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On March 09 2018 20:54 Holyflare wrote: I am going to leave now because I have my own opinion and I have a reason why I want to follow that opinion and you clearly disagree so you can call me mafia for having a different mindset to pre-game all you want but that won't change my opinion or my stance or be convincing to anyone else.
I think mass claiming is retarded at this point.
I think if you're town you need to seriously consider that you being hung up on df is less important than narrowing the lynch pool and avoiding an accidental medic lynch or vig shot on d2 and n2.
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On March 09 2018 20:58 Holyflare wrote: Go ahead and mass claim then? I'm not exactly stopping an entire game am I? Nope.
This is for others' benefit and because I'd rather not lynch you if you're town.
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I'm out too. Been vomiting off and on for almost an hour, and I think phone posting is making it worse.
Everyone:
Please take a stance on mass claiming today, and explain why you think it would be a bad idea if you don't want to.
Please look at HF. I think he's scum or too tunneled on DF to think straight.
May not be back for awhile if this keeps up blech @.@
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Also vt.
And no, you blew that already by not pushing a df lynch the instant the day started
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Still not liking the odds of clearing some lynchbait?
@Viva...your argument that there is a lot of inactivity was the only good one. But slam has already claimed vt.
\o/ yay for mass claims!
Feeling a little better but not great.
Someone please take up the mantle of pushig people to claim as they check in.
I'm fine with a ksc lynch but I'm not convinced hf isn't scum, so when anyone's willing to actually read my reasons (yes, I'm lookig at you viva) and discuss them with me, that would be great.
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On March 10 2018 02:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Medic i healed prp obv
Only correct answer.
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I'll vote ksc if and only if we talk about other scumreads, including hf.
I can see that I probably won't get that lynch today. And maybe he really does somehow believe that seeing if DF was nkd night two outweighed the benefits of 3 confirmed town.
But that seems awfully shortsighted for the hf I know, when if df is fake-claiming we will know much sooner that someone is with a mass claim.
He gave no good reason against a mass claim, only one that is selfish if he's town. And it diverted hard from his pre-game, pre-role pm perception of how this game should be played.
I need people to actually read, think, and tell me why I'm wrong.
I think ksc is likely to be scum, and also feel that slam looks okay to the extent that I can read him. So I'm happy with a ksc lynch today.
But I also think that an auto lynch promotes less discussion. So you get my vote by engaging me or I'll annoy everyone by posting my gripes with HF over and over until it's impossible to do that anymore.
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On March 10 2018 04:03 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 19:07 MoosyDoosy wrote: Honestly though this game is kind of weird for me because normally in my Mafia games, it's people lining up on the Moosy wagon D1 and/or putting a lot of pressure on me and neither of those things have happened so far.
So I'm in this weird position where on my return to TL Mafia I kind of want to troll a little less and be a little more serious but I often tend to decide on the flip of a coin whether to respond seriously to pressure or go into super troll mode with a large tendency to resort to trolling...but since there's really no pressure I can't really troll a lot or actually tryhard. So my filter's just kind of growing omegalul. I think I really hate this post for some reason Talking about moosy (and noob @ slam) are also quite welcome.
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On March 10 2018 04:09 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2018 03:58 darthfoley wrote:On March 09 2018 16:55 Holyflare wrote: Mass claiming is dumb. Just gives mafia a kill list that detracts from nk info. If we're about to lynch a medic just claim instead. Because you've continued with this line of thought about NK info being more important than confirmed town, please explain what NK info you got from AMG being shot. Thanks! That mafia is full of bad/afk players or top town players that can't nk themselves or other top town players in fear of narrowing it down. Now that vivax is medic that makes rsoul (since she's trying to get me lynched but also probably not because she wants mass claims) more likely to be mafia along with noobking (who has not played with us). So basically this claim nonsense was a waste of time. If df really is medic then I have no idea why he didn't push noobking who effectively tmid df as town.
So...shouldn't I be mafia to you then? Because I agree that the amg kill looks like scum is avoiding the usual town hard hitters hi!
And as you said, vivax has claimed. We have three claims. You already townread him.
I suppose hard why you threw noobkings name out there, but as I recall he's wanted to talk about mass claiming from the beginning and supported my idea when I put it out. He also isn't 'trying to get you lynched'. He is a more viable lynch than me, though 
But I fail to see how this translates to a 'waste'. I personally could see my self having lynched ff. You obviously still struggle with the concept that Df could just be medic.
In other points of interest, I do like discussing moosy because he doesn't have the steam id expect from a towny who got a scum flip and also thought it was 'really good' the amg kill because it eliminated a tinfoil theory.
He also took a pussyfoot neutral stance to mass claiming.
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On March 10 2018 04:18 Holyflare wrote: I think we lynch noobking today so he's forced to spew and nk kelsier. Or the other way around if you wanna give noob more time.
I'm good with leaving the trash to the medic shot. I.e. only post just enough ksc
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On March 10 2018 04:15 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2018 04:03 rsoultin wrote: I'll vote ksc if and only if we talk about other scumreads, including hf.
I can see that I probably won't get that lynch today. And maybe he really does somehow believe that seeing if DF was nkd night two outweighed the benefits of 3 confirmed town.
But that seems awfully shortsighted for the hf I know, when if df is fake-claiming we will know much sooner that someone is with a mass claim.
He gave no good reason against a mass claim, only one that is selfish if he's town. And it diverted hard from his pre-game, pre-role pm perception of how this game should be played.
I need people to actually read, think, and tell me why I'm wrong.
I think ksc is likely to be scum, and also feel that slam looks okay to the extent that I can read him. So I'm happy with a ksc lynch today.
But I also think that an auto lynch promotes less discussion. So you get my vote by engaging me or I'll annoy everyone by posting my gripes with HF over and over until it's impossible to do that anymore. Hf says pre-game that this is a claim game that requires skilled mafia to claim a role to survive otherwise it's over. Hf claims vt before mass claim and hard claims vt after mass claim. Does not compute. Hf resisted mass claim after stating it was the best strat when he could be trusted.
Hf cannot claim medic without pushing for a df lynch because then scum didn't take the free extra kill on a claimed medic.
Df flips medic...that's not good for scum hf survival, now is it?
See, I can narrate too.
The fact of the matter is you resisted the best play for town which you previously identified trying to make it sound like it's better to keep medics secret and let people geting lynched claim medic with no possibility of cc because the real medics both think oh, with x that makes three. Also risking medic shotting a medic.
So yeah. Call my push dumb all you want, but it's not.
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On March 10 2018 04:24 Holyflare wrote: "shouldn't that make me mafia?" is quite literally what I say in the quoted post even
Except you don't. You say maybe maybe not and go straight to noob who only did thething had you say MAY NOT make me scum after all.
You should be pushing me. But you can lynch noob. You're never lynching me certainly not today. That could be coincidence, but it's an illogical step from you among several recently.
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On March 10 2018 04:32 MoosyDoosy wrote: would mafia fake claim here tho? probably yea right This is irrelevant wih three claims.
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On March 10 2018 04:21 MoosyDoosy wrote: rsoultin what are you and holyflare fighting about again. Last time was darthfoley, is it still darthfoley or something else?
Hf insists mass-claiming is dumb because we could have gotten more info out of night kills without it (I.e. scum should now be shooting claimed medics).
Pre-game he said the game was too town-favored because if all medics are alive day 2 they can claim, give town three confirmed town, and get another big shot off night 2.
Now he says he's changed his mind. I don't believe him even if I admit it's not impossible.
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I think the simplest explanation is he doesn't want it because he's scum.
He's more interested in getting a lynch than pursuing who should be his top suspect if he thinks Amg as an nk means a top townread is scum...because he's scum.
And this nonsense about he would have claimed medic as scum is exactly that...nonsense. DF's flip would mean his death. And he had to push df of he claimed medic here.
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Is it childish to say I don't want to lynch who HF wants to lynch? Lol ><
I'll look into noob and moosy in the morning for the sake of due diligence and because I'm too frequently wrong.
And I'll try to entertain the possibility of a town HF world. Because I recognize the tunnel.
Gonna step away from the game for the night though.
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On March 10 2018 04:55 Holyflare wrote: You can stop posting your narrative now rsoul I answered a question
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On March 10 2018 04:57 Holyflare wrote: Your tunnel feels incredibly unnatural I must say. Mhm. Have a good night and good luck convincing anyone.
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Yeah hf probably isnt scum over ksc/koshi I'm probably just wrong again lol ><
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