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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On June 21 2017 19:31 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 18:34 disformation wrote:looking back at fefe: last post: On June 21 2017 08:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I went into VA's filter almost looking for reasons to scumread him and now that I made half a case about his read progression on grack and skynx...
I kinda think he's just low effort town.. The way he comes across seems so casual and while like 80% of his posts are setup talk or useless he seems to be looking at the game from a low information point of view and hasn't pushed any sort of agenda (scum or town) that I can see. town. fairly sure. Why is that townish? "I made a half-assed attempt to do something and my result is a not-really-committed townread" How is that townish? *sigh* why would scum do that? scum would just finish up the half finished case to look like having scumreads and done stuff. realizing half way through a case that you think the guy might actually be town is far more likely to come from town. aaaand the read isnt even as shitty as you make it out to be. "i cant see any agenda in va's filter" is a pretty strong statement.
Yeah I actually think this is a valid point. Like, here's how you should look at it.
On the really basic level, the first level, Scum aren't coming from the same mindset of hunting scum that Town come from. Which means it's hard for Scum to have good reads and feel confident pushing them. This means that Town might formulate a read and make a case, but Scum would worry about appearing scummy or something, and therefore try to leave open a line of retreat. See, if you're town, and you think someone is scum, even if it's unpopular to think that, you won't give it up. You have a belief; you have evidence; you're gonna go for it. Scum, though, they're not trying to lynch this guy they think is scum. Instead, theyr'e trying to not get lynched. so maybe theyw ant to build their cases and reads with a line of retreat so they can change their minds if it's unpopular.
So on a naive level you would expect Town to be decisive and Scum to be waffly.
But if you go down into the second level, it turns out taht sometimes as Town you're confused. And to a certain extent, town doesn't actually CARE about looking town. I mean, obvs you don't wanna get lynched but you're also highly concerned with finding scum. Whereas scum, their ONLY concern is about looking town. And if "looking town" means decisively posting aggressive cases, Scum will try to ape this as best they can. Town will only do this when it makes sense for them.
So, we might see someone posting waffle-like uncertain reads. This could mean "ah hah, this is scum planning to pull out of these reads if they aren't popular" and that's possible. But because this really stands out, and is obviously scummy, it's like... the kind of thing that scum tries (but not always succeeds) to avoid doing. And town to a certain extent doesn't actually give a shit. Town wants to lynch properly.
so "I did half-assed work and got a half-assed townread" is, you know, it's not something i'm gonna go giving people tons of townreads on that, but there's not a HUGE motivation for scum to do that because 1) a half-assed townread won't get anyone lynched and 2) it kinda stands out as "bad" in a sense. And I'm not saying "too bad to be scum" but you can see how a town has in some ways more chances of saying this than a scum, capisce
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
ugh putting out useless guru wisdom that doesn't actually contribute is too much effort i'm going to bed
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Can people at least look at what i have said about Rels and comment on it?
1) His explanation on the Eversince comment doesn't match up with the earlier explanation on the Eversince comment. In fact i don't even believe it matches the original comment.
2) His vote on annul is based on very bad reasoning and the way he went on with it on D1 in very surface level thinking which is not really typical for him.
3) All of his scumreads are based on very surface level reasoning and there is basically no thought behind them (see for example the read on me, earlier read on Chezitwo, read on Grack, read on sicklucker, N1 or so read on Skynx and the read on Ruxxar).
4) The way he has pushed his scumreads is... well he hasn't, it's non-existent.
The complete lack of ANY people to even COMMENT on the case makes me think even more i am right here.
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Gotta leave for work now. Be back about 2 hrs before deadline.
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On June 21 2017 19:31 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 18:34 disformation wrote:looking back at fefe: last post: On June 21 2017 08:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I went into VA's filter almost looking for reasons to scumread him and now that I made half a case about his read progression on grack and skynx...
I kinda think he's just low effort town.. The way he comes across seems so casual and while like 80% of his posts are setup talk or useless he seems to be looking at the game from a low information point of view and hasn't pushed any sort of agenda (scum or town) that I can see. town. fairly sure. Why is that townish? "I made a half-assed attempt to do something and my result is a not-really-committed townread" How is that townish? *sigh* why would scum do that? scum would just finish up the half finished case to look like having scumreads and done stuff. realizing half way through a case that you think the guy might actually be town is far more likely to come from town. aaaand the read isnt even as shitty as you make it out to be. "i cant see any agenda in va's filter" is a pretty strong statement.
A super strong statement contradicted by "I kinda think". And I super disagree with you regarding townreading "hey I almost did something". That's just bad.
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On June 21 2017 19:43 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 19:31 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 18:34 disformation wrote:looking back at fefe: last post: On June 21 2017 08:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I went into VA's filter almost looking for reasons to scumread him and now that I made half a case about his read progression on grack and skynx...
I kinda think he's just low effort town.. The way he comes across seems so casual and while like 80% of his posts are setup talk or useless he seems to be looking at the game from a low information point of view and hasn't pushed any sort of agenda (scum or town) that I can see. town. fairly sure. Why is that townish? "I made a half-assed attempt to do something and my result is a not-really-committed townread" How is that townish? *sigh* why would scum do that? scum would just finish up the half finished case to look like having scumreads and done stuff. realizing half way through a case that you think the guy might actually be town is far more likely to come from town. aaaand the read isnt even as shitty as you make it out to be. "i cant see any agenda in va's filter" is a pretty strong statement. A super strong statement contradicted by "I kinda think". And I super disagree with you regarding townreading "hey I almost did something". That's just bad.
no. you are just bad for not realizing that is a super obv town post.
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On June 21 2017 19:33 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 19:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Skynx is also super hard disagreeing with VA
so I think we got something here. I don't think both are scum together. so t/t or t/s and I'd say the scum is on Skynx' side here
yes you have a huge pile on unflipped associations...
you know just go back to ignoring me please. you're completely ignoring what I said about skynx/grack and I'm sick of you commenting with dumbfuck oneliners on things where people put actual work in
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On June 21 2017 19:44 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 19:43 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 19:31 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 18:34 disformation wrote:looking back at fefe: last post: On June 21 2017 08:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I went into VA's filter almost looking for reasons to scumread him and now that I made half a case about his read progression on grack and skynx...
I kinda think he's just low effort town.. The way he comes across seems so casual and while like 80% of his posts are setup talk or useless he seems to be looking at the game from a low information point of view and hasn't pushed any sort of agenda (scum or town) that I can see. town. fairly sure. Why is that townish? "I made a half-assed attempt to do something and my result is a not-really-committed townread" How is that townish? *sigh* why would scum do that? scum would just finish up the half finished case to look like having scumreads and done stuff. realizing half way through a case that you think the guy might actually be town is far more likely to come from town. aaaand the read isnt even as shitty as you make it out to be. "i cant see any agenda in va's filter" is a pretty strong statement. A super strong statement contradicted by "I kinda think". And I super disagree with you regarding townreading "hey I almost did something". That's just bad. no. you are just bad for not realizing that is a super obv town post.
piss off, 24-filters-I-have-done-nothing-disformation
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On June 21 2017 19:29 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 19:28 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 18:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 18:28 disformation wrote:
well. to help you guys out:
ruxxar:
+ pushing ppl to vote his scumreads
+ baiting around to make ppl do stuff on otherwise dead days (d2) (this one is big for me)
+ tone
small nitpicks:
- not sure if him spamming his grack list is padding his filter.
- sometimes his baiting looks like testing the waters or him seeing what could stick.
overall i think he is way more town than nearly everyone else. - pushed Annul mislynch - pushed Grack like a madman esp. his "everyone who pushed Grack gets a townread" makes it feel like he's super happy if everyone just auto's on grack today which makes me think Grack is town well a lot of ppl pushed/voted annul and i think ruxxar happens to look better than a lot of other ppl on that wagon. and since we dont know what grack will flip yet, the other part is unflipped association. Like, I can see Grack being scum. Granted. But the way Ruxxar is pushing Grack is weirding me out, this "auto on Grack guys and you all get a townread" thing is just... yeah dunno, it's weirding me out.
aight. fair enough.
question is what to do now.
i guess the best way of action for town is to lynch the guy that is most likely to flip scum.
so if you think rels or sl have a better chance, feel free to switch.
if you would like to lynch someone else, feel free to write a case.
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On June 21 2017 19:45 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 19:29 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 19:28 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 18:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 18:28 disformation wrote:
well. to help you guys out:
ruxxar:
+ pushing ppl to vote his scumreads
+ baiting around to make ppl do stuff on otherwise dead days (d2) (this one is big for me)
+ tone
small nitpicks:
- not sure if him spamming his grack list is padding his filter.
- sometimes his baiting looks like testing the waters or him seeing what could stick.
overall i think he is way more town than nearly everyone else. - pushed Annul mislynch - pushed Grack like a madman esp. his "everyone who pushed Grack gets a townread" makes it feel like he's super happy if everyone just auto's on grack today which makes me think Grack is town well a lot of ppl pushed/voted annul and i think ruxxar happens to look better than a lot of other ppl on that wagon. and since we dont know what grack will flip yet, the other part is unflipped association. Like, I can see Grack being scum. Granted. But the way Ruxxar is pushing Grack is weirding me out, this "auto on Grack guys and you all get a townread" thing is just... yeah dunno, it's weirding me out. aight. fair enough. question is what to do now. i guess the best way of action for town is to lynch the guy that is most likely to flip scum. so if you think rels or sl have a better chance, feel free to switch.if you would like to lynch someone else, feel free to write a case.
I have clearly said we should lynch into Grack/Skynx
not sure why you keep ignoring that
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On June 21 2017 19:45 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 19:44 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 19:43 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 19:31 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 18:34 disformation wrote:looking back at fefe: last post: On June 21 2017 08:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I went into VA's filter almost looking for reasons to scumread him and now that I made half a case about his read progression on grack and skynx...
I kinda think he's just low effort town.. The way he comes across seems so casual and while like 80% of his posts are setup talk or useless he seems to be looking at the game from a low information point of view and hasn't pushed any sort of agenda (scum or town) that I can see. town. fairly sure. Why is that townish? "I made a half-assed attempt to do something and my result is a not-really-committed townread" How is that townish? *sigh* why would scum do that? scum would just finish up the half finished case to look like having scumreads and done stuff. realizing half way through a case that you think the guy might actually be town is far more likely to come from town. aaaand the read isnt even as shitty as you make it out to be. "i cant see any agenda in va's filter" is a pretty strong statement. A super strong statement contradicted by "I kinda think". And I super disagree with you regarding townreading "hey I almost did something". That's just bad. no. you are just bad for not realizing that is a super obv town post. piss off, 24-filters-I-have-done-nothing-disformation
i really really really dislike ppl telling me i did nothing, when i put more effort and time into the game then the rest of the whole fucking game combined.
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On June 21 2017 19:46 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 19:45 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 19:29 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 19:28 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 18:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 18:28 disformation wrote:
well. to help you guys out:
ruxxar:
+ pushing ppl to vote his scumreads
+ baiting around to make ppl do stuff on otherwise dead days (d2) (this one is big for me)
+ tone
small nitpicks:
- not sure if him spamming his grack list is padding his filter.
- sometimes his baiting looks like testing the waters or him seeing what could stick.
overall i think he is way more town than nearly everyone else. - pushed Annul mislynch - pushed Grack like a madman esp. his "everyone who pushed Grack gets a townread" makes it feel like he's super happy if everyone just auto's on grack today which makes me think Grack is town well a lot of ppl pushed/voted annul and i think ruxxar happens to look better than a lot of other ppl on that wagon. and since we dont know what grack will flip yet, the other part is unflipped association. Like, I can see Grack being scum. Granted. But the way Ruxxar is pushing Grack is weirding me out, this "auto on Grack guys and you all get a townread" thing is just... yeah dunno, it's weirding me out. aight. fair enough. question is what to do now. i guess the best way of action for town is to lynch the guy that is most likely to flip scum. so if you think rels or sl have a better chance, feel free to switch.if you would like to lynch someone else, feel free to write a case. I have clearly said we should lynch into Grack/Skynx not sure why you keep ignoring that
then what is the point of posting that?
distancing from the lynch result? setting up ruxxar?
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On June 21 2017 19:47 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 19:45 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 19:44 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 19:43 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 19:31 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 18:34 disformation wrote:looking back at fefe: last post: On June 21 2017 08:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I went into VA's filter almost looking for reasons to scumread him and now that I made half a case about his read progression on grack and skynx...
I kinda think he's just low effort town.. The way he comes across seems so casual and while like 80% of his posts are setup talk or useless he seems to be looking at the game from a low information point of view and hasn't pushed any sort of agenda (scum or town) that I can see. town. fairly sure. Why is that townish? "I made a half-assed attempt to do something and my result is a not-really-committed townread" How is that townish? *sigh* why would scum do that? scum would just finish up the half finished case to look like having scumreads and done stuff. realizing half way through a case that you think the guy might actually be town is far more likely to come from town. aaaand the read isnt even as shitty as you make it out to be. "i cant see any agenda in va's filter" is a pretty strong statement. A super strong statement contradicted by "I kinda think". And I super disagree with you regarding townreading "hey I almost did something". That's just bad. no. you are just bad for not realizing that is a super obv town post. piss off, 24-filters-I-have-done-nothing-disformation i really really really dislike ppl telling me i did nothing, when i put more effort and time into the game then the rest of the whole fucking game combined.
I am not sure if there's a more self-righteous person in the game. Or have ever been.
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On June 21 2017 19:47 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 19:46 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 19:45 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 19:29 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 19:28 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 18:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 18:28 disformation wrote:
well. to help you guys out:
ruxxar:
+ pushing ppl to vote his scumreads
+ baiting around to make ppl do stuff on otherwise dead days (d2) (this one is big for me)
+ tone
small nitpicks:
- not sure if him spamming his grack list is padding his filter.
- sometimes his baiting looks like testing the waters or him seeing what could stick.
overall i think he is way more town than nearly everyone else. - pushed Annul mislynch - pushed Grack like a madman esp. his "everyone who pushed Grack gets a townread" makes it feel like he's super happy if everyone just auto's on grack today which makes me think Grack is town well a lot of ppl pushed/voted annul and i think ruxxar happens to look better than a lot of other ppl on that wagon. and since we dont know what grack will flip yet, the other part is unflipped association. Like, I can see Grack being scum. Granted. But the way Ruxxar is pushing Grack is weirding me out, this "auto on Grack guys and you all get a townread" thing is just... yeah dunno, it's weirding me out. aight. fair enough. question is what to do now. i guess the best way of action for town is to lynch the guy that is most likely to flip scum. so if you think rels or sl have a better chance, feel free to switch.if you would like to lynch someone else, feel free to write a case. I have clearly said we should lynch into Grack/Skynx not sure why you keep ignoring that then what is the point of posting that? distancing from the lynch result? setting up ruxxar?
Are you serious? You said something about it. We had a conversation about it. Why am I not allowed to reply to something right there? Why do you want me to townread Ruxxar when I don't? Would it make more sense in your eyes if I would just go ahead and say "oh Ruxxar town because disformation whom I made a huge-ass, universally ignored case about TOLD ME SO"????
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On June 21 2017 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like literally Rels, you have made a case on Ruxxar that is basically "(1) he is trying to lynch his top scumread with (2) a bad case". Now: What is scummy in (1)? Why is this a bad case: *I took away the "he hammered town" part because that's actually a thing that never makes anyone mafia*Show nested quote +On June 18 2017 22:24 ruXxar wrote:[.....] 2) He doesn't try to solve the game. How many scum reads did he have the whole game? Let's see: DF: On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on. On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. but as fefe pointed out: On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect. For the second part: People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads. Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read. Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote. who do you think is scum? I'm kinda looking at you tbh. On June 15 2017 04:38 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 04:27 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on. On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
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Care to elaborate?
Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
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btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. but as fefe pointed out: On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
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Sure.
This post:
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I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.
Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect. For the second part: People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads. Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read. Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote. who do you think is scum? I'm kinda looking at you tbh. Look at me as much as you like, but why? I'm mostly just looking for someone kinda in the middle blending in. Disfo: On June 15 2017 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
I like Rayn too though. And I'm ok with a Disfo lynch. HF: On June 16 2017 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Holy flare seems like a very good vote. He's being ridiculously over the top trying to push this SL lynch.
I haven't liked either of his Vivax/Koshi pushes. And he dragged the Vivax one out for the hell of it. On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:On June 16 2017 06:58 annul wrote:
not at all. i am 1 switch away from majority. with the tiebreaker being what it is, i have no choice.
i WANT to vote for koshi/ruxxar since they are both mafia and either is a fine kill. but alas. Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter. It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game. I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great. "I'm ok with". "Seems like". There's 0 commitment to anything here. Just superficial non-sense without any substance. So obviously he followed up and actually tried to push his scum reads? Nope. Well, at least he voted for his scum reads? Nope. It's like a total non-commitment to any of his "reads" and just screams "I'm just trying to blend in". Explain me why this is a bad case?
It's a bad case because using sentences like "I'm ok with" and "seems like" don't make someone scum. Unless there is some meta going on.
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On June 21 2017 19:48 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 19:47 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 19:45 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 19:44 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 19:43 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 19:31 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 18:34 disformation wrote:looking back at fefe: last post: On June 21 2017 08:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I went into VA's filter almost looking for reasons to scumread him and now that I made half a case about his read progression on grack and skynx...
I kinda think he's just low effort town.. The way he comes across seems so casual and while like 80% of his posts are setup talk or useless he seems to be looking at the game from a low information point of view and hasn't pushed any sort of agenda (scum or town) that I can see. town. fairly sure. Why is that townish? "I made a half-assed attempt to do something and my result is a not-really-committed townread" How is that townish? *sigh* why would scum do that? scum would just finish up the half finished case to look like having scumreads and done stuff. realizing half way through a case that you think the guy might actually be town is far more likely to come from town. aaaand the read isnt even as shitty as you make it out to be. "i cant see any agenda in va's filter" is a pretty strong statement. A super strong statement contradicted by "I kinda think". And I super disagree with you regarding townreading "hey I almost did something". That's just bad. no. you are just bad for not realizing that is a super obv town post. piss off, 24-filters-I-have-done-nothing-disformation i really really really dislike ppl telling me i did nothing, when i put more effort and time into the game then the rest of the whole fucking game combined. I am not sure if there's a more self-righteous person in the game. Or have ever been.
i am not saying i am good at the game.
that is def. not true.
but telling me that i did nothing this game, when i am trying really damn hard to figure shit out on days where ppl want to auto is incredible insulting.
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On June 21 2017 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2017 08:01 Eversince wrote:
I think Rayn should at least drop the argument involving your comment on me. You clarified what you meant within the same minute of posting that.
No. The fact is Rels was making a factually incorrect statement he should know is one, and couldn't explain that reasonably. Instead he is trying to defend the statement. When I used this argument against him initially he said that he'd never try faking a dumbtell because he knew he'd be caught for it, so that's a dumb strategy, so he wouldn't do it
What are you talking about ?
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Skynx/Grack/Disfo/Ruxxar.
Super possible. Everytime I start to talk about people, disformation comes in and onelines the thread into a shitfight with me.
I'll mute him now.
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how do you mute ppl on tl.net?
wasnt aware that is possible
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On June 21 2017 08:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 08:46 Eversince wrote:On June 21 2017 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 21 2017 08:01 Eversince wrote:
I think Rayn should at least drop the argument involving your comment on me. You clarified what you meant within the same minute of posting that.
No. The fact is Rels was making a factually incorrect statement he should know is one, and couldn't explain that reasonably. Instead he is trying to defend the statement. This is the post in question right?: On June 17 2017 08:08 Rels wrote:On June 17 2017 01:48 Eversince wrote:
On my EoD stuff:
I ask for reads and SL: "vote with me if you think I'm town" Nothing else.
HF: vote for SL and loosely explains why. Nothings else.
I missed Rels big qoute post on Xata but I don't think it would have mattered.
Since I was left with "Blindly follow this because it's the one I want" I just blindly consolidated.
SL claiming I have him as a top town read at the time is funny.
And expecting me to make a vote based off reads that are almost 40 pg old, after I openly admit that my reads are outdated and I have no time to read to adjust them. Ooff to me.
HF claiming I say he's the only one to give input is misconstrued. Other than Rels post that I missed, he was the only one who said the reason for why I should vote with him. He just failed to do it for any of the other two wagons.
wow that makes Eversince town. My big quote was about annul. So to those thinking ES was faking entering the thread (and Ithought that too befor ethat post), is she faked that she wouldn't mess up the names there. That means the entering the thread was innocent at the very least. Which he followed within the same minute: On June 17 2017 08:08 Rels wrote:
well that probably doesn't make her town. but that makes her not faking entering the thread Or am I just not on the same page as to what that is about? Because I was thinking this is what that is about. Yes you are. I bolded the important parts for you. This is what he says now when i questioned him for it: Show nested quote +I had a thought, then I realized it was not as strong as I thought, then I posted it.
"Not as strong as I thought" is different from "that doesn't make her town at all" Does the second big part look like he said this? I think he backed off from a statement he knows is factually incorrect in a manner that looks the least bad. You know like slowly fading into the background.. I hope you and other people get what i mean here. If i made that sort of a mistake as town i would just admit i did a hasty judgement call that was retarded (in the first place) and not try to defend that later (in a way that ALSO kind of contradicts your original retractment from it).
Nothing is factually incorrect. You're nitpicking something. The sentence "well that probably doesn't make her town. but that makes her not faking entering the thread" means "it's not as strong as I thought". As I explained multiple times. There is nothing else.
Now you can say that I'm just backtracking to explain a mistake or a slip or whatver you're calling it. OK. Call me scum for that if you want. The explanation is there, and you're choosing an interpretation of it that is nitpicky to attack.
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