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On July 21 2017 05:42 Tumblewood wrote:
anyone wanna shenanny koshi with me?
tbf they're both 99% scum
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On July 21 2017 05:46 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2017 05:41 sicklucker wrote:On July 21 2017 00:01 Skynx wrote:sicklucker should be the lynch today as his scumhunting this game is a total farce. On July 13 2017 21:17 sicklucker wrote:
I voted ruxxar because he had the best chance to be scum and Im not sure if Ill have much time or when even the deadline is. I took your advice TAKE THE BANANA We should most of the time just straightup ignore his D1 but here he admits a sheepvote on Ruxxar without having much clue about anyone else. On July 14 2017 04:35 sicklucker wrote:On July 13 2017 22:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 21:37 sicklucker wrote:On July 13 2017 21:33 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 20:50 Koshi wrote:On July 13 2017 20:41 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 20:26 Koshi wrote:
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I don't know what ruxxar is doing this game. So basically I agree with the idea behind your case.
He made a couple extremely dumb observations this game. I don't understand what he is doing as I don't see him solving the game while playing. Last game he scumread me while I had a 10 page filter and correctly read him while nobody else did, this game he very quickly townread both townleaders for scumhunting...
Filterlenght and sheer enthusiasm holds me back but he is on the watch list. Koshi, you are way too serious this game. You look nothing like your last game. Your tone is completely different. Very somber and low energy. protip: Different does not equal mafia. Why am I somber? 1) your opening post basically declares "I'm going to play this game solo" Which sets up the expectation of a low interactivity game from you. Having that excuse in your back to take pressure of your non-interactivity is great from a mafia agenda point of view. 2) You are somber by the fact that you don't have the jesty/non-chalant way of talking as you did last game. Example of posts you made as town that represent such a tone: On June 14 2017 16:52 Koshi wrote:
Hmm I am going to call fefe and TW town.
TW for thinking fefe is hilariously suspicious and fefe for believing that.
2 townreads.
1 more than rayn.
ggwp. On June 14 2017 16:49 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 16:46 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 16:35 Koshi wrote:
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This emoticon is made by mafia over town 9/10 times. It is proven. I concede :/ See. Now you are mafia 81/100 times, 9/100 times mafia pretending to be town, 9/100 times town pretending to be mafia, and only 1% chance to be town being town. Can't disagree with math. Especially my math. Koshi had this planned before the game even started he talked about it in the obs qt and post game , last game.... Still mafia. man me and ruxxar came to every same conclusion last game right or wrong. Now everyone I think is mafia he thinks is town and vice versa. kill with fire Later on a reverse mind meld/meta comes along the ONLY real reason of why he's scumreading Ruxxar, some other stuff in same page but nothing that can be used as an argument. On July 16 2017 05:16 sicklucker wrote:
noted that ec cant even remember his own reads. he calls me town at last deadline then less then 24 hours later im "forgotten" and scum Another lazy reason to scumread someone. He just looks tryhard with this, emp felt genuine at the time even tho i was scumreading him aswell. On July 18 2017 04:29 sicklucker wrote:On July 18 2017 04:28 Vivax wrote:
I'm just tempted to sheep dead rayn onto emc along with geript for now since I still miss more than half of the game. Anyway, off to delve while I vote emc. was ryan that sure emc was mafia? Damn that would be 3 strong towns On July 18 2017 04:32 sicklucker wrote:On July 16 2017 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, then EC is mafia. hum ryan was also pretty high on koshi being mafia and ruxxar being town Trying to solidify emperor being mafia with rayn sr on him which was based on wrong reasons: + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:
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I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play.
Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them.
Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game.
I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain  I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Do you have anything to show from before deadline? Or are those posts before deadline? On July 16 2017 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, then EC is mafia. Rayn thought that was right which I thought the same but those were post EoD, significantly harming the value of my case. I think sl says this before Rels points out my mistake but i cba looking, he's just trying too hard to create reasons here imo. On July 18 2017 04:47 sicklucker wrote:
I just dont think koshi fought hard enough to be town here. thats all im saying Koshi main wagon. He has no opinion. On July 18 2017 04:19 sicklucker wrote:
Ruxxars still my first choice his game is so different. wild yes rels but not the samr Him trying to support emperor scumread and soft sr on Koshi curiously comes after this. If Ruxxar his first choice, why try to create a wagon on someone else? When Koshi is main wagon why not try to propose a Ruxxar lynch? His vote is on Rels of all people at this point, after claim was rescinded. He has 1 main sr, two other sr's but votes no one. He just can't pick sides at this point. 22:20, there are 5 votes on emp. 5 fucking votes. He, as town, have options here. He can jump emperor train, why not he has reasons to support it right? He can propose a ruxxar lynch, its his main sr. 22:35 he votes Tumblewood... like wtf? On July 18 2017 05:29 sicklucker wrote:
No I kind of like his tw push. its kind of townie hes going after him over ec this to support it... I don't even know who is he talking about here, "He" is Koshi? Koshi bussing TW makes more sense than bussing EC? Either way how does that make TW scum????? Like literally, nothing recent on Tumble AND he sheeps his sr onto him. He posts a list of townies, claiming everyone else lynchable, like very under the table, pushes a TW sr... On July 18 2017 05:45 sicklucker wrote:
LETS KILL RUXXARRRRR 0.o Then back on Ruxxar. Easiest mislynch ever. This is not a towny vote pattern guys. On July 18 2017 05:56 sicklucker wrote:
tumble is reacting kind of good here. plz killz ruxxars with me On July 18 2017 07:00 sicklucker wrote:On July 18 2017 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
the one where sl is up for voting koshi but then jumps to sheep to koshi's target but then as soon as that wagon looks like it's set he instant derails it to ruxxar? so as mafia why do I switch off tumble who I already switched to over ruxxar?I thought ruxxar was mafia all game man he was my number 1 target I said so earlier your overthinking this man. game throwflare. I would have voted ruxxar over anyone There we go instantly brings up the fact that Ruxxar was his n1 target. Bolded is a classic mafia agenda, just swaying from the fact that he has no basis at all voting for tumble to begin with. On July 18 2017 09:37 sicklucker wrote:
i always wanted to lynch ruxxar... . It didnt become an option untill the very end and I was very happy to jump on it. Me townreading tumbleweed after had nothing to do with my vote change. your so dense I can go on with his bs on me but I'm gona cap it off with this. No options he says. What was his options? Emp wagon, he scumreads, doesn't vote, doesn't push for Ruxxar lynch either. Koshi wagon, he scumreads, doesn't vote, doesn't push for Ruxxar lynch either. In what case you do all this as town? He doesn't want to lynch his scumreads but doesn't case his main scumread either but defends himself like this was his plan all along. Just doesn't exist as town. Lynch please, I 110% guarantee you he will flip scum. your posts are so garbage you start by saying I sheeped ruxxar when I said he was most likely to be scum. I said maybe hes not the best lynch but I was very happy to lynch him. just like you just said I never wanted vivax lynch. No he was not my first choice he was just my second after you. Not going on right now I know your scum with vivax zZzzZ Just when i thought i was falling asleep, they pull me back in.
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On July 21 2017 18:39 Koshi wrote:
Catch mafia. Get lenched.
Play mafia meta. Get lynched.
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Koshi and one of Skynx / TW is also what I think is the answer
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good that it was easy too, I was drinking the whole weekend. Gonna put some work tomorrow before being probably shot. ATM Skynx is my guess for the last scum, we'll see if that changes after reread
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And this was a work of art.
On July 20 2017 02:32 Rels wrote:Like, Koshi this game when pushed by HF has the underhand. He's hurt by the pressure and tries to make the push lose credibility, sometimes by saying HF is mafia siding, sometimes by saying HF is scum. + Show Spoiler +On July 17 2017 04:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:21 Holyflare wrote:
why has your playstyle miraculously deviated from your plan koshi? This is a pretty horrible post btw. Trying to incriminate me for posting and playing. While the not playing and posting is the reason you scumread me. On July 17 2017 07:58 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. gj HF pushing the idea I am mafia with TW. Probably not mafia, but always mafia siding. On July 17 2017 17:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 16:03 Holyflare wrote:
And you say I'm mafia siding because you can't call me mafia :D :D Nha I am saying you are mafia siding because you are probably not mafia. Just bad. On July 17 2017 17:31 Koshi wrote:
You are probably really just mafia. Getting +1 ml today and then auto the thread tomorrow. Killing both Damdred and geript during the night and then D5 push the last ml for the win riding the cred from the TW lynch while everybody already forgot you lynched me.
It's a good plan. Kuddos.
Holyflare is mafia. Remember this on D5. On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content. I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less. + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. On July 17 2017 19:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 19:35 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 19:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content. I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less. + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. I never said anything about a list. I'm saying you're praising skynx who is voting off your tw wagon and not voting a scum read of yours while saying rels is mafia who is pushing a scum read of yours and looking at posts of ec, your scum read. And then giving absolutely 0 content as to why any of these reads exist. Repeatedly. If only I made a post pointing out him voting Rux while he said TW and Koshi are bussing each other. And then whined about it some more in a following post. In which I probably forgot to quote his vote. If only... Yes, I saw you did that but you never called him mafia like you did for rels. Once more I don't understand your point here. I'll categorize it under: "Shitty attempts trying to discredit Koshi" Koshi last game when pushed by HF has the upperhand. He isn't hurt by the pressure and uses HF posts to gauge his alignment. + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2017 19:13 Koshi wrote:
Now I am in this limbo in which I don't know if HF is trolling or mafia or bad.
Palmar probably trolling. On June 14 2017 19:14 Koshi wrote:
But it is pretty mafia that HF is so convinced I am 3p though. He kinda disregarded the fact I could be mafia playing 3P a bit too easily imo.
We need to remember this fine piece of reasoning. On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. On June 14 2017 20:32 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 20:24 Holyflare wrote:On June 14 2017 20:17 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 20:13 Holyflare wrote:
But I am town though. I'm gonna destroy all anti-towns. Why am I anti-town? Started all depressing. My push made you realise you didn't start with your town meta. Got cased super hard by yourself and me about not following meta. You've done nothing to push game forward. Absolutely no 투혼. 3P/mafia koshi. I was tired yesterday. I actually completely forgot the game. Yes. Nha, I am explaining it to people. See how they react. 2 people saw it but didn't write it down. Lies. Once again I am top tier pushing the game forward. Like kushmaster once said. The main reason people play mafia is to read about themselves. I am enjoying this and I have no problem with being lynched anymore. But it won't happen this game cuz I want to play. On June 14 2017 20:49 Koshi wrote:
Either HF is town and bold because he thinks is right.
or
he is mafia and super amused that his bullshit is being gobbled up this easily.
I am going to run with option 1 because rayn hasn't done anything yet. And potential other mafia hasn't typed enough. On June 14 2017 21:24 Koshi wrote:I already answered that Palmar. If he is mafia: He saw I opened with something odd for myself. Called me out and went to bed knowing he could blow it up in the morning, securing fake activity. Saw rayn doing something odd so he also called that out. That's 2 townleaders he is not working with but against in the thread. If both are town he is putting the entire thread in disarray and making it horrible for those 2 and others to find mafia. And on top of that everybody is gobbling up this Koshi is 3p story so it is working absolutely brilliantly. Nothing is being done. ggwp. Now... I think he is more likely town. And I am on the lookout for the mafias. On June 14 2017 23:43 Koshi wrote:
Town
TW town for calling fefe hilariously suspicious.
Fefe town for being ok with that and believing it.
Disformation town for not jumping on my wagon while thinking my opening was potential mafia. Also serious bait was hilarious, big laughs were had.
Beentheredonethat is more likely overeager “wrong” town than active pushing a wrong agenda mafia. And his aggressiveness continues over multiple pages, he is now quite confirmed town.
Damdred is town because his list post is very close to what I could think. Just like his read on me it comes from town and not mafia.
Darthfoley town because pushed the game forward with his Xatalos/Ruxxar posts. And overall is playing really well. Overall playing style he can do it as mafia but I don’t think he is doing it here as mafia.
Town with minus points.
Skynx started out a bit out of place. But picked it up very well. Sassy answer on btdt and loads of action.
Vivax made a pretty good read on Annul. But I don’t like his playstyle atm
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Holyflare his vote on me is incorrect. I don’t like how his gameplan feels set up.
On June 14 2017 23:48 Koshi wrote:
I also guess I should up HF a bit more. It looks similar. But it's totally different. In the last game he's leading. If this game he's suffering.
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On July 24 2017 13:42 Damdred wrote:
The sheer apathy of the D1 lynch I think (RS being on neither wagon I believe) and Koshi just sitting on Vayne, personally, I think points even heavier that Skynx would be more likely town than scum. Especially with the Rayn kill that night.
Dunno why it's a point for or against Skynx.
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On July 24 2017 20:57 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 16:49 Rels wrote:On July 24 2017 13:42 Damdred wrote:
The sheer apathy of the D1 lynch I think (RS being on neither wagon I believe) and Koshi just sitting on Vayne, personally, I think points even heavier that Skynx would be more likely town than scum. Especially with the Rayn kill that night.
Dunno why it's a point for or against Skynx. We know the skynx wagon is mostly town (at this point it's almost pure). If sky is scum we have to agree that they were ok with letting him die. Rsoultin didn't try to strengthen the wagon but was secure enough in scums position that she went away from both wagons.
gonna have to reread exactly what happened. But your reasonning seems pretty flimsy at best. You were in the last game right ? We had a 7-6 votes town-scum vote D1, so scum managed to not get lynched in a very close vote; yet no scum voted for the main wagon to save their roleblocker. The 7 people wagon was pure. Voting to save your partner is hard, and you shouldn't assume a vote logic so simple makes Skynx town.
This is not even taking into account that the vote this game was a lot less scary in this current game from what I remember. Not one second I thought Skynx was gonna get lynched over VA D1. Maybe I'm biaised 'cause VA was my vote though.
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On July 25 2017 00:23 Skynx wrote:
I mean im not gona put much effort into this deadgame, just trying to save you guys a ml.
Game was only dead this weekend because scum decided to give up + it was weekend. If you're town I don't see why you're giving up.
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This is a few hours after the start of the game, and rsoul's second post.
On July 13 2017 15:18 rsoultin wrote:
-bounces-
can we lynch an ec? or a va, but that's just cuz fuuuun...of course it would be more fun if he got to mope first, so ec
also -flings hearts at everyone, especially an hf!-
damdy gets a day pass for ruxxy...i'm actually kinda flattered he thinks so highly of me lol ><
i think geript may get a day pass too just for telling joni to stop lynching for dumbass ^^ we'll go with a wait and see on tw for #reasons
rsoul's real first push being on EC is weird if they're partner. But that's not all. Just after, starting with this post, rsoul and EC have a ~40 posts conversation, at the beginning of the game, where it looks like EC is really trying to gauge rsoul. Doesn't feel like a scum vs scum AT ALL. I think I'm never considering EC as scum now that I've read that.
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On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote:
I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good
such a bad post. Such a bad reason to townread Koshi. Koshi says that all the time and then never do it. SL you should know that.
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On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far. The whole point of him on Ruxxar is that he didn't scumread EC for: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:09 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 06:58 emperorchampion wrote:On July 13 2017 06:56 ruXxar wrote:
Distracting town with off-topic discussion.
I see you are pulling out the tricks early. What's off topic about scum hunting ? How's your raynometer feeling? Wait, wait wait. Your first sentence was referring to HF context post as if I was accusing HF of off topic discussion. BUT. You second sentence is referring to Rayn as if he was the suspect target. I'm getting conflicting messaging here. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you pushing this EC thing further, she literally just answered you by talking about something completely different than what you asked. I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it. Anyway thats not the main point: If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i never said your case on EC wasn't townie, it was the best post in the thread. But you just threw it in the trash for no reason, and that makes you mafia.
Tell me this:
1) Why cannot, let's say Damdred, sickluckr and VA be mafia, as you are totally fine with geript dying by "poe"?
2) If they can, why are you actually totally fine with geript dying? That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar. On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread?? rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion. On geript: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 07:18 geript wrote:On July 13 2017 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
try to tell why geript If I figure it out, I'll explain then. try something Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 07:28 geript wrote:On July 13 2017 07:25 Holyflare wrote:On July 13 2017 07:22 geript wrote:
Hey HF. Find the worst post in the thread up to this point and quote it. On July 13 2017 06:10 rsoultin wrote:
Lexy kicked me out for hosty reasons pffft. Leave me gifts for morning?
♡s a ruxxy pupil want to vomit blood On July 13 2017 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think you're trying a bit too hard for the state of the game but i dont know what it means. trying to start scum hunting but struggles + rest of filter he just rolled scum so this "new strat" he's trying is mafia fatigue till he gets in the swing of it and feels like cases/playing again Not the post I wanted you to pick up on so I could like you more...  this is also a terrible post. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also that's the worst reason ever to read holyflare town.
I have a good case on geript, do you? This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed. I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me". ##Vote: raynpelikoneet
meh. Such a good post. It's Skynx' first post and I have no idea if he does good post like that as scum.
OK he has done it before as scum. 1 2 3
In addition this post looks an awful lot like the one I really liked EON1:
On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Summary
Very town: mahg
Townlean: Exo, Calix
Not read at all: darth
Bad but not thoroughly read:Foreman
Nullish cuz neither town nor scum but bad: Rels
Scum: TT, NU
I pushed mahg earlier, his respons I liked. His lists later on I liked. He's not overly spammy. He's the most town imo.
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
Calix is quite null actually this was hard to decide. His early game has been bad a he should know better by now after 3 games here that him vs NU just results in them filling filters and nothing else. He needs more thorough read for sure. I'm mostly townreading him on tone which I'm kinda confident after playing with him often in past few months, which i know is bad but its the best i can do atm.
Darth had that conspiracy about his opinion on me as a reason Rels and some others scumread, which doesn't mean anything imo but need to read him later on. I just got the feeling he's not been bad overall.
I don't like Foreman's over-aggressive tone. He didn't get much going against him but why so aggressive then? He most definitely needs a re-read, I think he's been flying under the radar.
Read above for opinions on Rels.
Read cases in filter for opinions on NU and TT.
It looks like this:
On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this.
This second post is from this current game, the first is from his last scum game. I really liked this post from Skynx, I think I even townread him for it at one point, I thought it was very logical and well structured so a lot more likely to come from town. But all in all Skynx can play a very good scum game. A few great posts is not enough to make him town. On the contrary maybe, him having great posts at the beginning then declining starting D2 might indicate he's scum.
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On July 25 2017 04:01 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 03:19 Rels wrote:On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote:
I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good such a bad post. Such a bad reason to townread Koshi. Koshi says that all the time and then never do it. SL you should know that. no he does do it. it just never lasts for more then a cycle or too
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On July 25 2017 04:05 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 04:01 sicklucker wrote:On July 25 2017 03:19 Rels wrote:On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote:
I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good such a bad post. Such a bad reason to townread Koshi. Koshi says that all the time and then never do it. SL you should know that. no he does do it. it just never lasts for more then a cycle or too [source required]
And even if he does that "sometimes as town for the first cycle". Which I don't think he ever did. And I want you to prove he ever did.
BUT even taking this hypothesis to be true for one minute. WHY would that make Koshi town just because he doesn't post ? Why couldn't he do that as scum this game ? Why is it "neutral to good" ?
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On July 25 2017 00:19 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
my First and quite important train of thought is why was va lynched over skyx if they are both town? The only none fliped person voting skynx is tumbleweed. now I think hes town. So this means 3 mafia voted va over skyx or were off wagon.
Why wouldnt anyone as mafia hammer skynx over va there? Skynx is a much harder person to lynch then va. Va was always getting lynched in this game. Its basically a free lynch for mafia or two lynches for one.
The only conclusion I can think of is he is infact mafia. Lets call this reason 1
Theres way more evidence in the vote count to back this up
[*] VayneAuthority (6) - raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, sicklucker, emperorchampion, Rels, Koshi
[*] Skynx (5) - [green] geript, ruXxar, Damdred, VayneAuthority, Tumblewood [green]
Notice how koshi is also the hammer vote... Yes skynx could have voted himself which is why the vote never seemed close to anyone. But you have to remember he was just afk... scum and town alike can be afk. Luckily scumlord koshi was around to save him.
Lets say skyx is town. that means the last mafia is ec or rels. Again they would have voted skynx over va if there smart... and they were the last votes so the most likely to change as well. Lets call this reason 2
Both points suggest someones mafia but both together is more then a coincidence
Why do you assume TW is green? He was the last vote on deadline switching on me.
this is actually an extremely good remark. SL you're describing a situation where scum is more likely to vote Skynx in your POV. TW votes Skynx with a weird timing. But for some reason your conclusion ios that SKynx is 100% scum ?
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