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On August 15 2017 03:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 03:06 Tumblewood wrote:On August 15 2017 02:57 Holyflare wrote:On August 15 2017 02:05 geript wrote:On August 15 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote: No I'm getting a read on tw. If he's mafia rayn is town. Why can't they both share an alignment? Because tw is defending rayn and even digging to get meta to try and prove me wrong. If tw is mafia then this only comes from the perspective that he knows rayn is town and so theoretically it's simple to find games where he's done this before.Coupled with the fact he's doing all of this but his actual read on rayn is "null" at best it's dodgy as fuck to be doing unless he has the standpoint of him being right and me wrong (yes, tmi). Then you look at the actual quotes he linked me and they're trash and don't align with what he's saying at all but he thinks they do. It's like he briefly skimmed a game for the point to prove himself right (because of the tmi on rayn) and then posted them because it vaguely said what he was getting at. Basically lynch all Tumblewoods. are you fucking kidding me you basically put the onus on me to find meta to disprove yours. so i did. and now you are calling that scummy? absolutely 100% but I'm your mafia so that's my job though innit? this is so confusing it might have to be town. i'm pretty sure something is flying over my head here but ???
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On August 15 2017 00:34 Damdred wrote: Geript might be scum though, that read is a bit flimsy though. Time to explain this
On August 15 2017 03:29 Damdred wrote: Geript will never be town to me ritoky, our trust is broken. You're the one who stood me up. You could've had that good Geript D you always wanted
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On August 15 2017 03:34 Holyflare wrote: Who is mafia though jealous?
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On August 15 2017 03:27 Damdred wrote: I guess everyone will read me as scum, it's a bit disheartening but oh well.
Coocake/hf
Would be my top two judges atm What do you mean by top 2 judges
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On August 15 2017 03:33 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 03:19 ritoky wrote:On August 15 2017 03:15 Hopeless1der wrote:On August 15 2017 03:14 ritoky wrote: wait a second....there's people in this game that don't have geript as basically confirmed town? are they on crack? Why isn't rayn part of that circle? was he hugely involved in the angle shooting? i mostly remember geript spearheading it, if he was he gets half points.
Uhh
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wait i need to read rayn's wall brb
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when you're done reading it you can read my posts on why it makes him likely mafia then
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On August 14 2017 22:55 Holyflare wrote: I also think your reads don't make any sense at all. You effectively say this is mafia tw but don't call him mafia.
You say you don't like his conclusion that it makes cake nothing but your read on cake is also NOTHING. You liked his questioning and read it and have no conclusion on her for it but then say it's bad that someone else doesn't have a conclusion on it. Then you think a baddy mafia ditches all his reads and calls everyone blindly town just after?
No.
It just doesn't add up rayn.
On August 14 2017 23:00 Holyflare wrote: Nobody else is here. I haven't twisted a single word you have said at all.
Why is Tumblewood's lack of conclusion on cake bad when you have no conclusion on cake yourself?
I mean it's hilarious to get annoyed at someone trying to play mafia and determine other people's alignments. Why bother playing if answering basic questions antagonises you this much?
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On August 15 2017 02:46 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 02:27 Hopeless1der wrote:On August 15 2017 02:23 geript wrote:On August 15 2017 02:13 Hopeless1der wrote:On August 15 2017 02:09 geript wrote:On August 15 2017 02:07 Tumblewood wrote:On August 15 2017 02:05 geript wrote:On August 15 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote: No I'm getting a read on tw. If he's mafia rayn is town. Why can't they both share an alignment? duh, did u see how much information i have? waay too much information Let me rephrase. Why can't they both be scum? Well obviously Rayn would never let TW defend him with such a terrible meta defense kappa /s? I don't ever remember Rayn being a team controlling player; besides it's not like TW is sitting on Ryan's lap waiting for daddy to approve his posts and hit send. There's more reason to call TW scum than just "perfect knowledge." I'm not subscribed to the idea that one's alignment affects the other's, just in case it wasn't clear, but TW is scum and rayn is town to me. Why is Rayn Town? He's not even Rayn-lite currently. Drunk Rayn has more to say and more coherent thoughts. Town!Rayn does something. Town!Rayn doesn't forget that I'm the one that pushed Jealous to post instead of draw picture. Town!Rayn has reads: Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Initially you said so we'd have one person to lynch. Which I think is stupid. Vote count analysis is the basic mafia game. No i didn't, i said "the idea is the judges will nominate 2 ppl and the one they give the power so we have one dude noone is gonna vote." which is 2 lynch wagons instead of 3. It's not stupid, in fact it is so OP Artanis decided to remove it from the game.... That in itself should probably tell you something about if it is stupid or not... Because me not giving reads doesn't make me anything. It is that fucking simple. I have until tomorrow night to decide who i think is mafia. Your read on ritoky is also garbage because the Jealous thing was obviously at least a half joke and "he got mad over being a clock in someone's picture" is a terrible reason to call anyone mafia. In fact ritoky's, what to call it... un-tryhardness probably makes him town. geript can also be town for now since he tried to break the game. Cake always thinks i am mafia when she is town so i don't see a reason why she wouldn't do that as mafia. It's actually quite annoying especially when the reasoning is something she didn't even properly read in the first place. It's like Xatalos annoying. For the record there are probably 0 games where Cake has read the OP as any alignment so there goes that dumbtell theory, i don't even know what the Jealous one is. I agree with whoever said Jealous should post properly. I don't care if he is posting reads in the pictures, posting reads doesn't make people town, because almost any mafia nowadays is not stupid enough to not post reads or do anything and get caught by it. At least i can't figure out motivation of post from a picture in a same way than i can from written text, and i would like him to play properly. Then there is Tumblewood who started questioning Cake (which i liked) and then ended up with "well i didn't even think that makes you anything" which i hated. Into "let's be town everyone" post. I have seen Tumblewood do the same sort of questioning before and it didn't end like that. rn i am too lazy and sleepy to dig up more into that, gotta eat and sleep first. I almost have a read on Hopelesswonder but i don't. I most likely will though when he posts more. You can be anything and i tend to not really care unless you do something scummy. You will probably die early anyways in case you are town. But you won't bully me into doing something i don't want to do, I will talk to you when you have something i don't find badly reasoned. Everyone else has not done anything i can make something of. This has nothing on anybody in a way that Town!Rayn thinks about the game.
I'm not sure I agree about you're opinion of his big post there. His notes on cake's meta, his conclusion that he has until tomorrow to make reads, his read on TW dont seem like they're something that are either Scum!Rayn or Town!Rayn specific and are just fair thoughts for rayn to have about the game regardless of alignment.
At any rate, I think that in general the fact that Artanis felt the need to intervene gives you and rayn a pass for today.
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On August 15 2017 04:23 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 03:33 Jealous wrote:On August 15 2017 03:19 ritoky wrote:On August 15 2017 03:15 Hopeless1der wrote:On August 15 2017 03:14 ritoky wrote: wait a second....there's people in this game that don't have geript as basically confirmed town? are they on crack? Why isn't rayn part of that circle? was he hugely involved in the angle shooting? i mostly remember geript spearheading it, if he was he gets half points. Uhh + Show Spoiler +
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rayn's (lack of a) read on cake is mildly concerning, but his logic that TW should have a read isnt hypocritical to me since TW entered into a discussion/argument and exited with nothing to show for it.
For example, TW's entire time arguing with you about rayn was reading like he knew something he shouldnt and I think hes scum for it. There was nothing close to that with his interaction with cake.
If I was going to draw alignment conclusion based on interactions so far, I'd say
cake and TW are scum together
is more likely than
TW <OR> rayn are scum (and the other is town)
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On August 14 2017 22:53 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Initially you said so we'd have one person to lynch. Which I think is stupid. Vote count analysis is the basic mafia game. No i didn't, i said "the idea is the judges will nominate 2 ppl and the one they give the power so we have one dude noone is gonna vote." which is 2 lynch wagons instead of 3. It's not stupid, in fact it is so OP Artanis decided to remove it from the game.... That in itself should probably tell you something about if it is stupid or not... Because me not giving reads doesn't make me anything. It is that fucking simple. I have until tomorrow night to decide who i think is mafia. Your read on ritoky is also garbage because the Jealous thing was obviously at least a half joke and "he got mad over being a clock in someone's picture" is a terrible reason to call anyone mafia. In fact ritoky's, what to call it... un-tryhardness probably makes him town. geript can also be town for now since he tried to break the game. Cake always thinks i am mafia when she is town so i don't see a reason why she wouldn't do that as mafia. It's actually quite annoying especially when the reasoning is something she didn't even properly read in the first place. It's like Xatalos annoying. For the record there are probably 0 games where Cake has read the OP as any alignment so there goes that dumbtell theory, i don't even know what the Jealous one is. I agree with whoever said Jealous should post properly. I don't care if he is posting reads in the pictures, posting reads doesn't make people town, because almost any mafia nowadays is not stupid enough to not post reads or do anything and get caught by it. At least i can't figure out motivation of post from a picture in a same way than i can from written text, and i would like him to play properly. Then there is Tumblewood who started questioning Cake (which i liked) and then ended up with "well i didn't even think that makes you anything" which i hated. Into "let's be town everyone" post. I have seen Tumblewood do the same sort of questioning before and it didn't end like that. rn i am too lazy and sleepy to dig up more into that, gotta eat and sleep first. I almost have a read on Hopelesswonder but i don't. I most likely will though when he posts more.
You can be anything and i tend to not really care unless you do something scummy. You will probably die early anyways in case you are town. But you won't bully me into doing something i don't want to do, I will talk to you when you have something i don't find badly reasoned. Everyone else has not done anything i can make something of. do you mind me asking how you almost have a read on someone who only has two posts?just curious
btw this is super nitpicky, but I found the phrasing of this weird since at the time, 1/2 posts was literally my /in to the game.
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On August 15 2017 04:39 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 22:53 Conversion wrote:On August 14 2017 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Initially you said so we'd have one person to lynch. Which I think is stupid. Vote count analysis is the basic mafia game. No i didn't, i said "the idea is the judges will nominate 2 ppl and the one they give the power so we have one dude noone is gonna vote." which is 2 lynch wagons instead of 3. It's not stupid, in fact it is so OP Artanis decided to remove it from the game.... That in itself should probably tell you something about if it is stupid or not... Because me not giving reads doesn't make me anything. It is that fucking simple. I have until tomorrow night to decide who i think is mafia. Your read on ritoky is also garbage because the Jealous thing was obviously at least a half joke and "he got mad over being a clock in someone's picture" is a terrible reason to call anyone mafia. In fact ritoky's, what to call it... un-tryhardness probably makes him town. geript can also be town for now since he tried to break the game. Cake always thinks i am mafia when she is town so i don't see a reason why she wouldn't do that as mafia. It's actually quite annoying especially when the reasoning is something she didn't even properly read in the first place. It's like Xatalos annoying. For the record there are probably 0 games where Cake has read the OP as any alignment so there goes that dumbtell theory, i don't even know what the Jealous one is. I agree with whoever said Jealous should post properly. I don't care if he is posting reads in the pictures, posting reads doesn't make people town, because almost any mafia nowadays is not stupid enough to not post reads or do anything and get caught by it. At least i can't figure out motivation of post from a picture in a same way than i can from written text, and i would like him to play properly. Then there is Tumblewood who started questioning Cake (which i liked) and then ended up with "well i didn't even think that makes you anything" which i hated. Into "let's be town everyone" post. I have seen Tumblewood do the same sort of questioning before and it didn't end like that. rn i am too lazy and sleepy to dig up more into that, gotta eat and sleep first. I almost have a read on Hopelesswonder but i don't. I most likely will though when he posts more.
You can be anything and i tend to not really care unless you do something scummy. You will probably die early anyways in case you are town. But you won't bully me into doing something i don't want to do, I will talk to you when you have something i don't find badly reasoned. Everyone else has not done anything i can make something of. do you mind me asking how you almost have a read on someone who only has two posts?just curious btw this is super nitpicky, but I found the phrasing of this weird since at the time, 1/2 posts was literally my /in to the game.
I make weirdly phrased statements a lot. I was just curious because there's always this meta shit flying over my head that I feel like I'm missing (like Rels being AFK D1 last game) so I was curious
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On August 15 2017 04:37 Hopeless1der wrote: @HF
rayn's (lack of a) read on cake is mildly concerning, but his logic that TW should have a read isnt hypocritical to me since TW entered into a discussion/argument and exited with nothing to show for it.
For example, TW's entire time arguing with you about rayn was reading like he knew something he shouldnt and I think hes scum for it. There was nothing close to that with his interaction with cake.
If I was going to draw alignment conclusion based on interactions so far, I'd say
cake and TW are scum together
is more likely than
TW <OR> rayn are scum (and the other is town)
yeahhhhh boiiii
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So minor setup speculation:
How can we get cop checks off? It seems like whoever wins the contests each day is best off just taking a vest and calling it a day, right? Is this a weird version of rock-paper-scissors?
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I'm pretty sure (can't be bothered to ask) that when someone gets the power up they can use it that same night otherwise it's stupid.
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On August 15 2017 04:51 Holyflare wrote: I'm pretty sure (can't be bothered to ask) that when someone gets the power up they can use it that same night otherwise it's stupid. Yeah that was my assumption, I was just thinking about the risk vs reward of going for the check.
We get a rotating blue every day that has afaik zero downside to openly claiming at the start of each cycle.
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I am unsure what I really think of you right now geript.
I think you are just probably town and I'm being a bit off right now, but I'm not sold on it just yet.
Like I should have a much stronger read on ritoky here as well but he's doing one or two things tag are worrying me slightly.
As for actual scum reads, I am lacking in that department.
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On August 15 2017 04:51 Holyflare wrote: I'm pretty sure (can't be bothered to ask) that when someone gets the power up they can use it that same night otherwise it's stupid.
reading the set-up seems to suggest otherwise-- perhaps we should ask? I was under the impression that "honest" contestants get the power only on subsequent night phases, whereas saboteurs can use the roleblock any time they want from what I read
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On August 15 2017 04:41 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 04:39 Hopeless1der wrote:On August 14 2017 22:53 Conversion wrote:On August 14 2017 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Initially you said so we'd have one person to lynch. Which I think is stupid. Vote count analysis is the basic mafia game. No i didn't, i said "the idea is the judges will nominate 2 ppl and the one they give the power so we have one dude noone is gonna vote." which is 2 lynch wagons instead of 3. It's not stupid, in fact it is so OP Artanis decided to remove it from the game.... That in itself should probably tell you something about if it is stupid or not... Because me not giving reads doesn't make me anything. It is that fucking simple. I have until tomorrow night to decide who i think is mafia. Your read on ritoky is also garbage because the Jealous thing was obviously at least a half joke and "he got mad over being a clock in someone's picture" is a terrible reason to call anyone mafia. In fact ritoky's, what to call it... un-tryhardness probably makes him town. geript can also be town for now since he tried to break the game. Cake always thinks i am mafia when she is town so i don't see a reason why she wouldn't do that as mafia. It's actually quite annoying especially when the reasoning is something she didn't even properly read in the first place. It's like Xatalos annoying. For the record there are probably 0 games where Cake has read the OP as any alignment so there goes that dumbtell theory, i don't even know what the Jealous one is. I agree with whoever said Jealous should post properly. I don't care if he is posting reads in the pictures, posting reads doesn't make people town, because almost any mafia nowadays is not stupid enough to not post reads or do anything and get caught by it. At least i can't figure out motivation of post from a picture in a same way than i can from written text, and i would like him to play properly. Then there is Tumblewood who started questioning Cake (which i liked) and then ended up with "well i didn't even think that makes you anything" which i hated. Into "let's be town everyone" post. I have seen Tumblewood do the same sort of questioning before and it didn't end like that. rn i am too lazy and sleepy to dig up more into that, gotta eat and sleep first. I almost have a read on Hopelesswonder but i don't. I most likely will though when he posts more.
You can be anything and i tend to not really care unless you do something scummy. You will probably die early anyways in case you are town. But you won't bully me into doing something i don't want to do, I will talk to you when you have something i don't find badly reasoned. Everyone else has not done anything i can make something of. do you mind me asking how you almost have a read on someone who only has two posts?just curious btw this is super nitpicky, but I found the phrasing of this weird since at the time, 1/2 posts was literally my /in to the game. I make weirdly phrased statements a lot. I was just curious because there's always this meta shit flying over my head that I feel like I'm missing (like Rels being AFK D1 last game) so I was curious
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