[T] Dota 2 Mafia

On October 20 2016 09:41 ritoky wrote:


? don't make assumptions about my reads. you don't know why i think dandel is town.

On October 20 2016 11:07 ExO_ wrote:


So a big problem is how familiar he is with dota. I think it would be stupid to claim doctor right away as I said, but assuming he's town why fake claim? He would have to know enough about dota to know wave of shadow is a dazzle spell, and that dazzle also has the shallow grave spell, which would lead someone to draw the conclusion that he is the doctor.

hmmm idk. I do think he's lying, but if he isn't super knowledgeable about dota it would give a little bit of support to the idea that he was telling the truth.

I'm a bit conflicted now. He's either lying or really dumb town. And I think if he's lying he's more likely to be scum lying.

On October 20 2016 11:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
and now hes crumbing spirit breaker.

On October 20 2016 11:24 ExO_ wrote:


I'm asking him directly to explain himself. There is no proof, but it would be very easy for WoS to come in and say "I didn't claim dazzle". It would be very easy. And yet he didn't say that. You're literally making a defense for him, when he won't defend himself.

I don't think asking for a little explanation is too much at all.

On October 20 2016 11:27 ExO_ wrote:


That's a bit of a stretch. Not a connection I think anybody would make, and one you are only making now that he said mooo. Really? Why didn't he just come out and say "I'm not claiming dazzle" right away?

On October 21 2016 03:06 Holyflare wrote:


This looks extremely forced and a terrible post just in general. Bad play all round really.

On October 21 2016 08:36 Kurumi wrote:


Hi Bill. You should not vote Holyflare. You know why?

On October 21 2016 09:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
If you're referring to the plan to stack KP, I still think that needs to happen, and I will push for it as best I can.
I think the worry about a potential PGO/bus driver/whatever/etc is silly.

In fact, I'm going to propose three town!KP targets right now that I suggest everyone with KP stack on (that doesn't have another ability they plan on using this phase).

Lord Tolkien
sicklucker
Glowingbear.

Stack your KPs on one of those three. I don't see a point in KPing the straight up non-posters because they will be replaced.

On October 21 2016 10:27 ExO_ wrote:


How is somebody avoiding a mod kill?

On October 21 2016 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:

lolwut
is your backspace key broken

On October 21 2016 14:08 sicklucker wrote:


7 straight posts inarow sicklucker style. probably town. bill you my boy?

On October 21 2016 14:10 sicklucker wrote:


you know stacking kp was my idea right? =]

On October 25 2016 07:35 Koshi wrote:
Ritoky/Vivax/Sicklucker/Lunatic/skynx

Endgame cred.

Afkers like Humahama/LT can be replaced with 1

On October 25 2016 08:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Bill no one's going to heal you.

If we're healing anyone, it's ironically going to be koshi.

On October 22 2016 21:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm radiant for anyone that cares

On October 25 2016 10:23 Lord Tolkien wrote:
How much HP does wave have sicklucker, since you said you checked it

On October 26 2016 15:14 sicklucker wrote:


why are you attacking me ... you know theres 2 or 3 confirmed mafia in the game right?

On October 26 2016 15:17 sicklucker wrote:
anyone who didnt attack vivax last night is probably not town. I mean bm I hard defended you all game but this is absurd

On October 27 2016 08:55 Tubesock wrote:
Anyone have N2's player list? I missed it.

Anyone looked at where the possible places Vivax put his mines? I can soak up some damage and I won't die from it. Soo I should move one or closer to Vivax when he goes boom

On October 27 2016 05:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I'm not an SK but some of my wincons do involve killing some heroes. I just have no idea what alignment they are.
I'm removed from the game if I meet a certain combination of those wincons.

On October 27 2016 06:00 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, and this is fucking hilarious. I am looking at this, and I can think of no reason not to claim here, right now.

I am not going to claim my rolename, because I fear Artanis and I can still lose by accidentally dying, but I am 3P. I vouch for GP. He is 100% confirmed 3P in my mind, because he is my enemy. I never checked him. He was in my short list, but his movement on D1 threw me off.

When he claimed he had a detective, he rocketed back to being my number 1 suspect and then he claimed... and then he used his shot that kills me to blast ptmc in the face. I know, because I have the same shot, except I still have it to shoot him in the face at the end of this day. Until that time, I am around to help town!

TLDR: I claim 3P assassin, and you won't have to worry about me past the end of the day.

On October 27 2016 10:23 iamperfection wrote:
you 3rd party bm?

On October 28 2016 07:52 sicklucker wrote:


In a list of 7 players who I think can be scum and I have a scum read on you for many reasons I have just listed some.
For example I just went throuh your filter and you only ever interact with people I think are town. Never with the people I think are scum. Its acualy insane I think your filter is the biggest spew filter I have ever seen.

Heres the peopel you interact with alot (its really easy to see because your entire filter is you quoting people and responding to them)

Alot of interaction - acrofales - non mafia
Me - town
Holyflare - town
wave - town
ritoky- third party
ptmc - town
iamp - maybe town from this spew
beentheredonethat - town
nm - town
skye ???
Artanis

a small amount of interaction - dandel = (for dandels filter size I dont think there is very much)

Zero interaction - hopeless ( except your post just now) his filter is small so im not sure on him
- Everyone else including my mafia reads and exo who might just be mafia or never posts


Hell heres your earliest reads list 0 mafia in here I think other then vivax which was an obvious bus by everyone



Vivax, Skynx, Koshi
Hamaztubo, Lord Tolkien
Ritoky, GlowingBear
Sicklucker


This is acualy an epic spew I think. If I go through my pow list and see who tubesock has not interacted with in the thread that makes the mafia team the following.

Tubesock
hopeless
Kurumi ( zero interaction yet they are attacking each other I dont buy it maybe just lyying)
Dandel
Exo is mafia afterall it seems? still not sold on this could be one of the third partys or just 4 mafia.

Skynx does not look like a bus probably town via spew

On October 22 2016 03:35 Vivax wrote:
Kinda tempting to lynch Koshi cause his play is really uninspired and inspiration is what town Koshi projects but I don't think I want to lynch him D1.

I'm placing my vote on TT for now. His reason to vote me feels super construed.

On October 24 2016 22:35 Vivax wrote:
The good:

1. Hopeless.
He played and actually cared. I've never seen him care this much I believe. Last time he was mafia he behaved and talked like a guy standing dazed in front of a naked specimen of his preferred gender, then fell unconscious and nobody ever heard of him since. He is completely incapable of playing as mafia.

2. Iamperfection. I honestly have no clue how he plays mafia. But I somehow always know when he's town. Maybe he just always rolls town, maybe I'm just this good. It certainly has nothing to do with the way he plays. But he's town. He's obnoxious towards suspicious people and frantically searches remote places for mafia. He has this righteous, condescending tone in his posts.

3. Artanis. He's serious. There's no playing around. It's the empire mafia criterion. He'll just fool around and joke rather than get to work this blatantly as mafia. So I'm doing this call just based on that. I don't think I've seen a single gif? Maybe he's ill, most certainly he's being a good townie boy his parents would be proud of.

4. Dandel. Don't ask me why, I don't think I have a logical reason to TR him it's just what feels right.

5. Exo. I liked how he went after Wave D1 with the bar example and shit. Very aggressive overall but I think that in that too calm town atmosphere he did something scum wouldn't have done: Stir things up.

The ugly:

1. Bill Murray. This guy can just do what the hell he wants cause nobody ever had any clue how to read him in the history of mafia. He actually can have decent reads as town and be scary as mafia. Just the type of guy you will get insane over at a situation like lylo. Good luck boys.

Kurumi: Not that ugly actually. His lists had a meaning, and he bothered to start communicating normally afterwards. He doesn't feel the urge to do that as mafia. If anything, when he's mafia he just trolls, posts gibberish and doesn't give a damn about your opinion. On the good side of ugly.

KamasutraXTacoshopu:
Dunno, really. Focuses on superficial things like a newbie would do (shitposters=mafia, helpful=town). Hasn't yet mastered the art of saying "I am". He's the descartian nightmare, but it seems like it's a sentient being. I'm going with town for his focus on superficial things however, seems natural enough.

LordTolkien:
It bothers me that his initial list are people he would lynch just cause he doesn't know them. If he knows how to read the other people, he should certainly be able to find scum among them? Seems like a minor rebuttal, but is telling for laziness and has shown that he rather would make a very shallow list. Wanting to lynch kurumi for the emotes is also very superficial. They actually meant something if he bothered to figure it out.
Later on he plays some thread police, posts some stuff related to game mechanics, talks about germans in lederhosen, puts up the lynch mob face for Koshi. Alrighty, if he's mafia he's doing splendidly. I can't tell for sure yet.

Acrofales: He's just here cause he's ugly. I'm firmly convinced he is. Actually I just don't want to read his posts too much unfounded hate, this guy is just a bully and bullies don't deserve attention, just basic attacks.

Koshi: Felt really underwhelming at the beginning. Lacked too much third person and typical strongheadedness. But I have seen Koshi being like this as town, actually. He's just not very consistent in his tone, and just activity wise I think he looks townie enough. Plus if his claim is real, a double lynch doesn't seem like a mafia ability. So I'm leaving him kinda in between. I feel like he's becoming more townie as time passes. I just wonder why he's not on a crusade against me yet. meh.

Glowingbear: Slight townlean. Why? Cause he is scared when he's mafia. He isn't scared here. He's acting like some innocent teddy bear everyone's supposed to leave alone. Zero aggression shown towards his attackers. When Palmar got him on the hook D1 in another game he lashed back out towards him, he didn't make puppy eyes and ask "why" like here. For the time being he's staying in the ugly though. Cause he can do better than that.

The bad:

Tubesock: Goes on a rant about me being mafia and how we will have this for days and days. Quotes a game where I have like 7 posts as example. He realizes it's not really how I always play scum after ptmc points it out but doesn't really pursue that thought further. It's obvious he is just happy with having a reason to scumread me even after having it invalidated, ends up voting TickTock with me after having that train of thought. I believe he should have been much more determined to keep his vote on me after what he said.

Koroko: Has three posts. Claims third party, wins by creating fake accounts. Sounds too good to be true. Not necessarily mafia but definitely a something from outside this world that needs cleansing.

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As for SL, ptmc, WoS, Skynx, ritoky. I don't wanna put them into these categories
Off the top of my head, mafia WoS tends to longish posts. SL just loses the grip on the game and misunderstands stuff, ritoky acts smug and spams stuff for fun a bit like scumtanis. I cba to check for those tendencies on these guys I'd like to have them around a bit longer anyway.

From a glance ptmc seemed townie at first but he has kinda dropped off and his list seemed a bit superficial.

Skynx on the other hand was brutally honest about how he forgot about something and couldn't be arsed to go over it again in his list thingy and that earns him town points in my book.

Either way, I'd lynch tube and the 3p claim next.

On October 28 2016 09:13 Bill Murray wrote:
Lynch koshi tomorrow

On October 28 2016 09:16 Bill Murray wrote:

Here's an extended versIon of the exact same distancing. Vivax puts koshi in his scum pile but explains how he looks townie... lmfao

On October 29 2016 13:09 Tubesock wrote:
Is there a reason outside the double lynch bit makes him town?

On October 29 2016 13:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
BM. Take the pants off your head for a minute.
I literally redchecked Skynx.

He was the one who originally prevented the Vivax lynch and the Koshi double kill.

That likely makes Koshi town.

On October 29 2016 13:14 iamperfection wrote:
Hopeless is dead you god damn fool

On October 29 2016 13:50 ritoky wrote:
i am just going to come clean now cuz it's gonna be an issue later; and i should probably give you guys the most amount of time to discuss and decide on this...since if wave truly has a red check then you at least have 3+ days to make a call.

i am town. i played incredibly greedy and self-interested this game. so i will at least try to explain why.

very early on i realized i did not have the willpower or the desire to play how i normally play and wanted to default into a sheeping role. as a result of this, many people were scum reading me for not being the me of old, but well....i am not really that dude anymore i guess. it just ain't in me no more. in order to alleviate myself from the possibility of being lynched i fake claimed 3p. however, there's more to the story.

my role has an incredibly high amount of hp (the highest of any flipped champ thus far). but when i make a clone i have send the clone some of my hp in order to make them. the upside is that for every clone i have i do quite a substantial amount of more damage. at 3 clones now i can probably 1shot over half of the remaining players per phase i am alive. i needed to avoid chip/peripheral damage (which i did taking 0 damage all game) in order to develop myself into the late game dps master that i currently am. so 3rd party claiming makes me pretty much never targeted by damaging abilities thus i can pump out more clones and deal more damage.

so i am sorry for being a greedy asshole and claiming 3p as town, i am sorry my play is so shit that you probably can't read me as town and will have a hard time believing me; but at least i no longer have to perpetuate a lie and you can all understand why i did what i did.

On October 29 2016 14:04 ritoky wrote:
well i think we have maybe 5 potentially confirmed town + artanis (if he's 3p). i think BM is really town, i am town, wave is potentially proven town, koshi is tenuously proven town, and then we have the person who gave me a sentry ward.

i didn't see items of giving items on any dead player, so i can only assume that person is alive.

if we assume your check is legit, that leaves:
tubesock
iamp
dandel
exo
sl

-1 from this list because 1 of them is likely the person who gave me a ward.

thus we have 4 people looking for 2 or 3 mafia, with my damage and our lynches i believe that is PoE.

On October 29 2016 14:19 ritoky wrote:
anyone think of a dota character that thematically would have a heal + double lynch or heal + daykill?

On October 29 2016 14:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Exo also has yet to show up, and all Kurumi has done has been to apologize all game. I think I did that in my last scumgame too (even if it was true---and he could be telling the truth about not being able to play and still be scum).


Iamp do you REALLY think ritoky is scum here?

I need some input on Dandel as well. He's fallen off fairly hard.
(also maybe the probability of Koshi being scum despite the no lynch and whatnot)

On October 29 2016 14:22 WaveofShadow wrote:

BM you can't take scum's reads into account nearly as well as town's.
They can fabricate anything and everything they want.

Still like the post though somewhat. I think you've reaffirmed yourself town for me if that matters at all.

On October 29 2016 14:50 ritoky wrote:
wat?

On October 29 2016 14:55 ritoky wrote:
just read exo's filter. no clue. he probably is never mafia with tubesock, there's that.....the only town exo i really remember is a massive tunneler and he isn't that this game; but the fuck do i know about meta-reading people anymore. he types some shit about allowing the mod to kill vivax instead of lynching him and gets mad when i point it out which isn't very good looking. he also says he is going to do more things than he actually does. but i don't really see glaring mafia and i can understand his thought progression a decent amount of the time.

On October 29 2016 14:56 ritoky wrote:


cuz i am pretty sure i claimed koroko was my account like 100 pages ago lol.

On October 29 2016 14:59 WaveofShadow wrote:

Wat
That's exactly what he's been this game?
Exo tunneled the shit out of me, then Koshi I think.

Also BM please stop before my brain explodes.
I have literally no idea what you're doing.

On October 29 2016 14:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
BM stop posting. Please.

On October 20 2016 12:46 Bill Murray wrote:
ok i just read through page 18 and here we are with exo outting a character with healing / protection spells

1) this doesnt mean exo is mafia
2) this doesnt mean waveofshadow is town

the way this game works, mafia will definitely have healing/protection abilities on their support
dazzles overpowered ass would fit mafia support perfectly to be honest
##Vote: WaveofShadow

On October 29 2016 18:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
the 50% dmgreduction abilitiy makes about as much sense for either champ actually, both just have a MS slow
so that lead nowhere

On October 29 2016 19:09 sicklucker wrote:
bill leave ritoky alone we have to kill scum not third party. we have like 2 or 3 confirmed scum in skyx/tube/kuru...

On October 29 2016 19:14 sicklucker wrote:


I mean we need him. but obvious hes losing us the game atm X. bm we need to kill scummmm. not third party that claimed like 5 days ago

On October 29 2016 19:14 sicklucker wrote:


I mean we need him. but obvious hes losing us the game atm X. bm we need to kill scummmm. not third party that claimed like 5 days ago

On October 29 2016 19:31 sicklucker wrote:


? if he already took 25 dmg we should put all are night actions on him and lynch someone else.

Alright guys I have lied all game about my role. Im really able to sense blood. If I sense blood I see red. I have slowly been accumulating red checks.

tubesock
dandel
skynx
kurumi
exo

Like its not hard guys just believe me im super cop.

Now we cant simply just lynch them all even if all third party works with town. we have to both lynxh and cordinate attacks with are abilitys. so stop dicking around. tubesock has been begging to be lynched for 2 days so hes probably immune to lynches or some shit. skynx has the lowest hp.

Lynch exo or kurumi or tubesock if your afraid. use all kp on skynx.

Acualy wave you rolecoped skynx correct? do you think his powers are something we even need to prioritize killing? because scum can have alot of op powers that we might wanna take out first...

On October 29 2016 06:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've played fucking horribly this game
I'm bad and I should feel bad

On October 29 2016 06:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
At this point I also think I'm wrong on Dandel because any respectable scumteam should have killed him ages ago if he was town. As scum he's probably a large reason as to why I'm still alive.

Also means he's been playing a hell of a game. Wp, buddeh.

On October 29 2016 06:50 sicklucker wrote:
also I can confirm Skynx has high hp left. (im bloodseeker) ritoky too. so we probably have to lynch skynx

On October 29 2016 07:34 Koshi wrote:
##vote Skynx

We need to lynch mafia back to back now. Skynx --> Tubesock/kurumi
Will filterdive Vivax/Skynx looking for clues. When I am less drunk. Will be slow gmae anyway now.

On October 31 2016 08:15 WaveofShadow wrote:

Oh holy shit.
How the fuck did we miss this?

On October 31 2016 09:36 Kurumi wrote:


Dude I've done one action on you, I claimed it. I reduced your damage output by 50% once.

On October 25 2016 00:32 Kurumi wrote:


Since I am subdued, inactive and Town, so probably is Vivax. The story has already been told with Holyflare, you people read him scum for his slow play and wanted to shoot/lynch him and Mafia got him in the end, while he clearly was Town. I guess we should dig up his filter, it's short for this game...

On October 25 2016 06:11 Half the Sky wrote:


Vivax (10): iamperfection, Acrofales, Dandel Ion, Skynx, ExO_, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Tubesock, WaveofShadow, Bill Murray, Skynx, beentheredonethat, sicklucker, Tubesock, GlowingBear
Lunaticman (8): Koshi, ptmc, Koshi, Artanis[xP], Hopeless1der, Kurumi, ritoky, Lord Tolkien, beentheredonethat
Koshi (1): Lunaticman
Tubesock (1): Vivax
iamperfection (0): GlowingBear
HamazuraXTakitsubo (0): beentheredonethat
Lord Tolkien (0): Kurumi
Exo_ (0): Koshi
GlowingBear (0): Artanis[xP]
Skynx (0): Koshi, Hopeless1der, Skynx, Artanis[xP], Tubesock

Not voted (1): HamazuraXTakitsubo,

Well Vivax was about to be owned...but now we have a problem on our hands....