[M][N] Medic Mafia - Page 13

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 10 2018 23:06 GMT

#1182

On March 11 2018 08:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
So correct me if I'm wrong but don't we just kill noobking here

Why?

I mean, if that's really the way everyone wants to go, I'll look into him, but it's still not the best play any more than it was during D1.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 10 2018 23:08 GMT

#1183

The way I see it, we vig shot into one of

Me
HF
Koshi
Moosy
Slam

There has to be a scum in there.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 10 2018 23:24 GMT

#1189

I'll probably put some time into this in the morning, but I stand at a moosy shot right now as well.

I don't really think that noob is scum, and I'll admit that this is probably influenced by his actually listening and discussing things with me all game, but it is what it is. I'm willing to look again at all the things being said against him and give him a good read over if for some reason the majority decide it's time to kill medics. (This is still not my preference.)

In fact, I'm most leery of Viva's fall-off at present. But the truth of the matter is Viva will pick back up if he's town, which is another reason beyond the obvious that I'd much rather shoot into the un-claimed pile.

Koshi...I can't read while he plays this way. I like that he's pushing pro-town play at least.

Slam feels town to me but I know how bad those sorts of gut reads can be.

And HF...you asked if he uses hyperbole as town, noob? Yes. Unfortunately. I don't think it's impossible for him to be scum, but I do think he's more likely town here. Just a frustrating one.

Course if you really are scum I'm sure he'll have more snarks to fire at me if I'm even still in the game at that point. Post-game, I guess. Heh.

Moosy...yeah the lack of mention of prp D1 is a red flag. But I think I owe a potentially town Moosy to actually look through him closely before calling that vig shot.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 10 2018 23:33 GMT

#1191

Also, I don't think the two medic shot forcing the scum medic to shoot who we want or reveal the pair with the fake claim is actually the best idea. (I mentioned this earlier). It's a lot of potential townies to lose in one night.

Anyway, toodles.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 10 2018 23:35 GMT

#1192

On March 11 2018 08:25 n00bKing wrote:

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And did you troll just as much, and ruin people's day, in games where you were mafia? Before you were "reformed?"

Wait, hold up, I know EXACTLY the right thing to do here.

Pay attention, Alakaslam, because the BEST play to make here is for me to ask....

"wat everyone else think?"

Has Town Moosy been reformed, and quit trolling in his town games? Did Scum Moosy troll just like Town Moosy, before he was "reformed" or no? And instead, he was more controlled/polite?

I don't think he's played in awhile. But you can find out just by looking in his profile -shrugs-

Nite

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 10 2018 23:38 GMT

#1194

On March 11 2018 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
I'd rather we take the way that makes the game end sooner then later to be honest.

Maybe you'll get lucky and be the nk and not have to play anymore.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 07:17 GMT

#1267

Slam the medic claims are noob/df/ff/viva

I wasn't saying you were a medic. I was saying you were voting for one lol ><

@HF

Have you read Viva's contributions since D2 started? I fail to see where your certainty comes from.

@moosy

I'd also like to hear who you actually want to vig tonight, because we're not vigging medics.

@noob

Read your cases. Will have to pop into Moosy's games myself because my memory is shitty and that was too long ago...But yeah, anything can change after a couple years. The complete lack of interaction with prp is your best point imo.

As for hf...I'm just not sure. Part of me wants very much to string him up just because I'd hate myself if he played this obviously scumsided as scum and still we lost to him. I do think he could think that seeing whether or not df is the N2 nk would be better for helping HIM solve the game than a mass claim.

@HF so does your case against me just not apply anymore or what? You were still arguing your points were valid.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 07:21 GMT

#1268

On March 11 2018 15:47 n00bKing wrote:

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He claimed medic Day 1. Kicked off Day 2 by saying it hadn't been true.

I do like your point about rescinding the medic claim early though because that still makes no sense to me. Fake-claiming as town to fuck with mafia is entirely within his town wheel house, though. (And yes I know this was originally my question that I forgot @.@ I could blame being ill at the time but I think it's mostly gerbil brain)

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 07:35 GMT

#1269

Yeah I don't think I want to medic vig slam. He's not really pushing anything, just bouncing around being adorable. I seem to remember that scum!slam is more focused.

I also think it's a cop-out to medic vig him rather than actually trying to find scum -eyes df-

Also I can completely see koshi's world with the AMG nk and viva dropping off after a fairly good D1. I'm also not seeing why a scum!koshi thinks the best way to survive is to call hf and viva scum when he can just throw slam under the bus with the same reasoning df did. Or scumread moosy for that matter. He just makes a blanket 'he's town' statement with no follow-up. And frankly, whoever is scum amongst us non-claimers should be trying hard to survive.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 07:37 GMT

#1270

But now, breakfast time!

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 08:44 GMT

#1273

On March 11 2018 17:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
or heal koshi sounds cool

-_- everyone wants to kill people I don't

Maybe I'm a moron and just hard scumsiding but why koshi?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 08:47 GMT

#1274

On March 11 2018 17:28 n00bKing wrote:

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Well...yeah, let's NOT make that our basis for killing him. lol

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Yes, I don't doubt that at all. It's not the fake claim that's weird, it's the throwing it aside for no (town-motivated) reason that I can come up with. I listed 3 different occasions where he acted against the Town agenda, but on this 4th point, a town HF wouldn't just be going against the Town's best-interests because he thought he had his own plan instead. Rather, he'd actually be acting against his *own* plan.

I don't disagree. Meh. Moosy and HF can't both be scum though.

Well, I mean, technically they could but then id be living in a world where town fake-claimed and I'm going to assume no one is that dumb.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 08:56 GMT

#1275

We need an actual vote, and we need the medics to abide by it (obviously).

And I need to figure out whether it should be HF or moosy @.@ I'm kind of inclined to say HF for the awful reason that I think if I'm the nk he doesn't get lynched/shot ever and autowins. I think people have the balls to go after moosy just fine (although all the townreads on him I find confusing).

Blah that's really a shit reason lol ><

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 09:56 GMT

#1276

Hey koshi, your read on noob changed. Can you explain that?

Along with your moosy townread if it's more than just tone and spidey senses, because I'm conflicted about him.

Also not sure what you meant by DF should have died if he wasn't real medic? Can you lay that out for me?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 10:31 GMT

#1277

This so isn't helping ><

I was thinking maybe not Moosy after all. The he ignores his teammates thing doesn't really hold water looking at past scum games. BTDT in Newbie Student Mafia XXII is an example. Also, even though he doesn't appear to talk much about other scummates, he does talk to them.

Also found him policing the thread a bit as town. And I noticed that he's more active in this game than his two most recent scum games.

However, that doesn't mean much as it turns out, because he's also more active than his town games and I didn't notice a huge activity difference in those four games. But then I started just getting this he's way more actively and aggressively pushing things in this town game I'm reading (Newbie XXI), and I found an explanation for his early trolling that makes me wonder why he bothers to change it up.

So now I'm thinking this was a waste of time and I should just throw the meta out the window lol >< These games were from years ago as it is.

Pffft.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 10:39 GMT

#1280

On March 06 2018 19:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Honestly though this game is kind of weird for me because normally in my Mafia games, it's people lining up on the Moosy wagon D1 and/or putting a lot of pressure on me and neither of those things have happened so far.

So I'm in this weird position where on my return to TL Mafia I kind of want to troll a little less and be a little more serious but I often tend to decide on the flip of a coin whether to respond seriously to pressure or go into super troll mode with a large tendency to resort to trolling...but since there's really no pressure I can't really troll a lot or actually tryhard. So my filter's just kind of growing omegalul.

What exactly were you expecting people to pressure you on prior to this post, Moosy?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 10:41 GMT

#1281

On March 11 2018 19:37 Holyflare wrote:
Moosy is nice and has said nothing bad the entire game. Your case earlier was that he didn't mention prplhz that afk guy that posted two posts. Really bad case and I've almost never seen those cases work despite being used frequently.

What did koshi do? Replace in and post mechanics? Cool. He's mafia. So what if if helps town? It also is a fake post because as mafia he's also got to work that out for himself to see where his team stands so it's bs activity to make him look good.

His reads? Moosy is not mafia. That's it. Ok, cool.

If you're town I'd appreciate you not posting inaccuracies. Koshi has reads. If he didn't I wouldn't be asking him for clarification, nor would I be saying I'd rather not vig shot him today.

I'm not making a case. I'm trying to determine who is the scum out of the remaining VT claims, thank you much. You should let me do that instead of interfering.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 10:45 GMT

#1286

On March 11 2018 19:42 Vivax wrote:
Kelsiers strategy of trying to skate on big puppy eyes didn't quite work. Good, good.

##Vote: Koshi

Dude, if you don't give me more than this N2, I'm going to scumread you forever. It feels like you're just content to skate by because you know we have to lynch your partner first.

I want reads. Informed by new things in thread. Not some vig shot the least common denominator crap without at least explaining how you get there.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 10:46 GMT

#1287

On March 11 2018 19:42 Holyflare wrote:
The case on me is that I've played anti town when that's my blatant town meta and always has been. Truth been told I hadn't played anti town at all.

The fake claim either wasted a mafia medic or rb on myself or df. The mass claim turned out to be shit and now they're gonna die one by one instead.

Turns out you guys were the anti town ones all along. Now about me rescinding the claim? Why would I keep it up? There's no benefit to weaving a lie the entire day 2. If I say I was still medic that healed df then that means he's likely mafia when it turns out he might not be. It also grossly misleads people. Waste of time. More info is way better than making people waste time assuming wrong scenarios. If I say I healed prplhz then they'll ask why I was still not pushing df. Again, waste of time.

Now this nk thing? 25% chance to hit mafia. If 3 medics die we have a guaranteed mafia to lynch tomorrow. Accelerates the game to my liking.

How do 3 medics die exactly?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 11 2018 10:47 GMT

#1289

On March 11 2018 19:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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Slam rsoul and holy are likely town. Im not voting slam probs ever because I want to townread him and this looks like town Slam anyway. Rsoul is likely town because you're pocketing her and other stuff. Holy could be mafia but his thought process lines with mine so I doubt hes scum. So koshi would be my vote here.

There is tinfoil where maybe rsoul is pocketing you and her goddawful tunnel on town hf and bad townread on prpl or hf is mafia pocketing me but meh.

It wasn't awful -_- I really resent that

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