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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 14 2017 22:06 GMT
#11
/obs i guess
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 15 2017 20:15 GMT
#21
/in

rux told me to since i just sit around the house atm.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 16 2017 00:34 GMT
#28
On November 16 2017 08:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2017 08:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 16 2017 07:47 ruXxar wrote:
Hai my name is holy flare.

/in

Clever ruse but i see thru your trickery

Yup.

I knew it was Holyflare as soon as he said he was Holyflare, so I'm not falling for that one. I think you missed my /in though.


Welcome aboard sir! Glad you are pary of the game.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 16 2017 17:58 GMT
#34
Yeah I was looking forward to playing with kels
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 16:16 GMT
#54
##lynch ve at twilight today
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 20:32 GMT
#61
First, confirmed town
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 20:33 GMT
#62
dammit just first on this page, oats is mafia though so life is easy
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 20:41 GMT
#66
Oats did make me laugh with his witty personity so dont think i want to lynch him today XD.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 21:06 GMT
#67
I keep f5 and hope someone else has posted but alas, rux being absent is interesting when we spoke not to long ago on discord!

##vote ruxxar
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 21:27 GMT
#71
Hi ruxxy, what did your pm say?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 21:42 GMT
#73
Drat, im just to pro for you ruxxy. Under my intense gaze who are your partners?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 21:59 GMT
#76
I think in rux jest he might of dumb tols himself town (bad read).

Maybe, I gotta think about that hm.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 22:09 GMT
#78
Hi tw.

I have decided ruxxy is just town and it is dumb but seems brilliant to me!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 22:09 GMT
#79
On November 19 2017 06:59 Z-BosoN wrote:
KelsierSC, explain yourself. Are you pretending to engage in this banter in order to excuse yourself from posting?

Other than that, Stanislav Petrov seems like utter scum.

# Vote Stanislav Petrov



So your scum with stan?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 22:45 GMT
#86
On November 19 2017 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 07:09 Damdred wrote:
Hi tw.

I have decided ruxxy is just town and it is dumb but seems brilliant to me!


man you're playing pretty loose my dude , you ok


Yes, I know it seems stupid but rux has not played many games above 13 players. When I jokingly ask him for his scum team he only lists two other players (including himself), if he was scum he would be aware the scum team has to be larger than three with the extra people.

Therefore I think Rux dumb telled himself town.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 22:51 GMT
#88
On November 19 2017 07:46 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 07:45 Damdred wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:09 Damdred wrote:
Hi tw.

I have decided ruxxy is just town and it is dumb but seems brilliant to me!


man you're playing pretty loose my dude , you ok


Yes, I know it seems stupid but rux has not played many games above 13 players. When I jokingly ask him for his scum team he only lists two other players (including himself), if he was scum he would be aware the scum team has to be larger than three with the extra people.

Therefore I think Rux dumb telled himself town.


Can't tell if that's really smart or really stupid.


I know! I feel like im sonewhere between brilliant and idiocacy on this.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 18 2017 23:18 GMT
#94
On November 19 2017 08:06 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 07:51 Damdred wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:45 Damdred wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:09 Damdred wrote:
Hi tw.

I have decided ruxxy is just town and it is dumb but seems brilliant to me!


man you're playing pretty loose my dude , you ok


Yes, I know it seems stupid but rux has not played many games above 13 players. When I jokingly ask him for his scum team he only lists two other players (including himself), if he was scum he would be aware the scum team has to be larger than three with the extra people.

Therefore I think Rux dumb telled himself town.


Can't tell if that's really smart or really stupid.


I know! I feel like im sonewhere between brilliant and idiocacy on this.


I don't know why I spent time thinking about this but i have concluded it's dumb.

although I would have respect if the mafia team is you, rux, koshi and foley and you are going for the most swagger as possible.

Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 07:51 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:31 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 06:59 Z-BosoN wrote:
KelsierSC, explain yourself. Are you pretending to engage in this banter in order to excuse yourself from posting?

Other than that, Stanislav Petrov seems like utter scum.

# Vote Stanislav Petrov



Am I pretending to post to avoid posting?


No, you are actually posting, but you might be pretending to pretend to post to avoid questions about your pretending to post.

Ok I'll stop

Aside from Stan, who do you think is mafia?


let's just hang out . No need to go so hard in the paint this early.


i disagree I think its smart now.

Now what do you think of stan etc talking about each other?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 19 2017 00:43 GMT
#105
On November 19 2017 09:19 Holyflare wrote:
Shame damd is mafia for realising that pro strat though. I don't even know how many mafia there are and I don't think he usually reads ops either.

Maybe.


RIP the dream, but at least hf recognizes my brilliance.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 19 2017 01:38 GMT
#106
On November 19 2017 09:03 Z-BosoN wrote:
Ruxxar and Oats have shown the let's leave a message here and disappear sort of approach, which raises flags to my eyes. I like Damdred

We definitely need to hear from some other posters. I know, I know, it's only been a few hours but I'm so angsty.

Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 19 2017 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!


If you can tell us your mafia buddies, I will be more than glad to just chill and get along.

Ignore the other person that called you retarded, he's just that mean. Cooperating with us is in your best interests.

Btw, let's not get too deep into these web of associations this early on.

Who would you choose as scum out of KelsierSC/Ruxxar/Damdred? One pick.


I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me.
Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers


That's unfortunate. You will find soon enough that life is not about easy choices.



What do you think of his answer on his lynch order?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 19 2017 03:20 GMT
#125
Chez
Boson
Rux

is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.

Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?

Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 19 2017 05:18 GMT
#133
On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux

is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.

Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?

Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.



Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of.
Rux is... ? Is this a meta read?

As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary.


You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.

Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 14:52 GMT
#304
Hiya, im here now and should be all day.

DF usually you are more aggressive especially about not getting lynched, what is happening? and what do you thinl about anyone in the game?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 15:14 GMT
#316
On November 21 2017 00:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 23:52 darthfoley wrote:
On November 20 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
On November 19 2017 14:18 Damdred wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux

is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.

Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?

Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.



Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of.
Rux is... ? Is this a meta read?

As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary.


You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.

Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.


Complete polar opposite to how he looks to me.


This is something I actually agree with. Isn't this exactly the same justification he used last game on ruxx when he was mafia lol

Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 00:37 darthfoley wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:31 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Ruxx and Boson are probably Town


Is this “Ruxx is town” echo chamber related to his meta? O feel like Im missing something.

I feel like Im missing something.

Also, what are your thoughts on Tumblewood and holyflare?


I think Damdred's point on ruxx is decent plus his questioning of Kelsier is what i know to be town!Ruxx.

TW i always think is scummy and it's the same this game. I only remember one comment by HF about mafia number game setup mechanics which is scummy.



??????



I think this is a bit mialeading hf, the second quote came before the first after all.

He clearly liked my three mafia makes rux town read and didnt like the playful read I gave later to justify/add to my rux read.

Shame shame.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 15:15 GMT
#319
On November 21 2017 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Mafia in Stan, Oats, and TW. Honorable mention to Hapa


But which one?

or all three/four?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 15:18 GMT
#324
On November 21 2017 00:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 00:14 Damdred wrote:
On November 21 2017 00:04 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2017 23:52 darthfoley wrote:
On November 20 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
On November 19 2017 14:18 Damdred wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux

is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.

Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?

Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.



Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of.
Rux is... ? Is this a meta read?

As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary.


You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.

Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.


Complete polar opposite to how he looks to me.


This is something I actually agree with. Isn't this exactly the same justification he used last game on ruxx when he was mafia lol

On November 20 2017 00:37 darthfoley wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:31 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Ruxx and Boson are probably Town


Is this “Ruxx is town” echo chamber related to his meta? O feel like Im missing something.

I feel like Im missing something.

Also, what are your thoughts on Tumblewood and holyflare?


I think Damdred's point on ruxx is decent plus his questioning of Kelsier is what i know to be town!Ruxx.

TW i always think is scummy and it's the same this game. I only remember one comment by HF about mafia number game setup mechanics which is scummy.



??????



I think this is a bit mialeading hf, the second quote came before the first after all.

He clearly liked my three mafia makes rux town read and didnt like the playful read I gave later to justify/add to my rux read.

Shame shame.


No, I simply thought he agreed with all of your reads on ruxxar and somehow has just backtracked. Turns out it was just the first part and I misread his post. No shame.


Ill allow this, you know he has a point about Oats though. Really sort of low energy for him and seems content on df besides a couple bursts of postings. What do you think?

Halfway reminds me of his scum game being content
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 15:26 GMT
#330
On November 21 2017 00:20 Holyflare wrote:
Why did you say ruxx looks like he's having fun, damd?


I felt like our initial interaction he was really loose and was happy and playful with me. I read it as having fun, his later posts werent necessarily fun though and honestly hes lacking some of the pop he usually has. I miss ruxxy
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 15:37 GMT
#336
On November 21 2017 00:28 darthfoley wrote:
Meh. Idk who is more scummy.

Let's vote Petrov and see what the wind blows

##Vote: Stanislav Petrov


Ill ride with this for now and see where it goes.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 16:11 GMT
#349
On November 21 2017 01:09 KelsierSC wrote:
First outcome would be I don't want to lynch oats, I had his name down because it had come up in the thread a few times but I actually like the vibe I get from him and he posted a few things that I found myself nodding to so he's ok.

I don't want to lynch stan, I initially didn't like how he just came out of nowhere and voted darth when the pressure was on darth. But thinking about it more and reading Stan I get the impression that he isn't trying to make friends or hang back and blend in . He was pretty aggressive early on and then just comes out of nowhere with no justification and puts the vote out there.If i'm mafia in that situation I probably say something like
"oh kelsier was scummy but seems ok now and I like the pressure people have put on df so have him as scum"
Yeh I like Stan as town the more I think about it.




I need you to show how this is true from stans filter
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 16:13 GMT
#350
me and df should just hydra while we are tag teaming kels post high and low.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 16:40 GMT
#372
Kel I require you nit to ignore me and expand right now on your stan read with examples. Because it reads like total bullshit
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 16:52 GMT
#381
On November 21 2017 01:45 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 01:41 Koshi wrote:
Opened hapa and palmar tgeir filter. Then decided to open hf filter against better judgement. Now I am very sad.

I have it on good authority that there are 3 mafia. So it is ok to ml a couple times.

This is all the help I will give town today. Maybe I will be mpre generous in future days.


What does this even mean


Its impossible to know, trust me I asked
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 17:53 GMT
#413
On November 21 2017 02:43 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Okey I'll adress this exactly ones because it's taking up way to much threadspace.
Why I think darthfoley is mafia.
1)There was the Boson contradiction
2)His only reads are town
3)His not lynching chez post (Yes it's an unserious joke but mafia are more inclined to write a excuse for doing something both because they have a desire to guard themselves from any inqusitive people before they ask and because since they don't have genuine thoughts they write down their reason so they don't forget themselves)

The first 2 are the major points and they had been stated by others, It add's nothing for me to say it again or by rephrasing it slightly so it looks like my own thoughts.

4)So far darthfoley has still not tried to make a case on anybody else despite being the lynchcandiate.


What boson contradictio. exactly?

2 and 3 do t make people scum... and four he has stated his reads which contradict point two anyway.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 17:54 GMT
#416
On November 21 2017 02:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:
damdred am i town?



Idk, dont have a read on you. And honestly i do t like your stan read at all.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 17:59 GMT
#422
On November 21 2017 02:56 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 02:52 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 21 2017 02:37 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote Darthfoley
##Vote Sanislav Petrov

Darthfoley was a test.
Stanislav Petrov failed.
Holyflare failed.
Tumblewood gets a D-.

Stanislav Petrov is all-over-the-place, is throwing shade, and isn't pushing anything coherent. Shortly after giving a lynch list of...
On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 19 2017 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!


If you can tell us your mafia buddies, I will be more than glad to just chill and get along.

Ignore the other person that called you retarded, he's just that mean. Cooperating with us is in your best interests.

Btw, let's not get too deep into these web of associations this early on.

Who would you choose as scum out of KelsierSC/Ruxxar/Damdred? One pick.


I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me.
Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers

... he blind sheeps the darthfoley wagon without really ever pushing it. His next two posts are pushing the wagon without really contributing or attempting to figure out darthfoley:
On November 20 2017 18:28 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care?

You're trying to stop it right now. The 'nobody is trying to stop it so therefore the accused is innocent' argument sound good in theory but has rarely proved accurate in my experience. And that's without considering how disastrous it would be to let that become meta. The facts are darthfoley is the most suspicious person, so we should lynch him.


...and pushing two other players while having his vote on darthfoley.
On November 21 2017 02:20 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
I intended to me more active but I've been having a fever with a killer headache so I've just done some casual reading and lurking. But I'll be here aswell untill the lynch aswell but as of now I don't see a reason to switch target.

Oat's have definitely been getting away with doing the bare minimum, spam, unserious accusations and asking non-important questions in a 2 page filter.

On Conversation. If he hadn't voted me I'd say he's done nothing but throw questions into the air and hope somebody else picked them up and pushed them for him which is scum play. But he did vote me but looking at that because it also feels ungenuine to me. He sheeped Kelsier for the case and didn't aggressively accuse me of being scum as much as he voted me as a parking vote to pressure me to come back and explain something fairly non-important. And has no other scumreads. I don't like that it feels like he's both pushing me superhard by singling me out as his only scumread and at the same time isn't pressuring me hard at all but just says come back and explain this and until you do I'll have an alibi for voting you.




So, heuristically I think that Stan would have been less all-over-the-place if he was mafia. He seems like a newer player not sure where to move next. I'd place him in the same category as TW: kinda mafia looking, kinda lynch-baity looking.

Holyflare has done little but tunnel darthfoley, who was already leading in votes. I'm not sure what the townie motivation there is there. He looks a lot more scummy in his defensiveness to my eyes.

I would also be down for an oatsmaster lynch. Please look at his filter and agree.


Oats is behaving like oats. It's been a while since I've played with him, but all his games are pretty one-linery-ish, incoherent, spammy, etc. What specifically about him is damning?


Last three or four games hes been hyperactive oats with the wffort.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 18:11 GMT
#431
So lets see

DF
Me
Kel
Bos

Rux
Conversiom
Chez

Those are my towns atm, hf could be near there but yeah. Kels reaction to a null read is mu h likelier to come from his town self imo
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 18:36 GMT
#444
Just from my place I dont want ro lynch tw today, I feel bad about being hard om him and always having his alignment wrong.

However I could be tempted into a Palmar or Koshi lynch. If we dont stick with stan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 18:40 GMT
#447
Focus ruxxy, tell me something interesting.
Damdred
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November 20 2017 18:46 GMT
#448
I think it is a bad post but not scum indicative.
Damdred
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November 20 2017 19:24 GMT
#474
On November 21 2017 03:47 darthfoley wrote:
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On November 21 2017 03:46 Damdred wrote:
I think it is a bad post but not scum indicative.


Why not? Off wagon person telling the rest to not screw up is Town indicative?


Its null at worst imo, if you want to make a case based off everything kel did im listening but this one incedent isnt enough.
Damdred
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November 20 2017 19:27 GMT
#481
Darth is town though I believe, so nope I think Stan is a good place for me.

We can talk kel tonight if you make it df.
Damdred
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November 20 2017 19:29 GMT
#485
On November 21 2017 04:28 Conversion wrote:
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On November 21 2017 04:27 Damdred wrote:
Darth is town though I believe, so nope I think Stan is a good place for me.

We can talk kel tonight if you make it df.


I'll join in on this discussion if you allow me


I will allow it on this auspicious day.
Damdred
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November 20 2017 19:32 GMT
#491
On November 21 2017 04:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On November 21 2017 04:27 Damdred wrote:
Darth is town though I believe, so nope I think Stan is a good place for me.

We can talk kel tonight if you make it df.

Er alright totally gonna convince people with that.

Oh wait no, you are just unnecessarily justifying not lynching scum


Actually I am pretty sure Stan will be lynched today over df. You are painting df as scummy for having multiple people as his scum reads.

That is not inherently scummy, in fact it is in fact good content to push him on. His reasoning for stan is ok, and him trying to aurvive is null.

The content he has produced and his thoughts are generally town focused.

So yes, df is more than likely town.
Damdred
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November 20 2017 19:45 GMT
#512
On November 21 2017 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Hey ruxxar and conversion I’m interested in what you think about z-boss’ hf case


Once palmar respected me, now he ignores me.
Damdred
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November 20 2017 19:51 GMT
#520
On November 21 2017 04:48 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 21 2017 03:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 20 2017 09:06 darthfoley wrote:
On November 20 2017 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Even though the df wagon looks super fast growing and not much defence against him or whatever I also think it's a good wagon. Even for the points hapa brought up but also because he just throws out free town reads for really random posts like Chezinu's posts etc.


Why do you include this baloni qualifier at the beginning? If you like the wagon why are you also pointing out how it's quickly growing with no defense for me?

Hedge master supreme


Weird-ass post.

On November 20 2017 10:36 Holyflare wrote:
And there's the things you pick out. You ask zboson, your town read, why he does such a weird pick mafia out of three thing but then when someone else asks what you think about lynching me/tw etc you don't give a shit about them asking that.

And you dislike kelsier's jarring comment which isn't particularly hard to fathom what he means at all. If he's mafia he's lying that something was jarring or what? What's your thought process behind him making that comment as mafia?


Repeating previous arguments against DF for non-understandabe reasons.

On November 21 2017 00:26 Holyflare wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately


Weird comment


Talking about Damdred. Doesnt like that someone wants to lynch damdred with that line of thought but... just a few posts before:

On November 20 2017 18:06 Holyflare wrote:
Fwiw I think damdred could be mafia with an increasing probability


So someone accuses a person that you think is mafia with "increasing probability" for some reason, and instead of trying to dissect the other argument to support and push it, he just says "weird comment"? What the fuckshit?

Aside from that strange blooper, he does some to push Damdred on a strange read:

On November 20 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
On November 19 2017 14:18 Damdred wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux

is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.

Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?

Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.



Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of.
Rux is... ? Is this a meta read?

As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary.


You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.

Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.


Complete polar opposite to how he looks to me.



So he is sus of Damdred for being sus of a person that he disagrees "doesn't seem to have much in the way of motives" (i.e. he also doesnt like ruxxar)


He then continue to get some crappy "damdred sais ruxx is having fun, which is THE OPPOSITE of how I view him"


Holyflare has just started being active after he felt some pressure. He is inconsistent in his reads and follow ups of damdred/ruxx. He has all but tunneled df mindlessly without adding much. Can we please murder him?

##Vote HF

This conclusion is pushing it a bit.

How was he inconsistent in his reads?

Who has he tunneled?


He tunneled DF, your lynch target, like crazy, when he was already up in votes. Used repeated arguments.

He is inconsistent in his ruxx/Damdred reads. He was piling up on Damd being scum, and then someone says that "Damd", his target, should be lynched because <insert reason>.

All he does is say "weird comment". Inconsistent to his supposed scum read. Damd also was against ruxx, whom he also happened to think was scummy looking. It smells man


This is a good post .

Also not scummy to have more than one scum read and see which people would be willing to lynch Oats
Damdred
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November 20 2017 19:54 GMT
#526
On November 21 2017 04:50 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 04:45 Damdred wrote:
On November 21 2017 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Hey ruxxar and conversion I’m interested in what you think about z-boss’ hf case


Once palmar respected me, now he ignores me.

Well in that case hf disagrees with you on Ruiz, but I kinda agree with you. I think rxx looks town.

So you still exist in my world despite being at best a fancy prop.


Fancy prop can be useful.

Here is a dirty case on stan,

His reads are inconsistent early game and some reads ie read on myself and rux just get dropped and never revisited.

He also asks questions about myself and has no follow up and really does not seem to care.

When the df wagon starts going at a decent pace he hops on without any real explanation, he then misrepresents df filter to try to overjustify his vote on df.

He then dissapears obviously.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 20:09 GMT
#546
I would switch to hf, the case is decent and i want to save df.
Damdred
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November 20 2017 20:20 GMT
#565
Palmar lynch stan with us and ill shoot hf tonight, if not we need three people to lock hf up
Damdred
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15669 Posts
November 20 2017 20:23 GMT
#574
fuck it jumping saving df
Damdred
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15669 Posts
November 20 2017 20:25 GMT
#579
go go go
Damdred
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November 20 2017 20:29 GMT
#590
idk how this tirns out but i really have missed palmar
Damdred
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November 20 2017 20:43 GMT
#619
when was i vig again? Its been a year or two since i had a gun
Damdred
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November 21 2017 16:40 GMT
#754
@stan if df is scum and its a bus why does hapa do something that is reliant on another big name to get the lynch off df when he could of just lynched you instead?

His play might be scum but explain why you do a feign bus onto someone who at the time has 0 chance of being lynched?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 21 2017 16:43 GMT
#755
On November 22 2017 01:13 darthfoley wrote:
I need to go back and look at the HF lynch. I'm still not really sure why the HF lynch got so much steam so quickly


Palmar+saving you was 3/4 the reasoning
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 21 2017 16:46 GMT
#756
Now the fact that we could onky get 5 votes for stan and managed to get every single person on stan to move+hapa/palmar not wanting to move is interesting.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 21 2017 16:55 GMT
#761
well lets let him respond to us,

So what do you think of kel df (pssst conversion)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 21 2017 17:17 GMT
#766
Rux could be scum but lets stay focused and talk about a person a time df.

Koshi is problematic, even with hi knowinf there are three scum which he cant know btw.

He isnt doing anything and he just floundering around the lynch. He is worth keeping in the lynch pool.

So right now this is where you are df: Stan/Koshi/Rux(?) and who else?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 21 2017 17:23 GMT
#768
On November 22 2017 02:16 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2017 01:55 Damdred wrote:
well lets let him respond to us,

So what do you think of kel df (pssst conversion)


We should probably pressure Kelsier to not play so anti-town.

Not going to rehash the case, but OMGUS deflection, voting off wagon and going AFK and telling town not to screw up, focusing on town "screwing up" instead of doing anything then AFKing again is horrible town play.

his "lynch between oats and tw" without any follow up (especially when oats picked up the pace) is just super bad town, if not scum.

how about you?


Nows the perfect time to rehash cases to figure things out buddy.

But as for kel there is little to go on, he is playing someehat anti town. But hes doing it so overtly that I sort of think he is town being meh.

His off the wagon vote flew in the face of everythinf going on which made hin stand out. He went against thread sentiment a decent amount so far. And he had actual thoughts, some were bad though so there is that.

Pkus his i stant reaction to me not having a read on him felt organic and right coming from kel and if he was scum I believe he would try to win me over instead of thinking i was sxum. But he dropped that so it is a 60/40 town for mw atm.
Damdred
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November 21 2017 17:52 GMT
#773
On November 22 2017 02:42 darthfoley wrote:
Damdred who are you scum reading atm?


Stan/Koshi

TW on a lean

Happa

after this I have reasons to think most people are town
Damdred
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November 21 2017 17:53 GMT
#774
On November 22 2017 02:39 darthfoley wrote:
Who were the people that refused to commit to the Stan wagon and kept pressure on afk town!HF?

It was 5-5-3 but Stan never got above 5


Boson, happa, palmar
Damdred
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November 21 2017 18:03 GMT
#775
Maybe im giving bos to big a free pass, he said he would consolidate om stan to save df but with minutes to go hes not making much of a move even when people he thinks are scum (oats) are hard pushimg df.

Its strange some parts of his filter
Damdred
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November 21 2017 18:43 GMT
#783
On November 22 2017 03:36 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2017 03:03 Damdred wrote:
Maybe im giving bos to big a free pass, he said he would consolidate om stan to save df but with minutes to go hes not making much of a move even when people he thinks are scum (oats) are hard pushimg df.

Its strange some parts of his filter


I thought HF was the best candidate. I had a small heuristic read on Stan that made him a shittier candidate than HF. When Palmar started pushing the HF train I was like "sweet. problem solved"

Though I'm currently failing to see who comes out of this more scummier than the rest. I might also die soon so fuck.


but your stan heuristic of being a new player fumbling was proven wromg and you never reevlusted that read.

So you had what seems to be a tr on df near the end but you made very little in the way of waves to try to aave him exactly? and it relied on us moving within like 3 minutes to do so?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 21 2017 19:03 GMT
#785
lol? Why you put a koshi post in a case against kel?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 21 2017 19:11 GMT
#790
On November 21 2017 05:06 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'll keep my vote where it is. Too bad the only active people are stan people. df people is just Oats, and he's biased/scum.


here oats, during the night he declares you town though
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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November 21 2017 19:16 GMT
#792
On November 22 2017 04:08 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2017 03:43 Damdred wrote:
On November 22 2017 03:36 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 22 2017 03:03 Damdred wrote:
Maybe im giving bos to big a free pass, he said he would consolidate om stan to save df but with minutes to go hes not making much of a move even when people he thinks are scum (oats) are hard pushimg df.

Its strange some parts of his filter


I thought HF was the best candidate. I had a small heuristic read on Stan that made him a shittier candidate than HF. When Palmar started pushing the HF train I was like "sweet. problem solved"

Though I'm currently failing to see who comes out of this more scummier than the rest. I might also die soon so fuck.


but your stan heuristic of being a new player fumbling was proven wromg and you never reevlusted that read.

So you had what seems to be a tr on df near the end but you made very little in the way of waves to try to aave him exactly? and it relied on us moving within like 3 minutes to do so?


Um, read my filter man. I was fighting for the HF (you typed DF but I think this is what you meant) lynch. I was Chief Strategist for Shepherd Palmar. Also, I didn't rely on anything. I wanted the HF lynch to happen, and pushed for it.

The heuristic is pretty shit, I will agree, but it's day one. Not much to go on. It also looked to me like Stan was trying and stuff. Palmar and some other person feel the same way, so I find strength in my claims.

Btw, I might get shot. Are you here? You're town, and I'm town. One of us might get shot today. Let's chat as townsfolk today and tomorrow you can continue your investigation on me. Sound good?

That being said, I'm confused as fuck about Kelsier. I had a fairly strong town read on him but he's doing weird shit.


Im not arguing that you werent consistant in wanting to lymch hf, your first two pages are trying to see if anyone is interested in that.

I did mean to type df as you said he would not be the lynch today, but if we hadnt of switched he would of been. And you made very little effort to consolidate is my point.

I disagree that stan was really trying hard, its more like pulling teeth from him tbh (no offense stan). But yes we will continue our talk
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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November 21 2017 19:21 GMT
#795
On November 22 2017 04:03 Damdred wrote:
lol? Why you put a koshi post in a case against kel?


Also this boson
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 21 2017 19:29 GMT
#798
I think happa read on hf was a bit meh in hindsight and how he handled stan.

So yes id put hapa basically in the scummy category.

Bit yeah the way he approaches tw is extremely strange
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 21 2017 19:33 GMT
#801
Kel over reacting to the lynch like he is can be scummy especially since he was not part of it.

I look forward to his answers on that
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 21 2017 20:13 GMT
#813
if I die tonight please look at

Stan/happa/koshi

Ve

kel
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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November 21 2017 20:37 GMT
#819
gg Boson was fun playing with you.

Bos had scum reads on Kel, seemingly om hapa and was suspicious on VE.

Ve I need you to look at what bos said and comment please.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 22 2017 20:44 GMT
#910
I am a biy busy with thanksgiving prep but will catch up in just a little bit.

Rux post is interesting just at a glance but it feels halfway unnatural coming from him. It rraly is missing some of the spark/pep that goes along sith what he normally posts. It worries me a little especially him not paying attention to the stan/koshi thing.

I do tgink hapa is someone who I would vote today. But stan is also in that boat.

Also this whole thing about me being vig has probably need to stop. I thought I was clear when I said I havent had a gun in like two years, but my post to palmar was just a jest and trying to strong arm him i to voting stan.

But in either case back to prep work ill check i shortly
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 23 2017 16:54 GMT
#969
i should be back before deadline, i voted hapa until im back
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2017 18:06 GMT
#1077
Hey guys finally done shopping/thanksgiving and can play properly.

can you expound why ve filter is bad df?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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November 24 2017 19:09 GMT
#1081
but df if hapa checked one of stan and ve who would take their place?
Damdred
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November 24 2017 20:41 GMT
#1090
I think stan or df has to be mafia just the way the vote went d1.

With ve dead i halfway think hapa checked him over stan but ehhhh.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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November 24 2017 21:14 GMT
#1093
Any exposition on what you think happened with the votes stan?
Damdred
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15669 Posts
November 24 2017 21:18 GMT
#1095
so the vig is between, tumble, palmar, kel, chez.

I think its kel
Damdred
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15669 Posts
November 24 2017 21:19 GMT
#1096
blah i didnt mean to put palmar in that
Damdred
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15669 Posts
November 24 2017 21:20 GMT
#1098
palm should be koshi meh, but unimportant.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2017 21:21 GMT
#1099
On November 25 2017 06:20 ruXxar wrote:
I think you're right about kel.
His cocky attitude fits the memo.


So where does that leave us for scum in your opinion ruxxy
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2017 21:26 GMT
#1101
Thats unfortunate i hoped thatvwould make the game easier in that regard.
Damdred
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15669 Posts
November 24 2017 22:36 GMT
#1104
On November 25 2017 06:42 ruXxar wrote:
I keep thinking about the day 1 lynch. what mafia wouldnt grab the chance to get HF lynched.
I think after palmar jumped on, it was basically a risk free lynch for mafia.

From the votes day1/2 TW is the most likely scum on that wagon.


Can you tell me again what your read of hf/df and stan revolved around again.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 25 2017 15:50 GMT
#1109
so unless the mafia team has a vig which btw is possible, its tumble.

Hm, df and rux come talk to me.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 25 2017 18:48 GMT
#1112
Maybe rux has pocketed me, just seems so different from normal meh.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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November 25 2017 20:33 GMT
#1115
idc if you think im mafia, but i did sign uo to play this game meh.

So just talk to me about your reads kel
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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November 26 2017 03:18 GMT
#1127
im here df, today has been demltivated didnt want to spam the thread while I was waiting on people.

Ok so, I sort of am ok with voting stan off here but rux is bother me more today, I am a hypocrit and I am ok with that. But rux who loves to be in the middle of everything and lead activity has kinda fallen by thw wayside here, the d1 lynch om hf seemed so apathetic and halfhearted in retrospect.

Eh its just bothing me atm.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 26 2017 03:21 GMT
#1128
Also at this moment what I am struggling with the kills is either tumble is the vig or the scum team has a vig.

I am leanig towards thw scum team has a vig and ve blocked him n1. Tumble isnt to curious if hes vig who his shot killed and neither ve or oats seemed to be on his scum pile.

Also if the scum team has a vig it means palmar is not on that team (i think)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 26 2017 03:31 GMT
#1132
On November 26 2017 12:24 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2017 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Also at this moment what I am struggling with the kills is either tumble is the vig or the scum team has a vig.

I am leanig towards thw scum team has a vig and ve blocked him n1. Tumble isnt to curious if hes vig who his shot killed and neither ve or oats seemed to be on his scum pile.

Also if the scum team has a vig it means palmar is not on that team (i think)


I'm confident the vig shot or whatever it was is scum. Town vig would've claimed by now, especially someone like TW who's pretty suspicious. Unless town vig is just trolling.

I kinda agree about Ruxx. He has not seemed very interested in the game after D1. Unfortunately you can say the same thing about many people. Some people have apparently never cared about this game (or they're pretending to not care)


idk i asked rux a question and he never answered me so i feel a bit jilted atm.

There are currently 4-5 players id be happy lynching today. I really need to dilter dive ve and oats but havent gotten around to it.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 26 2017 03:37 GMT
#1133
On November 26 2017 12:28 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2017 12:18 Damdred wrote:
im here df, today has been demltivated didnt want to spam the thread while I was waiting on people.

Ok so, I sort of am ok with voting stan off here but rux is bother me more today, I am a hypocrit and I am ok with that. But rux who loves to be in the middle of everything and lead activity has kinda fallen by thw wayside here, the d1 lynch om hf seemed so apathetic and halfhearted in retrospect.

Eh its just bothing me atm.


I really just don't understand the HF lynch at all. It was 5-5 me and stan and all of a sudden big dick Palmar and VE come in and get everyone to switch off. Refuse to vote for Stan.

Only explanation I can think of is that scum pulled a cheeky play and decided that shenanigans onto HF was more productive for their end goal than just lynching me. I should really go back and read EoD1


The problem overall with the lynch is nobody really looked at everyones motivation for the lynch.

I was trying to aave you, (who i didnt even have a documented townread and never got called o it)

Conversion was the same

Boson and hapa are dead and town

You were another vote, thats 5.

Palmar and tumble are huge question marks, tw was suoer anti town with how he hung his vote waiting on the kast minute, kinda felt like his towny self taking responsibility for big moments tbh.

Palmat I still do not k ow about, was the case on hf better than the case on stan? I think maybe, Palmar however hasnt found acum by d3 so thats more concerning and doesnt care about game state so ehh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 26 2017 03:39 GMT
#1134
Like Conversion is still a super question mark in the game, he was a little edgey earlier but he really hasnt tried to solve much, kinda just exists. Also tries to buddy up to people a bit.

Rux refusing to move off stan could be distancing if he or stan flips and he really didnt try to save hf even though he townread him. A bit shady imo
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 26 2017 03:47 GMT
#1138
On November 26 2017 12:45 darthfoley wrote:
TW made some comment about Palmar near EoD1 that really felt odd. Palmar called him out on it and said that Tumblewood was like 70% mafia or something but Palmar has ignored him ever since. Super shady. Lemme find it


This is a good find if you can fi d it
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 26 2017 21:06 GMT
#1178
meh phone djed while i was waiting on brandi at the salon.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 26 2017 21:08 GMT
#1179
Sorry df I thought I would make it home in time, but yeah Palmar/Stan +1 makes the most sense.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 27 2017 15:33 GMT
#1190
Concersion is either a dallas or giants fan? (nobody is a redskins fan) We should lynch him.

But really, probably just lynching Palmar tommorow.

@Rux (and anyonr who wants to comment) you say its pretty ballsy to lead the hf lynch. But why? stan was never the lynch after hapa switched to hf, palmar doesnt have to pile on df he can do his owm thing and try to lynch hf because why not?

There is no risk especially considering how he got 0 attention even from the people tkw reading hf.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 27 2017 19:24 GMT
#1198
I should be here,

Rux why are you still hedging on df being town/scum from your perspective?
Damdred
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15669 Posts
November 27 2017 19:30 GMT
#1200
stealing my thunder df
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 27 2017 20:21 GMT
#1207
If Koshi is scum, his reactions to everything yesterday(how he reacted to df and mine interaction) was sort of good.

Hes still a lazy slob this game but thats qhat it is.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 27 2017 20:22 GMT
#1208
df who did you watch before today? just for the record
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 27 2017 20:53 GMT
#1228
gg
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 29 2017 20:31 GMT
#1299
gg scum team, espe ially df who claimed scum lol
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 29 2017 20:36 GMT
#1304
you almost had it conversion when df wouldnt tell you who he watched how he knew roles rip
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 29 2017 21:57 GMT
#1323
if it mskes you feel better i would of killed you to boson
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