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On May 20 2017 19:47 Holyflare wrote: I think you probably lynch ls first tbh. The more I think about his play the worse it looks. D1 calls me mafia, lynches his best friend damdred with me on the wagon. N1 calls me mafia despite voting with him but agrees with me that rayn is mafia-y despite calling me mafia. D2 makes a meta case that rayn is mafia because of rage but only has 1 meta link to XXX mafia and it looks nothing like this game. Then he just afks on that wagon despite there being other wagons and palmar voting rayn for modkill reasons. When asked who LS' scum reads other than rayn are he says he has none. And doesn't consolidate. Despite the fact he thinks rayn is the only mafia and he agrees with my case on rayn and he's voting rayn he still thinks I'm mafia but NOT with rayn, the guy he is voting for. Furthermore, LS has been inconsistent on his reads. He says that palmar is mafia repeatedly but then says he'll lynch both palmar and holyflare despite earlier saying that if rayn is town palmar is mafia. He goes on to say that tw did not spew grack town because the case was shit but begins today saying grack is confirmed town because of spew. LS has a problem of forgetting his own reads and then trying to blend by just copying other people's reads. Lynch him after me. this is his primary case against you and it doesn't feel similar at all. i guess he accusing you of being inconsistent again, that's the only real similarity i can see. am i missing something more? | ||
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On June 04 2017 03:23 LightningStrike wrote: Did you read his follow up on that case? you mean posts like this? On May 20 2017 23:54 Holyflare wrote: How the hell can you think only one of us is mafia but the guy trying to solve the game is the one instead of the guy pandering to emotions? None of that makes the slightest bit of sense. If there's only one mafia between us then why do I spend my time trying to defend him when I just let him die and get confirmed town? | ||
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but HF does that always and to pretty much everyone. it's how sometimes he ends up lynching dumb instead of scum. i think you're kinda omgusing. | ||
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he defends TW for missing a joke "full frontal" (w/e the shit that means); when from my experience lacking a sense of humor is more mafia indicative than town. he defends grack from vivax because of last game? he doesn't disagree with vivax that what grack is doing isn't more scum indicative, he just says "don't call him mafia cuz he said terrible things last game too". read as mafia trying to pocket/protect weak town a bit. he prods the new player, which is easy for anyone to do. he calls out PB for sounding wishy-washy....but that makes no sense to me. he has a read on TW and grack from previous games, but not on PB. in the previous game PB was incredibly definitive and made tons of sense pretty much all game long. in this game PB sounds more unsure and makes less sense. it makes me think PB is more likely town, so why does PB sounding dissimilar to last game make him think PB is the same alignment as last game? dunno....pretty much don't like anything of what he has posted. | ||
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On June 04 2017 06:30 Fidei86 wrote: @ritoky I talked myself around on this a bit. Literally every game I've played with LS he's been inactive, with bad meta reads and links to filters. And every time he has been town. BH makes a good point that you have to try and work out if something is scummy for the person in question, and for LS the stuff that HF pinged out is null. LS' OMGUS drive against HF actually makes me think LS might be town - by reason of the fact that I don't know if LS as Mafia starts pushing HF based purely on OMGUS, who I presume is one of the most experienced players in the game. HF - his reads are thin and I think his LS read is wrong in particular. He has also kept pushing the TW read long after everyone else had sort of agreed and moved on. I think he probably is at a wedding tho, so his style makes sense in that context. I think it's a null-leaning slightly scummy read, but I definitely wouldn't lynch into him at the moment. Apart from the actual AFKers, the two people I'm most on at the moment are TW and Conversation, but for different reasons. We've all pinged out his weird read progression on TS earlier, but then when he finally comes back he comes in and gives two lazy-ass reads on me and ritoky (and yes, I know D1 association reads are garbage, but if one of those flips red later the other could be with them). And Conversation thread enters, leaves for almost a day, then comes back in and posts a huge WoT which basically just says nothing about the game at all. It basically flashes "I'm here and I don't care about the game", which is scumtell 101. In a way it's almost too flagrant, but I'm definitely not willing to give the benefit of the doubt at this stage. re:bolded, is this because you have many town reads? or? cuz i feel like with new players it generally should be the opposite re:LS, what about him backing off the read immediately once i pressured him about it? is that alignment indicative to you? | ||
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On June 04 2017 07:29 beentheredonethat wrote: no I haven't read the last 3-4 pages in a serious manner yes I'm going to bed now no I'm not scum i mean....if i am wrong, then how does shit like this help me get from where i am to being right? the game is like 6 pages total....w/e annoyed. | ||
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On June 04 2017 06:45 Onegu wrote: ok im here reading now dota? | ||
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On June 04 2017 08:38 Conversion wrote: Could you expand upon your read of why I make you feel weird about my alignment? I'd appreciate some effort into why you think my posts are scummy so I can understand how you think instead of what you and Fidei are doing, which is calling me weird or "scumtell 101" without actually expanding upon it. It feels rather off to me that people would let inactives pass, but rather unconstructed arguments based on feelings (you) can pass as constructive posts. don't worry about them. tell me who you think is town or mafia. | ||
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On June 04 2017 08:51 Conversion wrote: I agree with PB above in btdt-- the first non newbie game I played a lot of vets gave me a lot of shit for making my excuses lack of presence by playing the newbie card. I think it's okay if you are a bad player or a newbie, but I think it's worse for the town environment by throwing your arms up and saying you're a bad player instead of trying to be the best town player you can ability wise i am fine with players being new or bad, i actually tend to read new or bad players relatively well. what i want more of from you is what you think and why. it doesn't have to be big elaborate posts or well constructed thoughts, i just need a window into your brain so i can try to read you. when you type things like "i am glad x and y are reading me town"; normally that would indicate to me that you're more concerned with your image in the thread and how others are perceiving you than you are about finding mafia. and maybe that is the case, i don't have a good enough feel for you yet. but i want less posts like that and more posts like "i think this guy is this alignment cuz x." even if x is 1 sentence or 1 quoted post or some vague feeling in your kidney. if you don't post your train of thoughts in the thread i can never follow you, it will just come off like scattered thoughts or large leaps in logic that are disconnected | ||
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On June 04 2017 09:04 Tumblewood wrote: specifically I mean grack is probably town. every game I see grack getting scumread by other townies but never really pushed, but he always comes through with the sort of analysis that's right on the money once or twice who's pushing/scum reading grack? and why is he town? | ||
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On June 04 2017 09:13 Conversion wrote: PB is a neutral for me because the one game I saw him play here, I thought he was town in Generic II, and he's playing rather similarly. I want to say he's town right now. What about PB's play is similar to you? I was obsing that game, and he seems far less certain and definitive thus far to me. | ||
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On June 04 2017 11:36 Onegu wrote: scrubed out of the battle cup. Really am reading and catching up now. i don't wanna be a dick and yell at you for inactivity like others do, but come on man. your filter is a VT claim and 3 promises to do things.....like 5% more effort at least? | ||
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fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that. reading LS mafia, what else is new for me. btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia. tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile. grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward. BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia. onegu...flip a coin. | ||
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On June 04 2017 14:35 Tumblewood wrote: if you were reading my filter, ritoky, you might see the post where I explain exactly what I'm talking about with grack oh, and did I mention, Advanced Analytics™ i did read your filter, and it isn't there. you explained about "rooting for grack"; but mindmeld to me mean you have the same thought at the same instant or in direct response to the exact same thing some1 quoted. don't see any of that. | ||
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On June 04 2017 23:17 beentheredonethat wrote: PBs reads at that point are wishy-washy, ritoky, and if you call that a solid read, then you're misrepresenting things. If there are more questions towards me coming from that case, feel free to ask, I'm here. Yes, his reads were wishy-washy at that point, I agree with you. That's my point. My point is that his reads in the previous game were basically never wishy-washy, they were always definitive. So if he is playing the opposite or different from his previous game, then why are you assuming he is the same alignment as the previous game? | ||
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On June 04 2017 23:41 beentheredonethat wrote: stuck on page 11, cooking is done. ritoky town hf dunno, can be both, if alive >D3, lynch with fire etc I don't care about pretty much everyone else, can be lynched except Onegu, for some super weird reason I think Onegu's town but I'm not gonna share this reason holy crap.....this is so bad....this might be too bad to be scum. | ||
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On June 05 2017 01:23 Holyflare wrote: LS what do you think if Fidei putting me in a mafia list with Tumblewood? I would like an answer to this. | ||
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On June 05 2017 04:06 beentheredonethat wrote: im super good as scum i super suck as town story of my life  cool, talk about people not named BTDT and conversion. go. | ||
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On June 05 2017 04:17 Vivax wrote: Page 2 of his filter has plenty of townie posts. Also PoE cause I'm currently thinking mafia is BH/HF/PB with a +-1 margin of error or something like that. Maybe LS but I don't think he looks that bad apart from thinking that TW reading TS town after missing the joke is scummy. + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2017 22:26 Grackaroni wrote: In the second line he tags one of the most generic posts possible as "super weird" I also didn't like that he goes out of his way to quote Vivax to say that he agrees with something that he had just said at the top of his post. Nagging someone to contribute at the end adds to the perception that he's trying to fluff up contributions. Plus I generally find pestering people to post annoying. Also he called me a baddie. It actually wasn't as bad of a post as I thought though because his whole schtick in the next post is that PB is making fluff posts, which is a fair argument. That may be what he meant by super weird in the second line. On June 04 2017 23:41 Grackaroni wrote: HF might be scum for still thinking Fidei is scum. It's hard to be that self-righteous as scum. I think I gave him/her an asthma attack. On June 04 2017 23:51 Grackaroni wrote: I have a feeling that TW is town too even though his read on me makes no sense. I think these posts come off fairly townie and I simply like the way Grack puts them out there and for example how he found something that doesn't make sense in TW yet doesn't use it as an excuse to push him when there's baddies like HF trying to get him lynched. a bh/hf team? you think hf defends a teammate who has contributed this little (BH) this hard on d1? i don't think that aligns with how hf plays mafia. | ||
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On June 05 2017 04:27 Vivax wrote: To explain: RItoky last game (generic II) we had a lynch day where we were deciding between HF and Palmar. Scum HF went out of his way hard defending Palmar and trying to lynch LS and SL instead (both town) and that ended up in a foreseeable HF lynch for him. So he basically voluntarily traded himself in resulting in Palmar getting lynched the next day although the outcome would have been the exact same if he didn't. It just made sure we REALLY lynched Palmar cause HF made it look like he was trying to win the game on the spot for both of them. wasn't palmar green checked and right all game....that shit was a travesty | ||
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On June 05 2017 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote: yo ritoky when you're done calling me bad what do you think about Holyflare? i think he's probably town. | ||
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On June 05 2017 04:38 beentheredonethat wrote: I know I'm playing bad. And I assure you this is the last game I'll play for a while if not ever. Every time I sign up for a game and roll town, I get super mad when I'm called scum, I get super mad when people call me bad. So I'll be super happy if this game is over for me and don't worry, I won't sign up for any other games. out of game for a sec: sorry this is your experience. if it gets to you that hard i will do my best to refrain from calling you bad or insulting you going forward. i don't want people to have a shit time playing. | ||
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1) he was phone posting at the wedding. this is shitty reasoning, but i got the sense he was so frustrated with rolling mafia that he would have just afk'd through the wedding had he rolled it again. 2) his reaction to one of tube's posts about conv and pb was pretty much identical to my reaction to it. 3) he is pushing LS in a way that doesn't feel like he is pocketing LS or is in a QT with LS 4) he hasn't talked about me much/given reads on me formally, which is how he tends to act toward me as town on day 1 5) he is defending BH, who i feel hf values as one of the few players on the player list with game-solving potential if he tries. as mafia i think he would be content to let BH just die. | ||
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On June 04 2017 16:13 Onegu wrote: Grack leaves out Fword dude in his list post. But Fword dude has posted much and grack should have a opinion on him but doesnt... idk i just feel like TW is super peripheral this game. he doesn't engage with what is actually goes on, stays floating on the edges and doesn't take a stand for very much since he got burned right away. don't really think first 30 min vibes paint over the rest of his day phase. | ||
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On June 05 2017 05:11 Vivax wrote: Ritoky why is PB town? You only mentioned him being less definitive and ended up TRing him, is that all there is to it? So far you're avoiding to talk about him when I try to stir up discussion about him my literal only reason for PB town is he reads different than the previous game that he was mafia in. i was an obs in that game though, so technically this is my first game with him. his vote on BTDT was basically just a copypasta of my case tho, so at second glance his contribution level is actually kinda low. | ||
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to which hf will respond: i have been trying to push my lynch you idiot, but you're sitting here calling me mafia and calling BH mafia over dumb crap. to which vivax will respond: this case is not dumb, here's the case. can we just stop for a moment and realize that there's 3 of us here trying to actually solve the game while half the game fucks off? | ||
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lookin at TW, grack, fidei, maybe PB, maybe ls | ||
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On June 05 2017 05:42 Tumblewood wrote: I wanna lynch holyflare and I'm not sure it's even for alignment reasons anymore is BH still town for you? | ||
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On June 05 2017 05:49 Tumblewood wrote: still think ls lynch is the best, ignoring the fact that I wanna punch Hf telekinetically ls always has a couple posts where he is just did clueless when he's town, and this game he's not a scrub, just boring. which posts? and how are they different from another LS game? | ||
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also to me | ||
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On June 05 2017 05:58 LightningStrike wrote: Tbh I been thinking what HF said about BH lynch being useless although if BH flips scum it just makes it s owe got 2 scum to deal with. I seeing Vivax push on HF and HF push on Vivax over BH. Vivax vs HF feels like TvS for me idk why >.< who's the T and who's the S? | ||
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On June 05 2017 06:02 LightningStrike wrote: I trying to figure it out honestly. How you feel about Vivax vs HF? so you have no inclinations at all? | ||
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On June 05 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote: I been reading it and feeling a bit lost. I know Vivax wont be able to continue to push HF Day 2 as scum. HF could do those arguments as both alignments that where my issue is. If both HF vs Vivax are town it been a battle of ego over nothing. The way it dragging making me think it's scum vs town on side or the other. okay, but gun to your head which is which? | ||
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On June 05 2017 06:13 Grackaroni wrote: Not sure. I don't see any major slips anywhere. TAKE A GUESS it's like pulling damn teeth this game | ||
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On June 05 2017 06:13 Tumblewood wrote: you see, Hf, I'm never going to explain it to you because you're just going to continue to argue with whatever I say. maybe you're used to people bowing down to you because you yell a lot but I actually don't have to play by your rules what's wrong with his question. you said "i read bh's filters" hf asked "which filters?" then provided them. how the hell does turning your nose up help? | ||
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On June 05 2017 06:17 LightningStrike wrote: Maybe HF but not confident on it honestly. Slight chance it's town vs town with big egos against each other. ![[image loading]](http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/993/875/084.png) | ||
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On June 05 2017 06:19 LightningStrike wrote: Like Isaid I not confident it's HF but if it'Vivax it will be clear Day 2. well you've covered basically every possibility so...OK THEN | ||
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On June 05 2017 06:20 Vivax wrote: This game RN. Yes ritoky is giving me the creeps lately cause he's oblivious to HFs misinformation campaign and my posts about PB. He keeps pretending PB doesn't exist. what the hell am i supposed to think abt PB that i don't? he hasn't done a whole lot -> coin flippy, he sounds different than before -> townie, he has low content per words -> mafia, he promised reads then fucked off -> most players in the game so he's a coin flip who i said i would consider lynching. what am i missing? | ||
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On June 05 2017 06:33 LightningStrike wrote: Well that's fine honestly although I don't think you know I more clueless as town than scum :o okay but to me you feel like you're standing still in complete darkness. town LS should be feeling for walls and trying to find bearings, even if it is in misguided ways. also you never conclude anything unless you have some1 like me trying to drag it the hell out of you. it makes it seem like you want to remain "clean" or have plausible deniability at all times. | ||
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interested in pursuing LS further if i make it back. if PB never posts his reads or does anything more, could be convinced to vote him. | ||
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On June 05 2017 11:56 Blazinghand wrote: So the moral of the story is, once again Blazinghand carrying town to victory what else do we possibly need? | ||
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On June 06 2017 03:17 Holyflare wrote: Hey ritoky how about some input? You had concerns about LS and he was on the mafia lynch and you ain't said shit. i work graveyards in the ER so, i been at work and asleep. i mean what do you want me to say? mechanics and my brain tells me that tomorrow we don't lynch anyone who voted on dead lynch mafia because that's optimal play; but i just think LS is mafia. not only did he have basically no reads while being active and present all d1, but he wasn't even trying to get reads. plus that whole take 5 posts to list every possible scenario of vivax and hf arguing was just a steamy turd. plus you look at his post lynch reaction and compare it to BH (who i think comes off incredibly town); and it's just bad. he is reaching for cred like he led a lynch or hammered a lynch when he is an extraneous vote on a basically 7 vote wagon, and has never even said anything relevant about the guy in his filter. plus you go look at his filter in relation to fid: On June 03 2017 20:10 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up not much going on except some really weird argument between TW and TS. Actually my last game I had trouble getting started too yet I was town? I guess you haven't followed any games in recent times lol. Filter from last game: http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/521332-generic-mini-mafia-ii?user=LightningStrike Granted it still early Day 1 atm. Fidei puts tiny pressure on LS, LS posts a filter link. fidei just stops, then magically LS becomes a town lean. On June 03 2017 22:52 LightningStrike wrote: I too thought it was weird which is why I want TW to explain his townread on TS. The way he jumped on TS and later townreading him for that stuff being a joke is very unusual. trashcan post about agreeing things are weird. On June 05 2017 02:37 LightningStrike wrote: top 3 town: Tubesock: Had some decent content that I agreed with. Grack: Tone says town Grack over scum Grack atm he seems genuine with his posts to BH. ritoky: Put in some work and read part of HF's filter from Generic plus decent content posts. top 3 scum BH: His push on Grack seems forced more or less and made a super big deal out of nothing? Also agreed with Tubeosck's point on him. TW: Didn't really like his reasoning on his townread switch on TS. It just feels weird. Honestly don't got a 3rd scum yet. fidei tossing LS softballs. i don't really think i am conf biasing | ||
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i think PB's post about his reaction to the lynch is pretty similar to mine, although him never delivering on his promised reads is meh. he came to the same conclusion i did about the 3 people i think are town because of the lynch and he looks toward the same spot i do for the mafia on the wagon (grack + ls). but when he starts saying things that make tons of sense to me, it's kinda the opposite of why i had him town leaned earlier. btdt played the emo card on me and i am hard pressed to get over that. i think his filter and play isn't particularly townie, but he played the emo card.... conv is certainly not particularly useful at the moment, but i don't get the sense that he is malicious or mafia. i told him "stop doing this and give me reads." and then he immediately produced reads that seemed genuine; so i have a difficult time thinking he's mafia. then vivax....i guess vivax COULD be mafia? but then i been pretty wrong this game. but doesn't vivax just see the runaway train and bus his partner for the nickle or dime's worth of credit he would get? i would have. | ||
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On June 04 2017 16:13 Onegu wrote: Grack leaves out Fword dude in his list post. But Fword dude has posted much and grack should have a opinion on him but doesnt... i still like this too. maybe i should read gracks filter | ||
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On June 04 2017 23:41 Grackaroni wrote: HF might be scum for still thinking Fidei is scum. It's hard to be that self-righteous as scum. I think I gave him/her an asthma attack. so this wasn't a strong read of yours but it was strong enough for hf to be considered mafia for disagreeing with it? On June 05 2017 06:13 Grackaroni wrote: Not sure. I don't see any major slips anywhere. no reads, non-commital On June 05 2017 06:57 Grackaroni wrote: I think your case is solid but I still kind of like him because he's being snarky and more defiant in this game. The other problem is that he's not exactly known to make very much sense as town. re: TW pre-claim. potential TMI pre-emptive defense. On June 05 2017 07:39 Grackaroni wrote: Onegu's big post is something I've never seen him do before and it wasn't all that useful. but then sheeps onegu's read? huh? On June 05 2017 08:53 Grackaroni wrote: I'm going to consolidate to Prison Break. would appear he preferred the shennanies fall on someone else o woops, the thread went onto someone else who may or may not be my partner, let me fix that by sheeping the claimed blue. okay this makes me feel better, i could def see 1 of LS or grack being mafia which means i only have to find 1 outside of the wagon. | ||
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On June 06 2017 04:08 LightningStrike wrote: ritoky why you wasted your vote EoD when it was clear no one was on me? That was extremely dumb and BH wasting his vote too was terrible we just got lucky on the shannies hitting scum. bh waited until the dude was basically in the ground b4 playing games, he didn't endanger shit. and wasted my vote? i came back with 3 minutes, barely grasped that a blue had been claimed and voted on the next up on my list. you act like my vote could have done anything. i don't see a quadruple voter role in this game. | ||
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On June 06 2017 04:12 LightningStrike wrote: James pretty much spewed me town although iffy at best but here the thing. I went on james because it was either TW who claimed doctor or BH who I felt had atownie reaction to wanting to get lynched over the doctor so I went with the james wagon. We got lucky there that James flipped scum. But that leaves the real question: What the hell scum was doing EoD? The ycould of controlled the lynch yet they didn't. Do you think I would kill my gf that early regardless of what would happen when I care more about the team? I wouldn't risk losing a scum member to shannies at all hell I wouldn't risk it even more on the gf. Also James questions to me I was actually being honest right there I had no 3rd option right at that time. i reject that you had any influence EoD on the vote; and personal relationships are relevant cuz? | ||
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On June 06 2017 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: ritoky just admit you can't read me for shit especially in the Im the Cop You Idiot game -.- oh stop. | ||
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On June 06 2017 04:19 LightningStrike wrote: Like if you thought I was going for credit there I wasn't I was just showing my pure emotions at the lynch. well it read to me like you wanted the world to know how integral you were in the making of that lynch. if that's me misreading you, okay. | ||
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On June 06 2017 04:36 Grackaroni wrote: We can start from the beginning. Every single mention of Fidei in your filter. And then you come back when people are pushing me and act like me not having a read on Fidei is a good point when you said nothing about him all game. I mean the difference between me and you is that I basically had no read on fid, and if you want the real reason for that it is because fid posted shit about london in the community thread so i kinda felt like i should just give the benefit of the doubt that there's shit going on there. while you had a read strong enough to potentially call hf mafia for not having the same read, then proclaimed that it wasn't strong and you were content voting on fid. | ||
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On June 06 2017 04:42 LightningStrike wrote: It still makes you and BH look bad for VCA that why I giving a damn about it. We both know wasting votes regardless of the flip is terrible. i mean i could sit here and argue back that i would have voted on fid for the free cred if i come back to the thread and my partner is basically dead. but where's that gonna get us? | ||
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On June 06 2017 04:50 Grackaroni wrote: That's not my point. You were opportunistically calling me out for leaving him off my list when you didn't talk about him at all. The twisted narrative from your second post about me makes me think this is less likely hypocrisy and more likely scum motivated. I would have been willing to vote for Conversion or Prison Break who I both called town earlier in the day. A large part of the reason that Fidei got voted is that he disappeared for a long time and that has a big influence since my reads change relatively frequently. I had a lot of chances to shenanny to somebody else at the end of the day. I defended TW. I defended HF. I defended LS. If I wanted to save Fidei I could have given a defense of him and came out looking fine but I didn't want to lynch Tumblewood. I don't think I did this. What I said was: 1) your read on fid was strong enough that you accused hf of potentially being mafia just for not sharing the same read as you -> then later you claimed to not have a strong read on fid at all. so then why is hf potential mafia for not sharing a weak read of yours? 2) you wanted to lynch onegu minutes before sheeping his read. 3) you wanted to lynch onegu, then pb, then and only after those didn't materialize and there was an obvious tide flocking to fid did you move to fid. to me that indicates that you wanted the shennanie to land on other people first. And regarding "I change my reads frequently" that's really not a good thing sometimes, what have you done for me recently is kinda a crappy heuristic. Sometimes people just do shit that makes them town or mafia forever. | ||
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i am town therefore i am mafia? can we lynch inside the vote tomorrow? i know we shouldn't but can we please? | ||
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On June 06 2017 12:01 Grackaroni wrote: But Ritoky did something hypocritical so there's 100% chance of a shit fight this cycle. First he came for the Tumblewood and I didn't care because I'm not the Tumblewood. Then he came for the Lightningstrike and I didn't care because I'm not the Lightningstrike. But then he came for me. This time it's personal. if you want a fight with someone, look elsewhere. i have moved on from my angry days, not that guy anymore. there's plenty of people around who could probably oblige. i just think you're mafia for the reasons i have outlined and i don't think you've done anything to convince me otherwise. but hey i thought i was mafia for making a convincing case on btdt? but hey you "read my filter" right? so you would realize that this quote that i am "framing" you with, i picked out a long time ago in my filter and just re-quoted it. On June 05 2017 05:15 ritoky wrote: but TW's top town read is BH....and his lynch list is HF cuz of omgus, LS for being LS/omgus, and onegu for being low hanging fruit. he didn't even respond to any of 1gu's post which actually had a gem in it: idk i just feel like TW is super peripheral this game. he doesn't engage with what is actually goes on, stays floating on the edges and doesn't take a stand for very much since he got burned right away. don't really think first 30 min vibes paint over the rest of his day phase. but hey that would take reading my filter rather than just looking for snippets to support the conclusion you already had. or maybe i just planned 2 days ago that "if the scenario ever occurs where onegu becomes confirmed town and fidei dies, and grack is still alive; then whamo! i can pin it on him!" lul. i asked it before and i will ask it again. if your read on fidei "wasn't that strong" then why did you think HF was mafia explicitly because he didn't share the exact same read as you? | ||
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On June 06 2017 13:04 Grackaroni wrote: No I called out your bullshit as soon as I saw it. It would be one thing if you had talked at length about Fidei being scummy and found it interesting that I didn't include him in my reads list. It's another thing to completely ignore him and then piggy back on what Onegu said about me not talking about him. I also didn't include TW and Tubesock who most people gave a read on. then why wasn't it an issue when i quoted it 2 days ago? | ||
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On June 06 2017 13:08 Grackaroni wrote: It didn't seem interesting to me when I didn't know he was scum. Now that I do it does seem interesting to me. like i said your narrative for me being mafia is "he called me mafia! oh and he quoted this post onegu made 2 days ago that i didn't care about, but now i do; cuz he plotted to lump me in with fidei in the off chance onegu became confirmed town and fidei died! also he made a really convincing case on btdt that i agreed with, makes him mafia too." town find evidence and draw conclusions from it. you make conclusions and try to find evidence and warp a narrative to fit your constructed worldview, that's just basic mafia mindset. | ||
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On June 06 2017 13:15 Grackaroni wrote: You're mafia at best. Hypocritical at worst. Well if you're mafia then just keep posting about me and I'll happily send you to obs, if by some miracle you aren't then you should go find one cuz you're barking up the wrong tree. | ||
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"i would expect you as town to realize that you..." is all about image. it says "if you're town you would have considered previous stances before posting" which is literally the opposite of how you play town where you spew your frontal lobe into the thread without a second thought. you're saying i am mafia for being town again. it's w/e over it. | ||
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On June 06 2017 13:32 Prison Break wrote: yea so based on my reads I'm not buying this claim but I want to hear from HF + see if someone CC's (unless if grack is right on him being VT, I really suck at judging these sandbag things you guys do here rofl, where I usually play lie=die) why are you inclined to not buy it without a cc? | ||
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On June 07 2017 06:06 Blazinghand wrote: Because you think he's scum or because you think he's VT? i am currently at fake cop and no further yet. force me to guess, i would say mafia because i don't see the town upside in the play as vt and i don't think vivax is a dumb player. i just don't see how a real cop vivax red checks the guy he was sparring with d1 and then says "red check + throw a fit" *mic drop*. doesn't cop vivax yell even louder at hf? | ||
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i don't understand how grack got to vivax vt, but i guess that's to be expected. | ||
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On June 07 2017 06:26 Grackaroni wrote: Is that so? It seemed like you were half the way there. well you got there yesterday pretty instantly too...so... you think vivax is a pissed off townie who was trying hard all phase to get one of his lynches, then a bunch of afks showed up and just rando lynched disregarding all his work right? and then he is just throwing a tantrum trying to force a lynch onto his scum read by fake claiming a check and fucking off? where is the upside in that play as VT? | ||
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On June 07 2017 06:37 Grackaroni wrote: I've seen a lot of tantrums. But that isn't my point. Why are you trying to make me look scummy for arguing Vivax is VT when you were clearly just considering that possibility. Sorry I forgot I can't talk to you without you randomly trying to turn everything into an argument. My bad. | ||
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Yes it was, you're taking a question of me trying to understand your thought process and how you got to the headspace you're in so that MAYBE one day if there's a cop with 4 green checks on you I can begin to reconsider your alignment; and rather than just answer it, you're trying to make it sound like an accusation and start a fight with me again. "to be expected" is not antagonistic, it is just reality. I think you're the opposite alignment, and I think you're making conclusions then after the fact constructing narratives to support those conclusions. So it is only natural that I don't understand how you got to where you are since in my opinion it is made up. I did this thing, it is called process. I said "well, i am pretty sure he is fake. i am leaning mafia let me consider this further." "if he was vt what does he have to gain from this?" "i can't think of anything right now, so he is probably mafia." "hey this guy thinks he is vt, hey guy who thinks he is vt what upside is there for vivax to make this play if he is vt?"; guy's response: "fuck you fight me, you're mafia" But like I said you are sucking the modicum of joy I get from this game out of it and I don't feel well enough to deal with that, so I am just going to leave. | ||
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On June 07 2017 17:21 Vivax wrote: It does kind of read forced, like you two rented a room closed yourself off and started slapping each other taking turns while outside people were wondering what was going on. A dry shitfight LOL this gave me a good laugh. | ||
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On June 07 2017 17:24 Holyflare wrote: If vivax is town 100% btdt is mafia. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/522886-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi?user=beentheredonethat&page=5 Whole filter is being a hipster calling vivax town against everyone, quoting posts to town read him and saying he'll lynch me first and vivax after. ? i feel like you conveniently forgot how emo he went; which i don't think he's particularly capable of faking from what i have seen from him. also you're setting up a lot of "if vivax is town, then x" scenarios, it feels like you're trying to pre-empt the direction of the next cycle. | ||
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On June 07 2017 18:56 Vivax wrote: I'm feeling better about HF + TS now actually. Only scummy thing coming to mind regarding ritoky is literally his afking at deadline while being there. And I don't need to quote something for that. He ninja voted but wasn't around to discuss stuff. ? I went to the grocery store the latest i could in order to make dinner and go to work on time....fuck you. | ||
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On June 07 2017 23:10 LightningStrike wrote: I honestly been waiting to see if anyone will CC Vivax and was thinking about the game scenrios if Vivax was the cop but he recided his claim. Idk why he decided to make us waste 48 hours but then again I did do something similar in the game where hf survived a red check as scum. Vivax if you are town what the hell were you thinking of claiming a red check on HF that early in the day only to recide that claim? Have you really been "waiting to see" or have you just been afk and disinterested in the game? Cuz your post doesn't sound like you read the past 10 or so pages. | ||
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On June 07 2017 23:38 LightningStrike wrote: Idk what to think honestly because it was very anti town of Vivax to try to do that claim stuff but it is a mostly stupid move for scum to do that unless he wanted to do a very big gamble. Yes I know scum was in a bad shot losing their GF Day 1 but it not impossible for them to come back and Vivax knows this. very mixed feelings on this honestly :\ why are you so afraid to make any reads this game? | ||
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Also why did you feel you had to make a play like this, you thought there's no way you can get hf lynched through conventional means? | ||
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must have been before where i was reading from or i just missed it. but this is different than "if viv town, then btdt 100% mafia". you just think the rest of grack's play differentiates him as more likely town? | ||
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On June 08 2017 04:09 LightningStrike wrote: I been thinking about rather the fact Vivax if he was the real cop (hint he retracted his claim) who was pissed off and didn't do shit after red checking HF but then later he unclaimed. I honestly can't tell whether it's scum Vivax doing a suicidal move or a depressed town Vivax. being uncertain on vivax's alignment doesn't prevent you from having other reads. or conditional reads based on what he flips. do you have any of those? | ||
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On June 08 2017 04:19 LightningStrike wrote: Got you likely town but still found it weird that you went on a off wagon EoD. BH could be town based on his reaction of potentially getting lynched but again he went off wagon pretty close to EoD. Grack I feel is very likely town because he playing similar to generic how he was somewhat trolly but later did try to put in some work. TS I will have to reread his filter and ofc TW is unCCed doctor. why isn't HF town? fear? respect? or something in particular? | ||
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On June 08 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote: I respect his scum game a lot but he more of a null read atm because of that. so no feelings or specifics that triggered that? just your generic brand "he's holyflare so if he is alive day 4 i am gonna lynch him cuz it is what you do" read? | ||
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On June 08 2017 05:08 Blazinghand wrote: sure, make sure you return to the dumpster fire that is this thread afterwards though i am keyboard warrioring it up in another locale right now. it is important. | ||
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On June 08 2017 05:14 Tumblewood wrote: sorry, I get what you're saying, but even if I knew for a fact vivax was town I would still do this. not that I've ever seen a bad fakeclaim and didn't think the guy was likely mafia, but I have too much respect for myself to prioritize a slightly better chance of the win over letting people get away with this shit oh please with the white knighting "good gameplay". either you think he's mafia cuz there's no sense to the play as town and lynch him or you don't. | ||
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On June 08 2017 05:28 Blazinghand wrote: I think BTDT should not be lynched Endorsed. | ||
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On June 08 2017 05:35 beentheredonethat wrote: Also wait - BH was all day like "look I hammered scum I'm so great" BH actually did not hammer scum, I thought all game he was part of the fidei train but he wasn't :O he effectively was, he just hopped off at the last minute to do some funsie shit. | ||
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On June 08 2017 05:38 beentheredonethat wrote: erm no wait http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523517-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi-voting-thread?user=Blazinghand No. at no point was his vote on fidei oh? am i misremembering then? i coulda sworn he was. | ||
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On June 08 2017 05:37 beentheredonethat wrote: We should all lynch Prison Break. If people stick to the Vivax lynch, meh. especially HF, like, if he thinks Vivax is town (and he said he feels so) then he should absolutely be brave enough to not lynch the guy. We have a super clear scum wagon where we can deduce enough people to put on our town pile. The problem isn't that I don't think your case on PB is good, the problem is that no one has said anything to convince me how vivax's play comes from a town pov. | ||
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On June 08 2017 05:47 Blazinghand wrote: Whoa, don't imply I was ever helpful, my vote was never on fidei then i too also misinterpreted it. lol | ||
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On June 08 2017 05:56 Blazinghand wrote: Actually, this kind of non-committment is so obviously "scummy" that my willingness to say this and put myself out there in order to tell the truth is a town-tell imo But then the self-analysis of how townie you are because of your apparent town-tell is a scum-tell! O NO | ||
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On June 08 2017 06:45 Blazinghand wrote: So I'm actually quite comfy with this Vivax lynch today. I'm just chilling for the next couple of hours. I'm taking questions if anyone has any. Have you ever noticed that young people buy almost exclusively frozen foods and pre-prepared meals, while older people buy components to cook with? | ||
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On June 08 2017 06:42 Tumblewood wrote: clean citizens bh ls upstanding guys ts btdt rit grack hf? unscrupulous fellas pb conv bad dude vivax it bothers me fundamentally that ls is above me on this list. | ||
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On June 08 2017 06:56 Holyflare wrote: Am i old now wtf? Components are way better. Check out people's carts or baskets when you go grocery shopping next time (at least this is the case in america), some1 pointed it out to me and I can't unsee it. A couple 20 yr olds shopping got 10 frozen burritos some frozen pizza, 8 monsters, etc. Walk by a 70 yr old they got leeks and beets and flour and milk. | ||
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On June 08 2017 09:10 beentheredonethat wrote: Call me dumb but my D2 basically was: 1. Believe a claim without CC 2. Not scumread Vivax for the fake claim, especially since he rescinded. In retrospective, the point where he rescinded should've made things clear: why does he rescind in the first place? To save himself? Impossible. So why does he rescind? Because HF claimed blue. Vivax does not have perfect information, so he believes the claim. At this moment, Vivax thinks "fuck, not only have I incorrectly faked a red check, but I have also outed the 2nd blue". So all he can do to save that potential second blue is un-claiming, thus allowing HF to also unclaim - or of course at least not get lynched and survive another night due to Tumblewood-doc being alive. The rescind was a town tell. even if he was town i reject this. | ||
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btdt's case doesn't say anything about you not scum reading fid either, it is about lack of follow-up on your reads. he is saying "PB says things then never does anything about it". you didn't vote on fid nor were you actively trying to get people to vote on him like "HEY LYNCH THIS FUCKER HE NEEDS TO DIE NOW!" style even though he was your 2nd scummer. as for flood control, it is less about post count and more that you feel disconnected from the game (at least to me). it's like there's a game going on and then you randomly appear posting a wall of text that is like 30 hours old and half of it is irrelevant now, and then you disappear without much interaction. | ||
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On June 08 2017 17:27 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know Holyflare. First Tumbleweed and then Vivax. Maybe we've got to start leaving things to the real pros like Grackaroni. Damn I shoulda voted with this guy yesterday! Who'd he vote on? | ||
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Yeah, that guy is a douche I hear. | ||
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On June 08 2017 17:39 Grackaroni wrote: I can't tell if Ritoky is still mad at me. Bro, I am just over halfway through my shift and I already got 2 stab wounds, a guy who thinks he has a pet squirrel, and a teen who thought holding a bottle rocket until it explodes was a great idea. No room in me for anger. | ||
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Back to work, was fun guys! | ||
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On June 09 2017 03:19 beentheredonethat wrote: The really weird thing is that it's almost day 3 and I cannot remember any scumreads nor any pushes from Holyflare. ? he was leading the lynch until the guy he was trying to lynch claimed blue d1, he was leading the lynch day 2.....so????? | ||
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On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote: If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH. If you are a cop check into me HF or BH. That way the game is solved easier for us. interested in your justification for these | ||
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On June 09 2017 04:05 LightningStrike wrote: Me so that way I wont be a question mark. BH because it will give us more information about Day 1. HF so we know his alignment and can figure the game easier. right, but why is the shoot list the same as the check list? | ||
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On June 09 2017 04:56 Prison Break wrote: like I'm not saying scum would always town or scumread me, but the reason has to be genuine, and it seems like btdt is kind of pissed off that I actually came in here to defend myself etc. and people are starting to townread me now. like he doesn't want to let go but he doesn't feel comfortable continuing his push either. but he never really reconsiders. I don't even know what he scumreads me for anymore why would a scum's read on you have to be genuine? wouldn't it be the opposite and be constructed? and contrary to what hf has said, i don't think anything you have said recently makes me inclined to call you town. i find most of your posts to be coming from a place of defense or omgus, and like someone said earlier i don't feel like you try very hard to convert your reads into action in any substantive way. it has happened a couple times, like you lay a read out into the thread, every1 ignores it and you have no real response to ppl just hand waving past it; i also don't feel the desire to lynch emanating from you and maybe that's cuz i don't know you; and lastly you haven't made any super nuanced or detail-oriented observations where i am like "holy shit mind blow town" which i kinda expect from a townie when you have giant walls of text. pretty much the only reason i haven't been on your case is that you sound so different from last game, particularly on day 1; but as time goes on and i have town reads i am pretty confident in, i want more than just that. | ||
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On June 09 2017 05:10 beentheredonethat wrote: don't, just don't. instead, be constructive. idk if you're american, but there's this thing that is going on today, james comey testified on potential espionage charges; it is kinda more important to me and taking my attention. | ||
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scheduled for 8 am i think? dunno, i had to DVR it cuz it was on when i was sleeping and i have been watching it back. | ||
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On June 09 2017 06:37 Grackaroni wrote: Could you be a dear and show me where I haven't read your filter? I also have no clue what my PB boner is but I'd love to hear about it. Speak his name and he shall be summoned! You claimed to have read my filter thoroughly when you made a case on me after I apparently "framed you" with an onegu quote. To which you were completely unaware that I had quoted it 2 days prior as well and was re-quoting it from my own filter. Ergo, someone didn't read like they said they did. PB boner mostly referencing how he was your top shennanie target but then you did nothing to pursue of further that read...also not too sure how you got there either, until you just randomly declared him town. I also forgot how you was like. "HF is mafia cuz he doesn't agree with my fid read." Then "I didn't have a strong fid read." Yeah, mafia. | ||
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On June 04 2017 16:13 Onegu wrote: Ok here is my problem with BH and his RNG lynch. BH does this every game. Him posting a RNG lynch is NAI for him. But with this set up I think he could have hit 2 different people vivax or someone 2 slots above or behind him depending on where BH wanted to put the newbies. He does post starting with conversion first. Meh maybe Im thinking to much about this. But seriously how do people not know this is what BH does. RNG first is always his first thing.... Tumblewood coming in with the attitude was really weird also. Then he calls out tube for focusing on the only thing that happend in the thread at that point, because he calls BH rng nothing... TW gets scum points. @PrisonBreak. What is the difference between a RNG vote and a RNG lynch. IMO they are the same thing. Both give zero info. I would say a RNG lynch gives more info because you see who went along with it when a RNG vote gives you nothing because it is just one person. Town points to Vivax seeing the same thing on TW. To bad we are lynching Vivax... Scum points to Vivax for bitching about Grack posting but not being around. Thats not a scum tell. Good thing we are lynching vivax. Fword dude gets scum points for the calling out of people who posted in the thread but didnt actually comment on things. This is just bitching and not actual scum hunting. LS comments on things with no relevant meaning <3 LS PrisonBreak calling out Fword dude. PrisonBreak getting town points. Fword dude defending his stance. Scum BTDT calling out the newbie. Im a bit meh on it as I actually like PB thoughts. NAI on BTDT though. Fword dude agreeing with BTDT- Yeah I think FWord dude is scum. Everything HF is posting is completely forgettable even though I am still reading it. HF town. Ritoky also forgettable and boring... Conversion makes a large post that says nothing except he wants to learn how to catch mafia. Really a bleh post. Ritoky makes a good post on BTDT. But dislike Fword dude more than BTDT for scum. BH third post isnt pushing is RNG lynch, but his fourth is. Kinda odd he doesnt tack on at the end of his third post that vivax is scum. But NAL. Grack leaves out Fword dude in his list post. But Fword dude has posted much and grack should have a opinion on him but doesnt... Fword dude calls out the other newbie... Love me some PB. Like his posts. I doubt I will ever vote him. Tumble wanting to lynch BH out of nowhere. BLeh Agree with HF, would lynch Tumble. BH drops his Vivax for grack to easy imo... Like BH even I dont know how your RNG works, I just assume its right and you do it. But if I started questioning things I am sure they would be wrong. The grack vote here seems really odd. 2 pages of BH and Grack arguing about RNG and how it works shoot me now... Tubesock makes a great post on the newbies. HF calls this post out for being good. Town for both of them. @Tubesock I am here and I just posted it in thread as I read this thread a write a stream of thoughts on this post. On June 05 2017 05:15 ritoky wrote: but TW's top town read is BH....and his lynch list is HF cuz of omgus, LS for being LS/omgus, and onegu for being low hanging fruit. he didn't even respond to any of 1gu's post which actually had a gem in it: idk i just feel like TW is super peripheral this game. he doesn't engage with what is actually goes on, stays floating on the edges and doesn't take a stand for very much since he got burned right away. don't really think first 30 min vibes paint over the rest of his day phase. On June 06 2017 04:04 ritoky wrote: i still like this too. maybe i should read gracks filter that one. | ||
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The major problem I have with HF being mafia is that I am like 60% sure he has had a blue read on me for most of the game. And the fact that I was not dying or getting roleblocked after having that feeling from him makes me have severe doubts. HF, you kept saying TW could not be the doctor, which means you had a blue read on someone who was it? | ||
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On June 09 2017 21:49 Holyflare wrote: There's something in my mind that keeps telling me ritoky has fake claimed before though but i can't remember where and semi town read him anyway i think i have claimed cop 2 or 3 times? i don't think i've ever been cop before this on TL. 1 of them i think i did some stupid claim crap as mafia in imperial i think? the other 1 or 2 was years ago i would claim cop with a red as VT on 27ninjabunnies to get a read on her based on if she flipped shit over it. | ||
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On June 10 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote: Also Imperial I think had the most pages of a single mafia game if I remember correctly. LS, i am interested in who you think is mafia outside the claims? | ||
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On June 10 2017 03:44 Holyflare wrote: The conservatives don't have a majority in the house of commons to do anything so in order to maintain the majority of 326(i think?) seats they have to form a coalition with another party. The other parties with seats are all left/centre parties and so won't agree. The DUP (homophobic/abti abortion/creationist Irish nuts) are the only ones willing to do so and they will absolutely be demanding a lot of their policies will be shoved through. Bear in mind they won't be able to do anything of their wishes if they didn't form this coalition either. Theresa May will remain PM but she lost so much of her party power that people are calling for her to resign because she basically called an election to get more power and ended up with almost no power. I'm happy London almost unanimously voted Labour and saw sense. The rest of the country are a bunch of degenerate cockwombles though. I don't think Theresa May will remain PM for very long, she'll probably resign within the week. I feel like there's tons of intricate things here that I probably should know, but why would she resign? I know she doesn't have the public mandate she was looking for, but for all intents and purposes isn't she still the leader of the majority party? Why would you willingly abdicate power? Or did she lose key members who supported her in the election turnover or? And is there a better conservative alternative? From what I read the next guy up is a douche canoe. | ||
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On June 10 2017 03:51 Prison Break wrote: May be LS after all Why, and do you think LS would be more likely a partner for HF or TW? | ||
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On June 10 2017 04:03 Holyflare wrote: She was ahead, she had a majority already. She called this election to gain more of a majority because she was cocky. She never turned up to debate any of the parties ever, she ran a smear campaign. You're not allowed to broadcast smear campaigns in the uk tv but she was doing it all over youtube and stuff. Real US politics attack with strong and stable soundbites. She took her party from a position of absolute power and ran it into a position where there's a "hung parliament" so her party can effectively get nothing they want through the house of commons. Now she's partnered with religious extremists after imploring to fight against religious extremists. I guess I am just too used to America where old white people hold onto power with their arthritic fingers until their dying breath regardless of if they do awful things or have 0 public support or tank their own party. Funny how they targeted young people with negative ads via internet advertising and got absolutely rekt in that demo. Shoulda learned from Obama, hope, change, and free shit is the way to go for the young people! | ||
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On June 10 2017 04:23 LightningStrike wrote: From my PoV it's one of Covnersion, PB, and Tubesock by PoE alone. PB seems likely town by meta. So that leaves Conversion and Tubesock as my last scum there. Tubesock did vote 2nd on James but if TW was the roleblocker he probably would do that bus honestly. Conversion I liked some of his posts after I read his filter a bit but his weird reaction to the flip seems odd defending himself about being a team with PB. So ya One of Tubesock and Conversion is my last scum you? I think figuring out you is the key for me to solve the game. So walk me through your read on me and HF respectively, since from what I can gather your TW read is entirely "he's un-cc'd blue" with no further interaction. For me you read me town for examining a past game's filter, then I called you mafia, and you seemingly wavered, then you didn't interact with me forever, and then you said mine was the most believable claim. Is there more depth to it, and what makes mine the most believable? Then explain your hf read over the course of the game, because in your filter you speak a disproportionate amount to hf compared to anyone else in the game, but I never got the sense you committed to a solid read whether that be out of paranoia or? | ||
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On June 10 2017 04:42 LightningStrike wrote: Part of my HF read was paranoia especially Day 1 and ritoky did called me out on that and moved him to null. Didn't like his trolling to me towards EoD 2. Now I think his attacking TW's doc claim since Day 1 lines up with him actually being blue. what specifically made my claim most believable? | ||
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On June 10 2017 04:54 Conversion wrote: are you seriously calling me possible scum in a post I made during D2 in reply to BTDT saying I was a scum team with PB? can you make a better case than that? his case is PoE, what is wrong with it? you think it is TW + LS right? can you give me your best 3-5 reasons on why LS is mafia. | ||
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On June 10 2017 06:01 Prison Break wrote: LS how certain are you that I'm town? like i don't know what this accomplishes or what the point of this is....it gives me weird vibes like he is trying to induce LS to scum read him for some reason? plus i have never played with him and he seemed good at mafia from obs last game so i am slightly wary. | ||
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On June 10 2017 07:39 Tumblewood wrote: claiming because you think you're about to die is 100% useless if you are actually blue, because when you die you flip and everyone can see your role anyway, and you had nothing new to say about rbs. or if you don't die, congratulations you outed yourself and now mafia can keep you from ever shooting. ? | ||
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On June 10 2017 07:42 Prison Break wrote: Also last game I kind of followed HF in the QT (esp with nightkills etc but also with how the game was going) and people townread me easier because it was my first game, so I don't have those 2 advantages anymore so if you had to ride or die with 1 of LS, conv, or tube who would you choose? | ||
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On June 10 2017 07:47 Tumblewood wrote: ??? no. i'm referencing the post where hf says he was 100% certain he was going to die last night. it makes sense to claim if you think you're about to get lynched, but if you think you're about to be NKed it's useless. do you think anyone on my auto list is mafia? | ||
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On June 10 2017 23:33 Conversion wrote: also ritoky what are your thoughts on you possibly being scum that HF mentioned? I can't say that's not a possibility because the way I see it, it's vig doc, vig cop, or doc cop my thoughts are that i find two town and i win the game in every circumstance. i think you and pb are likely town so i have auto and all this arguing drama is pointless. i got 5 town, we lynch the 4 outside it and voila we win, game is super fucking simple to me. | ||
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On June 10 2017 23:49 Holyflare wrote: No it doesn't seem like a good reason because if you read his night posts he votes LS and makes a case on him being mafia and then does the same for grack but then checks btdt who be now basically town reads because of emotion. they voted to lynch mafia. | ||
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On June 11 2017 00:01 Holyflare wrote: No, I absolutely think TW is mafia. But there's bits that strike me as him being not mafia-y like his willingness to interact with me, his saying sorry in spoilers. They make me have my doubts. Whike ritoky just makes a ride or die list with little reasoning that doesn't include me and afks through this after checking someone he wasn't particularly scum reading. That bugs me a lot but isn't enough to call him mafia. i could say i have the same doubts about you, how your progression today reads eerily similar to your vivax progression. how, if TW is real, that you've literally non-stop tried to lynch town all game which is exactly how palmar pointed you out last game, how you're clearly the most capable player here of making a fake claim play like this. or i can just vote on the guy who claimed to save himself then spiraled his "confirmed" town status into jack shit. and if that don't work, at least i got auto i am pretty sure. | ||
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On June 11 2017 03:25 Holyflare wrote: i mean i agree but when you say this: it's not that unlikely a lie hey look, ritoky is having an emotional response to someone yelling crappy accusations at him when he is blue, never would have expected that. /s | ||
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On June 11 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote: honestly I'm really surprised nobody has used the "hf keeps saying all these bad things about ritoky so he's setting up a mislynch for tomorrow" excuse yet wanna make a $20 bet whether tubesock says it before the lynch or not? | ||
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hope everything is okay, gonna keep my eyes on the news now D: | ||
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On June 11 2017 05:09 Tumblewood wrote: also ritoky. where are those crumbs you said you had, besides the vivax doubting one? regarding the self explanatory ones: On June 06 2017 13:03 ritoky wrote: vivax are you actually claiming for realsies? like never back down never surrender claiming? cuz i am kinda over people fake claiming and softing On June 07 2017 06:01 ritoky wrote: i don't believe vivax's claim. On June 07 2017 06:11 ritoky wrote: i am currently at fake cop and no further yet. force me to guess, i would say mafia because i don't see the town upside in the play as vt and i don't think vivax is a dumb player. i just don't see how a real cop vivax red checks the guy he was sparring with d1 and then says "red check + throw a fit" *mic drop*. doesn't cop vivax yell even louder at hf? regarding me hard defending my green check all yesterday: On June 09 2017 06:53 ritoky wrote: btdt i townread you ENTIRELY based on your emotional play to me. if you did that as mafia i am willing to lose to it, but i will not be happy with you post-game. ^ aka HEY DUDE I GREEN CHECKED YOU. regarding things i think are me softing but may be convoluted to you: On June 05 2017 04:32 ritoky wrote: wasn't palmar green checked and right all game....that shit was a travesty me talking about checks for no reason to try On June 06 2017 13:19 ritoky wrote: Well if you're mafia then just keep posting about me and I'll happily send you to obs, if by some miracle you aren't then you should go find one cuz you're barking up the wrong tree. me attempting to signal to grack that he is pushing on a blue, him not noticing or backing off or hesitating was part of the reason i kept on him. there's like 1 more probably, but these are the ones i remember where i was explicitly in the mindset of trying to signal i was the cop or defend my check. | ||
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On June 11 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote: um hello + Show Spoiler + tubesock likely town, pb likely mafia. both of them ended up hard defending one of me and hf but you've gotta go with the one defending mafia because mafia would never hedge....NEVER! | ||
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LUL, i mean clearly they weren't effective since i never got shot or rb'd, but they were obvious to me. | ||
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On June 11 2017 07:56 Tumblewood wrote: and one more thing: why the fuck do i, as mafia, claim so i can stay alive longer (because obviously i can't survive all game off a fakeclaim) and then lynch my teammate the day of the claim? completely defeats the purpose. you act like you knew it was going to land on fidei when you claimed. nope. | ||
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On June 11 2017 09:07 Holyflare wrote: Guy called me mafia. He was blatantly mafia. See you in obs in 72 hours after I am done shitting up the thread with gifs. | ||
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On June 11 2017 09:11 Holyflare wrote: You wanna know something funny though? I'm not actually the blue :D :D :D :D Gl tube I believe in you. I had you pegged as vet since about 4 hrs into the game. | ||
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On June 11 2017 09:21 Prison Break wrote: so any odds it's BTDT + ritoky now? guy legit did nothing but go "lynch TW then HF also PB is scum" then leave ![[image loading]](http://24.media.tumblr.com/b4b2b1afa493a3fcfb94427d070b7f34/tumblr_mj67sytwow1s5k8dbo1_500.gif) | ||
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by John Stuart Mill (1863) Chapter 2 What Utilitarianism Is. A PASSING remark is all that needs be given to the ignorant blunder of supposing that those who stand up for utility as the test of right and wrong, use the term in that restricted and merely colloquial sense in which utility is opposed to pleasure. An apology is due to the philosophical opponents of utilitarianism, for even the momentary appearance of confounding them with any one capable of so absurd a misconception; which is the more extraordinary, inasmuch as the contrary accusation, of referring everything to pleasure, and that too in its grossest form, is another of the common charges against utilitarianism: and, as has been pointedly remarked by an able writer, the same sort of persons, and often the very same persons, denounce the theory "as impracticably dry when the word utility precedes the word pleasure, and as too practicably voluptuous when the word pleasure precedes the word utility." Those who know anything about the matter are aware that every writer, from Epicurus to Bentham, who maintained the theory of utility, meant by it, not something to be contradistinguished from pleasure, but pleasure itself, together with exemption from pain; and instead of opposing the useful to the agreeable or the ornamental, have always declared that the useful means these, among other things. Yet the common herd, including the herd of writers, not only in newspapers and periodicals, but in books of weight and pretension, are perpetually falling into this shallow mistake. Having caught up the word utilitarian, while knowing nothing whatever about it but its sound, they habitually express by it the rejection, or the neglect, of pleasure in some of its forms; of beauty, of ornament, or of amusement. Nor is the term thus ignorantly misapplied solely in disparagement, but occasionally in compliment; as though it implied superiority to frivolity and the mere pleasures of the moment. And this perverted use is the only one in which the word is popularly known, and the one from which the new generation are acquiring their sole notion of its meaning. Those who introduced the word, but who had for many years discontinued it as a distinctive appellation, may well feel themselves called upon to resume it, if by doing so they can hope to contribute anything towards rescuing it from this utter degradation. The creed which accepts as the foundation of morals, Utility, or the Greatest Happiness Principle, holds that actions are right in proportion as they tend to promote happiness, wrong as they tend to produce the reverse of happiness. By happiness is intended pleasure, and the absence of pain; by unhappiness, pain, and the privation of pleasure. To give a clear view of the moral standard set up by the theory, much more requires to be said; in particular, what things it includes in the ideas of pain and pleasure; and to what extent this is left an open question. But these supplementary explanations do not affect the theory of life on which this theory of morality is grounded- namely, that pleasure, and freedom from pain, are the only things desirable as ends; and that all desirable things (which are as numerous in the utilitarian as in any other scheme) are desirable either for the pleasure inherent in themselves, or as means to the promotion of pleasure and the prevention of pain. Now, such a theory of life excites in many minds, and among them in some of the most estimable in feeling and purpose, inveterate dislike. To suppose that life has (as they express it) no higher end than pleasure- no better and nobler object of desire and pursuit- they designate as utterly mean and grovelling; as a doctrine worthy only of swine, to whom the followers of Epicurus were, at a very early period, contemptuously likened; and modern holders of the doctrine are occasionally made the subject of equally polite comparisons by its German, French, and English assailants. When thus attacked, the Epicureans have always answered, that it is not they, but their accusers, who represent human nature in a degrading light; since the accusation supposes human beings to be capable of no pleasures except those of which swine are capable. If this supposition were true, the charge could not be gainsaid, but would then be no longer an imputation; for if the sources of pleasure were precisely the same to human beings and to swine, the rule of life which is good enough for the one would be good enough for the other. The comparison of the Epicurean life to that of beasts is felt as degrading, precisely because a beast's pleasures do not satisfy a human being's conceptions of happiness. Human beings have faculties more elevated than the animal appetites, and when once made conscious of them, do not regard anything as happiness which does not include their gratification. I do not, indeed, consider the Epicureans to have been by any means faultless in drawing out their scheme of consequences from the utilitarian principle. To do this in any sufficient manner, many Stoic, as well as Christian elements require to be included. But there is no known Epicurean theory of life which does not assign to the pleasures of the intellect, of the feelings and imagination, and of the moral sentiments, a much higher value as pleasures than to those of mere sensation. It must be admitted, however, that utilitarian writers in general have placed the superiority of mental over bodily pleasures chiefly in the greater permanency, safety, uncostliness, etc., of the former- that is, in their circumstantial advantages rather than in their intrinsic nature. And on all these points utilitarians have fully proved their case; but they might have taken the other, and, as it may be called, higher ground, with entire consistency. It is quite compatible with the principle of utility to recognise the fact, that some kinds of pleasure are more desirable and more valuable than others. It would be absurd that while, in estimating all other things, quality is considered as well as quantity, the estimation of pleasures should be supposed to depend on quantity alone. If I am asked, what I mean by difference of quality in pleasures, or what makes one pleasure more valuable than another, merely as a pleasure, except its being greater in amount, there is but one possible answer. Of two pleasures, if there be one to which all or almost all who have experience of both give a decided preference, irrespective of any feeling of moral obligation to prefer it, that is the more desirable pleasure. If one of the two is, by those who are competently acquainted with both, placed so far above the other that they prefer it, even though knowing it to be attended with a greater amount of discontent, and would not resign it for any quantity of the other pleasure which their nature is capable of, we are justified in ascribing to the preferred enjoyment a superiority in quality, so far outweighing quantity as to render it, in comparison, of small account. | ||
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also your mechanics are all wrong about justifying why you shouldn't lynch me, but hey what the shit do i care. you guys want my check for today? i didn't get roleblocked! kitaman I KNEW IT ALL ALONG! | ||
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bro there could totally be 3 blues amirite? 2 vigis too, i am the great vigicop! | ||
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the mechanics behind it are simple, you have no confirmed town which means all players to some degree are question marks. to make the most informed decision possible you reduce the maximum number of question marks. lynching me would have reduced 1 question mark and not lost you a confirmed town. thus you should always lynch me. but hey, don't listen to the guy telling you how to play town properly. | ||
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On June 16 2017 04:50 Conversion wrote: teach me how to be 9k mmr in dota can't help ya. i wasted my college years on league where i was diamond/masters for like 3 or 4 yrs straight. then women happened. | ||
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On June 16 2017 06:36 Conversion wrote: oo nice. I quit after plat S2 cause they kept reworking heroes I played yeah, i quit because i think riot took the game in a bad direction and i got a life. i enjoy watching dota tho, the much superior spectator esport imo.....a lot of that is because the casting quality is much higher tho. | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:27 Conversion wrote: definitely agreed with riot's bad decisions on the game... they got an enormous foothold on the market so idk yeah dota's turned into a real nice spectator game. hated watching it back in dota1/early tournaments but recently it's been a blast yeah i think they lost their vision of what made their game more appealing than the alternatives...but hey what do i know, they're the professionals and i am just some dude. | ||
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sorry for playing you so hard early conv, but when some guys is over the top nice to you (as a new player) on this site which skews a bit more abrasive it usually means they have a motivation hidden behind their dagger teeth. you did pretty well all things considered though, you made yourself appear pretty unimpeachably town which is the 2nd most important part of being VT. | ||
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On June 20 2017 07:23 Tubesock wrote: GG everyone. Sorry I killed you Fidei that was super bad. I don't have any idea what I was thinking. Thank you for your help Ritoky. I think you gave me really good advice and I did try to keep true to it. I apologize for making the game way harder on you than I should have. Got hit with some things at work unexpectedly so couldn't post as much as I'd have liked. Which may or may not have helped me who knows. Thank you hosts! you did great on your own, just gotta keep that activity up. | ||
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On June 21 2017 05:31 Onegu wrote: Hate you all. I led a Day 1 lynch on Scum. Got shot N1 over HF and BH. Any you dummies still lost. killed cuz #respekt | ||
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