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I will play so the game starts.
I will try to try.
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make sure you dont give me obs QT
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Oh we started, i'm a read this through in just a little bit.
Good people here though, feels like the old times.
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why did we all damerion and damdred in the same game.
Can we just lynch one of them now to avoid later confusion.
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Going to make some hot chocolate then I will post some stuff
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I will try to organise my thoughts in a concise why.
Main issue is the damdred discussion. The impression I get is that damerion has a meta read that he is very proud of but in those situations you have to be careful not to get too excited and see the read everywhere. I think this may be the case, especially with how early he came out with it. I believe damerion mentioned damdred going on df with "ferocity". That's where he lost if for me. I didn't see damdred being ferocious at all. In fact I didn't feel he was really pushing a scum read that hard.
I don't know where I have damdred, he has done things I like and things I don't like. For damerion...Is he misguided overeager town or scum...probably over eager town.
I think Twaty and rsoultin are both town. I've agreed with most everything that Tina has said and I knew she would like costa. They both post in similair style. Costa's enthusiasm is enough for a tone read pass D1.
my scummy reads come from people who agree on the damdred wagon when they should probably know better. I think hf questioning damdred on his df and costa both being scum was bad. To me that was a guy giving two people who in his opinion have made questionable posts. Not considering partners at that stage. Rels is similar as a guy who has popped up with some one liners and then latched onto this damdred read.
I don't like Mderg I think his disappointment at the thread felt fake and his 10 page hf point was not my experience of hf at all. In general I have disagreed with almost everything he said apart from his agreement that damerion is just too aggro. So I could see Mderg knowing both damdred and damerion are town and trying to get some credit later...maybe im just biased with that .
Right now i'd lynch HF, rels, Mderg and prplhz because his 2 day afk is just bullshit.
I like kmatt but just because his 4d chess comment was really funny.
Sorry this turned into a ramble.
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On January 19 2018 07:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 07:12 KelsierSC wrote:
I will try to organise my thoughts in a concise why.
Main issue is the damdred discussion. The impression I get is that damerion has a meta read that he is very proud of but in those situations you have to be careful not to get too excited and see the read everywhere. I think this may be the case, especially with how early he came out with it. I believe damerion mentioned damdred going on df with "ferocity". That's where he lost if for me. I didn't see damdred being ferocious at all. In fact I didn't feel he was really pushing a scum read that hard.
I don't know where I have damdred, he has done things I like and things I don't like. For damerion...Is he misguided overeager town or scum...probably over eager town.
I think Twaty and rsoultin are both town. I've agreed with most everything that Tina has said and I knew she would like costa. They both post in similair style. Costa's enthusiasm is enough for a tone read pass D1.
my scummy reads come from people who agree on the damdred wagon when they should probably know better. I think hf questioning damdred on his df and costa both being scum was bad. To me that was a guy giving two people who in his opinion have made questionable posts. Not considering partners at that stage. Rels is similar as a guy who has popped up with some one liners and then latched onto this damdred read.
I don't like Mderg I think his disappointment at the thread felt fake and his 10 page hf point was not my experience of hf at all. In general I have disagreed with almost everything he said apart from his agreement that damerion is just too aggro. So I could see Mderg knowing both damdred and damerion are town and trying to get some credit later...maybe im just biased with that .
Right now i'd lynch HF, rels, Mderg and prplhz because his 2 day afk is just bullshit.
I like kmatt but just because his 4d chess comment was really funny.
Sorry this turned into a ramble. What a pile of drivel. Where did Damerion say damdred was ferocious against df? Not even a single mention of damdred's reaction to it. The thing that bugs me the most is you literally say Damerion posts are wrong WHEN DAMDRED HAS AGREED WITH THEM. This guy should absolutely be a lynch. I'm his fucking scum read for questioning damdred on his df and mocsta reads but twat did the exact same thing like a post before me and is town? Noopppppp
On January 18 2018 22:09 Damerion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2018 22:01 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:On January 18 2018 21:56 Damerion wrote:
Good morning,
I have decided with careful conaideration that Damdred is scum over DarthFoley and Mocsta. Or at least that I would much rather lynch him over both and then reevaluate at that point.
But onto my main point, Damdred is an extremely meta based player and has used exactly 0 points of meta to make his reads this game.
He also is gòing about thw game in a way that is not typical of him, he generally town hunts and only goes after his scum reads day two instead of pushing early day one when he town hunts. He also usually goes off the beaten path and looks where others do not.
And look what he is doing here, he bases his scum read of DarthFoley off one post.
Also I have a slight meta read on Damdred on his word usuage, in that he uses certain words when explaining his reads and he does not use it in any of his posts.
I think Damdred is scum and you all should join me in voting him off.
##vote Damdred
Is meta that thing where people based early reads on a player's past games? Anyways, Bold doesn't make since sense everyone who thinks Darthfoley is scum is doing the same. Can you explain the word usage point more in detail with examples? Meta is using past experiences with a player/previous games played, and applying it to current actions. Be it tone, how they approach reads etc.. Damdreds is extremely different at this point, especially considering he has paid attention to no town reads and has not really even interacted with anyone besides you and talks to you like you are confirmed town. Everyone else can do the same, that does not change the fact that Damdred never really goes after low hanging fruit, eapecially with this ferocity.I hate to give away the meta point, but he can get over it. Damdred is a super excitable player (which also is missing), and so when he feels like he is onto something hardcore he starts spamming the word Like, which always makes him sound like a valley girl but i digress. The main point is he seems to lack the excitement of finding scum and this changes the way he plays and points towards a scum game instead of town.
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On January 19 2018 07:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 07:12 KelsierSC wrote:
I will try to organise my thoughts in a concise why.
Main issue is the damdred discussion. The impression I get is that damerion has a meta read that he is very proud of but in those situations you have to be careful not to get too excited and see the read everywhere. I think this may be the case, especially with how early he came out with it. I believe damerion mentioned damdred going on df with "ferocity". That's where he lost if for me. I didn't see damdred being ferocious at all. In fact I didn't feel he was really pushing a scum read that hard.
I don't know where I have damdred, he has done things I like and things I don't like. For damerion...Is he misguided overeager town or scum...probably over eager town.
I think Twaty and rsoultin are both town. I've agreed with most everything that Tina has said and I knew she would like costa. They both post in similair style. Costa's enthusiasm is enough for a tone read pass D1.
my scummy reads come from people who agree on the damdred wagon when they should probably know better. I think hf questioning damdred on his df and costa both being scum was bad. To me that was a guy giving two people who in his opinion have made questionable posts. Not considering partners at that stage. Rels is similar as a guy who has popped up with some one liners and then latched onto this damdred read.
I don't like Mderg I think his disappointment at the thread felt fake and his 10 page hf point was not my experience of hf at all. In general I have disagreed with almost everything he said apart from his agreement that damerion is just too aggro. So I could see Mderg knowing both damdred and damerion are town and trying to get some credit later...maybe im just biased with that .
Right now i'd lynch HF, rels, Mderg and prplhz because his 2 day afk is just bullshit.
I like kmatt but just because his 4d chess comment was really funny.
Sorry this turned into a ramble. God I spoke too soon. ♡! I just want to townread you forever for the awful reason of being in my headspace, even on things I haven't commented on. Or not so awful reason. Do I finally get a game with an active town ksc again?
Depends on how odious HF plans on being this game.
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On January 19 2018 07:28 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 07:24 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 07:17 rsoultin wrote:On January 19 2018 07:12 KelsierSC wrote:
I will try to organise my thoughts in a concise why.
Main issue is the damdred discussion. The impression I get is that damerion has a meta read that he is very proud of but in those situations you have to be careful not to get too excited and see the read everywhere. I think this may be the case, especially with how early he came out with it. I believe damerion mentioned damdred going on df with "ferocity". That's where he lost if for me. I didn't see damdred being ferocious at all. In fact I didn't feel he was really pushing a scum read that hard.
I don't know where I have damdred, he has done things I like and things I don't like. For damerion...Is he misguided overeager town or scum...probably over eager town.
I think Twaty and rsoultin are both town. I've agreed with most everything that Tina has said and I knew she would like costa. They both post in similair style. Costa's enthusiasm is enough for a tone read pass D1.
my scummy reads come from people who agree on the damdred wagon when they should probably know better. I think hf questioning damdred on his df and costa both being scum was bad. To me that was a guy giving two people who in his opinion have made questionable posts. Not considering partners at that stage. Rels is similar as a guy who has popped up with some one liners and then latched onto this damdred read.
I don't like Mderg I think his disappointment at the thread felt fake and his 10 page hf point was not my experience of hf at all. In general I have disagreed with almost everything he said apart from his agreement that damerion is just too aggro. So I could see Mderg knowing both damdred and damerion are town and trying to get some credit later...maybe im just biased with that .
Right now i'd lynch HF, rels, Mderg and prplhz because his 2 day afk is just bullshit.
I like kmatt but just because his 4d chess comment was really funny.
Sorry this turned into a ramble. God I spoke too soon. ♡! I just want to townread you forever for the awful reason of being in my headspace, even on things I haven't commented on. Or not so awful reason. Do I finally get a game with an active town ksc again? Depends on how odious HF plans on being this game. Well, if we're right and he's scum probably very? He's no fun to play with when he's scum because I can never get him lynched :/
I'm so happy I signed up...
On January 19 2018 07:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 07:12 KelsierSC wrote:
I will try to organise my thoughts in a concise why.
Main issue is the damdred discussion. The impression I get is that damerion has a meta read that he is very proud of but in those situations you have to be careful not to get too excited and see the read everywhere. I think this may be the case, especially with how early he came out with it. I believe damerion mentioned damdred going on df with "ferocity". That's where he lost if for me. I didn't see damdred being ferocious at all. In fact I didn't feel he was really pushing a scum read that hard.
I don't know where I have damdred, he has done things I like and things I don't like. For damerion...Is he misguided overeager town or scum...probably over eager town.
I think Twaty and rsoultin are both town. I've agreed with most everything that Tina has said and I knew she would like costa. They both post in similair style. Costa's enthusiasm is enough for a tone read pass D1.
my scummy reads come from people who agree on the damdred wagon when they should probably know better. I think hf questioning damdred on his df and costa both being scum was bad. To me that was a guy giving two people who in his opinion have made questionable posts. Not considering partners at that stage. Rels is similar as a guy who has popped up with some one liners and then latched onto this damdred read.
I don't like Mderg I think his disappointment at the thread felt fake and his 10 page hf point was not my experience of hf at all. In general I have disagreed with almost everything he said apart from his agreement that damerion is just too aggro. So I could see Mderg knowing both damdred and damerion are town and trying to get some credit later...maybe im just biased with that .
Right now i'd lynch HF, rels, Mderg and prplhz because his 2 day afk is just bullshit.
I like kmatt but just because his 4d chess comment was really funny.
Sorry this turned into a ramble. What a pile of drivel. Where did Damerion say damdred was ferocious against df? Not even a single mention of damdred's reaction to it. The thing that bugs me the most is you literally say Damerion posts are wrong WHEN DAMDRED HAS AGREED WITH THEM. This guy should absolutely be a lynch. I'm his fucking scum read for questioning damdred on his df and mocsta reads but twat did the exact same thing like a post before me and is town? Noopppppp
I'll try and respond to the other points you made.
I don't believe that damerion's posts are objectively wrong, however I don't think he is using this meta read correctly. I think if you have a read like that you start seeing it everwhere and trying to force it. Square peg in a round hole kind of idea.
I have never played with twaty before however I like a lot of his posts. However I don't think you would legitimately call damdred scum because one of his scum reads called the other one out. At that stage in the game a lot of people just see posts they don't like and say yeh i don't like you.
On January 19 2018 07:31 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 07:22 rsoultin wrote:On January 19 2018 07:14 Holyflare wrote:On January 19 2018 07:12 rsoultin wrote:
Blah phone posting. HF is adding nothing while egging some things on and pissing on others. Which if he is scum and that's a lovely ego stroke to catch him early, is super interesting.
Dismissing suspicion on df, throwing inscrutable shade on mocsta, cheering on a Damdred lynch that would probably be a town lynch. How have I added nothing? I started this damdred train and I dislike Mocsta's posts because he STILL has added nothing to the game. Damdred has basically confirmed himself mafia in my eyes. You don't agree with the call out and downplay it as if he noticed it. No way on earth. -snorts- damerion started the Damdred train. And your point is honestly retarded if you actually believe it. You think scum Damdred says yes this meta point that only you've noticed or mentioned is right but I only now just changed it, rather than ignore it or shrug it off as wrong? It's not even that this is your argument, it's that you see it like a smoking gun, apparently. And it wasn't even pointed out by you first. I think he thinks Damerion is an extremely good player that caught him and he panic responded absolutely.
I don't agree that this happens.
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HF do you have any thoughts on BDTD or rels?
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On January 19 2018 07:53 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 07:12 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't like Mderg I think his disappointment at the thread felt fake and his 10 page hf point was not my experience of hf at all. In general I have disagreed with almost everything he said apart from his agreement that damerion is just too aggro. So I could see Mderg knowing both damdred and damerion are town and trying to get some credit later...maybe im just biased with that .
Not getting to read even a single page after a night of sleep can be pretty disappointing. The 10 page filter comment was obviously exaggerated but I definitely remember hf having insane filter lengths in the past.
I think we have just interpreted posts and reactions very differently. So i am seeing everything you do as scummy at the moment.
I'm going to sleep so I will return with fresh eyes tomorrow.
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On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum
I don't think a list like this is very good. In reality you have provided yourself a lot of outs to change opinion without putting forward anything new.
Can you expand on df and explain why he is meh.
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Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.
Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.
I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.
I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.
I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.
with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.
At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.
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On January 19 2018 19:51 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 19:29 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum I don't think a list like this is very good. In reality you have provided yourself a lot of outs to change opinion without putting forward anything new. Can you expand on df and explain why he is meh. The goal of that list was not to put out anything groundbrakingly new. It's a way to summarize and organize my thoughts. Everything df said (except the townread on Rels imo) kind of makes sense. But I had pretty much no idea what he said before going through his filter. So his play feels a bit off despite making logically sound arguments.
Ok that makes some sense.
On January 19 2018 19:53 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.
Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.
I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.
I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.
I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.
with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.
At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.
soft defending a townie who's getting lynched is always making you look suspicious. That wouldn't be good scum play.
So based on rsoultin and HF's discussion and previous thoughts. You believe that damdred is town and Rels is scum who has just sidled onto the wagon without saying much. Do you think one of HF and damerion is also scum aswell? or both?
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On January 19 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.
Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.
I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.
I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.
I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.
with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.
At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.
To be fair, I think scumRels would be way more likely to do that if there was an alternative lynch going, which there wasn't. It still felt like a half-assed drive-by shooting but I can't say that it makes him scum. Not feeling a mderg lynch. It's not sparkly but I get a little swimming against the current and a little waffley not sure not sure from his filter that just feels towny to me. Not my strongest read, of course, but I'd rather not lynch him. Meeeh btdt's filter is just so weak for me. Hold on. I already forgot specifics.
btdt is weak I would agree.
I think df was one of the first people to call him out on that which gives me pause because df is also scummy to me. his post about costa talking to much , I guess his town read of rels makes sense in retrospect if they both think btdt is scummy. but is that enough for a town read...maybe.
df twice talked about the damerion/damdred thing, didnt commit to one side and then tried to get an alternate lynch going. First one he said damerion was being too aggressive or confirmation biased and then said btdt was scum.
then he said he wasn't sure on damdred/damerion and needed to reread, but costa was scum.
basically not committing to anyside and trying to get some alternative lynch going. The costa one especially felt bad.
I think df or btdt is scum though.
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On January 19 2018 20:10 rsoultin wrote:That's because there's nothing there! I just remember knock down drag out bitch fights from him. Clearly not present here. He says he's eager to play pre-game...where is that after game starts? He's not afk so that's not an explanation. Don't agree on the holyflare read being good. Though maybe he's played with holyflare more recently than me and that's why. And townreading me this game (except maybe in twatty's case which is actually kind of cute) is hardly insightful. The mocsta stuff is super weak. In the realm of people shitting on mocsta, which I didn't like in general, his has to be the worst. Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 06:07 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 19 2018 05:05 darthfoley wrote:On January 19 2018 01:21 Rels wrote:
I also don't like BTDT's first post. Feels weird.
I also don't like rsoul being the Damdred whisperer and being bothered with him but not poking him to get a proper read Oui mon ami, oui! connerie, mes amis ^ He was definitely here to have an opinion or comment on...anything. Just anything. Didn't. Although I did just look up the French and now I want to ask him what he was disagreeing with. I don't put him in the same category as prp and kmatt at all. Still fine with a darth folely lynch though. Devil's advocate says if BTDT is town he's an easy one to point fingers at, and that was df.
Fair enough, I don't remember ever playing with BTDT so I will take your word on it. He has been weak , I would prefer to lynch df at this point but if nothing else is forthcoming from BTDT then he becomes a better lynch.
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On January 19 2018 20:21 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 19:59 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 19:51 mderg wrote:On January 19 2018 19:29 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum I don't think a list like this is very good. In reality you have provided yourself a lot of outs to change opinion without putting forward anything new. Can you expand on df and explain why he is meh. The goal of that list was not to put out anything groundbrakingly new. It's a way to summarize and organize my thoughts. Everything df said (except the townread on Rels imo) kind of makes sense. But I had pretty much no idea what he said before going through his filter. So his play feels a bit off despite making logically sound arguments. Ok that makes some sense. On January 19 2018 19:53 mderg wrote:On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.
Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.
I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.
I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.
I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.
with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.
At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.
soft defending a townie who's getting lynched is always making you look suspicious. That wouldn't be good scum play. So based on rsoultin and HF's discussion and previous thoughts. You believe that damdred is town and Rels is scum who has just sidled onto the wagon without saying much. Do you think one of HF and damerion is also scum aswell? or both? I don't think all 3 of them are scum together. Both damerion and hf are in my would lynch because scummy pile with damerion being higher up in the scummy department.
I personally don't buy that world. Where a scum makes a push on town damdred and then scum rels just shotguns in, but if there are scum on that push then your order makes the most sense. I'll wait and see what happens.
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I guess BTDT works as a lynch . I suppose he has a high chance of flipping scum.
Mderg you are here , what do you think about a BTDT lynch?
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I have to head out so I will vote here for now. I think its ok but not really ok ok. I should be back for near deadline so can evaluate then.
##vote beentheredonethat
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On January 20 2018 04:43 darthfoley wrote:The fact that like 4 people are agreeing with my scum read on BTDT while also pushing me is scummy as fuck. Kelsier sticks out as particularly odd in this progression Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 19:29 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum I don't think a list like this is very good. In reality you have provided yourself a lot of outs to change opinion without putting forward anything new. Can you expand on df and explain why he is meh. This implies some sense of skepticism or town read on me. He then 180s more or less by giving a vague summary of my filter to justify the current hot-take in the thread. What is this reasoning? Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 20:15 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 20:10 rsoultin wrote:That's because there's nothing there! I just remember knock down drag out bitch fights from him. Clearly not present here. He says he's eager to play pre-game...where is that after game starts? He's not afk so that's not an explanation. Don't agree on the holyflare read being good. Though maybe he's played with holyflare more recently than me and that's why. And townreading me this game (except maybe in twatty's case which is actually kind of cute) is hardly insightful. The mocsta stuff is super weak. In the realm of people shitting on mocsta, which I didn't like in general, his has to be the worst. On January 19 2018 06:07 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 19 2018 05:05 darthfoley wrote:On January 19 2018 01:21 Rels wrote:
I also don't like BTDT's first post. Feels weird.
I also don't like rsoul being the Damdred whisperer and being bothered with him but not poking him to get a proper read Oui mon ami, oui! connerie, mes amis ^ He was definitely here to have an opinion or comment on...anything. Just anything. Didn't. Although I did just look up the French and now I want to ask him what he was disagreeing with. I don't put him in the same category as prp and kmatt at all. Still fine with a darth folely lynch though. Devil's advocate says if BTDT is town he's an easy one to point fingers at, and that was df. Fair enough, I don't remember ever playing with BTDT so I will take your word on it. He has been weak , I would prefer to lynch df at this point but if nothing else is forthcoming from BTDT then he becomes a better lynch. Why do you prefer to lynch DF > BTDT but if BTDT doesn't do anything, then BTDT > DF. How does this make any sense? Why would your lynch preference change if nothing changes?
It isn't "scummy as fuck" that people think both you and BTDT are scummy. There are reasons why you are scummy and reasons why BTDT are scummy. One of you is town who is not appearing town and we are figuring it out. I think you are being overly aggresive about this.
In regards to your questions to myself.
I was unsure of you and I haven't liked mderg so I wanted to see what he said about you.
The second question, well like I said you have both done things I don't like but BTDT his inactivity is bad. So the longer he is inactive the worse it gets for BTDT.
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On January 20 2018 01:51 Kmatt wrote:
Also I don't see myself voting Damdred today unless he does something seriously incriminating. The way things are headed I'd be okay with a BTDT wagon.
so do you like df then?
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On January 20 2018 04:50 darthfoley wrote:
Atm I think BTDT/Mocsta/Kelscier are decent chances to hit scum. Rsoultin as well
This seems ...
Like are you just upset that people think you are scum
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On January 20 2018 05:01 darthfoley wrote:
I guess Kelscier gets some credit for asking Mderg about BTDT lynch. Meh
Thanks that really means a lot
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On January 20 2018 05:03 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 04:56 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 04:52 Damdred wrote:
*Burp* why have you summined mw Yeeees. See beetle juice powers! \o/ Weren't you going to, I don't know, play? If you're town (and I still think you are but you're making me doubt in ways I don't like) you're making it hard for me to find a way to not lynch you, you know. I do not make good cases. I just make a good gnat. Let me make this clear then, it is extremely difficult for my style so early to find meaninful conclusions when so much of the thread is about me. I still think the game comes down to DF/moc and then some form of combination afterwards. I do not believe btdt is scum, his play is to off the cuff and free imo. If I had to lay a idea down thw btdt v damdred wagon is t v t and i wont vote him to save myself. DF and moc are name dropping each other a bit to create distance but its just shadow games and soft pushes at this point. Moc vote on me was suoer opportunistic, his vote is over explained and well for just an ok case my damer as he calls it he sure does go in hard. DF is a little to clean here to me and isnt rwally digging anywhere worthwhile. RS, Kel, btdt are never scum to me. After that I really have small inklings, twat doing his vote and never making another contriubtion at this point is head acratching but he could be busy. Same for damer. HF could go either way and rels. So eh?
Rels has felt more solid these last few pages.
I'd have to reread the moc case on you, I'm not sure if scum moc needs to go so hard against you because if my memory is right rels,twatty,hf and damerion where already somewhat against you, he probably could have just sheeped some idea right if he wants to bury you or just chill out elsewhere and then if you get lynched its good for him..I still get the impression that he's just a bit of an odd fellow but probably town.
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@Damdred I wouldn't lynch costa, I like the idea of a df lynch a lot more now he is made his case against me and called rsoultin scum. just feels like some fake emotion.
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##unvote
##vote darthfoley
let's do it.
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everytime I read that BTDT filter though....like does this guy really get a pass.
I guess in his defence there is less things to dislike than df.
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On January 20 2018 05:15 mderg wrote:
I'm not liking that I more and more like how Rels is posting
What is it that you like? His town read of you?
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@Damdred
Can you explain why BTDT has gone from like a slight town read to never scum .
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@Damdred. The point im a bit confused about is that you like BTDT from his insight about mocsta?
"As for BTDT, mostly its just a gut feeling and I agreed with his insight so he can be an ally for today."
However darth has been pretty against mocsta aswell.
So doesn't that mean darth is likely town aswell to you? in which case why would it be better to lynch him over BTDT .
unless of course Darth is mafia pushing town mocsta, but if so why would you like BTDT who's only notable read has been "mocsta is weird".
Or is you just like the tone of BTDT regardless of the mocsta stuff, and you want to lynch df because he is the only other wagon...
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On January 20 2018 05:39 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 05:18 KelsierSC wrote:On January 20 2018 05:15 mderg wrote:
I'm not liking that I more and more like how Rels is posting What is it that you like? His town read of you? I didn't get the impression that he has me as town. Looked more like a scum -> null progression to me. The 'we dislike the same post but your reasons are wrong' thing looks pretty good to me + Show Spoiler +On January 20 2018 04:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 04:43 darthfoley wrote:
The fact that like 4 people are agreeing with my scum read on BTDT while also pushing me is scummy as fuck. Your BTDT read is not very good TBH. We both didn't like the same post but I don't think your reasons to scumread BTDT are very good. Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 04:43 darthfoley wrote:Kelsier sticks out as particularly odd in this progression On January 19 2018 19:29 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum I don't think a list like this is very good. In reality you have provided yourself a lot of outs to change opinion without putting forward anything new. Can you expand on df and explain why he is meh. This implies some sense of skepticism or town read on me. He then 180s more or less by giving a vague summary of my filter to justify the current hot-take in the thread. What is this reasoning? On January 19 2018 20:15 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 20:10 rsoultin wrote:That's because there's nothing there! I just remember knock down drag out bitch fights from him. Clearly not present here. He says he's eager to play pre-game...where is that after game starts? He's not afk so that's not an explanation. Don't agree on the holyflare read being good. Though maybe he's played with holyflare more recently than me and that's why. And townreading me this game (except maybe in twatty's case which is actually kind of cute) is hardly insightful. The mocsta stuff is super weak. In the realm of people shitting on mocsta, which I didn't like in general, his has to be the worst. On January 19 2018 06:07 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 19 2018 05:05 darthfoley wrote:On January 19 2018 01:21 Rels wrote:
I also don't like BTDT's first post. Feels weird.
I also don't like rsoul being the Damdred whisperer and being bothered with him but not poking him to get a proper read Oui mon ami, oui! connerie, mes amis ^ He was definitely here to have an opinion or comment on...anything. Just anything. Didn't. Although I did just look up the French and now I want to ask him what he was disagreeing with. I don't put him in the same category as prp and kmatt at all. Still fine with a darth folely lynch though. Devil's advocate says if BTDT is town he's an easy one to point fingers at, and that was df. Fair enough, I don't remember ever playing with BTDT so I will take your word on it. He has been weak , I would prefer to lynch df at this point but if nothing else is forthcoming from BTDT then he becomes a better lynch. Why do you prefer to lynch DF > BTDT but if BTDT doesn't do anything, then BTDT > DF. How does this make any sense? Why would your lynch preference change if nothing changes? I don't follow how KSC asking for a clarification of his read on you implies he townreads you.
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reckon the mafia QT was like
darth - Yo HF, damerion get back in the thread i'm getting fucked
hf, damerion - got your back fam.
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this is not town damdred
look at damdred he is so scum.
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dramatised obvz.
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Thanks for host, was a fun one.
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