he literally had one reason to vote hf Yeah. I’d be down for killing Skynx. At least Calix is playing and trying something. | ||
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On April 14 2018 20:18 Calix wrote: ??? Don't you think I am 100% mafia though? lol. Close enough. But Skynx high as well. And you’re playing. I have been wrong before, unless I’m mistaken. | ||
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On April 14 2018 20:37 currentlyhomeless wrote: implicate who? i think i missed what you are talking about here Lol it’s two hours past my bedtime. Talking about rayn. | ||
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You can just about take any of his comments at random and research it, and it’s because he misread or misconstrues it. 0% chance I will vote for CurrentlyHomeless for the rest of the game. Holyflare might as well be 0%. So they’re basically confirmed. And I think Calix is most likely town. rayn kinda too, but he has had slips. That leaves Skynx, Vivax, Oats. With rayn alternate. But I could probably change my thinking in 15 minutes. | ||
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On April 15 2018 09:09 Holyflare wrote: I want rayn to be town, I really do. I hope he is actually free tomorrow so we can chat. Agreed. I’m parked on Skynx for today and will take the next couple days while I’m alive thinking about rayn. | ||
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On April 15 2018 10:44 Vivax wrote: GB kill and hopeless kill but HF is town. K. So rayn is 100% town now? I’ll try to work with you and ignore your digs. If you’re town you’ll make the effort. I will reciprocate. But you also need to post evidence. So if rayn and HF are mafia, how do the night kills implicate HF? I can see how you’d say it implicates HF if rayn is town, or rayn is implicated if HF is mafia. But it seems lately mafia haven’t been killing HF because HF was getting a lot of “no point reading HF, if he’s alive D4 we autolynch” silliness. So, him being alive late game no longer matters. We share similar views. You scummed Skynx and Calix while they were in my pool also. We have some common ground. So let’s talk. | ||
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On April 15 2018 11:53 Vivax wrote: Or maybe not cause everything that had to be said has been said. I highly doubt you are simply able to perceive what has given away HF being mafia this game. You just fall for his trick where he finds a single mistake and keeps harping on it putting the entire discussion surrounding it into the background unless you look at it with scrutiny. No tube the evidence is there if you aren't willing to accept it for what it is then I refuse to give in to demands for more evidence. To give you an exaggerated anecdote: You write a paper with an excellent conclusion. But the reviewer says the paper isn't good cause you had a bunch of grammatical errors and at some point you forgot to correctly quote someone. That is what HF does. He doesn't want your conclusion to be what actually matters when it does and instead looks for the irrelevant things to harp on. Like he repeatedly acted like he rather scumread CH over townreading him but when presented with arguments for him being mafia, he doesn't straight out agree with me he just rehashes in own words that CH exaggerated (Hf said extrapolated) certain points in order to justify his TR on HF. At no point does he want to lynch him. Nor does he want to lynch Oats for similar faults. And when CH posts that reason for Skynx being mafia which is literally just that Skynx wasn't scumreading Calix which I have gone back and shown to be untrue cause HF insisted on me giving my opinion on Skynx based on what CH said, HF disgreards all the counter argument and just asks me why I didn't see the post where skynx was actually scumreading CH which isn't even what he wanted me to talk about in the first place Back to the anecdote: HF wants me to talk about arguments on Skynx. CHs case is based on false facts cause this post. But HF dismisses it cause I said at some point that Skynx wasn't townreading CH. Ok. Well that means you’re probably dying tomorrow. | ||
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On April 15 2018 11:54 Vivax wrote: You are the town shitter of the bunch I'm scumreading aren't you? This doesn’t help. | ||
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On April 15 2018 12:00 Vivax wrote: Ít does for me cause he's the only one calling me scum with a straight face. If you could have figured out why CH is confirmed town for me on your own, I probably would have towned you. He might have too. | ||
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On April 16 2018 20:09 Calix wrote: You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts? Not mind melding really. He set up a play that in theory would force a scum rayn with a gun to shoot because we were going to lynch him the next day. I don’t actually think even if scum rayn had the gun that he would use it unless it was game ending as he would be scum claiming if there were two kills. So not effective but I liked the idea so went with it. Sure a scum could do that subtle play to pocket someone but that seems like a stretch to me. Better types of plays to be had. | ||
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On April 16 2018 20:09 Calix wrote: You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts? I read the last few pages but didn’t really read them. I’m in a weird tinfoily world right now. | ||
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On April 16 2018 20:26 Calix wrote: For some reason I had to reread this post a few times before I understood what you were referring to. I just disregarded the idea since D3 policy lynch + scum-claiming if he shot + not really scum-read at that point meant it was unlikely rayn would die over the gun thing alone since the best play for mafia!rayn there would be to not shoot still and talk your way out of it. So dunno how credible that is really. I rarely think in terms of 'plays' so I took those posts at face value. As for skimming the thread and wrapping yourself in tinfoil, I've been there Yeah there really was a zero chance scum rayn would use his gun unless it ended the game. Plus, I think mafia would have been dumb to not rb ES there. Town folk lie all the time about who they’re giving toys to. | ||
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On April 16 2018 20:46 ExO_ wrote: You’re seriously suggesting ES lied about who he gave gun to? Really? Did you read ES. Game is over if there’s framer. Here’s the Scenarios: Assume Scum can’t have Role Blocker AND Framer. 1) Scum have Framer, not RB. This means Rayn has a gun, and lied about not having it. No town motivation to lie about it. 2) Assume Role Blocker not framer: This means my cop check cannot be wrong. Means HF or Rayn is scum, and if one is GF both are. We have to hope scum has role blocker and blocked ES night 1. Sigh. No that’s not what I was saying. Jesus. And ES is a fucking woman. | ||
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I’m tin foiling Oats, Rayn, Exo. Going back three months is Skynx’ Vendee game. Town impressively lynched three mafia in three days. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia#1 RB, Framer vs parity cop and medic. So basically, if this town somehow makes it to final three and Exo is alive he must die. | ||
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On April 16 2018 21:10 Calix wrote: He claimed on Day 3 after you claimed. Because he thought I must be mafia planning on fake-claiming a role. Surely you saw this yourself lol. Plus I thought three blues were too many. | ||
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On April 16 2018 21:16 Calix wrote: What does a Skynx-hosted game where mafia got steam-rolled have to do with ExO being mafia? Also that was three months ago already? Time flies, lol. Sorry. I’m super tired and falling asleep. It’s meant as a rebuttal to the idea that mafia can only have a roleblocker or a framer/godfather and not both. | ||
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On April 17 2018 15:02 Oatsmaster wrote: Can you explain your switch!?? I mean, are the percentages that im mafia higher than 50%?? You’re just in the POE pile. I really really liked Calix’s recent work so I’m more inclined to think she’s town. I’m rereading the game, I’m hoping my original read on you was accurate. | ||
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On April 10 2018 04:31 Fecalfeast wrote: Day 1 Vote count remaining Vivax (0): Eversince (0): Calix (2): Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless GlowingBear (0): n00bking (4): Skynx (2): Tubesock, Glowingbear, ExO_ (1): Raynpelikoneet (0): currentlyhomeless (2):Holyflare, n00bKing Not Voting (1): Calix Currently n00bKing is set to be lynched. Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link) On April 13 2018 04:12 Fecalfeast wrote: Day 2 Vote count remaining Calix (4): Oatsmaster, Tubesock, Eversince (6): currentlyhomeless, Calix, vivax, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, Eversince Holyflare (0): currentlyhomeless (0): Skynx (0): Not Voting (1): Damdred Currently Eversince is set to be lynched. Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link) On April 16 2018 03:36 Fecalfeast wrote: Day 3 Vote count remaining Skynx (6): currentlyhomeless, Holyflare, Calix, Skynx, Tubesock, Raynpelikoneet Holyflare (1): Calix (1): raynpelikoneet (1): ExO_ ExO_ (0): Vivax (0): Not Voting (0): Currently Skynx [blue]is set to be lynched. Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link)[/blue) The nightkills and their dying scum reads: Glowingbear = raynpelikoneet, Damdred/Hopeless1nder = raynpelikoneet, Calix Exo_ = raynpelikoneet, Currentlyhomeless, Holyflare,Oatsmaster Although Damdred scumreads shouldn’t really count since that choice was obviously a night kill to keep town in its current state of mind, the other two scummed rayn. So, as HF says democracy. HF, Calix, CH what do you think? Rayn is guilty of overexplaining. I can go either Oats or rayn. | ||
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On April 18 2018 11:10 currentlyhomeless wrote: i found something HF & calix both fake crumbed blue roles HF “called out” calix for it and actually i remember a post by vivax (cant find it now) where he called out HF for voting calix but basically pushing rayn in thread or something like that now if they were scum in this position they would have just gotten really unlucky that both exo and tube claimed right after. and HF in particular has acted really weirdly about both claims. however from town perspective what gain would hf get from fake claiming here to kill rayn? as scum though it makes perfect sense cause i think he probably knows either he kills rayn first and rayn flips town (or even scum if they are buddies) and then the rest of the game is coasting even in the worst case he gets lynched after cause it wrecks the game Headed that way too. | ||
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On April 18 2018 10:56 Tubesock wrote: HF after Damdred’s slot was killed you went straight to rayn is mafia. Why? I don’t understand how the check would make you unsure about it either. | ||
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On April 18 2018 16:35 Holyflare wrote: Tubesock what are your thoughts on any of this? Do you town read ch? If so, why? I read CH town. I don’t read his last posts as slinging shade to see what will stick. I see him in the exact spot I’m in. We’re on the verge of being swept. I think it’s a natural time to be reevaluating and looking in different places. Oatsmaster has only voted for Calix. I find that super weird if he’s scum. I’ve seen town do that. Not sure I’ve seen scum do it. I’m going to check to see if he’s ever done that.  | ||
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On April 18 2018 18:45 Vivax wrote: Calix (4): Oatsmaster, Tubesock, remember this post? It related to the votes above. Basically Oats was the lonely mafia on the off wagon when ES was lynched and the fact they were indeed all town (if we believe TS) reinforces me in the belief that this was TMI. Yeah but he ONLY voted Calix (until today anyway), why isn’t it he thinks she’s scum? And you’re assuming that scum wouldn’t just pile on ES? Why TMI for Oats? | ||
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I’m probably passing out in under an hour. | ||
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On April 18 2018 19:42 Calix wrote: Instead of looking at individual posts ('micro'), look at what everyone has done this game ('macro'). Look at what HF and myself have been doing this game. Then look at how little rayn and Oats have done. Look at who actually CARES about solving the game and you will have the answer. I disagree with you about CH not caring about the game. To me he’s very much trying to solve it. | ||
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I don’t think it’s possible that Oats would only vote his scum partner for three days. So Calix must be town. She had a really good d3 and on. I think it’s impossible for Vivax to generate a 20 page filter as scum. That’s less sure because most of it was shit throwing at HF, so maybe. But 20 pages is a lot for his scum game. Unfortunately, that leaves CH as scum. It would warm my heart if Vivax was scum, but I don’t think so. | ||
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On April 19 2018 19:47 currentlyhomeless wrote: tube just read this and pls explain how, if I am scum and HF is town, hf would not know I am confirmed scum in this scenario. like if this is real hf should be 100% sure i am scum but he says “you are not confirmed scum at all” i am not scum and if youre town youre also wrong about calix I don’t understand why you’d be confirmed scum either.... | ||
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On April 19 2018 20:05 currentlyhomeless wrote: anyway i am gone for real tube if youre alive tomorrow which i’m betting we all will be cause hf doesnt have the balls to shoot here i can explain it to you again then Normally true. But half the remaining players can’t be here for eod. And they’d have to swap at eod otherwise they’d out themselves. They’d also risk the possibility that you or I wake up long enough to check the votes before the flip and just go back to sleep right away without posting. | ||
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On April 20 2018 08:10 currentlyhomeless wrote: ah mother of cack ok tube rayn we got this https://i.imgur.com/wizKsZL.gifv Lol,so which one of you is the wolf? | ||
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I’m going with GlowingBear the Prophet, the hero we need but don’t deserve. ##raynpelikoneet. | ||
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On April 20 2018 16:04 Holyflare wrote: If you are waffly and could change your mind and vivax was sent on losing us the game then why weren't you shot over him? Probably this: On April 20 2018 06:01 Holyflare wrote: the tubesock tinfoil is at an all time high though which I guess was their agenda They can shoot me and just not rb me, would be the same as a no shoot. | ||
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On April 19 2018 08:41 Vivax wrote: I don't know what I will vote I need to reeval cause going into lylos with preformed opinions is retarded. On April 19 2018 12:24 Vivax wrote: I'm done sandbagging since the next NK is obvious and I think it's me, so I'll just speak my mind. I believe you just lynch HF, then Calix. If HF isn't mafia the game is over. Rayn and Calix aren't mafia together don't entertain that possibility. The reason are their D1 exchanges which I don't think even mafia rayn could have faked and which are still in my memory cause it was my original reason for TRing rayn. The only reason I started getting suspicious of rayn is the fact he turned such a blind eye to HF but I think there's some sort of silent agreement between them in which especially rayn doesn't try to scumread HF cause in the past he didn't have an accurate read on HF. If any townie as in if you are not mentioned as mafia above wants me to expand on anything, I might do it if you ask me. No promises cause I feel like I'm still at where I was a bunch of days ago and there isn't much to add to what I thought and mentioned already. | ||
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On April 20 2018 16:35 Holyflare wrote: Let's say we kill rayn today. I become confirmed town and get shot tomorrow. It's you/calix/ch in the final lylo and you both would kill ch. Why not just kill you tonight and auto win today? Who knows. But until Oats kill, I was pretty sure of CH’s towniness and still wish washy on Calix. I was still ##neverforget. But I don’t think it’s possible Oats bussed a teammate for three straight days and had no other votes. | ||
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On April 20 2018 16:54 currentlyhomeless wrote: tube do you know what sandbagging means Playing below your abilities for easy competition. Like a masters SC2 player losing 100 games so they can be in silver league and crush newbs. | ||
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Getting desperate eh? | ||
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Uuuhhhhhmmmmmm | ||
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On April 20 2018 19:52 currentlyhomeless wrote: nice try I gave you several hours to talk but you chose not to any reasons why? Nope. Haven’t seen anything that would make me think my reads on HF or Calix are wrong. | ||
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Best part is if we lynch you now, there will still be enough doubt of why rayn voted you instead of HF for a chance to win in final three. It’s really good. | ||
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None even had three blues let alone four. So town needs to determine if it’s possible both of us are fakeclaiming, or just the one of us. BH’s motivation to claim is purely because there’s nothing else mafia can do here. This and keeping me alive is the only thing they can do to create chaos enough to possibly win. Here’s the games: Names Are Hard 2, 1 parity cop, 1 jailer, 1 Miller vs rb, rc, goon. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2#2 Names Are Hard; Tracker, Doc, wanderer vs rb, rc, goon http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509751-names-are-hard-mini-mafia#2 A Normal Game (for JAT); Vig, Doc vs RB, GF, Goon http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/506344-a-normal-game-just-for-jat-3#2 Generic Boring Mini Mafia; innocent child, vet vs vig, RB, goon http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485325-generic-boring-mini-mafia?page=73#1443 Mafia Mini Mafia 2; JK, vig vs vig, rb, goon http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480965-mafia-mini-mafia2-another-miniature-game-of-mafia#2 Mafia Mini Mafia; cop, vig vs gf, rb, goon http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479158-mafia-mini-mafia-a-miniature-game-of-mafia#2 Metal Mini Mafia; cop, vig vs rb, gf, goon http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?page=94 Conclusion, CH is trying the Hail Mary play. The day before he tried flinging shade everywhere but it wasn’t making any headway. Claim jk and all of a sudden new worlds open for him. I thought Exo could have been faking it days ago because through the five pages of games I looked FF only used two blues in his games. There’s zero chance that if CH was jk he wouldn’t have immediately scumread me. 0% chance. No way. | ||
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On April 16 2018 21:14 Tubesock wrote: Ok so full confession. I’m tin foiling Oats, Rayn, Exo. Going back three months is Skynx’ Vendee game. Town impressively lynched three mafia in three days. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia#1 RB, Framer vs parity cop and medic. So basically, if this town somehow makes it to final three and Exo is alive he must die. Liar liar pants on fire. | ||
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You’re really stretching. | ||
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On April 21 2018 09:36 currentlyhomeless wrote: no, you never talked about them crumbing until I did. lol you can’t sheep me on a read I made and then claim you came up with it yourself. I didn’t notice HFs as a crumb till you pointed to it. Sure. Vivax was first in thread to identify Calix’s crumb. My first post after day post was telling her to claim or not. And I posted the crumb she left. You had nothing to do with me scumming Calix for her crumb. | ||
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And uh but if you’re blue, you missed it too until well after...so the argument that I had to have seen it is false. | ||
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I changed to scumread you after Oats died because there’s never a world where a scum votes their scumbuddy three days in a row without any other vote. AND you claim now? Lol from my point of view it’s the most desperate play. Hail Mary. The only play you can do as mafia. Everything else loses. | ||
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