[T] MS Paint-Off Mafia

On August 14 2017 21:36 Holyflare wrote:
So it's a bad plan to constantly make the towniest people in the game take vests? Why on earth is that ever bad? They can never kill (only once a game) the towniest players in the game if all winners take vests.

I'll just make another reminder that you've posted no real content again. Especially on the worst post of the game. Yet have the time to make impossibly wrong mechanic situations.

On August 06 2017 01:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Mechanics:
The challenge winner, if an honest contestant, may choose between the following items to be used the subsequent night phase:

On August 15 2017 00:11 Tumblewood wrote:

maybe you don't want or aren't able to post the analysis? dunno bout you but in my experience town have enough motivation to do it plenty of the time.
and then what would be the motivation for scum trying to look like town?

On August 15 2017 02:09 geript wrote:

Let me rephrase. Why can't they both be scum?

On August 15 2017 02:23 geript wrote:

I don't ever remember Rayn being a team controlling player; besides it's not like TW is sitting on Ryan's lap waiting for daddy to approve his posts and hit send. There's more reason to call TW scum than just "perfect knowledge."

On August 15 2017 02:46 geript wrote:

Why is Rayn Town? He's not even Rayn-lite currently. Drunk Rayn has more to say and more coherent thoughts. Town!Rayn does something. Town!Rayn doesn't forget that I'm the one that pushed Jealous to post instead of draw picture. Town!Rayn has reads:

This has nothing on anybody in a way that Town!Rayn thinks about the game.

On August 15 2017 03:14 ritoky wrote:
wait a second....there's people in this game that don't have geript as basically confirmed town? are they on crack?

On August 15 2017 03:19 ritoky wrote:


was he hugely involved in the angle shooting? i mostly remember geript spearheading it, if he was he gets half points.

On August 15 2017 03:23 ritoky wrote:
why is angle shooting NAI? every time i have seen people angle shoot really hard (myself included) it has come from town.

On August 15 2017 02:46 geript wrote:

Why is Rayn Town? He's not even Rayn-lite currently. Drunk Rayn has more to say and more coherent thoughts. Town!Rayn does something. Town!Rayn doesn't forget that I'm the one that pushed Jealous to post instead of draw picture. Town!Rayn has reads:

This has nothing on anybody in a way that Town!Rayn thinks about the game.

On August 14 2017 22:53 Conversion wrote:


do you mind me asking how you almost have a read on someone who only has two posts?

just curious

On August 15 2017 04:51 Holyflare wrote:
I'm pretty sure (can't be bothered to ask) that when someone gets the power up they can use it that same night otherwise it's stupid.

On August 15 2017 04:58 CopCake wrote:
The cake+tumblewood are scum together is the dumbest thing I have ever read in a mafia game.

On August 15 2017 05:06 Damdred wrote:


This is a horrible response.

If you dont believe what you say, what is even the point of making the link at this juncture?

On August 15 2017 05:07 Holyflare wrote:


Why do you think it's more likely than the other thing when you just said that TW's interaction with me looked like TW tming that rayn was town? That means my theory was correct?

On August 15 2017 05:15 CopCake wrote:



You weren't my top mafia read but now you are for lying.

I said Damred was the mafia more likely.

On August 09 2017 10:16 CopCake wrote:
Town circle with damdred

On August 15 2017 01:48 CopCake wrote:
I am gonna throw my two cent on rayn.

::: THIS IS A SERIOUS POST :::

I have played with him several times (Obviously) and I know he is a super skilled player. Nevertheless I have also seen him being misslynched for things like this (Not being active and so, or lazy reads) I have lynched him myself because of that. That is why I suggest to give him a pass and decide on him later or after the 24 hrs at least when he comes back. Remember last game we misslynched someone because of lack of participation and wasnt deffending himself.

I can also see mafia trying to take advantage of this heated read kinda (Damdred) who hasnt done shit except for like two posts? Last game he came and gave reads straight and here he is acting like Geript (a woman who kicks a cat and then screams and hides when the chaos starts)

On August 15 2017 05:42 CopCake wrote:


I read your nickname as hopeless ridee and since koshi is already yoshi I made you a duck coz horses are ugly.

On August 15 2017 05:43 CopCake wrote:
Either way, anyone who have played with me knows I missremember stuff sometimes

On August 15 2017 05:53 Tumblewood wrote:

you realize the judges' selections have nothing to do with the paintings at all, right? you could not draw anything and still get selected.

On August 15 2017 05:58 Holyflare wrote:


so your top mafia read is TW because he talks to me like I'm town

I also push tw like crazy and you're sheeping dem reads

you also support my setup speculation of everyone taking vests

but you vote jealous who you've said nothing about?

On August 15 2017 06:05 Holyflare wrote:


You know, if I get the power up then mafia have to 100% use their 1 time RB to get rid of me tonight. Who else do you think they're going to shoot?

On August 15 2017 06:05 Holyflare wrote:


You know, if I get the power up then mafia have to 100% use their 1 time RB to get rid of me tonight. Who else do you think they're going to shoot?

On August 15 2017 06:07 Holyflare wrote:



just look at this glowing recommendation

On August 15 2017 06:12 Tumblewood wrote:

i didn't even see that post. and it seems to me that post asks to get a vest instead of a shot? ff was declining a powerup because he didn't think he'd be able to use it well, you just seem to be declining a shot because you think mafia are terrified of you

On August 15 2017 06:17 Holyflare wrote:


If they win they get an extra one I think but it's one use otherwise. That is why my plan of everyone going vests is amazing.

One time RB and always vote the towniest person in the game to get the power up.

For example if you vote me today:

I get a vest tonight and they rb and kill me. Mafia now have 0 RBs.

from the wording in the op you have to use the vest that night so it kinda sucks but if you pick correctly you're always saving the towniest person in the game from being NKd and don't actually lose anything if mafia gets picked because it basically becomes an all vanilla game at that point which is awesome

the dream

if someone dies with a vest on after someone else with a vest has died then you know one of the winners is definitely mafia too, basically a cop check eventually

If the challenge winner is a saboteur, he/she will receive a 1-time roleblock that may be used at any phase, day or night. All honest contestant actions may be roleblocked. The contestant will not be notified.

On August 15 2017 06:18 Holyflare wrote:


you're disagreeing that mafia generally NKs me N1 or N2 in almost every game ever?

On August 15 2017 06:24 Holyflare wrote:





that's already factored into the plan???

On August 15 2017 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
Like here's the TL;DR of the plan:

1) Always pick the towniest person.
2) Always make them pick vests NEVER ANYTHING ELSE.
3) If two people with vests ever die then mafia is contained in one of the winners.
4) Otherwise you are basically in an all vanilla game with the towniest people not able to ever die on a day.

On August 15 2017 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
I swear to god I read that they got 1 rb to start with???

On August 15 2017 06:49 CopCake wrote:
Just tinfoil for a moment that jelaous is mafia and he forever gets all the power roles. Gg

On August 15 2017 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
tw/rayn/cleanuponeofthetrashlikerelsoronegu

On August 15 2017 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
You have reasons for anything on that list 1derboy?

On August 15 2017 07:39 Tumblewood wrote:

and more importantly why would that be your metric

On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:

So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.

Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof

On August 15 2017 07:45 CopCake wrote:
In a way I think Mafia are waiting to town kill themselves then they come like "Omg why werent you careful"

Also I think Onegu posted once and Rels zero.

onegu was mad for playing a game with having to draw and blamed rayn for inviting him to this set up

On August 15 2017 07:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Judges i strongly suggest, based on current events, that you include 1derboy in your nominations for lynch.


About the best I can do

On August 15 2017 07:51 CopCake wrote:


This one is the one I am refering to

On August 15 2017 07:45 CopCake wrote:
In a way I think Mafia are waiting to town kill themselves then they come like "Omg why werent you careful"

Also I think Onegu posted once and Rels zero.

onegu was mad for playing a game with having to draw and blamed rayn for inviting him to this set up

On August 15 2017 08:01 CopCake wrote:
Being inactive doesnt equals mafia.

One of then could be tho but you shouldnt lynch people for being inactive.

I pointed out what I do remember or Onegu and that was it because I forgot he existed until I read the "Onegu and Rels are lurkers" and forced myself to remember

On August 15 2017 08:13 CopCake wrote:
/cake for prize

On August 15 2017 06:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think I'm voting holyflare

On August 15 2017 08:33 CopCake wrote:
It feels so sad when someone says "I am talking alone" and you are there just in front.

On August 15 2017 00:59 Damdred wrote:
I do 100% think rayn is scum and should be the lynch though

On August 15 2017 04:53 Damdred wrote:
I am unsure what I really think of you right now geript.

I think you are just probably town and I'm being a bit off right now, but I'm not sold on it just yet.

Like I should have a much stronger read on ritoky here as well but he's doing one or two things tag are worrying me slightly.

As for actual scum reads, I am lacking in that department.

On August 15 2017 08:48 Damdred wrote:


There are three scum at least, maybe more (?). If I have one scum read and am unsure of the others I am in fact lacking in the scum read department.

If I said I don't have any scum reads you would have a legitimate case.

On August 15 2017 09:09 Damdred wrote:


I think tw is interesting, I am leaning town currently on him.

For the mechanics I guess sorta? I am am for vests for the winners though

On August 15 2017 09:12 CopCake wrote:


I just noticed he skipped me on his list 😂😂😂😂😂 I am not important, hello darkness my old friend

On August 15 2017 09:13 Conversion wrote:
hopeless can you actually give solid reads instead of asking people for theirs? "lol afk lazy scum" isn't much to go off of

also explain your vote too since you seem to be keen on asking fecalfeast on why he's voting for x

On August 15 2017 09:19 CopCake wrote:


So you think rayn is town? You think HF is town?

On August 15 2017 09:27 CopCake wrote:
But I asked You if you think they are town or not, not TW

On August 15 2017 09:38 Conversion wrote:
okay lol red thumbs down for trying to call you out

+1 to FF's suggestion on putting hopeless in lynch pool

I'm going to bed~ night

On August 15 2017 09:54 Conversion wrote:


you asked him about his vote

you voted for jealous without explaining your vote

why shouldn't you be held to the same standard you want to hold FF

?

what gives

On August 15 2017 10:28 Damdred wrote:
Why is flip flopping so summit to you hopeless?

On August 15 2017 10:38 CopCake wrote:


What happened to you?

You became pretty angry from being a clock and now you are fucking emo?

On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.

On August 15 2017 10:56 ritoky wrote:
i am gonna click a filter and read it. someone give me a name of which filter i should click. not geript or hopeless, i made my mind up on those two for now.

On August 15 2017 11:07 ritoky wrote:


copcake - scum lean for inconsistency, her tw read (if i even understand it right) being sheeped from hf who partially sheeped it from me but i am scum, and her obsession with the clock aka omgus

hf - nothing yet. town hf lynches mafia and dies/eats shots, town mafia pushes forward his agenda consistently, town hf doesn't give much shits about outside opinions so long as things head his direction. mafia hf aggressively pockets players, lynches townies and stays alive, and has sudden shifts in his agenda post-nks to suit his new agenda (or sometimes he does this super cool slight pivot thing that i wish i was capable of). he hasn't had the opportunity to blossom yet.

jealous - ???? he's funny, but proclaims self dunce which makes it feel like an act and since his geript boner died he has felt pretty preipheral, pretty hard meh.

so basically i reject your categories.

On August 15 2017 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this rayn bull shit

On August 15 2017 22:05 Holyflare wrote:
I'm about 60% sure I'm getting a gun and I will shoot rayn ot conversion at this point in time.

On August 15 2017 22:14 Damdred wrote:
I am not so sure about conversion, his fuck you attitude about being shot instead of lynched is interesting...

Not really conductive to you know living

On August 15 2017 22:43 Holyflare wrote:


I don't have a clue what you're saying. I thought the game was broken because we could keep the vests all game but you have to use them straight away. I also thought mafia had to pick within the 3 winners.

Now I know the actual setup then having everyone pick vests all the time is still the optimal setup.

On August 15 2017 22:51 Holyflare wrote:
Like I just did an entire monologue a couple of pages back figuring out the game?

I'm not crazy, right?

Right???

On August 15 2017 23:08 Holyflare wrote:


I said he was looking a bit paranoid because of his lack of motivation post out of the blue. I implied in a qt. He's not going to say he's concerned with how he looks in a thread after all.

On August 15 2017 23:12 Holyflare wrote:


I see what rayn is saying btw.

Rayn calls out 2 post hopeless.
Conversion calls out rayn on this point.
Rayn asks why he didn't call anyone else out.
Conversion says because he's only read two list posts and links hopeless one.
Rayn says some nonsense about how conversion is scum because hopeless' post hadn't happened yet.

Thing is it did happen.

On August 15 2017 23:14 Holyflare wrote:


?

If I say ritoky is paranoid with how he looks it's from experience being in a mafia qt with him previously. It's a meta read. Ritoky is still null now because it's a minor point in the grand scheme of things.

On August 15 2017 23:18 Conversion wrote:


I suck at playing proactively, so there you go. I'm not a good player. I play how I feel like I need to play

?? what benefit does this post even have

On August 15 2017 23:18 Conversion wrote:
rayn I'm waiting for your amazing read on hopeless

On August 14 2017 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I almost have a read on Hopelesswonder but i don't. I most likely will though when he posts more.

On August 15 2017 23:34 Damdred wrote:
Honestly I know it's bad.

But if the lynch isn't something like onegu/rels/rayn I'll be a bit annoyed at the judges.

I think besides those three and hopeless (rekt) I have a pretty sturdy reason to read people town. Maybe tw has fallen do me though, probably, maybe.

On August 15 2017 23:42 CopCake wrote:


Town. Rayn would have pushed on the weakest/scummiest town if he was mafia.

On August 15 2017 23:49 Conversion wrote:


why

On August 15 2017 23:54 CopCake wrote:


Were you a general town read or you were suspected?

On August 15 2017 23:56 CopCake wrote:

Actually lynch me so we can talk normally.

This will also teach people like HF, Damnred and the people who doesnt know me to be careful with their fucking reads and dont rely on their own meta and consider me now.

I am fucking pissed now.

On August 15 2017 23:58 CopCake wrote:



And I asked people not give you time because I knew that? Because I didnt want a misslynch? Even if people said I was mafia for deffending I went and said GIVE RAYN time because I know how valuable you are as town and I dont want a misslynch.

On August 16 2017 00:00 CopCake wrote:


Because it would give me more inside.

On August 16 2017 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am not sure why she would make such a contradiction as mafia.

On August 16 2017 00:03 Holyflare wrote:
We weren't mafia together???

On August 16 2017 00:05 Holyflare wrote:
Like when the fuck did mafia people get so thin skinned? I hate this shit. It makes me not want to play. I don't want to baby a person because they can't handle a basic accusatory question or interrogation. That's literally the fucking game. Grow up people. Stop shining.

On August 16 2017 00:07 CopCake wrote:


Here

He called you mafia and you were mafia together

And How am I supposed to know about your games with rayn? I am talking of the times he has been mafia with me on VS.

On August 16 2017 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck... Tumblewood, are you mafia?

On August 16 2017 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I just realised he opposed HF in the same way when they were mafia together last time.

On August 16 2017 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am waiting for HF's amazing meta analysis.

On August 16 2017 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:

And you dont get to facepalm when you cant make any coherent posts.

On August 16 2017 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:

wait? what do you mean by cherrypicking the fuck out some filters?

On August 16 2017 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless who do you actually think is mafia and why? Besides me.

On August 16 2017 01:35 Tumblewood wrote:
thanks euros for the 20 pages while i was sleeping
i read half of them and i think cake is the clearest town. i'm also moving 1der into weak town.
i appreciate rayn but i'm waffling on him hard. not necessarily defending himself in a townie or scummy way, just very actively.
damdred seems like town, but that said i don't know if i've ever played with scum!damdred.

On August 16 2017 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am almost going to vote for HF just to say "i told you so" after this game

On August 16 2017 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Dont mind, the quaestion is what you're gonna do after that?

On August 16 2017 02:14 Conversion wrote:
like what should we do with him, considering his 0 activity

On August 16 2017 02:20 Conversion wrote:


there's no modkills in this game though

On August 16 2017 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It was really hard to see why that was big pile of reads.

On August 16 2017 02:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm in tumbleweeds filter and i don't think he's mafia. Not enough to call him solid town but u know

I think rayns martyring is scummy outside anything else that's been said about him.

I still think HF is town.

I dislike jealous' all paint style but I guess he's towny enough.

Has copcake done anything since being nominated? I can't remember anything of substance I will look at her filter.

I think I remember agreeing with damdred that conversion has made himself look more towny. After a cursory look at his filter i am satisfied

I need scumreads someone tell me a filter to dive

On August 16 2017 02:55 Fecalfeast wrote:

Fecalfeast is lock town. Jealous was all paint before i wrote that post. I said I think damdred said something about conversion and that i agreed with him. I can read copcakes filter.

1derboy is very abrasive and I prefer smooth people

On August 16 2017 03:09 Holyflare wrote:


Zzzz

On August 16 2017 03:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Just so this doesn't turn into a thing. I dislike that all of jealous' post prior to my.post were in picture format is that better for the pedants? I said he's towny because of his reads posts and his recap post which I didnt4mention but I assumednit would be obvious fuck fixing my fat thumb typos

On August 16 2017 03:29 Holyflare wrote:


Quotes plz.

On August 16 2017 03:27 Fecalfeast wrote:

It took me longer than that to write my post because like i said I'm at work.

On August 16 2017 02:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
I dislike jealous' all paint style but I guess he's towny enough.

On August 16 2017 03:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
I don't like it because you can't ctrl+f, copy and paste, or tl search it. I said he's towny.

If you don't believe my post took 12 mins or whatever why would I post that it's all been in paint?

On August 15 2017 13:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
##vote holyflate

On August 16 2017 03:52 Fecalfeast wrote:

What does my vote for my top townread to get a power have to do with jealous or my dislike of paint posts?

On August 16 2017 08:38 CopCake wrote:
I would also say that my lynch will be Hopeless because he said that he as to read me town because the judges said so, then when I found out the judges pick who to lynch it makes sense he decided to say "Cake is town because of judges" since he doesnt want to make then angry.

On August 16 2017 09:37 geript wrote:
@Hopeless why are you voting Rayn?

On August 16 2017 11:41 CopCake wrote:


arent you russian? I mean your... location says so.

On August 17 2017 00:19 CopCake wrote:
Tbh hopeless asked me several random things like why is he a duck or why you are fish

On August 17 2017 04:34 Conversion wrote:


nope. honestly him and FF are both looking bad. at least FF quoted himself saying he was town

On August 17 2017 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
We have 50 minutes to lynch one of them and people are still voting confirmed town?

On August 17 2017 05:10 Conversion wrote:


?? why did you switch to FF?

On August 17 2017 11:03 Jealous wrote:
I just had the thought that HF pretty much has to be town. Follow me here:

HF gets the power role and claims he got the vig shot. If the judges didn't in fact give him the vig shot, would they not show this by not nominating him for the next PR cycle and then putting him in the scum bucket after that? It would be the clearest indication that HF is lying and deceiving everyone.

The only fault with this logic that I can see is that HF could be drawing attention to himself for having the vig shot intentionally, so that judges can award it to someone else who would potentially be free from scrutiny I guess? That would be an interesting play as well; but one that could only be done from a town persective imo.

Am I completely off base here?

On August 17 2017 11:08 geript wrote:
Like you just gotta accept that HF is a liar regardless of his alignment. You have to read him on what he's trying to do; like what his goal this game is. Who he pushes is kinda relevant, but it's also what he lets go of.

On August 17 2017 11:29 Damdred wrote:

Well I they're scum together they have to be 100% be ok with bussing at that point.

Or well have the vote coordination down to the second. Either are plausible it's probably better not to make super connective teams just yet.

Also think it's much less likely that hopeless/rels/tw are the scum together.

Like I just don't see a super bus going on that early when two If he town options are up.

Like I really think the wayvrels went about eod is indicative of a scum mindset. TW or hopeless could be scum hi never together (for me at least). Then just need to figure out the last one for my poe.

On August 17 2017 11:43 CopCake wrote:


You are calling me scum with Tw?

Ok, pls tell me, "how" we are linked together and tell me how our interactions made you have that idea.

Tell me how I am fucking scum and tell me how is TW scum.

On August 17 2017 11:48 CopCake wrote:


Ok, I have a question and just noticed this

if Hopeless and FF both have 5 votes... why is FF lynched? was it with a coin?

On August 17 2017 11:52 CopCake wrote:


Are you Damdred? why are you answering his questions? In the quick topic they delegate you to be his secretary?

I mean Damdred voted for you as mafia.

On August 17 2017 11:49 Damdred wrote:
That's not tinfoiling that's thinking through all of thebdidderent scenarios

On August 17 2017 11:56 geript wrote:
But go on Copcake, please talk about how Town!TW can read 12 pages of filter in 3 minutes and come to the fact that FF must be Town and he only has 1 post of Hopeless he likes. I'll wait.

On August 17 2017 12:14 CopCake wrote:


I am defending myself, not him.

On August 17 2017 12:24 geript wrote:

I'm not sure on Damdred. He definitely can be scum, but he also can be town.

On August 17 2017 12:27 Jealous wrote:
Nevermind, paint got too complicated once I realized all of the contingencies and the limitations of TL's textbox. Let's look at it from the judge's perspective.



1. T+V. Let's assume this as the baseline, as this is what I imagine the judges would hypothetically be going for.

It would only make sense for T+V to claim in this scenario. The vig shot could almost never be used as a bargaining chip to appeal when up for lynch, because that would indicate that the judges had chosen someone to give it to then changed their minds about whether that person is townie or not and put them in the lynch pile. Wouldn't make sense.

2. S+V This is the worst-case scenario, the one that I overlooked in the previous analysis.

If S+V claims, then that would just be a bad/dumb move. It would be much more effective to save it and use it if suspicion ever DID fall on them from the judges and they thought they were going to lose the lynch vote, or if the game gets to the point where the judges are no longer present.

3. T-V. This would mean that HF is intentionally misleading everyone in the game, EXCEPT the judges who already know that he doesn't have the V.

This would only make sense if he was trying to put all the attention on himself, so that the judges could give the shot to someone else who would be under less scrutiny. This would also likely force scum to use a RB on him, as he currently has vest and with the shot in tow, it is a bad position for scum. However, I think that this is still not a very good play, as it would assume that the judges don't scumread him for the move, and it would assume that when the vig shot is actually given out there is likely to be a legitimacy argument which would be counter-productive. I don't think this possibility makes much sense. If the judges did scumread him for the move it would look like this:

4. S-V This would also mean that HF is intentionally misleading everyone in the game, EXCEPT the judges who already know that he doesn't have the V, and of course excluding his scummates.

This wouldn't make much sense to do because then the judges could just indicate that it is false by not including HF in the "Top 3" vote in the next cycle, effectively showing that "we don't care if this guy gets a vest or not because he is lying." That will show to everyone to stop listening to HF, and then he will be in the lynch pile the next cycle.



In short, I don't find any situation in which it makes sense for scum HF to claim; I also think that the move for town HF to claim without actually having it would be too much of a gamble. QED, HF is town and has the shot.

It was pretty hard for me to explain myself throughout all of this. If you disagree with my conclusions, please share your counterarguments because I could easily have just confused myself while thinking of the possibilities and interactions.

On August 17 2017 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
I'm going to shoot rels.

On August 17 2017 22:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not to even mention when HF calls a shot on me EVERYTHING Jealous does is like "well why are you doing this HF????". THE DUDE IS TRYING TO SHOOT HIS TOP SCUMREAD!

On August 17 2017 23:45 CopCake wrote:


Tmi?

On August 17 2017 23:49 CopCake wrote:


Nope, I also dont know what is NAI

On August 17 2017 23:51 CopCake wrote:


What? How?

On August 17 2017 23:59 CopCake wrote:
But scum shouldnt have access, where it is implied they might know?

On August 17 2017 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can you explain that in quotes hopeless?

On August 06 2017 01:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Additionally, the judges may secretly decide on their ‘favorite’ once per game. This decision must be unanimous, and take place before Day 4. The favorite will receive a vig shot that may be used during any phase, to be resolved at the end of the phase.

On August 18 2017 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How did tw know what judges were doing in anyones argument?

On August 18 2017 00:11 CopCake wrote:
What makes you think Scum knows the judges quicktopic?

On August 18 2017 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am confused. Who argued so?

On August 18 2017 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I didnt see the "just a snarky comment" post. I thought you were arguing something.

On August 18 2017 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No i thought you were saying "someone is arguing in a way that if tw is mafia they would have seen the qt".

On August 18 2017 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:

NO I DIDNT FIND THAT ARGUMENT AND I THOUGHT YOU HAD SEEN ONE SO I ASKED YOU WHO MADE THE ARGUMENT.

Fuyck uyou are stupid.

On August 18 2017 00:33 CopCake wrote:


I want everyone to look at this post and ask Hopeless which argument has a latent assuption than scum knew what the judges were doing?

On August 17 2017 23:30 CopCake wrote:

That makes him more town than mafia then unless he wanted to pocket rayn

On August 18 2017 00:49 Damdred wrote:
Yeah I'm just going to ignore this part of the gAme for now, devolved into pointlessness.

Ever got any more reads cooked up?

On August 18 2017 00:54 Damdred wrote:
At you just going to be a dick to everyone in the thread hopeless? Especially after the way you reacted to someone being a dick to you? I have been calm, courteous and respectful in our interactions and I expect for that to be returned.

On August 18 2017 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have no fucking clue what hopeless is saying:

did you see an argument where someone said someone saw the judge qt?
no, go fuck yourself rayn i am gonna lynch you
i am sorry, i thought you said so...
no i didn't, btw i did!

On August 18 2017 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Again, what are you saying. The argument here is Holyflare asking if tumblewood had TMI or not (if something happened before or after). Cake answers, before. The argument ends.

Why do you make this post:

Noone ever said so. YOU brought that up. Then you said "that has not happened". Then you try to throw shit on people who originally asked you where YOU saw it happened (as you implied so), on people who never believed or saw that in the first place.

So again, what are you trying to do here?

On August 18 2017 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wait explain this to me:

You made an "argument"
I questioned you for it
Instead of answering it you called your own argument bullshit
And then i am MAFIA FOR QUESTIONING YOU!?!?!?

On August 18 2017 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Me too, apparently it was bullshit in the first place and apparently i am notw mafia for questioning bullshit.