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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 04 2017 13:17 GMT
#18
/replace or /in
You fuckers are fast!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 05 2017 07:18 GMT
#40
Both Damdred and darthfoley were before me & Xatalos.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 05 2017 22:53 GMT
#50
/confirm then.

I am going to spend friday to monday with the love of my life. So I will probably be rping Onegu.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 05 2017 22:54 GMT
#51
My spot is up to grabs if Xatalos wants in. Or anybody else. I am qualified anyway.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 07:25 GMT
#107
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.

I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 10:09 GMT
#111
Not sure if this is important. at all.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 10:34 GMT
#124
It's ok. Don't fill pages with this shit. It's weird and plynching sicklucker is a fine thing to do if nothing happens today.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 11:23 GMT
#147
On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I.

I do it in every game I play. For years. I do it in scumgames because I do it in towngames.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 11:50 GMT
#160
On April 06 2017 20:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:23 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I.

I do it in every game I play. For years. I do it in scumgames because I do it in towngames.

Assuming you're town, why would you be content in sitting down the first 36 hours and just read?

Why wouldn't I be? I am a happy person.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 11:51 GMT
#161
##vote Calix
I don't understand her.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 11:54 GMT
#163
On April 06 2017 20:53 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:51 Koshi wrote:
##vote Calix
I don't understand her.


Then ask away.

Nha. I am fine.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 12:19 GMT
#169
On April 06 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:50 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:23 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I.

I do it in every game I play. For years. I do it in scumgames because I do it in towngames.

Assuming you're town, why would you be content in sitting down the first 36 hours and just read?

Why wouldn't I be? I am a happy person.

Well you're content with it when you're scum of course. Just reading no working is fine.

But then I might get lynched! Because I am afk the last 12 hours.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 12:22 GMT
#171
On April 06 2017 21:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:50 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:23 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I.

I do it in every game I play. For years. I do it in scumgames because I do it in towngames.

Assuming you're town, why would you be content in sitting down the first 36 hours and just read?

Why wouldn't I be? I am a happy person.

Well you're content with it when you're scum of course. Just reading no working is fine.

But then I might get lynched! Because I am afk the last 12 hours.

You get the point, don't pretend you don't.

I did. But I found it a very weak answer. But it is fine. You are more likely town over Calix.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 12:45 GMT
#174
On April 06 2017 21:26 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 21:22 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:50 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:23 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I.

I do it in every game I play. For years. I do it in scumgames because I do it in towngames.

Assuming you're town, why would you be content in sitting down the first 36 hours and just read?

Why wouldn't I be? I am a happy person.

Well you're content with it when you're scum of course. Just reading no working is fine.

But then I might get lynched! Because I am afk the last 12 hours.

You get the point, don't pretend you don't.

I did. But I found it a very weak answer. But it is fine. You are more likely town over Calix.


When you said you would only post like, 20-30 times today, did you also decide to make them 20-30 posts of one-liners with no explanations?

Am I forced to make 20 posts when I say I am going to make 20 posts?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 12:54 GMT
#177
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 12:56 GMT
#178
I am just waiting on some people that see the same things I see so I can call them town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 13:02 GMT
#182
On April 06 2017 21:56 Calix wrote:
If you don't explain your working to the rest of the class then there's no progress, my dude.

I might be the smartest kid in school, but I am no teachers pet.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 13:04 GMT
#184
On April 06 2017 22:00 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 19:34 Koshi wrote:
It's ok. Don't fill pages with this shit. It's weird and plynching sicklucker is a fine thing to do if nothing happens today.

Its weird as in what SL did or Ryan's agurement?

Well it isn't weird if sicklucker was aiming for place 4 and that it is correct he will get it with 10 points. I was living in a world in which SL thought he would get place 2 with 10 points. As rayn was explaining.

Glad to see you Shape. If you are mafia. Can you leave me alive till 1 day before lylo again? It has been a while I had that privelege.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 13:07 GMT
#185
On April 06 2017 22:03 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 22:02 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:56 Calix wrote:
If you don't explain your working to the rest of the class then there's no progress, my dude.

I might be the smartest kid in school, but I am no teachers pet.

Boring.

It's actually smart play.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 13:15 GMT
#188
On April 06 2017 22:08 Calix wrote:
It's actually better to read people by what/ how they do something, what not they think.

What a stupid statement to make. "better". Is it like that it is better to have 1.000.000.001€ than to have 1.000.000.000€?
If there is somebody who sees what I see. That person is going to be more likely town over mafia. Now sadly I already said too much and mafia might go look to replicate what I saw, but still, the original point stands. And it is a very good way to townread somebody.

Go away Calix.
Your play is not good in this conversation.
Not in your conversation with btdt.
Not in your conversation with rayn.


What are you doing?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 13:16 GMT
#189
On April 06 2017 22:14 Shapelog wrote:
Dear lord,

I need a ibuprofen after this calix/btdt page :/

Show nested quote +
Glad to see you Shape. If you are mafia. Can you leave me alive till 1 day before lylo again? It has been a while I had that privelege.

Can you confirm two people?
I want to have fun again

My memory fails me. Sry.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 13:25 GMT
#191
Apparently I only needed to play this game for a couple of hours.
Notbad.jpg
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 14:09 GMT
#199
On April 06 2017 22:39 Shapelog wrote:
Thoughts on that btw?

Also Koshi, storm mafia? Dam. was mod confirmed nerf medic, and Scott was setup confirmed dayvig, and I was mafia confirmed Dt?

I still am amazed at scott's LYLO plan lol

Oh yes. Now I understand lol
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 14:16 GMT
#200
On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:
Also Koshi,

Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made.


What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her?

The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce.

I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone.

I think she is mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 14:18 GMT
#202
On April 06 2017 23:16 sicklucker wrote:
im gonna be really shit day 1 tho im in a bad state of mind and not alot of time

Standard sicklucker play then.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 14:21 GMT
#204
Sucking up to rayn was obvious
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 14:24 GMT
#207
On April 06 2017 23:23 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:21 Koshi wrote:
Sucking up to rayn was obvious


If repeatedly asking "how is SL not making sense mafia?" and criticising Rayn for that read is 'sucking up' then calling your argument retarded is a compliment of the ages.

Pls explain.

Exactly
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 14:26 GMT
#209
I like to think town!Calix explains it once and then calls rayn out for the moron he is. Or calls him mafia.

You did something in between to stay on his good side. Well not even in between. Something different.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 14:27 GMT
#210
I dont really care calix. You are mafia for me but I have been wrong in the past.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 14:27 GMT
#211
Once or twice
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 14:29 GMT
#214
Would suck if you are mafia with Calix shape
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 14:30 GMT
#215
On April 06 2017 23:29 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:26 Koshi wrote:
I like to think town!Calix explains it once and then calls rayn out for the moron he is. Or calls him mafia.

You did something in between to stay on his good side. Well not even in between. Something different.


Oh goodie, you play a town game with me once and now you assume you know everything about my town play. The worst kind of player.

I wanted his thought process for why SL's point bullshit = mafia-indicative because as it stands, his current jump from "doesn't make sense" to "it's mafia" isn't transparent.

Maybe I am mafia. Do not forget that option!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 14:41 GMT
#222
My point has nothing to do with meta.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 14:49 GMT
#227
On April 06 2017 23:44 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:41 Koshi wrote:
My point has nothing to do with meta.

Ok,

I still dont see it. If they wanted to suck up, while not agree with ryan? And if the answer to that is because perhaps scum!Calix suspected that ryan would be scumread or sus. for that, why not go more on it?

...
...
...
Shape pls
...
...
She knows what rayn is saying is dumb shit that doesnt make sl mafia.

Now read her posts knowing that she knows that.

If you dont get it. It's ok. But I cant explain it better.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 15:52 GMT
#240
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 15:55 GMT
#245
On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote:
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls.

asdjalkdjlkjasökldjasldkj really

I was already in a tumble and calix are scum but then you do that 100% safe townread for which exact reasons?

His post on your entrance
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 16:02 GMT
#248
On April 07 2017 00:56 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 00:55 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote:
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls.

asdjalkdjlkjasökldjasldkj really

I was already in a tumble and calix are scum but then you do that 100% safe townread for which exact reasons?

His post on your entrance

How would u say that differs from calix post about it?

Again. If you believe calix her posts are pointing out problems and then pushing the game beyond those as fast as possible than that's all fine and dandy.

The difference is huge and I cba to explain it.

Clean post. Clean conclusion. Supertown.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 16:10 GMT
#250
Also I dont understand why btdt thinks Calix and tumble are mafia. But w.e.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 16:11 GMT
#251
It is confirmed. I will also have to ignore Shape.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 16:22 GMT
#254
He is. There is no way mafia does it like that.
And you all misjudge Calix her play. She saw something to whine about and did it, to fake activity and not to solve this game. That she was capable to notice bad posts to pressure is good for her.

Doesnt matter game is still young. You'll all figure it out.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 16:34 GMT
#258
If I have a real opinion on those I will let you know.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 16:58 GMT
#266
Tbh when I saw it I didnt know Calix approx. said the same things. I am looking at intent more currently.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 17:49 GMT
#286
Damn. This could be another game I am 100% correct and then town lynches me. Not sure though. I could still be horribly wrong.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 20:41 GMT
#318
Good to see that we still understand each other rayn.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 20:42 GMT
#319
Darthfoley also looks town. He just sees through only 1 eye atm.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 20:44 GMT
#320
The question is, is the other mafia afk or defending Calix?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 20:45 GMT
#321
From the first post you made you were so close shape. But you never get any closer. It is disappointing.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 20:59 GMT
#325
Oh goodie.

I'll explain the sucking up better. Btw I am on phone so that's why I am even moreincomprehensible as normal.

rayn is an vast entity as town. You prefer to not annoy him. But if he says dumb shit, you can get a 1up on him by engaging him in a conversation you cant lose as mafia. But I think that a town Calix, brave as she is, would get past his dumb shit, and solve the game, force rayn to get past his dumb shit if needed, or poke the bear and call him mafia. But she didnt. So that is why I said she was sucking up to him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 21:01 GMT
#327
It's nothing definitive obviously. But 3 of those conversations in a row were terrible. And what else has she done? And I think I also saw a mafia post somewhere.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 21:02 GMT
#328
The thread hasnt moved forward when Calix was in it. And that puzzles me.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 21:06 GMT
#329
Problem is that 2 people defended Calix. Meh. And I thought tumble looked good doing it but I might reconsider.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 21:07 GMT
#330
That being said. Tumble last game... Oh well game is still young.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 21:14 GMT
#332
I think I am done posting for a while. I'll play more at work tomorrow and then I have 96 hours of heaven. I am not sure I can access TL from heaven.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 21:20 GMT
#334
On April 07 2017 06:10 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 05:59 Koshi wrote:
Oh goodie.

I'll explain the sucking up better. Btw I am on phone so that's why I am even moreincomprehensible as normal.

rayn is an vast entity as town. You prefer to not annoy him. But if he says dumb shit, you can get a 1up on him by engaging him in a conversation you cant lose as mafia. But I think that a town Calix, brave as she is, would get past his dumb shit, and solve the game, force rayn to get past his dumb shit if needed, or poke the bear and call him mafia. But she didnt. So that is why I said she was sucking up to him.

Ah that is why. See if you explained this about ryan earlier I might of been able to piece it together lol. I'm going to reread that section.

Question tho, have they played together tho? While I know normally is good to get a one up in general (and she would too), this does have a part with it being ryan we are talking about.

Yes. They are familiar.
Read ot and imagine if there is a banana on the table and calix and rayn ars standing before it and rayns says "Well I dont know what that is but maybe it is an apple"
And calix is like:
But it is yellow, why is it an apple?
But it is long, an apple is not long..
But it isnt something round, apples are normally round.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 06 2017 21:20 GMT
#335
Last post was made for my amusement.
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Koshi
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April 06 2017 21:30 GMT
#336
Oh. Can some1 not shape explain to me how shape went from "I can vote Koshi rn" to this lame "I am sry Koshi for manupulating you" buddying attempt?
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April 07 2017 06:24 GMT
#399
Yeah. That is where I am on Calix her play. Good post rayn.

I am looking at btdt and he doesn't look too good either though. I think you should add him back to the mafia pool.
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April 07 2017 06:27 GMT
#401
On April 07 2017 15:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only reason i would add him back to null is that he seemed like he was clearly working on figuring players alignments (which i townread him for) and then he decided to throw all the town credit into trash by saying he could lynch like 7 people in the game... In other words - no progression at all.

EXACTLY!!! That post was horrible. Exactly for that post I read his filter and concluded it was too prudent.
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April 07 2017 06:30 GMT
#403
On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

This is a really weird post btw. I didn't post anything yet at this point so if my opening post was not mafia, I do not understand why she says the bolded.
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April 07 2017 06:31 GMT
#404
On April 07 2017 15:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But i am not sure if it makes him mafia.

No not really. But he is one to watch.
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April 07 2017 06:35 GMT
#407
On April 07 2017 15:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well we agree on Calix at the moment and BTDT is discussed.
What about Shapelog?

How he entered the thread made me think he was mafia with Calix. Something to do with being close to the truth, but taking the "wrong" conclusion, and when pushed towards the "correct" conclusion, being combative about it.

Problem is that I do not know for certain what right and wrong is. But this also works when right is wrong and wrong is right.
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April 07 2017 06:36 GMT
#409
On April 07 2017 15:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh yeah and Tunblewood, do you still think he's town?

Shape and Tumble are prime suspects if Calix is town. Not sure if both are mafia tbh, as they are both defended Calix and that would make no sense. But one could very easily be. Very easily.
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April 07 2017 06:37 GMT
#411
On April 07 2017 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 04:04 darthfoley wrote:
On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote:
Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT.

For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part.
On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.

Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.

I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light.

Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1.

However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either.

But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm.

I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes.

Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now.

More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean


So I stand corrected in that Shape did post some "reads" but I find this post to be so confusing for such a relatively simple read explanation. I also think it's odd that Shape says btdt is more towny than Calix but has spent a considerable amount of thread capital defending Calix imo. It just feels off. The time I lost to scum!Shapelog was when he did posts like this that were super convoluted and I lost motivation to read them after 3 sentences. That's kinda how I feel so far with his play.

A few town reads, meh scum reads (including a couple "this is weird, this is off" type sentences @ thanks ritoky for the guidance) and posts like this that are kind of semi-serious but maybe not really that seem like ez hedging opportunities later on to say "well that was just a joke" or "that was actually serious!"

On April 06 2017 23:46 Shapelog wrote:
Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again.


I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down .


In my experience, Calix is a cocky bugger no matter her alignment, so I don't know what her tone has to do with the price of eggs.

On the Flipsid3, I agree that Koshi's "clear" of Tumble is super premature imo; feels quite a bit like what he did last scum game when he "cleared" Calix very early on and then NK'd her.

I think this is one of the best posts in the thread (Shapelog part at least) and sums up my thoughts on Shapelog.

Yeah darthfoley made 2-3 good posts already and is being the best player in the game atm.
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April 07 2017 06:40 GMT
#412
On April 07 2017 15:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Where did your townread on him come from in the first place (Tumble)?

His opening post. The last sentence.
It was a good summary of what happened. But the last sentence looked so clean.
"I am not sure it makes him mafia, but he is now in my crosshairs"
something like that.

On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.

I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time.

Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy


How is that post scummy?

"I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do.

this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen
- btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise
- (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game)
- btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise)
- btdt does not push koshi
but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now

Ok it is different than what I remember. But I just liked the post when I read it. But I can be wrong on this one. I realized that quickly.
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April 07 2017 06:45 GMT
#414
On April 06 2017 23:57 beentheredonethat wrote:
So trying to get this straight:

Koshi says, Calix is scum because
* Calix has engaged in a bad conversation with me without direction
* in a bad conversation with ?? without direction
* in a bad conversation with ?? without direction

+ Show Spoiler [post in question] +
On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:
Also Koshi,

On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made.


What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her?

The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce.

I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone.

I think she is mafia.


I mean yes, I agree with the whole aggressiveness. This is what struck out to me when she called me out on not voting Koshi, it just felt super-aggressive but I can see this coming from ballsy Calix willing to get the game going. Then again the "oh misunderstanding" thing - wouldn't value that too high, it's kinda weird but town does weird things imho.

Right now I'm not down for a Calix lynch. I've heard people say that activitiy alone is not alignment indicative but right now I'm not willing to lynch a player that's actually talking.

I'm also not willing to let go of my Koshi feelings. Still feels a lot like drive-by-mafia-koshi but I'd need to actually dig through his town games and compare stuff which tbh I'm not down to right now. Maybe later but I don't think so.

I like Shape but that's gut feeling.

On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote:
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls.

asdjalkdjlkjasökldjasldkj really

I was already in a tumble and calix are scum but then you do that 100% safe townread for which exact reasons?

I also don't like the last post. It felt bad.
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April 07 2017 06:46 GMT
#416
1) It is inconsistent with his previous reads.
2) I didn't feel that at all when TW entered.
3) Why the fuck is my TW townread so important to him? He doesn't townread me.
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April 07 2017 06:54 GMT
#420
Yeah the extra smashing the keyboard out of frustration letters triggered me.
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April 07 2017 07:02 GMT
#425
On April 07 2017 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does Calix have to call out that btdt post on sl if they're both mafia?

I am not sure. It started with btdt saying he found my entrance scummy and then Calix jumping on that... And then it became something ugly. I don't think the conversation in itself was impossible to be mafia on mafia. It had odd moments.
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April 07 2017 07:06 GMT
#427
On April 07 2017 16:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 16:02 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does Calix have to call out that btdt post on sl if they're both mafia?

I am not sure. It started with btdt saying he found my entrance scummy and then Calix jumping on that... And then it became something ugly. I don't think the conversation in itself was impossible to be mafia on mafia. It had odd moments.

Well the main thing that makes it not-so-hard-to-fake is that it ends up in... nothing.

Yeah agreed, and in the middle of the conversation they already established that ending a couple times.

"Why are you going after me"
"I am not going after you, I just find you always scummy"

"You scumread me"
"I don't scumread you at all"


It was weird.
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April 07 2017 07:08 GMT
#428
And Calix wanting the abort and delete the conversation so many times. Like 3 times but btdt kept asking and she answered with a "pls leave me alone" reply.

haha. kinda funny to read.
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April 07 2017 07:09 GMT
#429
On April 06 2017 20:35 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:30 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:26 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:18 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix?


No, I don't.

But that's not the point.

You clearly think it is.

Why does it matter what I think then?

Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"?

Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in.



Yes, and if you're uncertain on something then you generally question/ pressure that person so they clarify the issue. I am wondering why you wouldn't want to push Koshi when your posts were going in that direction and I'm still not sure what the hesitation is for.

I am not 'going after you' either, actually. I generally find you scummy so I am trying not to jump down your throat here, lol.

And how am I supposed to question Koshi on his, like, three posts? I've pointed out what I didn't like, and depending on his reaction to that, I'll continue to go after him or not.

Why are you scumreading me for going after something I find scummy?


Pretty simple. You just ask basic shit like "why did you decide to announce this playstyle after you got your role?" (as an example) and go from there.

Where did I say I was scum-reading you? I said "I generally find you scummy" which is not the same thing. And the entire conversation we're having is that you AREN'T going after something you find scummy O_o

You're not making much sense.

Wait, so "It's worth a push" does mean "I will vote Koshi now" in your understanding, but you ask me to differentiate between "I find you scummy" and "I am scum-reading you"?

The conversation we have is about what it is because you chose to pressure me about why I am not voting Koshi instead of simply reviewing what I said and commenting on it. You're, again, constructing shit to push me.


"I find you GENERALLY scummy" is what I said.

Found the problem. You're misinterpreting that as me specifically finding you scummy in this game when I was trying to say that I find your playstyle scummy.

I hope that clears things up.

On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.

Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.

On April 06 2017 21:05 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.

Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.

Am I dumb or scummy?


Since we established where the problem was, dumb

On April 06 2017 21:23 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 21:15 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:05 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.

Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.

Am I dumb or scummy?


Since we established where the problem was, dumb

But what changed your stance on me then? I mean you said you find me scummy and I thought it's because I say "pushworthy" while not voting Koshi. What made you dropping that?


I thought we already covered that I was talking about your play-style.

You said "I didn't want to vote on something push-worthy 3 hours into the game" and that you weren't sure how to question his initial posts so I did not see the point of questioning you further when that would distract you from scum-hunting Koshi.

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April 07 2017 07:16 GMT
#432
I also don't know the word but yeah... she is different.
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April 07 2017 08:32 GMT
#448
On April 07 2017 17:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 17:10 sicklucker wrote:
Sicklucker
Tumbleweed
calix
koshi
Darthfoley
Rayn
shapelog
beentheredonethat
rels




No.

beentheredone
raynpelikoneet
Darthfoley
Calix
Koshi
shapelog
Sicklucker

rels


On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote:
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls.

asdjalkdjlkjasökldjasldkj really

I was already in a tumble and calix are scum but then you do that 100% safe townread for which exact reasons?

What happened?
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April 07 2017 08:34 GMT
#449
That Calix read makes no fucking sense what so ever btdt. You townread darth for scumreading Calix. You are "scumreading" Calix 24/7. And now she is perfect null? Perfect null???????
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April 07 2017 08:43 GMT
#462
I think btdt his list is so much worse.

He wanted to lynch so many people yesterday, now there are 2 full greens.
He was on TW and Calix yesterday. Now one is missing and one is perfect null.
If he went 100% green on rayn from yesterday to now, why is he not 100% green on me? What did I do wrong in the conversation I had with rayn? Because he townreads rayn for that conversation, but scumreads me?

etc
etc

Like... That is one fucking bad list.
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April 07 2017 08:45 GMT
#466
On April 07 2017 17:45 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 17:43 Koshi wrote:
I think btdt his list is so much worse.

He wanted to lynch so many people yesterday, now there are 2 full greens.
He was on TW and Calix yesterday. Now one is missing and one is perfect null.
If he went 100% green on rayn from yesterday to now, why is he not 100% green on me? What did I do wrong in the conversation I had with rayn? Because he townreads rayn for that conversation, but scumreads me?

etc
etc

Like... That is one fucking bad list.


ya can we like lynch my target?

I dont think my target has ever been lynched once dispite me being right most of the time. Maybe that one time on super

We could. But in the Calix/btdt exchange I liked btdt more.
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April 07 2017 08:46 GMT
#468
On April 07 2017 17:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like why the fuck would you, if you think i am just doing some dumb shit (possibly) just for the sake of doing dumb shit do this:
"Well you're wrong again dude so staph" instead of "why the fuck are you doing this? are you scum?"

You literally deserve -912873 points if you did that as town.

He once got 50 points for harddefending a mafia all game and calling me retarded & shit while I was on both mafia D2.
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April 07 2017 08:57 GMT
#479
Could you and btdt please talk about what rayn & I talked about? Shape, btdt and Calix.
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April 07 2017 09:18 GMT
#486
If Rels is town it might be a good way to set us up for day 2. But I am not convinced it is the most likely mafia hit out of the pool. Always a good lynch though.
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April 07 2017 09:33 GMT
#491
On April 07 2017 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 17:53 sicklucker wrote:
like I was so fucking townie what choice did you have. but now your going crazy again. honestly your so random. Im a very random mafia player myself so I kind of see that as possible mafia playz

Koshi you seriously think this is what sicklucker thinks of me as when i am mafia?

sicklucker is sicklucker. Do not apply logic.
Read the people on which you can actually apply logic. And then bother with sicklucker.

I am telling you. I was 100% convinced on 2 mafia reads last game, and the guy (sicklucker) made me so mad I removed a certain mafia read and mafia read him instead. Then he claimed doctor DURING the night. Still didn't get shot ofc.

And then endgame received 50 points.
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April 07 2017 09:34 GMT
#492
I am not saying he is not mafia though. But what the fuck are Calix and btdt doing? Shape is also still mehish for me.
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April 07 2017 09:37 GMT
#494
On April 07 2017 18:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's jsut remove him then for a better game if you think so because i am not changing my vote.

No. I won't.
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April 07 2017 09:41 GMT
#498
The only thing that proves is that he is bad at mafia.
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April 07 2017 09:45 GMT
#500
On April 07 2017 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 18:37 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 18:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's jsut remove him then for a better game if you think so because i am not changing my vote.

No. I won't.

well at least i am voting for mafia.

Maybe. The dumb shit doesn't make him mafia. Having an useless filter doesn't make him mafia.
Nha. I am ok with sl atm.
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April 07 2017 09:48 GMT
#502
beentheredonethat
Cali
x
Shape
Sicklucker
Tumblewood

##Unvote
##Vote beentheredonethat
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April 07 2017 09:49 GMT
#505
On April 07 2017 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 18:45 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 07 2017 18:37 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 18:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's jsut remove him then for a better game if you think so because i am not changing my vote.

No. I won't.

well at least i am voting for mafia.

Maybe. The dumb shit doesn't make him mafia. Having an useless filter doesn't make him mafia.
Nha. I am ok with sl atm.

hopefully you'll get 1/6 right then. goodluck.
i can help, just not with vote.

Before I leave for 96 hours. I will let you know if I want you to not vote sicklucker. Please don't go for him if I ask.
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April 07 2017 09:50 GMT
#506
On April 07 2017 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you're gonna be wrong here

Meh. We will see. I am not as definite as you are.
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April 07 2017 09:52 GMT
#508
On April 07 2017 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No Koshi, he is just town.

You think that cuz you live in a world in which sl is mafia.
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April 07 2017 10:16 GMT
#531
On April 07 2017 19:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
Regarding Koshi's vote on me: I think Koshi is interpreting way too much into my asdasdkjlkajsdlkasjdl thing. It shouldn't, especially in light of everything else I do, justify a vote.

You are defending the wrong reasons for my vote on you.
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April 07 2017 10:18 GMT
#536
I am also interested in how you went from Calix meh (after your conversation) to Calix 100% scum (assdsa post) to Calix is perfect null.
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April 07 2017 10:19 GMT
#539
On April 07 2017 19:17 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 18:33 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 07 2017 17:53 sicklucker wrote:
like I was so fucking townie what choice did you have. but now your going crazy again. honestly your so random. Im a very random mafia player myself so I kind of see that as possible mafia playz

Koshi you seriously think this is what sicklucker thinks of me as when i am mafia?

sicklucker is sicklucker. Do not apply logic.
Read the people on which you can actually apply logic. And then bother with sicklucker.

I am telling you. I was 100% convinced on 2 mafia reads last game, and the guy (sicklucker) made me so mad I removed a certain mafia read and mafia read him instead. Then he claimed doctor DURING the night. Still didn't get shot ofc.

And then endgame received 50 points.


.... thats not even close to what happened I thought you were shit talking another game

That is exactly what happened.
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April 07 2017 10:20 GMT
#540
On April 07 2017 19:18 sicklucker wrote:
and if im second mvp whats that say about the skill of the acual mvp of that game

It says a lot about the people under the mvp. If it says anything about the mvp it is that he had done A LOT of work.
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April 07 2017 10:22 GMT
#548
On April 07 2017 19:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 07 2017 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
beentheredonethat where does your read go from town -> scum on Calix?

On April 07 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Could you answer with quoting the posts / explaining it fully from the beginning (the read progression) so i don't have to guess what happenings in the game you are talking about.


Whew. That's a lot. So first of all, Calix went after me pretty harshly, seemingly about "Why are you not voting although you claim it's pushworthy?". I felt like this was a rather constructed thing, given it was the very beginning of D1 and people were still entering the thread.

However, I felt she was going after me relentlessly which per se is not scum indicative but already felt weird - it's like "hey it's D1 and you're going harshly after me for some weird reasons that are just weak". So I started to think she's mafia, trying to get into the thread without getting called out on it (which in this case would've been a success). What really bugged me then though was the drop-off of me, claiming a misunderstanding. Also, the semantics thing that I pointed out early was weird - calling me out on "you say it's pushworthy but don't push", and then claiming "I don't scumread you, I think you're scummy" (i dont get the point of this anyway).

I can see this coming from a town!Calix but I can also see it from a scum!Calix and I tend to weigh towards scum in here.


Then why did she go from "I am going to call it a day and call Calix and Tumble the mafia team" to "Calix is perfect null". WITHOUT Calix posting.
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April 07 2017 10:23 GMT
#550
On April 07 2017 19:22 sicklucker wrote:
like im acualy close to quitting this game all you guys do is bring up past games where I played pretty decent tbh in a negative manner like fuck you. I got multiple doctor saves and murdered mafai that game? like wtf fuck you

haha. I am partly joking. You did hammervote 2 mafia and saved me during night.
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April 07 2017 10:24 GMT
#551
It's good I can annoy you, you annoy me a lot as well without reason (see that game)
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April 07 2017 10:25 GMT
#555
On April 07 2017 19:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:18 Koshi wrote:
I am also interested in how you went from Calix meh (after your conversation) to Calix 100% scum (assdsa post) to Calix is perfect null.


Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 18:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 17:10 sicklucker wrote:
Sicklucker
Tumbleweed
calix
koshi
Darthfoley
Rayn
shapelog
beentheredonethat
rels




No.

beentheredone
raynpelikoneet
Darthfoley
Rels
Calix
Dumbleweed
Koshi
shapelog
Sicklucker


That should be complete, or am I still forgetting someone

She's pretty close to my scum pile, isn't she.

SHE IS CLOSER TO YOURSELF THAN YOUR BIGGEST SCUMREAD.

And it is fucking bullshit that you have 4 people with 1 red letter but 2 people full green. That doesn't add up. And you are a tunneler and a decent scumhunter. So your play is fucking weird atm.
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April 07 2017 10:29 GMT
#558
On April 07 2017 19:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:22 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 07 2017 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
beentheredonethat where does your read go from town -> scum on Calix?

On April 07 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Could you answer with quoting the posts / explaining it fully from the beginning (the read progression) so i don't have to guess what happenings in the game you are talking about.


Whew. That's a lot. So first of all, Calix went after me pretty harshly, seemingly about "Why are you not voting although you claim it's pushworthy?". I felt like this was a rather constructed thing, given it was the very beginning of D1 and people were still entering the thread.

However, I felt she was going after me relentlessly which per se is not scum indicative but already felt weird - it's like "hey it's D1 and you're going harshly after me for some weird reasons that are just weak". So I started to think she's mafia, trying to get into the thread without getting called out on it (which in this case would've been a success). What really bugged me then though was the drop-off of me, claiming a misunderstanding. Also, the semantics thing that I pointed out early was weird - calling me out on "you say it's pushworthy but don't push", and then claiming "I don't scumread you, I think you're scummy" (i dont get the point of this anyway).

I can see this coming from a town!Calix but I can also see it from a scum!Calix and I tend to weigh towards scum in here.


Then why did she go from "I am going to call it a day and call Calix and Tumble the mafia team" to "Calix is perfect null". WITHOUT Calix posting.

I think you're weighing too much on the list post null but I can understand this. Hmm I think my Calix read simply changed because yesterday, I was content with the result of the conversation but I obviously reealuated at some point.

I don't see how this read change is a big reason to vote me though. Especially since you're voting with sicklucker who you are fighting with currently. But yeah your choice

I am not fighting with sicklucker. I am having fun with him. It has nothing to do with this game. I think sicklucker is null and I have said that multiple times. Try to not say incorrect things please. That annoys me.

Again. Why can't you find mafia this game? And don't give me the "I have no time" "I am not invested as I should be" etc because that are the feelings you have as mafia. And not as town.
Why can't you find mafia? Or why are you not letting us help you find mafia? All these things.
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April 07 2017 10:30 GMT
#559
On April 07 2017 19:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:25 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:18 Koshi wrote:
I am also interested in how you went from Calix meh (after your conversation) to Calix 100% scum (assdsa post) to Calix is perfect null.


On April 07 2017 18:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 17:10 sicklucker wrote:
Sicklucker
Tumbleweed
calix
koshi
Darthfoley
Rayn
shapelog
beentheredonethat
rels




No.

beentheredone
raynpelikoneet
Darthfoley
Rels
Calix
Dumbleweed
Koshi
shapelog
Sicklucker


That should be complete, or am I still forgetting someone

She's pretty close to my scum pile, isn't she.

SHE IS CLOSER TO YOURSELF THAN YOUR BIGGEST SCUMREAD.

And it is fucking bullshit that you have 4 people with 1 red letter but 2 people full green. That doesn't add up. And you are a tunneler and a decent scumhunter. So your play is fucking weird atm.

me
someone else
someone else
calix
the guy I vote for (ie. my biggest scumread)

not sure how Calix is closer to me in your perception there but you'll have a reason for it. I actually regret posting that list now.

See. That is what I mean. I have 1 red letter. And you are as m33k towards me like a little puppy. And I have as scummy as the person you are voting for.

Nothing adds up with you this game. Nothing.
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April 07 2017 10:31 GMT
#560
I can blatantly lie and push that lie to scumread you and you defend against the lie...
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April 07 2017 10:33 GMT
#563
On April 07 2017 19:32 sicklucker wrote:
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D

town!Calix her conversation with a mafia!btdt MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
You somewhat know who Calix is right? meta?
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April 07 2017 10:35 GMT
#566
Calix her conversations are all way to static. Way to fucking static. When she is onto something and actually interested in what she is engaging about she jumps fast. Tries to identify that person his alignment.

This game was summed up perfectly with the banana example. She is just giving arguments without moving towards an answer.
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April 07 2017 10:36 GMT
#573
On April 07 2017 19:35 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:33 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:32 sicklucker wrote:
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D

town!Calix her conversation with a mafia!btdt MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
You somewhat know who Calix is right? meta?


no? looked townie unless shes a notorious busser

How? How? How the fuck did she buss btdt if she 2 times within 4 posts denieing for "going after him" and "scumreading him" and then in the next 5 posts tries to end the conversation 4 times?

Are you for fucking real?
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April 07 2017 10:37 GMT
#575
denieing for = denies
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April 07 2017 10:40 GMT
#582
On April 07 2017 19:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:36 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:35 sicklucker wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:33 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:32 sicklucker wrote:
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D

town!Calix her conversation with a mafia!btdt MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
You somewhat know who Calix is right? meta?


no? looked townie unless shes a notorious busser

How? How? How the fuck did she buss btdt if she 2 times within 4 posts denieing for "going after him" and "scumreading him" and then in the next 5 posts tries to end the conversation 4 times?

Are you for fucking real?

Exactly this, Koshi.

Koshi's behaviour, his push on me and also this post let's me think he's town. This doesn't feel like drive-by scum-Koshi that I am used to from hosting and playing.

If you think I am town now.

Start looking into Calix more. I need you to have a strong stance on her. Well documented. Well argumantated.
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Koshi
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April 07 2017 10:40 GMT
#584
##unvote
##vote Calix


Not a big fan of btdt but we will see.
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April 07 2017 10:43 GMT
#588
On April 07 2017 19:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:40 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:36 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:35 sicklucker wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:33 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:32 sicklucker wrote:
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D

town!Calix her conversation with a mafia!btdt MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
You somewhat know who Calix is right? meta?


no? looked townie unless shes a notorious busser

How? How? How the fuck did she buss btdt if she 2 times within 4 posts denieing for "going after him" and "scumreading him" and then in the next 5 posts tries to end the conversation 4 times?

Are you for fucking real?

Exactly this, Koshi.

Koshi's behaviour, his push on me and also this post let's me think he's town. This doesn't feel like drive-by scum-Koshi that I am used to from hosting and playing.

If you think I am town now.

Start looking into Calix more. I need you to have a strong stance on her. Well documented. Well argumantated.

I can't deliver that right now.The status quo of Calix is what happened yesterday, and I'd say it's a scumlean on her right now. It's not enough for me to join a wagon over tumble.

Also I dislike how my points on tumble just got completely under the radar, would love if you guys could pick them up, too.

Because we need to grill you first and then maybe accept your points. I am looking in your filter now.
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April 07 2017 10:50 GMT
#592
On April 07 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
The whole sicklucker Rayn argument is getting out of hand, all the while everyone else gets away with doing nothing, specifically speaking of Tumblewood. Why is this added in this post. Such a bad start bro. It shows you are refreshing the game but you can't join the conversation, and in the mean time you are typing up a big post and that is something mafia prefers to do. There is also nothing on rayn or sicklucker that helps the thread here

Like, what is Tumble even doing?

* starts the game with seven posts which are absolutely irrelevant banter NAI
* puts up three posts that have somewhat of game relevance (but then, no follow up, so that renders his questions pointless) I dislike your interpretation of those posts
* enters thread again, claims a mind meld, drops a townread for that on calix NAI
* his mind meld is scumreading me for exactly what Calix said, pretty much following thread sentiment Not true at all. Thread sentiment was against Calix
* BUT ends up calling me bad town So what?
* one more townread on ShapeNAI
* claims to have done "meta research" on Rels pregame, votes Rels Did he? lol. NAI though
* more vague stuff ("spidey senses", some more blabla) spidey senses are town or he is lieing. NAI

This is at least my perception of what Tumble is doing so far. My observations. I can see the initial banter coming from town or from at least a certain level of "I don't care how I look". But that does not align with the "I prepared for Rels pregame" thing. Why would you banter if you even took the time and prepared (assuming he's town, of course) for a game? You should be more afraid of being scumread, right? I don't understand

Next action, the famous "Calix is town and btdt is bad town" stuff. Claims to have a mind meld with Calix there but note the difference in the "bad town" timing that he and Calix have. It might very well be that Tumble simply followed thread sentiment, did some drive by posting, and then realized "ohshit, Calix ain't hard scumreading btdt". So he backed off of judging the Calix/btdt interaction, as everyone else did. I disagree

His townread on Shape is unexplained. But that's not alignment indicative. Nevertheless, it's always easier to say "uh this guy's probably town" as scum then committing to a real push. Decent point

Now to the interesting stuff. The pregame research on Rels. I have a hard time believeing that. Why?
1. The game was posted rather spontanously.
2. The game filled up really, really fast.
3. Why would you research on someone's meta in such a short period of time when you cannot possibly know whether you're rolling town or scum?
4. Why claim that research? Obviously, to gain town creds. "Uh, damn, I did something and it's useless because the guy is not there. Let's vote him!" I agree with everything you say here. But why would mafia create such a stupid lie?... Just so random.

The vote on Rels in combination with three(!) townreads and a weird "I prepared" post really let's me think Tumble is mafia, trying to pile on a afk player (i.e. low hanging mislynch fruit for scum). When having only townreads, voting an afker is not the worst decision

Summary: Tumble has done nothing thus far, he has not contributed any original thoughts, he parked his vote on an AFK person which he claims to have specifically prepared for. I think this is a highly scum-indicative behaviour. Or trash town behavior. Like... Why is it mafia behavior. He is not looking good at all.


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April 07 2017 10:51 GMT
#594
On April 07 2017 19:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In this post:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix?


No, I don't.

But that's not the point.

You clearly think it is.

Why does it matter what I think then?

Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"?

Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in.



Yup. I flagged that sentence as well. It was soooooooo fucking weird.
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April 07 2017 10:53 GMT
#598
On April 07 2017 19:52 sicklucker wrote:
koshi why did you change your vote. this guys mafia or hes not real life

haha I don't know. Defuse him a bit.
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April 07 2017 10:58 GMT
#605
On April 07 2017 19:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay okay. btdt is probably mafia.

Good we added him back in the pool this morning
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April 07 2017 11:00 GMT
#606
On April 07 2017 19:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
ok. We've reached a point where any continues discussion with me is not bringing the thread any further. Rayn, Koshi, sicklucker are all scumreading me and I've tried my best to explain what I did and why I did it.

So just lynch me, enjoy my VT flip, and continue the game without my apparently bad contributions.

It is our right to do so. Also, how you interact with us shows me you see us all 3 as "equals". While sl and I were scumreads. Now you already flipped on me (which is nai) but why also sl?

Anyway you don't have to defend constantly.

Problem is Calix and Shape are not here. And Rels is afk again.
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April 07 2017 11:03 GMT
#610
On April 07 2017 20:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i liked all the green stuff you pointed out koshi but what struck me was the... well let me quote it word to word.
"Now to the interesting stuff....
wrote exactly 267 words and ~170 we get into the interesting stuff.....
yeahhhh...

Porbably because the 170 words before that he was reaching. And just like Calix arguing about unexplainable stuff is easier and cleaner.

meh. Shape still worries me.
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April 07 2017 11:05 GMT
#611
hopefully df makes another great set of posts soon.
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April 07 2017 11:08 GMT
#620
On April 07 2017 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker and Calix.

btdt/shape is what worries me atm.
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April 07 2017 11:11 GMT
#623
On April 07 2017 20:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm rather serious. I'm already not enjoying this game and it won't be better. It feels like whatever I say to explain stuff, all you guys do is put more questions. You kinda want to scumread me at that point. Maybe you should back off the thread and re-read me without the heat of the discussion, especially the last 5-6 pages of the thread. But then again, that's up to you.

That's the game bro. You were attacking me a lot when I was mafia in DotA 2.
atm we are attacking you because we consider you as mafia.

I also disliked getting attacked as town. Now I am more ok with. Something to do with being bad handling criticism and thinking that your play doesn't deserve criticism.

Anyway. We will see.
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April 07 2017 11:13 GMT
#626
On April 07 2017 20:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi let's get this thing straight, he is not mafia.

I am waiting on DF his opinion. It is very possible he is not mafia. But I am not definitive yet.
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April 07 2017 11:15 GMT
#627
On April 07 2017 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why even pretend? There is no reason to.

I still have game reasons to think he is mafia. But yeah, his emotions say town.
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April 07 2017 11:20 GMT
#631
tumble/sicklucker is not the worst team.

- Both townread Calix for some reason.
- Shape read the Calix/btdt engagement tvt

So if those 2 are mafia town ate themselves up, which they always do.
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April 07 2017 11:26 GMT
#633
True.
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April 07 2017 11:27 GMT
#635
On April 06 2017 20:51 Koshi wrote:
##vote Calix
I don't understand her.

On April 06 2017 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Would suck if you are mafia with Calix shape


I am running with this then.
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April 07 2017 13:40 GMT
#644
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April 07 2017 14:52 GMT
#651
3 more hours and I go to heaven. If you want to talk, that's how much you have left.
Minus the next 30 minutes I am traveling home.
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April 07 2017 15:32 GMT
#653
oh wow new HS expansion is out. Right before I go to heaven. Evul.
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April 07 2017 17:01 GMT
#666
Dont be so negative btdt. This game has good players. We figure shit out.
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April 07 2017 17:10 GMT
#670
1 hour. and then I will be gone for 96 hours. I am not kidding about that one btw.
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April 07 2017 17:19 GMT
#675
No Shape. That is not what that means.

Just got a message she will be here in 35 mins. And I thought I had 1 hour. So now I have -15 minutes to get ready. So bye bye. w00t.
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April 07 2017 17:19 GMT
#676
I say lynch Calix.
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April 07 2017 17:19 GMT
#677
I am not sure who to lynch secondly. Maybe Rels I guess.
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April 07 2017 17:20 GMT
#678
hahaha. Sorry no. Shape ofcourse. Lynch Shape. I am 100% on that second read.

First Calix
Second Shape.
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April 09 2017 20:07 GMT
#974
##Vote Shapelog
For epeen
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April 10 2017 20:57 GMT
#1030
Time to become Christian bois. Heaven is pretty good.

Shapelog is a good lynch. If he isn't mafia we have a couple more tries. And I am going to be alive for 2 more days so that is pretty nice. Siclucker + rayn confirmed town.

The most mafia thing Shape did today was attack df a bit I think. Dnu.
The weirdest thing he did was say rayn could still be mafia. Which is weird if the docsave of sl is correct. As mafia you should know that and rayn is already confirmed, but then again. As town as well. Unless rayn decided to no kill I guess.
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April 10 2017 21:01 GMT
#1031
Sad I wont be awake for deadline.
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April 11 2017 10:34 GMT
#1059
Next stop. Rels.
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April 11 2017 11:51 GMT
#1065
Eeuhm. I played super active and I was the catalysator of the Calix lynch. I identified she was mafia before you people had a clue, pushed her, and told you why she was mafia. Multiple times, over multiple pages.

The sucking up to rayn was legit.

I only didn't play at night & D2. And I was able to lurk there a bit because you guys were slow as fuck. But it doesn't matter, I was 100% ok with the Shape lynch.


It is not my job to make this game anymore. I already earned MVP for the Calix push D1. But due to having it already I will let you people fight for it. If you think I should be lynched... Sure thing. Townies literally cannot play better than I did in the first 42 hours I was in the game. So go lynch me and proof you are all worthless.

I gave you 1 mafia. Go find the second. If I am still in your PoE for some reason go find a head doctor.
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April 11 2017 12:00 GMT
#1073
I do not know why Rels is not the lynch tomorrow.

Sicklucker is obviously doctor, or he did an insane play to secure him lylo. In this game mafia doesn't know the setup, so if this is a vt setup he gambled on that and then gambled on not being coutnerclaimed???? Are you all dense or am I wrong about the setup? I didn't read the op.

rayn can't be mafia because while I threw the ball, he made the alley hoop. or w.e that is called. And then during night he decides to not kill anybody while he isn't sure there is a doc so he might get docsaved and then be confirmed? Even more confirmed than he already is??? Are you fuckers for real?

So everybody should have at least 3 superconfirmed townies himself included.


Who is left for me:
Rels
Tumble
btdt
df

For me the obvious choice is Rels. Didn't do shit, and just gained cred when it was cool. Go lynch that fucker.
Darthfoley played well if he is mafia. Cherry picked what he posted and made them incredible.
Tumble most likely is town. Read rayn his posts on why. He is just playing like he always plays. Weird or not understandable does NOT equal scum. Not now, not ever.
btdt is possibly mafia due to interactions with Calix and bad posts. But he is not mafia due to activity and emotions. So he is not mafia and should not be considered in the next 2 lynches. Or do we lose after 3ml? I don't know.


So lynch Rels
Then look at how clean dartholey is
Then look at how messed up Tumble and btdt are and pick one in lylo. Hopefully I am there and not sicklucker.



Also protip to btdt and tumble: Stop calling each other mafia because you don't understand the other person his playstyle. It's dumb.
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April 11 2017 12:03 GMT
#1074
Also. I might come over arrogant but I am just saying as I think it is and that's it. The arrogant part is just to show me how confident I am atm. And has nothing to do with trying to make you feel bad about yourself.
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April 11 2017 12:07 GMT
#1075
On April 09 2017 02:02 Shapelog wrote:
About Rels,

I dont like the fact he came in and voted calix without really and explanation other then him being where ryan was. I felt honestly he was more focused on me and tumble each (his other scumreads) then what was actually going on with calix. I know there was a small conversation a page back on how scum!rels might voted in regards of calix being scum. I personally think scum!rels would vote calix there instead of saving her because she was MIA. Why stick out and not vote her when it could cause sus. to come on her.

Another thing is the SL read. I first i actually thought this put to ease my sus. as scum!rels needs to keep the scum pool more open since he needs 3 ML's and what better to do that through ryan. Ryan is after-all seen as town my the majority of people, and could be talked into it if needed. But he didnt, which i first thought was town. But then I reread it and saw something:
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On April 08 2017 06:38 Rels wrote:
rayn. About SL. He feels town. He focused on himself and he's not hiding it, and he's focused on his read on you because of it. It doesn't add anything for him as scum. It's not good looking for him. It wastes time that is all. But he's doing it anyway. I think he's town for that.
Like his posts when he come back to the thread after leaving is focused on that:
On April 07 2017 14:21 sicklucker wrote:
On April 07 2017 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
(Wiki)
On April 07 2017 06:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm fine with Rels, Tumble, Shape, Calix, Koshi lynches apparently

and also Rayn

lol I don't have townreads apparently

I am curious though, why is sicklucker town?


why am i mafia. hell you know I wanted to answer something but your posts through page 10 were so bad about me and completely random and wrong


On April 07 2017 14:23 sicklucker wrote:
once again ryan you seem to have tunneled on something completely null and pointless to the game which im ignoring because I believe its completely null and pointless to the game and that makes you think im mafia.

Even if you think im mafia im not a day 1 player and if you lynch me day 1 again after saying you dont want to mislynch me trololo. I acualy kind of want this to happen

and he knows he cannot out arguee you. I think I remember him saying you're the player he fears the most, he said that like one year ago. Doesn'et make sense to try to ou targuee you. Especially since he's not lynched. And he is not trying to change the lynch either. He's mainly talking about your read on him.

This argument is fine for sl being town but do note what i bolded. Rel's reasoning for tr SL is due to his focus on himself and such. Then this happens a few posts later:
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On April 08 2017 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
shapelog is just the best lynch here by far. he can totally be with calix hell it even makes alot of sense. but if you guys lynch calix first you might do something stupid like lynch tumbleweed

so Saltshaker starts trying to move the lynch (something im going to check out eventually) onto me and off of calix. Now, imo this should cause his read to progress or at least be reconsidered as this is something that does go against this reasoning for why SL is town. however, in response to ryans question about sl in general:
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His posts during the night haven't changed my mind. I think he's town based on his lack of mindset. But he'"s not lock town.

This bothers me because ryan did mention his stance towards the lynching, which I would expect rels to react to with his read. I don't see how that doesn't cause anything to go off in rel's mind if he believes the reasons to tr sl off based off that post. Which suggests he isnt really reading and figure out things.

Maybe the SL thing isn't strong but i dont like how he came in her and just voted calix, picked around with me and tumble, and peace. I feel like town!rels would post or mention more then just being really condense down and focused on certain people while not even mentioning others.

Thoughts?


I read Shape his filter and this was fucking gold.
wp Shape.
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April 11 2017 12:07 GMT
#1077
That is a legit case. Really well written.
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April 11 2017 12:11 GMT
#1080
On April 11 2017 21:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
okay, fine.

just remember that everyone was confident in Shape flipping scum and we wasted 48 hours on a lynch that brought us nothing. We're down to guessing right now because there's one scum left and we have almost no interactions from Calix, so all we have is voting.

That means we'll guess between (Shape), Rels, Tumble and me, given that sicklucker claimed doc. So you can pack your reads in a beautiful rose box which says "meta read" or whatever but I think Tumble looks the scummiest out of Rels and Tumble.

I'll vote Rels, okay, and I'll be glad if we win and I'll eat the "see, btdt, we were right and you were wrong" posts but I'm rather sure we're about to lynch another townie.

Well. We (the confirmed people) don't have to create new content to solve the game. It is on the not confirmed people to make content so the confirmed people can decide who is mafia.

HOWEVER, I couldn't post yesterday so I cba to make a play, but yeah... confirmed people have the power as well to mix things up and find mafia. And in an ideal world they should do that but w.e.

Town has time. We can ml tomorrow as well and then play. I still don't know how many ml we have left but I am fine lynching baddies + potential mafia till it is lylo atm.
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April 11 2017 12:13 GMT
#1082
On April 11 2017 21:11 sicklucker wrote:
bleh i didnt think shape was gonna flip scum. No way it was changing tho

rip correct vote %
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April 11 2017 12:21 GMT
#1083
Also sicklucker do not docsave me tonight. Do it tomorrow.
mafia kills you or rayn but tomorrow we can force them to kill you if they didn't tonight.
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April 11 2017 12:23 GMT
#1084
If anybody can confirm mafia do not know the setup that would be nice. I am looking at you Rels.
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April 11 2017 12:31 GMT
#1087
Yeah I thought so as well. So it is impossible rayn is mafia. You could still be mafia though. In some INSANE world. It's fine. The chance is 0,1%
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April 11 2017 12:58 GMT
#1089
I got German lessons for the next 2 hours. But I did help some after I made that post. I was slightly annoyed by the lack of progress and the continuous repeating there is still mafia in Koshi/rayn/sicklucker. Like more than 1%.

And then everybody should have himself as townread so I don't understand the problem atm. Just lynch and win.
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April 11 2017 13:00 GMT
#1090
Just make sure your last posts give a clear direction for tomorrow rayn.

Rels/Tumble/btdt/df

And if you have time and didn't already do it. (I didn't read the previous 100 hours carefully yet), can you give me your opinion on how likely it is df is brilliant mafia that just made a couple but really good quality posts.
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April 11 2017 15:08 GMT
#1096
It is true what you say but I think Rels just made the correct play to survive. Calix was made.
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April 11 2017 16:42 GMT
#1102
On April 12 2017 01:36 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 21:00 Koshi wrote:
I do not know why Rels is not the lynch tomorrow.

Sicklucker is obviously doctor, or he did an insane play to secure him lylo. In this game mafia doesn't know the setup, so if this is a vt setup he gambled on that and then gambled on not being coutnerclaimed???? Are you all dense or am I wrong about the setup? I didn't read the op.

rayn can't be mafia because while I threw the ball, he made the alley hoop. or w.e that is called. And then during night he decides to not kill anybody while he isn't sure there is a doc so he might get docsaved and then be confirmed? Even more confirmed than he already is??? Are you fuckers for real?

So everybody should have at least 3 superconfirmed townies himself included.


Who is left for me:
Rels
Tumble
btdt
df

For me the obvious choice is Rels. Didn't do shit, and just gained cred when it was cool. Go lynch that fucker.
Darthfoley played well if he is mafia. Cherry picked what he posted and made them incredible.
Tumble most likely is town. Read rayn his posts on why. He is just playing like he always plays. Weird or not understandable does NOT equal scum. Not now, not ever.
btdt is possibly mafia due to interactions with Calix and bad posts. But he is not mafia due to activity and emotions. So he is not mafia and should not be considered in the next 2 lynches. Or do we lose after 3ml? I don't know.


So lynch Rels
Then look at how clean dartholey is
Then look at how messed up Tumble and btdt are and pick one in lylo. Hopefully I am there and not sicklucker.



Also protip to btdt and tumble: Stop calling each other mafia because you don't understand the other person his playstyle. It's dumb.


My only qualm as to why Rels isn't mafia is the fact that rayn was the NK target. Like why would Rels target rayn if he's hardcore defending him. It would've made more sense to kill you or me

cuz rayn can figure shit out. I noticed last game. It took him till D4 but it happened
I think rayn is an OK night kill for Rels to make. Especially because Rels maybe not have seen me play. Because I was afk the time he was here. And was going to be afk for another 48 hours.

So yeah. rayn was an ok kill.
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April 11 2017 16:45 GMT
#1105
He is tunneled. madly tunneled.
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April 11 2017 16:46 GMT
#1106
A case on how sexy I am and it must be TMI that I caught Calix as soon as I entered the thread? Sure thing.
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April 11 2017 16:54 GMT
#1112
It's Rels guys. Let's just afk lynch him and start panicking after he flips VT.

The one Frenchie that doesn't surrender...
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April 11 2017 16:57 GMT
#1113
On April 11 2017 16:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 15:15 darthfoley wrote:
On April 10 2017 20:40 Rels wrote:
Shape's filter doesn't hit me as super scummy by itself. But he's the only logical answer.


On April 10 2017 21:40 Rels wrote:
On April 10 2017 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What do you mean by that?

That I don't find Shape's filter particulary scummy, but not townie either and everyone else is town.


Now that the "logical" answer flipped town, how do you see the game?

I'm pretty lost ... everyone has reason to be town. I dunno.

lol
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April 11 2017 17:07 GMT
#1116
There is a chance you are right. But except for that vote Rels hasn't done anything remotely townie or mafia.

Other people have done both in abundance.

Kill Rels. Always. Please.
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April 11 2017 17:27 GMT
#1119
I'll consider it tomorrow. tbh I haven't read shit from the last 96 hours
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April 12 2017 07:29 GMT
#1138
Tumble and Rels , can you both please make a case on each other?
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April 12 2017 08:36 GMT
#1143
Doc can't save twice in a row.

The only wifom there could be is why Rels or Tumble picked rayn over sicklucker last night.
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April 12 2017 08:36 GMT
#1144
rayn went more after Tumble.
sicklucker went full on Rels.
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April 12 2017 09:53 GMT
#1151
On April 12 2017 18:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2017 18:02 sicklucker wrote:
so meet in the middle and lynch beenthere?

nice suggestion after the guy who wanted to lynch my scumread and hard townread me died. Exactly the thing I'd do when I'm the last scum.


Mafia tends to take jokes badly :/
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April 12 2017 10:22 GMT
#1153
Just write a lot of words about Rels pls. I don't even care what is in it.
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April 12 2017 11:06 GMT
#1156
rayn probably asked TW but after reading his filter his sap on btdt is not explained.
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April 12 2017 11:06 GMT
#1157
Guess I will go read rayn his filter next.
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April 12 2017 12:41 GMT
#1158
Rels can you type up some words around the case I quoted from Shape on you?
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April 12 2017 21:14 GMT
#1162
On April 13 2017 04:16 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2017 21:41 Koshi wrote:
Rels can you type up some words around the case I quoted from Shape on you?


why did you vote for Tumble? Rels keeps saying he's gonna come in and play the game and he hasn't done jack shit

raynpelikoneet.

But:
- Rels 1 liners read more "free" than Tumble his posts.
- Tumble "pushed" mafia agenda potentially, Rels never did that.
- Tumble his read change on btdt doesn't make sense and is never explained. He had bdtd as lock town when everybody had him as mafia, but when people thought btdt was becoming townie, only then Tumble had btdt as mafia.
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April 12 2017 22:55 GMT
#1172
On April 13 2017 06:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 06:14 Koshi wrote:
On April 13 2017 04:16 darthfoley wrote:
On April 12 2017 21:41 Koshi wrote:
Rels can you type up some words around the case I quoted from Shape on you?


why did you vote for Tumble? Rels keeps saying he's gonna come in and play the game and he hasn't done jack shit

raynpelikoneet.

But:
- Rels 1 liners read more "free" than Tumble his posts.
- Tumble "pushed" mafia agenda potentially, Rels never did that.
- Tumble his read change on btdt doesn't make sense and is never explained. He had bdtd as lock town when everybody had him as mafia, but when people thought btdt was becoming townie, only then Tumble had btdt as mafia.


Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 06:41 Tumblewood wrote:
what do you mean my read change was never explained? when calix flipped scum everyone on her wagon went up and everyone else went a little down. someone even asked me about it and I said that's why


That's true, Koshi.

lol... That is so easy.

There was a fucking reason why you 100% hard townread btdt early game Tumble. Explain why the 3 obvious townies and Rels made you flip that entire read and suddenly btdt became lock mafia.

Pretty annoying that at least 1 townie in this game decided to do completely fucking nothing in the past 100 hours. Maybe 2.

You can actually try to do something you know?
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April 12 2017 22:56 GMT
#1173
Like... You were on btdt his ass and not Shape or SL or w.e.

w.e

I don't really care. I am just lynching baddies with mafia treats.

If you don't play. I cba.
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April 12 2017 22:58 GMT
#1174
You just started your 4th page of filter and the first post on your 3rd page is from the 7th of April. And from that point it is all low content nothing possible AI posts.

Pretty sad. If you are town you are not even trying to put pressure on the mafia.
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April 12 2017 23:01 GMT
#1176
On April 10 2017 06:59 Tumblewood wrote:
although his filter leaves little to work with, I doubt rels is scum because he has put himself in a poor position to get someone else lynched after shapelog. I would expect scum!rels to scumread me and/or (pre-flip) sl so he'd have somewhere to go for the necessary 3 mislynches, and he still has not made 'preparations' in that respect

This is the last time you talked about Rels within a decent post. What a joke. And since then you almost made no accusations towards btdt as well.

Nothing in your filter shows you figured out the game and are trying to convince the "confirmed" townies that you are town. While you are one of the fucking 3 people that are more likely mafia here.
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April 12 2017 23:02 GMT
#1177
On April 13 2017 07:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 06:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm fine with Rels, Tumble, Shape, Calix, Koshi lynches apparently

and also Rayn

lol I don't have townreads apparently

this post during D1 is pretty townie

No that post is actually extremely mafia.
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April 12 2017 23:03 GMT
#1178
And then there is Rels who just made his 41th post in this game. 38 of those were probably oneliners. Like... If those 2 shitters are town and somebody like df/btdt is mafia there is no way we can figure it out.


And at least 1 is a shitter.
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April 12 2017 23:04 GMT
#1179
Oh well. Everybody is allowed to commit as much time to the game as they please.


But then it is also completely fine for me to say that you 2 are a fucking joke.
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April 12 2017 23:05 GMT
#1180
Just don't join games when your commitment is this fucking horrible.

grtz Rels you once again missed an entire d1. Just stop joining games you *****.
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April 12 2017 23:05 GMT
#1182
It doesn't make the game in any way fun for other people. Not if you are mafia. Not if you are town.
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April 12 2017 23:06 GMT
#1184
On April 13 2017 08:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On April 13 2017 07:58 Rels wrote:
On April 07 2017 06:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm fine with Rels, Tumble, Shape, Calix, Koshi lynches apparently

and also Rayn

lol I don't have townreads apparently

this post during D1 is pretty townie

No that post is actually extremely mafia.

nope. He's pissing off people and admitting he doesn't have townreads. It's weird for a constructed read of the game

See. That happens when you don't play. You don't understand what happened in the past.

Why is it not mafia saying 'guys I have no fucking clue what to do"
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April 12 2017 23:06 GMT
#1185
Nha I am out.

You fucking suck ass Rels.
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April 13 2017 07:18 GMT
#1208
On April 13 2017 08:13 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 08:06 Koshi wrote:
Nha I am out.

You fucking suck ass Rels.

But why leave the very moment Rels starts playing?

Because it was past 1 am and I need to fucking sleep maybe???
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April 13 2017 07:20 GMT
#1209
On April 13 2017 08:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
There's one scenario where Koshi/darthfoley could be scum although they voted for Calix super-early. That would be Calix saying in obs qt "oh shit, I gotta go, can't play, sorry".

Calix didn't play anymore after having the initial encounter with me. That might be a scenario. I wouldn't like losing to that but if that's the case, I think we simply lost.


Also a full on lie. She played till the encounter with me.
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April 13 2017 07:22 GMT
#1210
and not that that encounter had to do with her leaving of course. But she played way past the point btdt claims.
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April 13 2017 07:23 GMT
#1211
The solution to the game is without doubt already in the thread though.
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April 13 2017 07:32 GMT
#1214
Fine. But I really am thinking there is a legit chance that there is mafia within df and btdt. So it would be nice if you or Rels did something.

If you don't do anything, we can't react.
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April 13 2017 07:33 GMT
#1215
Explain why you are town over btdt by example. Can you?
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April 13 2017 07:35 GMT
#1217
On April 13 2017 08:41 Rels wrote:
meh. DF's post are involved in this game. Likely town.
I was thinking about sicklucker's fakeclaim yesterday. But scum doesn't" know the setup, so if he's scum he took a risk that make him auto loses 66% of the time.
Koshi's reaction to Calix early D1 basically makes him 100% town. + he just got even more town by being an ass just now in his Koshi way.
So. Tumble is scum. Only thing going for him is the "mindmeld" on Calix. Which is weird for partners. But the rest is inexistent. Bland. BTDT's read in particular makes no sense. And I don't know how anybody scumread BTDT over me too. I quoted his D1 BTDT read above which is weird. No idea why he's scumreading BTDT now. Kinda looks like a leftover read from the "lynch Shape" area of the game. It's not very organic.

TW can you comment on this post by Rels?
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April 13 2017 07:41 GMT
#1219
TW please comment on the Rels post. Think about it pls. I want to see a good post.
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April 13 2017 08:14 GMT
#1224
Well. Tumble is no help at all.

##unvote
##vote Rels

Tried to make some plays but it is useless. Rels is obvious mafia.
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April 13 2017 08:15 GMT
#1225
Today everybody did a, Rels did b
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April 13 2017 10:04 GMT
#1229
Rels
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April 13 2017 11:53 GMT
#1231
On April 13 2017 16:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 08:41 Rels wrote:
meh. DF's post are involved in this game. Likely town.
I was thinking about sicklucker's fakeclaim yesterday. But scum doesn't" know the setup, so if he's scum he took a risk that make him auto loses 66% of the time.
Koshi's reaction to Calix early D1 basically makes him 100% town. + he just got even more town by being an ass just now in his Koshi way.
So. Tumble is scum. Only thing going for him is the "mindmeld" on Calix. Which is weird for partners. But the rest is inexistent. Bland. BTDT's read in particular makes no sense. And I don't know how anybody scumread BTDT over me too. I quoted his D1 BTDT read above which is weird. No idea why he's scumreading BTDT now. Kinda looks like a leftover read from the "lynch Shape" area of the game. It's not very organic.

TW can you comment on this post by Rels?

I'll comment myself:

Reading this it seems like Rels is buddying everybody xcept the counterwagon. Yes buddying is the wrong word but he is not annoying the living shit out of people. Which I did, and then others did back at me, xcept Rels, he also was all smiley face when he said I sucked for leaving when he entered the thread.

Tumble and btdt their play is very similar today. Both are paranoid and their scum % are pretty wide. They also have no qualms biting back.

So I am going to lynch the guy that is doing nothing the entire game. And just looked good on the Calix lynch.

------

The only problem I have is the double rayn shot. But due to mafia controlling the wifom on that one I am not going to bother.
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April 13 2017 12:34 GMT
#1235
On April 13 2017 21:04 Rels wrote:
TLDR Koshi LUL unable to see the obvious and blaming me instead

LUL Rels mafia or biggest piece of trash ever
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April 13 2017 13:30 GMT
#1237
On April 13 2017 22:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 21:34 Koshi wrote:
On April 13 2017 21:04 Rels wrote:
TLDR Koshi LUL unable to see the obvious and blaming me instead

LUL Rels mafia or biggest piece of trash ever

this is what I'm talking about

indeed
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April 13 2017 13:33 GMT
#1239
On April 13 2017 22:31 Rels wrote:
"OH YEAH RELS DID NOTHING AND NEEDS TO COME!"
* Rels starts to reread the entire game
"MM TIME TO GTFO"
* Rels posts his thoughts on everyone
"MM RELS STILL DID NOTHING ALL GAME MAFIA OR TRASH"

mad cuz bad :D
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April 14 2017 07:30 GMT
#1254
I could actually doubt it is TW but w.e. Let's lynch him I guess
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April 15 2017 11:38 GMT
#1272
So we won a ml. Not bad. Plays are real.
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April 15 2017 11:38 GMT
#1273
So... Tumble and then lylo? Lets figure out to lynch if tumble flips vt?
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April 15 2017 11:41 GMT
#1274
On April 15 2017 04:54 darthfoley wrote:
Why are btdt and Koshi lamenting how it might not be TW but that they have to lynch him? What is forcing you to have to do that?

Also btdt why does Koshi bussing feel fucked up? I just don't understand the language behind that. You're basically conceding a loss if Koshi bussed. Idk i just don't understand the recent play in the thread. Like SL and I seem to be the only ones considering any possibilities outside of TW. Feels especially "fucked up" considering scum!Koshi or scum!btdt only need one ML to win.

This post is bad because it nowhere shows that you have been in this game paying attention. It's a summary of 1 page and you have forgotten all other things.
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Koshi
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April 15 2017 11:41 GMT
#1275
I really want to know who is mafia if Tumble isnt
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April 15 2017 11:43 GMT
#1276
I guess I could claim doc as well. WP sicklucker. We gained a ml.
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April 15 2017 13:49 GMT
#1278
On April 15 2017 22:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On April 15 2017 20:43 Koshi wrote:
I guess I could claim doc as well. WP sicklucker. We gained a ml.

You claim doctor?

yes
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April 15 2017 14:09 GMT
#1279
n1 protected rayn
n2 no protect
n3 protected sicklucker

Up to you guys to decide sl did the slowplay of the year.
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April 15 2017 14:56 GMT
#1285
yeah. I just think it is Darthfoley tbh.

##vote Darthfoley
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Koshi
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April 15 2017 21:48 GMT
#1306
Funny. I have no clue.
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April 15 2017 21:49 GMT
#1307
35% df. That's my best guess.
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April 16 2017 11:49 GMT
#1335
On April 16 2017 12:46 sicklucker wrote:
also darth is lynched no matter who i vote currently hum. koshi how sure are you that darths scum. i think this deserves some effort. unfortunately i been drunk all day due to easter partys

I have no clue tbh. I'll reread today for real.
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Koshi
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April 16 2017 12:36 GMT
#1336
if btdt is mafia he played really well.
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Koshi
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April 16 2017 12:36 GMT
#1337
Same for sicklucker. Even better.
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April 16 2017 12:42 GMT
#1338
On April 07 2017 02:09 darthfoley wrote:
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On April 06 2017 20:30 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:26 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:18 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix?


No, I don't.

But that's not the point.

You clearly think it is.

Why does it matter what I think then?

Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"?

Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in.



Yes, and if you're uncertain on something then you generally question/ pressure that person so they clarify the issue. I am wondering why you wouldn't want to push Koshi when your posts were going in that direction and I'm still not sure what the hesitation is for.

I am not 'going after you' either, actually. I generally find you scummy so I am trying not to jump down your throat here, lol.

And how am I supposed to question Koshi on his, like, three posts? I've pointed out what I didn't like, and depending on his reaction to that, I'll continue to go after him or not.

Why are you scumreading me for going after something I find scummy?


Pretty simple. You just ask basic shit like "why did you decide to announce this playstyle after you got your role?" (as an example) and go from there.

Where did I say I was scum-reading you? I said "I generally find you scummy" which is not the same thing. And the entire conversation we're having is that you AREN'T going after something you find scummy O_o

You're not making much sense.


I find this sentence comical. Can anyone who isn't Calix explain wtf the difference is between these two sentences, because to me it just looks like useless hedging that sounds scum motivated. The splitting of semantic hairs is not something I really associate with town!calix.

I think btdt is more town from the argument because he seemed more logical/focused/level headed.

Koshi's intro reminds me a bit of his standoffish play style he used last game as scum, and I like btdt's questioning of him so far

My time is a bit limited but I'm catching up ASAP


possbile tmi. Also there wasn't any follow up I think.

On April 07 2017 02:19 darthfoley wrote:
The thing is I still don't see how probing rayn is "sucking up"

I can understand the point if Koshi was talking about it from the "faking activity" point he brought up later, but the progression from "she was sucking up" to "she was faking activity" doesn't really make sense to me

Very sidelines.

On April 07 2017 22:30 darthfoley wrote:
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On April 07 2017 19:22 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 07 2017 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
beentheredonethat where does your read go from town -> scum on Calix?

On April 07 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Could you answer with quoting the posts / explaining it fully from the beginning (the read progression) so i don't have to guess what happenings in the game you are talking about.


Whew. That's a lot. So first of all, Calix went after me pretty harshly, seemingly about "Why are you not voting although you claim it's pushworthy?". I felt like this was a rather constructed thing, given it was the very beginning of D1 and people were still entering the thread.

However, I felt she was going after me relentlessly which per se is not scum indicative but already felt weird - it's like "hey it's D1 and you're going harshly after me for some weird reasons that are just weak". So I started to think she's mafia, trying to get into the thread without getting called out on it (which in this case would've been a success). What really bugged me then though was the drop-off of me, claiming a misunderstanding. Also, the semantics thing that I pointed out early was weird - calling me out on "you say it's pushworthy but don't push", and then claiming "I don't scumread you, I think you're scummy" (i dont get the point of this anyway).

I can see this coming from a town!Calix but I can also see it from a scum!Calix and I tend to weigh towards scum in here.


Then why did she go from "I am going to call it a day and call Calix and Tumble the mafia team" to "Calix is perfect null". WITHOUT Calix posting.


Rayn is town yay

I never understood this post.
On April 07 2017 22:43 darthfoley wrote:
The only saving grace for BTDT right now is that all of a sudden he has the pressure of a thousand suns on him from two very vocal players and SL, all the while Calix hasn't posted anything since her slew of terrible posts early game... yet people seem to have backed off her a bit. This feels similar to the Generic game that just finished when Eden was super AFK scummy but almost wiggled out of a lynch because other townspeople did a few scummy things

Also anyone TRing Shapelog please explain. ATM I think Calix/Shapelog are most likely mafia. Maybe btdt, but his frustration feels real and not fake rage idk

weird + tmi
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Koshi
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April 16 2017 12:44 GMT
#1339
Hmm don't think darthfoley has been solving this game. I just read his filter and he never tries to push to clear somebody. Or pushes a good townread into the game. Try to convince people.
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Koshi
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April 16 2017 12:44 GMT
#1340
I am pretty sure I a mlynching both df and tumble. No matter what.
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April 16 2017 16:55 GMT
#1343
I have no clue though.
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Koshi
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April 16 2017 20:51 GMT
#1374
##unvote
##vote TW
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April 16 2017 20:51 GMT
#1375
Not sure if town fucks up this bad and votes off each other. But I hope mafia kills the doc and sicklucker can do lylo :D
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Koshi
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April 16 2017 20:52 GMT
#1376
Go vote TW.

Trust rayn
Trust Rels
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April 17 2017 16:57 GMT
#1440
pff just kill df
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April 17 2017 20:20 GMT
#1444
I agree. It is always you over btdt.
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April 18 2017 07:39 GMT
#1458
##vote darthfoley
Not changing.
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April 19 2017 11:34 GMT
#1461
I could make a post about why I am voting df to explain myself and potentially calm the upcoming shitstorm. But I don't know if I want to do that.

Somewhere I felt throughout the game df was clean mafia. Said it a couple times. tw and btdt were ugly townies but I actually read them more town in my gut throughout the game. Xcept when rayn and I were drilling btdt, at that point I could see btdt be mafia.

The last days btdt was also pretty aggressive playing this game. It could be he is mafia and knew he had to keep up the hard work though. I can't really differentiate.

Anyway. I feel somewhat bad about the TW lynch. Rels and Shape I was fine with.
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Koshi
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April 19 2017 22:23 GMT
#1462
tbh. I would expect activity from town btdt here. Oh well. Live and learn.
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Koshi
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April 19 2017 22:26 GMT
#1463
The emotion was good. wp if mafia.
The conversation with Calix was decent. wp if mafia.
The confusion around the second docsave was well done. wp if mafia.

Overall better activity than df.
Overall a way more convincing/game solving filter than df.


tbh I would be surprised.
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April 19 2017 23:29 GMT
#1465
good talk
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April 20 2017 08:40 GMT
#1484
Well played df.
I don't know if I would have lynched you over TW if it was lylo sooner. Maybe. Very maybe. TW vote I felt bad about when I switched off you, I kinda knew it there. But you played so well.

You only lost to btdt because he had the emotion card. Which he used pretty hard this game. And because as mafia it is impossible to look like a townie over 5 ingame days. It gets obvious after a while, probably not for you as mafia, but you feel it as townie. You were a bit less vocal, bit less interested, bit less aggressive, bit less impactful.. It's small but it was noticeable.
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Koshi
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April 20 2017 08:47 GMT
#1485
Pretty cool play by SL. Lucky I for once read him as town when he was town

I wonder if we could have done anything about the Shape/Rels lynches. I think I already read TW town when we lynched Rels.
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April 20 2017 08:50 GMT
#1486
On April 11 2017 21:00 Koshi wrote:
I do not know why Rels is not the lynch tomorrow.

Sicklucker is obviously doctor, or he did an insane play to secure him lylo. In this game mafia doesn't know the setup, so if this is a vt setup he gambled on that and then gambled on not being coutnerclaimed???? Are you all dense or am I wrong about the setup? I didn't read the op.

rayn can't be mafia because while I threw the ball, he made the alley hoop. or w.e that is called. And then during night he decides to not kill anybody while he isn't sure there is a doc so he might get docsaved and then be confirmed? Even more confirmed than he already is??? Are you fuckers for real?

So everybody should have at least 3 superconfirmed townies himself included.


Who is left for me:
Rels
Tumble
btdt
df

For me the obvious choice is Rels. Didn't do shit, and just gained cred when it was cool. Go lynch that fucker.
Darthfoley played well if he is mafia. Cherry picked what he posted and made them incredible.
Tumble most likely is town. Read rayn his posts on why. He is just playing like he always plays. Weird or not understandable does NOT equal scum. Not now, not ever.
btdt is possibly mafia due to interactions with Calix and bad posts. But he is not mafia due to activity and emotions. So he is not mafia and should not be considered in the next 2 lynches. Or do we lose after 3ml? I don't know.


So lynch Rels
Then look at how clean dartholey is
Then look at how messed up Tumble and btdt are and pick one in lylo. Hopefully I am there and not sicklucker.



Also protip to btdt and tumble: Stop calling each other mafia because you don't understand the other person his playstyle. It's dumb.

After this post everything went downhill for me this game.
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Koshi
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April 20 2017 08:51 GMT
#1487
Well. It was ok. But I should have sticked on df and not switch to Tumble.

I blame Rels and rayn.
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Koshi
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April 20 2017 09:07 GMT
#1488
No I blame Rels his dumb cockiness. That kinda threw me off df and onto TW.

You played very good rayn! But dont stop playing!
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April 20 2017 09:52 GMT
#1491
I think if you hard pushed DF, I could have swapped to him. Extremely maybe! But then we would have lynched him the next day for sure.

But your posts looked so "buddy everybody while securing another ml on TW" that I couldn't see you being town.
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April 20 2017 09:58 GMT
#1493
Good thing we lynched you then!
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April 20 2017 13:21 GMT
#1496
On April 20 2017 12:03 iamperfection wrote:
top 6

1.Holyflare- 105
2.Fecalfeast - 50
3.raynpelikoneet-35
4. Rels- 30
5.Malongo- 25
6.LightningStrike- 20

top 4 qualify if someone isnt avaliable we will go down list. Make sure to sign up for the rumble in a couple weeks which is a non mafia game to determine the last spot. you can sign up if you already qualified


I am missing df in this list then.
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April 20 2017 13:27 GMT
#1497
On April 20 2017 18:38 Rels wrote:
totally agree with the MVP too. Sry Tumble I was dumb. But DF was super townie. These big posts D1 in particular

The guy that voted mafia 0 times?
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April 20 2017 16:36 GMT
#1501
No I already had one. It should have been df though. And then rayn 50 points. And sicklucker maybeeee 25.

I don't know why iamp loves sl so much.
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#1503
as if iamp cares.
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