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n00bKing
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On March 23 2018 18:23 ykl wrote: Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track What would lead you to this assumption? | ||
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On March 23 2018 19:12 darthfoley wrote: If they strongman shot a VT then it wouldn't actually be KP right? I think that's how it usually works. so there may have been blocked kp from an inaccurate shot The Strongman does not create an additional attacker. When used AS an attacker, his attack cannot be prevented. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 23 2018 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: No you didn't, especially when you vote off of those three people. I don't even know if you scumread any of them or not and if you do why is your vote on Tictock instead if you want them discussed? Because I actually know how to accomplish more than one thing at the same time? | ||
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n00bKing
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It was only one post. Can you read one post? Pretty please? #2012. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 23 2018 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: wrong. you also voted for me. you also tunneled me all D1 when i was doing nothing but trying to lynch mafia1 and mafia2. It was your fault you were mislynched because you were so bad and you would have never lynched any mafia in that game regardless of where your votes were. NO, I did NOT vote for you. I voted for only TWO players, CopCake and GB, and they were both scum. You misremember, or you are lying, but those WERE the only two names I ever put into the voting thread. You lead a mislynch on someone who pegged 2/3 of the team on Day 1 in their only two votes (one of whom I posted very fleshed out and detailed arguments against), and try to claim that it was their fault for being "so bad." lol Yeah, I think I woulda lynched mafia just FINE in that game, if you had just gotten out of my (and your own) way. Too bad you didn't convince everyone to just sheep my votes after you mislynched me. Maybe then you would've won. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 23 2018 19:31 darthfoley wrote: I appreciate the caps lock frequency. It really screams "I'm secure about my ability as a player." I LOVE CAPS LOCK, darthfoley. In any mood, on any topic. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 23 2018 19:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Your post about 3 lurkers basically says nothing but that they are lurking. Wrong. How could anyone read it and then say this? That is not all it says, about any of the 3 of them. Not to mention the fact that I ask straightforward and direct questions that should be VERY simple for other players to answer. On March 23 2018 19:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you want to pressure them or think they are mafia i don't understand at all why you are voting for tictock instead Explained already. There should be NO reason I can't do both at the same time. I can accomplish both at the same time. I've done it dozens of times before. On March 23 2018 19:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think you are directly contradicting what you said on D1 here, because -- as you are a logical player -- logically you should want to pressure lurkers to talk or kill them (as per your stance on D1). Which to me looks really scummy since you did this shit last game hard core. Of course I did this shit last game. I had no reason to deviate from proper town play at that point in the game. So I simply played how a town player ought to, which means it looks exactly how I'm playing this game. On March 23 2018 19:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: You pressed all people to scumhunt and then you threew it all into trash by voting for an afk Kelsier who was never gonna be lynched at the EoD. There was NO reason for me to think he wouldn't be lynched at EoD. I put the option there, if it wasn't used, that's not my fault. On March 23 2018 19:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care if you swapped your vote on Rels here, it doesn't take much brain to correct your obvious "mistake" you made as mafia last game. That was NO mistake, and I did not "correct" anything. I GUARANTEE you, if I had needed to leave an hour before the deadline in D1 of this game, I WOULD have left my vote on sicklucker, just as I left my vote on Kelsier in that game. On March 23 2018 19:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: The point is. If you think the lurkers are mafia, why aren't you pressuring them instead of voting for Tictock? Doing BOTH? It wouldn't really even take that much cooperation from the other players. Just a LITTLE. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 23 2018 20:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Funny thing is you literally voted for me after i made a case on mafia.  Funny thing is I literally never voted for you at ALL. You have to be mafia here, right? Arguing just for the sake of taking up space in the thread with an argument where you are wrong, and HAVE to know you are wrong? You have to be mafia, right? Because nobody is THIS brain-dead. Go look at the voting thread. Find where I voted for you. NEVER happened. I voted EXCLUSIVELY against two scum players. Look at the final vote count from that day, and look for a vote against you from me that got scratched out before I moved it somewhere else. Uh-uh. I never voted for you. I only voted for scum. But you somehow managed to get me lynched on Day 1, even though it had never happened before, and has never happened since. And then...you failed to win without me. As it has been more than 4 entire years since any town team I was on has made the mistake of killing me themselves and then survived it. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 23 2018 20:26 Mocsta wrote: you are scum because, for all your proclamations of being world-class, you are merely existing; content to reply to others and one-post pressure lurkers. Absurd. Read my filter. Filled to overflowing with me bringing up topics for discussion that had gone unnoticed by others, and lines of questioning about why players hold the opinions they claim to, not to mention GETTING them to choose which opinions they claim in the FIRST place. If YOU are Town, then what excuse could you possibly have for not engaging in the discussions I am trying to get settled? Seriously, tell me. Why would you staunchly refuse to participate in my efforts to advance the game, and discover the identities of the players who are mafia? Why are you standing in the way of that goal? | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 23 2018 21:22 disformation wrote: ykl at least seems new to forum mafia and overwhelmed. can he be both as scum? sure. is there a lot of content to go on: no. would I like to be in lylo with him as things stand: no. so dunno. is there a super good reason to lynch with fire rn: not rly. hope we have a cop or something. Not really what a cop is for. We'd find out whether or not there was a "super good reason to lynch with fire" if he was nailed to the wall and forced to participate, as he would be in games at other sites. Instead we have 7 players who aren't even voting, and of the players who are posting things, some still do not respond to direct questions. Moosy is a great example of this. Makes a bunch of disjointed "If X, then Y" posts (each one different than the last) that all appear to have no basis. And if you ask him for the basis...no answer. Yet some people somehow find the nerve to count him as someone "trying to solve the game." I can't even. On March 23 2018 21:22 disformation wrote: slam: dunno not even voting is imo always a bit risky/weird for scum imo. gut feeling also says he is slightly more likely to be town. think ill trust rs on that. she said he is prolly town earlier. What makes not voting riskier for scum than for anyone else? On March 23 2018 21:22 disformation wrote: coag: plamar was suggesting he always plays like this. don't really know. if so I would like to trade my vest against a vig shot. pure coin flip? would actually like some ppl confirming that he always plays like this. if he doesn't there is actually a good scum chance here. Yes, a REALLY good scum chance there, if Palmar is mistaken or misinforming. If the truth is that Coagulation has often been a worthwhile town asset, then I think the points I made give us extremely good reason to lynch him. On March 23 2018 21:22 disformation wrote: what do you think of fefe @nk? Well, let's see here.... On March 16 2018 09:16 Fecalfeast wrote: i am not promising any more effort or activity than last game On March 20 2018 11:00 Fecalfeast wrote: so can I just disregard the last 12 pages or what. I'm gonna do that On March 21 2018 04:23 Fecalfeast wrote: What's the slam story i skipped it On March 22 2018 01:09 Fecalfeast wrote: I've only read to page 38 On March 22 2018 06:36 Fecalfeast wrote: i have no idea what's going on On March 23 2018 06:48 Fecalfeast wrote: when have i had any impact as town or mafia in like 3 years? On March 23 2018 08:35 Fecalfeast wrote: I honestly don't think I'll be trying too hard so if i have to die to solve the game go for it. What I think of Fecalfeast is that he is the living embodiment of TL Mafia, in a nutshell. Ostensibly he is a terrific place for votes (if people were voting) to get him to participate more so you can get a read on him. And if he won't participate more, you kill him. Unfortunately, there are too many other do-nothings to actually single him out for it, and based on my experience playing with him in other games (and reading other games he's participated in) his do-nothingness in this game is not really alignment-indicative. Hence the questions in my long post about the history of Alakaslam and "take my ball and go home" behaviors, and about Coagulation and "read 85 pages but have nothing to say about them, before risking my own death" behaviors. I think the answers to those questions can yield more context than meta analysis of FecalFeast is likely to yield. You apparently aren't someone who has the answers to those questions, but I thank you for at least trying to address them. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 23 2018 22:04 rsoultin wrote: @nk the mostly afk players reads don't really interest me. The only one that comes close is the ykl read. And what are your answers to the questions I posed? On March 23 2018 22:04 rsoultin wrote: To be able to read you id need you to comment on other things that have more content in the thread. More content? What things are those supposed to be? On March 23 2018 22:04 rsoultin wrote: Not interested in the dick measuring who voted who and who was bad in a previous game argument @.@ it has absolutely no relevance to this game It has relevance to this game in that rayn displayed a willingness to continue an argument in which he knows he is in the wrong. My fake-out non-vote of him was a big topic of discussion in that game, I *know* he remembers it. I *know* that HE knows that I did not vote for him in that game, and that the only two players I voted for in that game were BOTH scum. Yet he continued to extend the argument about it, time and time again. For what? To make the game thread longer and harder to read? To make his filter longer and harder to read? To try and take my focus off of the game at hand? What other reason would he have for willfully extending an argument where he knows what I've said is fact? On March 23 2018 22:04 rsoultin wrote: Let's pretend I give you the benefit of the sound and say yes losing a town nk would cripple us and we'd have no chance of winning. Now convince me you're town rather than trying to scare people about losing town god noobking. Why, certainly. And how would you like for me to go about that, beyond what I have already been doing? | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 23 2018 22:17 ykl wrote: Its not really a complicated thought process. Scum notices them getting suspected -> scum panics -> scum kills to get people off their trail. Its pretty much the simplest conclusion possible and probably the dumbest one but I'm a really stupid person so I'll go with this first And if your inclination is to "assume that both were targeted because their reads were on track" then wouldn't you have to expect the mafia to have thought of this, when selecting their targets? In chess terms, this would represent thinking just ONE move ahead, yet you've not even done that? Holyflare's top scum read had been mocsta, and Vivax's targets were Kelsier and Exo (whom multiple players had said were likely of the same alignment, regardless of which alignment that turned out to be). If the mafia wants people to think that HF and Vivax were targeted because their reads were on track, then it could be in an effort to achieve a mislynch on any of mocsta/Exo/Kelsier. Problem being that (if mocsta is truly a town Vigilante) they didn't foresee that he would cement his earlier Vigilante claim, and shoot Exo. Making an Exo mislynch impossible, a mocsta mislynch unlikely, and (if people still think Exo and Kelsier were likely the same alignment) a mislynch on Kelsier unlikely as well. If you want to operate under the assumption that HF and Vivax were killed because their reads were on track, are you suggesting that mocsta should be the lynch? Are you suggesting that Kelsier should be the lynch? Are you suggesting anyone should be the lynch? | ||
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On March 23 2018 23:19 Mocsta wrote: I dont like saying this But conv rage quit feels controlled i.e. fake More fake or less fake than Slam's, in your opinion? More fake or less fake than rayn's, in your opinion? | ||
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On March 24 2018 01:03 Tictock wrote: Kus I knew what time it was, and it saved me from fruitlessly responding to several of HF’s posts. There wouldn't be any risk of fruitlessly responding to a dead HF, if you just didn't post until you'd read. And being saved from fruitlessly responding to a dead HF didn't save you from fruitlessly making posts about the flips while having no context. eg "Exo seems like the weirdest kill to me, unless he was vigged?" If you just read before you posted, you would have seen that mocsta had said he was vig-killing Exo. So, why would a TOWN player feel any need to post reactions to the flips, if he hadn't read the rest of the thread yet, and had no context to work with? I see absolutely no reason for a town player to do this. However, it is comparatively easier for me to pick out the scum motivation for trying to sound like you've not read the thread when you actually have. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 24 2018 03:04 darthfoley wrote: I don't think he's a shit player. But I also don't think he's mafia Jesus This is a pic of me from December, choking out a so-called "strongman." ![[image loading]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/4d/8f/2d4d8f846e102a811110d03df2be4960.jpg) | ||
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On March 24 2018 05:03 Tictock wrote: Could you try and spew this sort of self-righteous word vomit outside the thread please? Literally 3 paragraphs of “told ya so” that added nothing to the game. Wrong. It's important to the game because it explains me continually treating Exo as Town (both throughout Day 1 and Night 1) without it meaning I have "TMI." The rationale behind me thinking that early post was town-indicative is relevant. How his exchange with rsoul made me upgrade him to even townier status is also relevant. It explains why during Night 1, I would encourage him to battle through his disappointment over the D1 mislynch, understand that we're expected to mislynch on D1, and keep working at the game. And why I chose him specifically to ask what he thought a town Vigilante should do, if there was one. I trusted HIM to provide an untainted, Town-motivated answer. As it turns out, I didn't like his suggestion of shooting disformation (because of the possibility of an actual mafia Veteran) so I explained that, in case there was a town Vigilante listening, who was waffling on what to do. But I at least trusted him to not try and lead the Vigilante astray in his answer. I certainly did not foresee that the player I was trusting to give untainted advice to the Vigilante might then be shot BY that Vigilante, as may have happened. (It's been mentioned already that a 4-man mafia team that contains a Vigilante could be fine for game balance, but I still have trouble explaining Exo as a kill target for that mafia Vigilante, which is why I am not worrying about mocsta yet for Day 2. If he's scum, he'll need to be caught later, imo) | ||
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On March 24 2018 05:50 rsoultin wrote: Moosy - my impression of his scum play was he fell off hard later in the game while still posting periodically. i'm not getting that impression here, but need to double-check to make sure his posts are leading somewhere Think you're gonna wind up disappointed. | ||
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On March 24 2018 08:13 Tictock wrote: Touching back on this as I read it. I’m not sure if it applies super well to Noobking due to his play style, but this type of mafia focused thinking raises red flags for me always. It’s the type of thought process that shows noob is thinking from a mafia POV. Every town player should be stepping back to think about things from a mafia POV from time to time. That's how counterintelligence works. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 24 2018 08:37 Mocsta wrote: ##2279 is rubbish The only person who said same allignment between kelsier and exo is me Literally one or two others said tvt lulz? *You* thought they were likely both the same alignment (and said so). *I* thought they were likely both the same alignment (and said so). Vivax thought they were likely both the same alignment (and said so). And that's just off the top of my head. Could have been more people who said things that were similar. But *nobody* was looking at it from the outside and saying they thought it was TvS, that I recall. | ||
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n00bKing
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On March 24 2018 08:39 Mocsta wrote: Who cares Mafia might quit irl to team mates But i cant see mafia ever rage quitting Instead its a concede or stop posting Rage quit is how ya stop posting. You haven't seen mafia rage quit before??? I've seen mafia employ this tactic more than once in the same GAME, before. Of course, it's a fake rage quit, so they come back. Know anyone who said they were bailing on this game or "weren't going to play Day 2" but then came back? On March 24 2018 08:39 Mocsta wrote: Slam and ryan arent lynch candidates today lol, and why is that? | ||
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