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Calix
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 22 2017 00:10 Calix wrote: Another day, another shit-fight between rayn and Xatalos. Good to see I haven't missed anything Why did you think i am mafia for his fucking shit-tier case? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On March 21 2017 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THIS BULLSHIT!!?!?!?!? | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On March 22 2017 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why did you think i am mafia for his fucking shit-tier case? Saying "you made a good point" =/= "I think rayn is mafia" Please read and stop clogging up the fucking chat. I can't wait for you to get shanked N2 so I don't have to waste my time skimming over pages and pages and PAGES of pointless bickering -_- | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Xatalos
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On March 22 2017 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Your problem here is mistaking what mafia knows and what mafia doesn't know. If you know Damdred is town in this game then you also know he isn't being "unsmart" or anything i claim, jsut as you knew HTS was not "really scummy". In this game however you have presented multiple arguments for me being mafia that have absolutely nothing to do with me being mafia, in fact they make me most likely town considering my earlier games. Then you, even after conceding i can be town, follow up with trashing on everything i say without even trying to interact with me. Yeah, you haven't done that earlier as mafia. But it doesn't make any sense and i don't see any fucking reason why you would do that as town. You got townread for it, i didn't. Maybe you just rolled with it, who the fuck knows. I don't, but i also don't know why you would EVER do that as town. Even if you're not a good lynch, it doesn't mean your words are holy. Maybe I've become overly paranoid of you after being burned many times... but it's also a sign of respect, in a way, that I believe you could still be scum in this situation. There aren't many people I would believe could be (maybe HF?). That also leads to the result that I take everything you say with a grain of salt. That's doubly so when I'm your top scum and your reads completely contradict mine. It's not easy to reach a mutual understanding from there. So I'd rather ignore you to some extent and listen more closely to what clearer probable townies say. No hard feelings. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 18 2017 07:15 Xatalos wrote: Eden's case isn't actually horrible. It's true that Calix jumped to scumreading disfo a bit quickly/strongly and stuck with it until it no longer had steam. The reason for dropping it wasn't the best either... "at least he's doing something now" after listing various other reasons to scumread him, which weren't really addressed? Or were they somewhere? I could be biased because Eden praised my townieness so greatly. I'll be around closer to the deadline, but probably not very much for the next 15-20 hours or so. Shows guilt On March 19 2017 00:51 Xatalos wrote: Foley seems OK'ish for now, I guess? He talks a lot in a focused manner (focused on doing useful things). Kind of jumps to quick snap judgments. His reads aren't too far from my own, just a couple of people in different places. Pretty... null / slight town lean? Not really the best D1 lynch IMO Not sure if I like this read on Foley. Too generic. Should actually check if his reads really line up with those of darth. On March 19 2017 00:55 Xatalos wrote: Eden seemed kind of OK? At least his Calix case actually made me reconsider Calix - no matter if it's right or wrong, at least he seems to do things and not just lurk by. So much bad in this sentence. 1) Soft defense on Eden for no reason. 2) And who says "I considered scumreading Calix due to this case, it doesn't matter if the case is wrong"? He doesn't say it like that. But he acknowledges the fact it could very well be wrong. 3) So twice he hides behind Eden case to scumread Calix.... Feels like what he did to me and rayn. On March 19 2017 01:04 Xatalos wrote: Well, it's not like I think you're sure scum like he implied or anything. Just that his reasoning kind of made sense to me. You did jump to scumread him very quickly, and a bit too strongly considering the reasoning (tone) maybe... and kind of left the wagon to roll until it died? And abandoned the wagon just like that even though your other points weren't really addressed, just the confusion part that I was mostly suspicious of? Dunno. I can see the scum motivation in that. But then again, you've been pretty active and contributing very, so I don't have any motivation to pursue the matter. When confronted by Calix he is very apologetic. While he should try to figure out if the case is either correct or false.Xatalos, why feul the Eden case and incriminate Calix but then don't do anything yourself when Calix confronts you? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On March 22 2017 00:14 Xatalos wrote: Even if you're not a good lynch, it doesn't mean your words are holy. Maybe I've become overly paranoid of you after being burned many times... but it's also a sign of respect, in a way, that I believe you could still be scum in this situation. There aren't many people I would believe could be (maybe HF?). That also leads to the result that I take everything you say with a grain of salt. That's doubly so when I'm your top scum and your reads completely contradict mine. It's not easy to reach a mutual understanding from there. So I'd rather ignore you to some extent and listen more closely to what clearer probable townies say. No hard feelings. You just made a post that said "i am bad at mafia if i am town this game". | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On March 21 2017 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: The other thing is i don't really see why Xatalos thinks Damdred has said smart things in this game, because he hasn't. Look at for example DBS' read on Koshi. That's a smart thing - that's sorta read i would expect from Damdred especially early game because he does that a lot when he is town. What he does instead was that completely mindless question to disformation and jsut laying out a list of townreads. Meeeeehhhhhhhh.... Obviously there are games (especially lately) where Damdred just afk's the fuck out of the game but this is not one. Hell i can't even tell what half of his posts say ?!?!?!? And that's smart posting? The only thing even remotely "smart" is the Tumblewood contradiction read at the start of N1 but even that fucking vanished in hours for idk what reason. Suddenly Tumblewood wasn't mafia anymore when just a while ago Damdred was so proud of finding something that "absolutely made someone mafia".. Yeah you didn't even read 3/4 of my posts when you were/are scum reading me, which is disrespectful tbh since I went out of my way to try to interact with you when most of the thread was shitting on you and I was screaming that you were still town. Just tunneled. I have said smart things, I was one of the original people saying why Eden was being bad during D1. (still think hes scum) Tumble Catch, as for why i'm not super sure hes mafia now he had a post today that made me question it. It happens, and its for a halfway decent reason shrug. Overall I think your reasoning for scum reading me is far below your normal principles tbh. And as for @adam, I think I was kinda harsh with your posts. But I really think that Eden is scum, I have since D1. His play matches his mafia game, it doesn't show a real town agenda. His case on Calix is just there to take up space, even when he comes back he just goes oh well nobody really cares, when he really didn't even do anything to try to get it to take off. Then when he votes someone who he has at null, (which btw he had a really weird read on rayn who he voted with) he returns after the lynch to shit on everyone who went a different way when he had 0 impact on the lynch. I don't see this coming from Eden as town when he is one of the most constructive players around a mislynch or scum lynch at keeping people on track that I know. Maybe hes town, I'll give you that and just couldn't play. But I just don't believe that. As for shitting on you, I guess I was overtly hostile and I am sorry about that. I feel like you have totally misrepresented my gameplay d1 with your mini-case on me which I showed how it wasn't true/gave my thoughts. As for your other posts some are ok so far and you show a decent amount of paranoia about things you should if you are town. So yeah I could see your posts coming from town so far. Now adam opinion time, I know you added onto DF post about the Ritoky probabilities of why he was killed. Did anything in that post bother you exactly? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 22 2017 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay then why did you scumread me, because i was one of your top townreads before that post and after that suddenly i was mafia in your filter? So if it's not that then what it is? | ||
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Xatalos
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raynpelikoneet
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 22 2017 00:13 Calix wrote: Saying "you made a good point" =/= "I think rayn is mafia" Please read and stop clogging up the fucking chat. I can't wait for you to get shanked N2 so I don't have to waste my time skimming over pages and pages and PAGES of pointless bickering -_- Eeuhm. At least rayn is shitfighting against his scumread who is not being lynched at all by town. So it is completely warranted. FYI you and your buddy UN are way worse. You fill pages for nothing. Pls don't act so high and mighty | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 22 2017 00:18 Xatalos wrote: That's not even a case, just a side-note. Besides you probably misunderstood it (on purpose or not). I just meant that your reads were a bit too unnaturally static until then, never even reconsidering with new info, just repeating old points. It doesnt matter what it is, it matter Calix' filter says she scumread me for it so why don't you scumread her then for a shit read? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 22 2017 00:16 Damdred wrote: Now adam opinion time, I know you added onto DF post about the Ritoky probabilities of why he was killed. Did anything in that post bother you exactly? Yes. But I let the other guy reply. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On March 22 2017 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Damdred if you're not mafia then there is a real fucking chance Calix is mafia. She's buying shit. I'm not mafia, i'm not super sold on Adam being mafia either after catching up, i'd probably say his posts are more thought provoking than his first couple I took issue with. I still think Eden is scum. I also think that Onegu can be town with how sure he was that he got green checked, kinda a bit weak. But I sort of like that. So yeah Calix is worth another look. DF is also worth a look. I am not sure about Xata, i'm a bit pocketed with all the hard defenses i'm getting so far while he hedges at other points on me (bad xata). I'm going to read both of their filters | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On March 22 2017 00:19 Koshi wrote: Eeuhm. At least rayn is shitfighting against his scumread who is not being lynched at all by town. So it is completely warranted. FYI you and your buddy UN are way worse. You fill pages for nothing. Pls don't act so high and mighty Calix. Are you 1.000% certain Xatalos is town? | ||
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Damdred
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You can answer to koshi, i kinda want to see if we are bothered by the same thing. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On March 22 2017 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: It doesnt matter what it is, it matter Calix' filter says she scumread me for it so why don't you scumread her then for a shit read? I don't think Calix put you to scum based on that note. She just said it was better than my pre-flip stuff I was talking previously. | ||
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