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On September 09 2016 06:50 Vivax wrote: Is this some shitty attempt at getting easy townreads by replicating trfels opener from last game? Looked REALLY forced and his newish posts are all tradh and robotic. | ||
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Read his filter and look at how forced it looks that he's giving out reads such as "I like this post" and similar crap. But wait you say that's not enough oh great and wonderous Holyflare you are so great and wonderous surely there is more? YOU WERE CORRECT On September 09 2016 10:09 Tictock wrote: Ending pg7. The Setup stuff kinda bores me, but I should prob read through it eventually kus it sparked a bit of discussion. Kinda getting town feels from both of NU and Calix atm though. My thoughts on Setup, the dead should make their own calls on how to use their powers and Last Wills are not that important since the dead can be just as wrong as anyone about stuff. Basically the only setup thing that's important to living players imo is being able to see who the dead are voting for as that gives us insight into their thoughts. In general though it is best to approach this game as a straight all vanilla game with some potential information coming from dead players. Seems we've got a fairly active game started up here. I'm gunna have to catchup more after dinner. The worst post of this game and I've only read like 8 posts. First of all his entire post is a giant trash paradox "oh wow setup is so shitty and boring here is some setup talk!" this also doesn't align with anything he said in the post either because if he is too bored to read other people talk about setup then why is he making a post that could well have already been said? Nah he's skimmed your posts and wants to fit in. Then oh lokk I'm contributing after dinner spiel. Please TT i thought you at least had some high level mafia play. | ||
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Ticktock is a typical mafia player, nothing special, generic mafia play. | ||
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Don't be jealous because I can find mafia in 1/20th of the time | ||
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Too easy. | ||
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Someone better sheep me real soon. | ||
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My reading or not reading the thread has absolutely nothing to do with it and I don't see why you somehow think someone needs credibility to sheep them. If you agree with it then thay should be credible enough that a player pointed it out to you. Your mafianess is shining right through my friend. | ||
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On September 09 2016 12:03 fuba wrote: I can't point at anything explicitly wrong with your case, aside from the fact that the weakest reasons (at least in my eyes) could apply to me as well. The rest is enough to make it easily best case so far. *sheeps* You've done absolutely nothing i like but you've also done nothing as bad as ticktock. | ||
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I want this new guy to sheep me. | ||
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Ticktock New guy People that aren't: Person whose posts i haven't read but is from uk Fuba for now Night | ||
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On September 09 2016 12:17 Holyflare wrote: Anyway people that are scummy: Ticktock New guy Grackaroni People that aren't: Person whose posts i haven't read but is from uk Fuba for now Plammer Night I refuse to acknowledge setup speculation posts. Get rekt Superbia. | ||
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On September 09 2016 17:00 Grackaroni wrote: That's pretty much my goal every game. I'm done crafting long posts at the start of games. I'm at the same place as you on Holyflare though. His case (removing the "I like this post" part) essentially states: *Ticktock made a wifomy entrance post. *Ticktock stated he dislikes talking about setups and then talked about the setup, which is a contradiction, but he'll have to sell me on why it's a scummy one. Would the post be scummy if he made his post without stating that setup discussion is boring? Also, to end up here after reading the posts seems like he's going way overboard. This is a terrible post. Not only does he hard defend ticktock for absolutely no reason whatsoever but somehow he doesn't see how someone complaining that setup is useless and boring but then talking about setup is scummy. Ticktock literally has 0 content in his filter in comparison to actual insights in his last game. Ticktock's only content is game mechanics which he complained about doing IN THE SAME POST. No content, all fluff, didn't return from dinner. Mafia. If he's not mafia then grack and new guy certainly are. | ||
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Bad. | ||
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about my vote Wow. You mean my vote, you belong to me now. | ||
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On September 09 2016 21:29 Holyflare wrote: As an addendum new guy is only mafia for ignoring me and voting on uk person. Bad. An addendum to the addendum after ACTUALLY reading the thread. Superbia points on new guy are good and exactly where I stand but then add fuba's points and that's more like it. Disclaimer: all mentions of reading the thread may or may not be accurate | ||
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Sheep me plebs, I know how to play this game. | ||
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(shit did someone say something earlier and now my thread reading is a lie?) | ||
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On September 09 2016 21:25 Holyflare wrote: This is a terrible post. Not only does he hard defend ticktock for absolutely no reason whatsoever but somehow he doesn't see how someone complaining that setup is useless and boring but then talking about setup is scummy. Ticktock literally has 0 content in his filter in comparison to actual insights in his last game. Ticktock's only content is game mechanics which he complained about doing IN THE SAME POST. No content, all fluff, didn't return from dinner. Mafia. If he's not mafia then grack and new guy certainly are. Your post was really bad grack. | ||
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Like night and day. Terrible hard defence mafia grack. | ||
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On September 09 2016 22:47 Vivax wrote: What's up with superbia? A dozen one liners in a row, his plan is to get lynched, some of his speculation seemed misinformed. It's like he didn't sleep for 24 hours, drank a litre of coffee then started playing mafia. At least it looks like he's motivated to post. Quality 0 content shit post. | ||
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On September 10 2016 00:45 Skynx wrote: HF is town for tunnel on TT easiest read so far. What the fuck lol | ||
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On September 10 2016 01:02 Calix wrote: Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick? And why? (for the scum-reads at least) I feel like calling you an incredibly massive hypocrite and in fact I am. But you're from the UK so I'll let it slide. | ||
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On September 10 2016 01:06 Holyflare wrote: I feel like calling you an incredibly massive hypocrite and in fact I am. But you're from the UK so I'll let it slide. | ||
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On September 10 2016 04:22 Skynx wrote: What do you mean? His entire filter has like no content at all he has been around, had time to react on stuff. You saying we should just ignore all that and tr him cuz it fits his meta? On September 10 2016 04:19 Holyflare wrote: yes just like a town palmar is possible of doing | ||
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There is this post where he sets himself up for making crappy posts for...most of the game. | ||
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On September 10 2016 01:21 Holyflare wrote: Fuba is too self aware at being crappy for me to call him mafia. ^ this is still where I stand at fuba, if he doesn't start to contribute more in the allotted timeframe that he has given himself then I will be after him or you will be or whatever today is TT or Grackalackin depending on what TT says which I wager will be 0-5 posts complaining about me and saying something is crap and not much game playing | ||
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On September 10 2016 07:09 Damdred wrote: Sweeping is a skill that many people do not, nor want to, have. Its important to realize that sometimes someone is passionate about a lynch and they believe it so much and you should give it to them. (If you think they are town). So yes if I think hf is town I will give him his preferred lynch and I suspect he would do the same to me. Hahahaha no we always lynch who I want to and if we don't I get annoyed. | ||
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On September 10 2016 06:21 Rels wrote: Day 1 Votecount Tictock (2): Holyflare, fuba, fuba (2): NeverUnlucky, Calix Tumblewood (1): Calix (0): Superbia (0): Skynx (0): Not Voting (8): Skynx, Damdred, Palmar, Grackaroni, Vivax, Tumblewood, Shapelog, Tictock Day 1 ends Saturday, Sep 10 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate. bad people | ||
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also not ignoring this because i really did agree with your spammy point the rest is meh-ish to ok but: - One point that isn't as important to me, but still relevant: The fact he had the same early scumreads as HF but somehow didn't relate to what HF wrote about them, or talked about HFs posts on them. This usually wouldn't be a problem if superbia actually brought up points of his own that seemed better to him than HFs points, but since I don't really see anything explaining why TT is mafia, this isn't the case. ^ explain that plz | ||
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what a waste of a wall of text | ||
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For point #2: I think he is focusing on a contradiction that he can portray as scummy when I think he should be good enough to realize that it isn't very alignment indicative. TT said he didn't like talking about the setup and then said something about the setup. So what? scummiest fucking thing in the universe that's what | ||
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he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read: a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said. SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset. Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia. Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be. | ||
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Grackaroni mafia counter: Very, very, very high. | ||
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On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote: are you actually being fucking serious? he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read: a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said. SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset. Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia. Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be. defeated | ||
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BY THE WAY GUYS if Grackaroni's meta raeds weren't already 1000% genuine bull shit let's enlighten you to this filter!" Here is Grackroni using something I said in this game to call my scummy: Now, how about people open this said filter from my town game that Grackaroni uses to portray me as mafia and let's peruse the VERY FIRST PAGE LOL: On August 09 2016 00:05 Holyflare wrote: yeh I could 100% lynch mderg On August 09 2016 02:44 Holyflare wrote: I have a pretty big hunch that SL is 100% mafia so it's not really a hunch but facts I definitely targeted a weaker person in this game and he hasn't said shit about it and super dodged everything about me later I am definitely the same in other games. Strike one Grackaroni! NOW, I found a nice tidbit in my other game too: On August 08 2016 08:21 Holyflare wrote: Wow Tumblewood with the hard defending. I said I didn't like his posts because they were stiff and ALSO that I looked at his other game where he was town and it was different completely, so two factors that lead up to him being scummy. Not to mention he hasn't posted since either. Why have you completely bypassed the argument that I made and then made a new argument to defend him? Also, SL comes in the thread and doesn't say anything about lynching me, definitely probably mafia. this was from the Onegu game where I was town and pretty much have the exact same feelings as I do about Grackaroni in this game. My play is almost the same (maybe I should try this tactic as mafia some day ) and somehow grack extrapolates that I'm mafia based on meta :D :D :D :D ok grack. | ||
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On August 10 2016 16:17 Holyflare wrote: Hahahaha sicklucker you're 1000% mafia. On August 10 2016 22:37 Holyflare wrote: More than what.....? The only real moves I've done this game are started a wagon on probable mafia and cop checked to confirm. I'd say I've been 100% right so far. On August 10 2016 23:00 Holyflare wrote: So like i said before, 100% right. + Show Spoiler + On August 12 2016 07:16 Holyflare wrote: Here is my perspective which is what I was trying to highlight and what admittedly GB thought was weird the entire day (because it was weird). I am town and now evidently GB is town and that definitely highlights irregularities from mafia's perspective of this whole claim thing. We have several candidates flagged for mafia at this point and I'll rank them from the most likely: 1. Sicklucker I got a notification that I was roleblocked last night (I don't know why we get notifications at all really but w/e) so I was JK'd at least or MAYBE mafia rb'd which is possibly what SL is alluding to here: Now, think in your own heads, how unlikely was it that I was fake claiming? You guys are entirely in the dark, you did what was right, follow my lead and look for clues and links, SL on the other hand has referenced and foreshadowed (most importantly) GB flipping miller about 1000x throughout the day, not just flipping town, FLIPPING MILLER. That's the most important point of it all, mafia KNOWS I'm town and therefore if I have a red check and they know GB is town he MUST be a miller. This is why I found SL's reaction the most definite mindset of a mafia player because he KNEW ALL ALONG IT WAS HAPPENING. Mafia chance: 100% hahahaha all things debunking this | ||
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TT posted no content TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said TT has gone afk and done nothing But... he's not mafia? | ||
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TT/Grack may or may not be together and I can't decide based on unflipped associations but one of them is certainly mafia and it's increasingly looking like the guy hard defending an afk scummy poster. | ||
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On August 08 2016 05:49 Grackaroni wrote: If HF sees something on a mental checklist of things scum do then of course he should push it. Why do you think he shouldn't? There's nothing redeeming in Lunatic's filter yet. something Grack posted as town in Onegu 2 but he somehow has a completely different attitude here | ||
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On September 10 2016 09:44 NeverUnlucky wrote: All of these points apply to TW. Why is TT a scum-read when TW is not? Worth noting that Shapelog has gone MIA. because I have ignored tumblewood the entire game and I don't plan on lynching him over grack or tt | ||
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It's a very strong opening. But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because: On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote: Simple facts are: TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said TT has gone afk and done nothing But... he's not mafia? | ||
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On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote: are you actually being fucking serious? he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read: a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said. SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset. Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia. Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be. | ||
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"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla." or "Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>" | ||
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On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote: This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following: "Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla." or "Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>" | ||
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If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time. If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either. | ||
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Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too. | ||
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For now, stop interacting with me please because you don't agree with what I'm posting, we've heard your say, now do something different because your only content is about chainsaw defending a scummy player so far. | ||
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I will/should talk about other things too though. | ||
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You've made a case on why you think I'm mafia now it's up to other people to decide but for now stop trying to intentionally antagonise me because there's actual solid logic about Ticktock that you're burying under nonsense: On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote: Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it. If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time. If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either. On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote: This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following: "Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla." or "Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>" Either way, go away. | ||
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He even asks for people to comment on his posts which contain barely any relevance other than "this guy posted something on page x" until it comes to town reading me and people that town read me generally are mafia and it was super out of place at the time. And people could be commenting on stuff that's stupidly out of date because he's 20 pages behind each catch up. I'll look back into him/other games but he's not looking too great in my eyes. | ||
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Need some not nu/you arguing posts please. | ||
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Also vote Ticktock with me, the logic is infallible and he's mafia. | ||
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ALSO who decides to note vote someone based on good evidence just because they semi don't read the 3!!!!! out of 13 people on the wagon???? Not to mention I'm pretty sure she town read me and agreed with my points. Also first 1/3 of filter is arguments with her town read NU. Rest of it is just lots of giving out free wishy washy town reads and flip flopping on vivax, I think there's one real case but that's on town Fuba. | ||
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He's definitely mafia. | ||
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On September 11 2016 00:20 Grackaroni wrote: Just to be clear, HF: Am I the lynch plan tomorrow if TT flips town, mafia, or both? not really no I have no lynch plan other than tt and possibly calix | ||
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On September 11 2016 00:14 Damdred wrote: I've also explained why lurking is a scum trait of tt. You get info from all flips though this myth about info vs no information is silly. We have almost 40 pages of information with a push on tt you get info from and what people are pushing for. Besides that dead scum>alive scum and that's not actually true ticktock was afk for loads in the last game and was town | ||
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Fuba's point about knowing he plays shit day 1 is self awareness to the max and actually seemed quite honest in that regard. You say it could be mafia making excuses but I didn't think so in the beginning of the game and his play has countered his own meta because he's actually made points about NU. Speaking of those points they seemed like an extremely natural progression from thinking one thing and then being pointed out to an inconsistency (by vivax?) and then going aha! and realising he was wrong and doing loads of digging around a point he thought was very good. It looked inquisitive/cute and it made me feel really good about him. So there do something that doesn't involve fuba. | ||
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On September 11 2016 01:16 Tumblewood wrote: I encourage everyone to look past Hf's "infallible logic" and see that he is saying that a player with no more than 5 posts is guaranteed mafia. Hf is not a stupid person, but saying it with such fiery conviction is stupid. I guess you could call that a contradiction, but more importantly this has "pushing a mislynch" written all over it. my guess at a scumteam so far is hf/palmar/??? (possibly skynx for the dropoff, or Damdred for supporting Hf, or tt if you want to get tinfoily). I like grack's point on Palmar. honestly guys just listen to grack because he is far and away the smartest player this game. I have made super strong pushes just the same as this in many other games. Vivax has also SAID THAT ALREADY IN THIS GAME. Now, you admit it's a contradiction but yoh have failed to comment on my posts saying why it makes him mafia. If you are keen on continuing this push then fucking wreck my logic and show people how I'm mafia instead of these useless pushes that aren't convincing anyone. | ||
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Just because you can't accept I play this way as any alignment doesn't mean I'm mafia. | ||
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I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake. | ||
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On September 11 2016 01:35 Calix wrote: Uh, you DID say that. You just phrased it as a question which implies that fuba makes that kind of comment every game and never said otherwise until now. How is it a reaction test? The answer is obvious because a behaviour repeated by a player every game means that they do the behaviour regardless of alignment, thus said behaviour is NAI for them. With this in mind, what were you hoping to get out of that? No you made a shit case on a town read of mine, perhaps you should read my comment again. You said that fuba os mafia because he's setting himself up to play like shit with that post which is a mafia post. I'm simply asking if it becomes null if he plays like that every game and also since I got the opposite impression from the post when he posted it. | ||
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On September 11 2016 01:36 Skynx wrote: Sup mofos, I'll cook eat then sit here for rest of the night. Catch up and make posts instead of posting from behind the game permanently please. I'm suspicious of you slightly. | ||
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On September 11 2016 01:43 Calix wrote: I fail to see how it's a shit case, especially to you, when you made similar points against TT and Grack. I didn't say "fuba is mafia because he made X comment" - that is only a PART of my case against him. Even if he hadn't made that comment, the rest of my points stand strong. You didn't ask about wherever it becomes null. (you said 'not scummy' which is not the same thing as 'null') You haven't said what you were hoping or expecting to get from my reaction. I've given you what I've thought there's nothing more to discuss here. | ||
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Grack was purely association with tt because of all the hard defending and chainsaw posts, many sins. I still actually am sort of unsure of grack still despite calling him mafia. Tt is a massive lapse in thought process, forced entry etc etc. | ||
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On September 11 2016 02:39 Calix wrote: Ew no wtf. I've already explained that bussing is a horrible fucking strategy for Day 1. Town cred is overrated - nobody gives a shit about who voted for who on Day 1 when it comes to a LYLO situation. I've literally never seen anyone be saved from a lynch because "lol they voted for scum on D1" Well I am town and I'm defending TT with logical reasoning because scum have no incentive to stick their neck out for a lurker mislynch, so get the fuck off with that 'logic'. Your last sentence just serves to undermine everything you just said. 0/10, did not like this post whatsoever. Damdred' s post is correct and yours is semi correct. You don't bus for lylo cred. You can bus for normal cred though. | ||
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For some reason people think I'd do that two games in a row. Also, he was afk a shit load as town last game too. | ||
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Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you. Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc. Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment. You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done. | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:08 Skynx wrote: Man p34 is way too long but I'm kinda liking Gracks defence. HF you seem to be pretty convinced both Grack n TT are mafia which one are we lynching today? And what about the other one if todays lynch flips town? Catch up next time. | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote: I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"? No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM? No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'. If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him. Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy. Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why. Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town? | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote: Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said "oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense. How do you know those people aren't mafia???? | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:33 Skynx wrote: So TT is afk. HF sr's TT cuz according to meta TT should defend when pressured. Grack defends TT cuz HF's points is weak. HF sr's Grack cuz of defending an afk. Tumble sr's HF cuz his points are invalid. HF asks everyone to follow him cuz his reads are flawless. While Shapelog, Super, Palmar are all MIA and posted no content. fuba, calix and NU are fighting eachother for no reason. Damdred and Vivax are kinda in and out. game is hard. This is terrible fucking bs read. That's not why I'm mafia reading him at all. | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:45 Holyflare wrote: How do you know those people aren't mafia???? It's so bull shit there's 6 people not voting and half the gane barely posts things and you jump to some conclusion mafia is doing some stuff to push tt because he's town?? | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:50 Skynx wrote: You didn't like his wifom entry. You pressured him and he didn't defend. Those are your arguments around 35-40 am i not right? If not please tell cuz I'm not happy with TT lynch. No. Read again I even summarise my case during the pages multiple times. I don't think anyone that reads the thread properly can ever think this at all. I'll go find the quotes. | ||
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On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote: No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it. It's a very strong opening. But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because: On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote: This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following: "Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla." or "Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>" On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote: Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it. If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time. If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either. On September 10 2016 10:19 Holyflare wrote: My assumption, and it's a very logical assumption to make, is that he actually read/skimmed the entire thread and saw nobody made this point yet and as mafia found a way to look like he was contributing by posting "new information" since mafia love to blend and talk about mechanics. Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too. On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote: are you actually being fucking serious? he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read: a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said. SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset. Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia. Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be. | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:55 Calix wrote: I like how HF says that me saying "the scum are allowing a townie to die" is "jumping to a conclusion" It's a very simple argument to make about the stale TT wagon and lack of resistance. It's a shit argument. Gracj pushes off tt Nu wants damdred You use useless wifom shit There's onky 3 ppl on tt 5 people afk Tunble wants me Why is your argument the most simple one? It's nit because it's bull shit to fit your wifom agenda of not voting tt. Read my quotes EVERYONE IN THIS GAME. PROVE MY LOGIC IS WRONG OR VOTE TT. I'm actually sick of everyone dodging. | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:58 Holyflare wrote: It's a shit argument. Gracj pushes off tt Nu wants damdred You use useless wifom shit There's onky 3 ppl on tt 5 people afk Tunble wants me Why is your argument the most simple one? It's nit because it's bull shit to fit your wifom agenda of not voting tt. Read my quotes EVERYONE IN THIS GAME. PROVE MY LOGIC IS WRONG OR VOTE TT. I'm actually sick of everyone dodging. | ||
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I literally just proved why your wifom is bull shit and nothing has changed for you. You should lynch me so I can fire a bullet in your direction. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:09 Skynx wrote: So 1 meta, 1 shitposting, another meta, what u mean in 4th one i have no idea and one plynch argument. So you are referring to him calling the setup boring but he should read it boils down to being illogical therefore he must be scum. You say you are assuming here, a very logical assumption. How logical it is to assume this whole thing is very weak? Your case is based on meta, shitposting, assumption and policy. 2 of those above can be applied to 4 I've mentioned earlier, they are essentially same with ticktock with exception that they actually posted stuff. Therefore your strongest argument is the 'logical assumption' you made earlier which is debatable at best. What you write makes 0 sense. | ||
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Oddly enough i like grack and tumble for actually putting the effort to address it. Cal has said that she actually liked the tt case but isn't voting tt because it had 3 votes and wifom that's horrible and you should lynch her next cycle likely. Skyn js probably a good bet for mafia for continually being behind and when he's oosted something of substance on a topic he doesn't even know what he's talking about. He also town read me early in a super bad way, probably mafia. Damd probably towny after all. Palmar who the fuck knows but sheeping me is well smart. Shape i didn't hate his posts vut disappeared super too but wouldn't surprise me if they were mafia. Vivax underwhelming walls of text with hipster town reads and not enough crazy crap and also ignores damdred calling tt mafia for afk when he knows tt afks as town. Too many mafia. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:21 Skynx wrote: I mostly agree. TT, Shape, Super and Palmar are all plynches. Whats bothering me and what I've been trying to say over last few pages is TT is not as good of a lynch as other 3 because he is TOTALLY afk. Rest have been posting with no content whatsoever. Super just trolled and commented on setup for 3 entire pages of filter. Palmar said he will just not read or post. Shape posted walls of text that says nothing at all. But we are tunnelling on 1 guy that is actually away while 3 people we have more data that reliably suggests that they did jack shit all game but no one even considers them. This is a reasonable post and I retract my previous statement somewhat. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:32 Calix wrote: Being self-aware about your egotistical nature invalidates the point you were trying to make. You are the one making a point. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:34 Grackaroni wrote: It seems more like he's trying to paint TT scum than analyzing the game. I think that's especially evident in the long convoluted reasoning that is coming out of some minor inconsistency. Here's a pro tip. My mafia game plan is always and will always be to follow thread sentiment and be as malleable to enable mislynches as possible. Only push lynches when it causes chaos and makes other people look bad or I need a mislynch for a reason for the sake of having a read or pushing for a bad lynch. This is me believing a read. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:37 Palmar wrote: actually HF, give me the bitesize version: why is TT scum? (you can link to a post or just answer, but short pls cause attention span low, I am killing aliens in a boardgame too). He tried to copy trfel's town opening from last game and it looked really stiff and bad. His reads at the start of the game looked nothing like he opened last game and were just lines saying i like this post. He made a post with criticism of people being boring talking about mechanics and that he hasn't read it and posted about mechanics. I think this is a contradiction to his mindset and also he wouldn't post it because someone else could have posted the same thing. It looks like he knows what people have posted and made sure it was a hipster comment. He then went to dinner and died irl. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:45 Grackaroni wrote: Lynching mafia HF is my dream Palmar. Surely you can understand. Like that time you were so sure of lynching mafia hf in onegu 2 ok. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:46 Tumblewood wrote: do you realize that all of these things either you couldn't know are true or are not alignment indicative? What are you talking about? Trfel opened the exact same way last game. Vivax pointed that out this game and he had a response about it. The second point is entirely what he has said. The third and fourth are logical assumptions. Why would you waste time talking about boring things and why would you post something someone could have already posted? You don't. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:49 Tumblewood wrote: u literally fakeclaimed cop to get a lynch through and after the flip claimed that was a lie That's the fucking point you moron, I was town. Jesus christ. | ||
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On September 05 2016 16:37 Tictock wrote: Someone remind me to properly respond to Trfel's posts #1612 and 1613 later on, I'm getting called away and only skimmed them. This part jumped out at me though: I'm not a fan of the bolded statement here, I think it's more mafia sided thinking than town. Trfel is referring to his opening post here: Now town really will only start that game with a post like this to get reactions from people, and that is how I've been interpreting that post and is part of why I've been townreading Trfel most of the game. Starting the game off by trying to get reactions and push for info is a very towny thing to do, and that is what I thought Trfel was doing. However claiming that this open was to "not play under the radar" as Trfel is now saying, is much more mafia indicative. Mafia are usually very aware (maybe even nervous) about their opening and try to open in ways that either make them look town or don't draw much attention to themselves. Saying that he claimed scum to stand out then means that he was worried about how he looked at the start of the game. Ticktock post from last game. Any of that here? | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:21 Holyflare wrote: Ticktock post from last game. Any of that here? Quite literally damning. | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:26 Shapelog wrote: I here. I been sick last night and today with a 101.9 fever. Going try to catch as much as I can. How are you alive when the water on your body has boiled? | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:28 Superbia wrote: Can we all agree with me that we should lynch Calix if TT flips town even though I'm giving absolutely no reasons? Sou much wifom so much agree. | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:31 Tumblewood wrote: oh yeah I'm stupid if Hf gets lynched he's shooting tt actually that sounds like a win-win I would most likely shoot Calix over tt. | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:33 Grackaroni wrote: The Calix read was based entirely off the TT read wasn't it? A little bit of that and a total boat load of wifom and arguing. Very suspicious in general. | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:39 Superbia wrote: He's saying you will shoot TT if you die. You can only shoot someone when you die if you're town. Ahahahahahahahaha Tumblewood oh god. Thanks mate. | ||
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If tt is town that is why you are mafia because you got shown 5000 other wifom situations that make sense and you picked the right one. | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:48 Calix wrote: I already said that it looks like you're lining up lynches because it reads like you know what he will flip. Why else would you keep saying "if this happens, do X"? HF is also saying the same thing. "If TT is town, lynch Calix" When he was saying that I was scum with TT earlier. So no matter what, I am scum to HF. Heads he wins. Tails I lose. I guess that just makes you mafia then. | ||
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On September 11 2016 06:07 Holyflare wrote: But you think I'm mafia Why does Tumblewood keep taunting me? This is incongruent with his thought process entirely. He thinks I'm mafia so I've successfully got my mislynch and he's still taunting? Nah mate. Cakix +tw | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:47 Holyflare wrote: We explained why your reasons for thinking tt are town are literally the shittest in the game. You still push the rhetoric that yoir wifom is the correct logic though despite 5 people telling you otherwise. If tt is town that is why you are mafia because you got shown 5000 other wifom situations that make sense and you picked the right one. ^ Calix | ||
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On September 11 2016 06:11 Skynx wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/238343-player-replacement?page=16#302 We are all blind Oh. | ||
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On September 11 2016 06:12 Calix wrote: No they aren't. Thinking that a bad wagon is a town wagon because of a lack of resistance + scummy voters is using the thread to draw a conclusion. That's not a WIFOM situation. I'm going to quote all of your bad posts when I have a computer because they are real leaps. You scum read tt and when it looked like he's getting lynched WITH 3 PEOPLE you give wifom reasons that he's town because nobody is defending him. I give a list of 6 ppl diverting the lynch from tt and you keeo wifoming that he's not mafia for no real reason. Explain your logic to the thread again please it shouldn't be hard. | ||
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On September 11 2016 06:23 Tumblewood wrote: the last will stuff falls into sketchy rules area that may or may not result in mid action. I'd be careful and check with a host first. and Scott should shoot Hf. something something "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take" plus it means Hf won't get a chance to shoot calix Whenever you wanna stop slipping :D | ||
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On September 11 2016 06:54 NeverUnlucky wrote: If a train is utter shit, the trained player is in most cases TOWN. Calix and I have explained many times how the train was shit and that TT was most likely town given this. Do you not do VCA in TL? Also, we were pushing for Damdred, but it did not get attention because the scum were most likely drawing everyone's attention to TT, leaving our case in the shadows. If i recall you were concerned when people were jumping on tt who hadn't said much. She qas concerned when she agreed tt wws scummy, the person voting for him and making the case(me) should be likely towny and the other 2 weren't particularly suspicious. Literally 3 votes on a person and she called him town because of what mafia aren't doing even though 6 people were afj and any or all of them could be mafia. | ||
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On September 11 2016 07:02 Calix wrote: Showing that the scum-read on me for defending TT is shitty, duh. I'm asking for what intent I would have, as scum, to defend TT. Also if it wasn't obvious, I hate 'WIFOM' as a response. That's almost-always been a cop-out way of saying "I have no retort but I won't say as much" like seriously. You get a mislynch and you appear to not be on the wrong wagon while you point out how bad people are for joining it when "it's obviously a mislynch" as you've done by pointing to a list of me/super/damd post lynch. | ||
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On September 11 2016 07:52 NeverUnlucky wrote: I've reviewed Skynx's EoD filter, and I am mixed. For one, I can see his train of though evolving through his posts, and so his vote didn't feel forced. For two, and this point is sort of a contradiction to point one, he said that he was going to vote for He then started to argue with HF saying that his reasoning was bad and that he should feel bad. After, he says this Somehow TT sneaked into his lynch pool without previous notice. It's a big contradiction considering he disagreed with HF. For three, he says this He says that HF is painting TT as scum, but then votes him and says that it's a PL? I understand that he didn't have a strong scum-read, but voting someone who he acknowledges has aa shitty train on him is brutally bad when there were other possible PLs he himself proposed. The rest of his posts felt town, nothing to report. Conclusion: Despite his actions not matching his words and acting shady, I still think that Skynx is town because of his tone, his attempts to town-hunt (and thus scum-hunting by poe), his uncertainty, and his reasoning. Thoughts? Very goos point my friend i agree | ||
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On September 11 2016 11:03 Tumblewood wrote: this whole game is divided in half me, grack, fuba, calix, NU, skynx vs shape, Hf, super, palmar with Damdred and vivax chilling on the side this is not healthy for town. I think the piece we're missing is convincing everyone who was on tictock that calix isn't mafia for being off him. I should do that sometime This isn't us against them and you're the only one thinking that at all. | ||
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On September 11 2016 06:15 Tumblewood wrote: or did TMI get changed to Takes Minimal Intelligence and no one told me? ok I'm done being snarky for now. just know that Hf and two people between super/damdred/palmar/shape are the scum team, and grack is #1 best townie in the game. The 2/3 people that want calix lynched are all tw's scum reads and the only thing tw thinks is a good idea is to make a TOWN case on a player his mafia reads are pushing that was really bad and didn't really display towniness at all. I seem ti remember mafia tw making tmi town cases on me and someone else mentioned it. It's really off, coupled with the 4 or 5 slips. | ||
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Tw's plan this game is defend people that don't need defending for no reason and push me. Abd he's fucked up calling me town and he called tt town in a slip too although slips basically mean nothing but they're there. Basically i lynch people that make cases that can't possibly be made with the information normal people have. | ||
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He basically shut down my posts by saying "no that's not what he's thinking" DESPITE tt actually saying that is what he was thinking meaning tw was defending tt WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT HE SAID THIS GAME Best post in the game imo will quote later. | ||
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On September 11 2016 21:19 Calix wrote: It always makes me laugh when people say "I don't care" because if you didn't, you wouldn't feel the need to tell me that you cared. Actually no it's because I love telling people they're opinions are worthless. | ||
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On September 11 2016 21:06 Holyflare wrote: Best post in the game imo will quote later. | ||
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On September 11 2016 22:27 Damdred wrote: Nothing that's posted makes me scum and honestly calix is creating a narrative that just fits what they want to see. Sk might be scum I'm not sure the inconsitincies are more scum leaning but not,sure. Anyway I'll probably be around some,then be here later on Monday. Also I expected more from you hf. Why? I don't have time to be good at this game anymore. Apart from nailing tw to a wall. | ||
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On September 11 2016 21:04 Holyflare wrote: Because you're scummy to me and I'm a great player and you do look like you pick the correct wifom every time despite everything we say and lots of good players agree and i don't rate tw as an amazing top tier player yet he made an entire weak case on you being town and keeps yelling about it and it's pretty much the only substantial thing that he's done other than arguing how tt wasn't mafia (again tmi) despite tt doing mafia looking things and afking. He basically shut down my posts by saying "no that's not what he's thinking" DESPITE tt actually saying that is what he was thinking meaning tw was defending tt WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT HE SAID THIS GAME. Tw's plan this game is defend people that don't need defending for no reason and push me. Abd he's fucked up calling me town and he called tt town in a slip too although slips basically mean nothing but they're there. Basically i lynch people that make cases that can't possibly be made with the information normal people have. | ||
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On September 12 2016 01:19 Vivax wrote: Need to pack stuff and travel for a bit will pop in later. wow master of fucking dodging game changing points here | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + #1: I did exaggerate the case but I did believe my points were accurate #2: I think that contradicting your own logic in your post is scummy as shit and mechanics talk is an easy cop out for mafia, I've lynched people for contradictory posts before. #3 I've pushed hard on people before as town early in the game. #4: My defence and criticising you was scummy but I jumped straight into my town game to defend myself which means I know i'm playing like my town game anyway lynch TW | ||
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On September 12 2016 05:38 Grackaroni wrote: What I love most about this theory is the part where we go: "Let's double team HF and then turn on each other once he's looking lynchable!" you know what a better strategy is? not bussing the better 1/3 of your mafia team when I could have just lynched tt regardless | ||
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On September 12 2016 05:38 Grackaroni wrote: What I love most about this theory is the part where we go: "Let's double team HF and then turn on each other once he's looking lynchable!" ^ bad theory ^ how the game would have went if I was mafia EITHER WAY WE LYNCH TW OK? | ||
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No those are my reasons I can't explain them any better than I have. I fully believe that HF was trying to make TT seem scummier than he was. On September 10 2016 09:51 Holyflare wrote: It's not a big secret that I've made over exaggerated cases on people to generate discussion before but this one isn't just over exaggerated I'm actually pretty sure on it and it's definitely based off the first post he made that was imitating tfel's post from last game when vivax posted it out that led me there. | ||
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On September 12 2016 06:04 Vivax wrote: Wut? He said it before the lynch, he then flipped town, so Damdred's meta turned out to be wrong. Why should I jump on somebody just for being wrong? The meta was legit, but turned out shitty. I might as well jump on anyone else for being on TT. But it was a solid lynch. I'm more concerned that I spotted the same pattern adopted on TT being used by you, but it's a big picture thing, and Damdred wasn't nearly as hyperbole as you on TT, or TW now. are you for fucking real? you were just in a game where ticktock afkd for almost 72 hours and was town, how was Damdred's meta legit?? | ||
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On September 12 2016 06:30 Skynx wrote: Nice kill, prevented another embarrasment for hf. another person who hasn't read the thread | ||
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maybe tw thought she was towniest maybe mafia thought she was a medic dodge maybe mafia thought she implicated someone maybe mafia just wanted to kill a towny On September 12 2016 06:38 Skynx wrote: HF you're irish catholic right? no? | ||
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On September 12 2016 06:50 Tumblewood wrote: this is an impressive lack of critical thinking I am scum. calix is the person I am most heavily connected with (not as in people think we're scum partners but interrelated). the reason calix dies is because she's towniest? no way it's impressive because there's 0 critical thinking at all which was my point, it's useless to talk about | ||
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On September 12 2016 06:50 NeverUnlucky wrote: It's not getting the setup wrong, it's TMIing why Calix was killed. SCUMSLIP. if there's no medic protect then how the fuck is it tmi that she's a medic dodge?? | ||
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On September 12 2016 06:56 Vivax wrote: Tbh I'm mostly waiting for Palmar to most something super smart, today I have enacted my zero tolerance policy for vets (fascist policy). If we enact more of these fascist policies we get to shoot Palmar, who I think could be Hitler, and outright win this game. Curse that last will for making me think all of this. can you ever comment on the actual gameplay points I've raised or are you just going to complain more? | ||
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On September 11 2016 21:04 Holyflare wrote: Because you're scummy to me and I'm a great player and you do look like you pick the correct wifom every time despite everything we say and lots of good players agree and i don't rate tw as an amazing top tier player yet he made an entire weak case on you being town and keeps yelling about it and it's pretty much the only substantial thing that he's done other than arguing how tt wasn't mafia (again tmi) despite tt doing mafia looking things and afking. He basically shut down my posts by saying "no that's not what he's thinking" DESPITE tt actually saying that is what he was thinking meaning tw was defending tt WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT HE SAID THIS GAME. Tw's plan this game is defend people that don't need defending for no reason and push me. Abd he's fucked up calling me town and he called tt town in a slip too although slips basically mean nothing but they're there. Basically i lynch people that make cases that can't possibly be made with the information normal people have. On September 11 2016 21:06 Holyflare wrote: Best post in the game imo will quote later. | ||
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either way I'm a good mafia player that's nothing new and I don't really care if you admit you're just afraid but I'm not arguing people into oblivion I'm trying to get people to actually discuss mafia reads here | ||
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and also scott trusts me thanks to his last will so I figured out his message A++ scott | ||
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directly copied from this web page because it's the only one that contains the shitty comma with no space post 1267 is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/513523-haunted-mansion-3?page=64#1267 On September 11 2016 06:14 Damdred wrote: Didn't lynch me today not lynching me d2 which is either him calling damdred town or irrelevant or 1267 of the himalayas game that he shadowed me On June 18 2015 09:59 NydusHerMain wrote: I just got home from climbing. I left off at page 50 and I'm pretty much skipping to this page for a bit until I feel like reading but I'd skip anything I wrote in terms of Onegu and any discussion/interaction regarding it and I'd skip bugs and RS fighting. which is more irrelevant basically why the fuck are you wasting your time talking about someone who has less information than you are because he was a replacement and didn't even play in the game but he did call me town because i'm the one he shadowed so trust that read | ||
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On September 12 2016 08:19 Palmar wrote: And even if your analysis is correct, I'm fairly sure it simply means that he's checking damdred. aka, we should follow his vote if it's on damdred, except of course for the fact mafia can fuck with his vote so we might as well ignore this until like day 3 or 4 or whatever superbia and I came up with on day 1. Oh well it could be that :D | ||
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On September 12 2016 08:37 Vivax wrote: Encrypted last wills, or how to turn a game of mafia into a Dan Brown book. Back to real business fun's over. A little test for HF if you will, finding out who wrote this before answering is against the rules, play fair: 1. Is bolded true? 2. Do you think this post is scummy? 3. Do you think this would ever be able to reach a correct conclusion as to your alignment and this player would believe he could? 4. Once you find out who posted this (you may now), why does he mention you in this way after stating another intention in writing this? A few more would come to mind but that'd be an assault on your attention span. I answered to your Damdred stuff, manus manum lavat. Yeh too many people were calling tt town and a mislynch at eod for him to be mafia even though he'd done shit all (at the time hence my scum read on cal for being hipster mafia which changed after tw's bs case). It's not scummy if it's followed up on. No because I'm solving the game for myself so whoever deems any alignment indicative information from me wanting an information flip either has tmi calling me town or knows me extremely extremely well or is wrong and calls it scummy. I don't really see mafia flipping for info anyway. That's asking me to find the post which I'm not gonna lie I did before even though you told me not to cheat. I don't think tje specific quote you pulled is bad in any way and i cba to read the whole post again so just tell me why it's weird. I've become exceptionally lazy in mafia recently it bugs md to do any work. | ||
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What happened to your super scum read vivax? | ||
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Uhhh also you should vote on the name on /m11 if damdred is mafia | ||
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Grack's case is even based on incorrect meta and no real good game info. | ||
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On September 12 2016 09:26 NeverUnlucky wrote: Stick your head out of your ass for a moment and look at Damdred and at how he is trying to pocket you. Do you realise that you are only tunneling the low hanging fruits? (AFK guy, lynchbait-TW) When did I say damdred is town? | ||
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Sometimes lynch bait is mafia. | ||
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Good times. I have no idea why you don't even read your scum reads posts (i do because you're mafia) but you can read the past 4 pages of my filter where I've spammed 100 things about you. | ||
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You'll find me much more reasonable to talk to/discuss cases with tomorrow. | ||
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Either way yes yes damdred. | ||
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On September 12 2016 23:22 Tumblewood wrote: this would be a useful question to ask: hf, as scum, would you have killed me for my reads? 0/20 times, I would shit up the thread instead | ||
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On September 13 2016 01:23 Vivax wrote: You mean you're bussing fuba cause otherwise you wouldn't like my case? Alright. If you really want to give me a hand try to turn this into a case game (for the rest of the players) cause a lot of the discussion so far is people randomly throwing reads out there I feel, which you claimed to hate. Don't break my heart I was kidding. I'll vote fuba with you. Do some more digging on skyn plz cos he's super outlier and defended tt case and didn't even realise what i was pushing tt for. Did sjyn end up voting tt? | ||
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Fuba's last post had a towny tone but I don't know if I'm getting wall of reasonable texted. You better solve the game if you don't want lynches fuba. | ||
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On September 13 2016 15:41 Holyflare wrote: You gonna ignore fuba forever? | ||
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That makes fuba madia and vivax made that case but you want to shoot vivax? | ||
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A) he's extremely likely to be mafia B) we don't have to read his comments on every single post we've already read but 24 hours later | ||
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I don't actually have an opinion on him he's underwhelming but he doesn't seem to give a shit which is confusing and slightly towny. Probably because I haven't read his filter even though I was supposed to, oops. | ||
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On September 14 2016 04:28 Skynx wrote: If you're mafia well played for getting ez tr's spamming the shit out of thread and convincing 10 others here you actually got a case on a policy lynch. On September 11 2016 06:01 Rels wrote: Day 1 final votecount Tictock (6): Holyflare, fuba, Holyflare (3): Tumblewood, Grackaroni, Calix Tumblewood (1): Superbia (1): Damdred (1): Calix (0): Skynx (0): fuba (0): Not Voting (1): Tictock Why are you so mad when you voted on the same wagon? | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:48 Skynx wrote: Alright here is the deal people: TT is just soo hit and miss. He barely posted anything therefore no content to analyse properly. HF is tunnelled for whatever meta reason he has and blindly sheeping him is nuts. TT is basically a plynch at this point but there are 2-3 others with similar no content no opinion just shitposting filters. Can we please reconsider our lynch? | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:57 Skynx wrote: Hey man I'm scum I'm lightly trying to distance myself from the mislynch we're having right now lul Does Skynx have the balls to make this post? | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:01 Skynx wrote: Anyway I don't even know what to think about you two. Vivax, NU, TW, Grack are my town pile. I didn't even read this whole shitfest about fuba votes but I hardly noticed him today. Shape and Damdred I'm voting today. Palmar kinda picked up the game but still trolly, prolly town tho or i dunno Why Shapelog when you said his filter was a lot better than you thought it was? | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:21 Palmar wrote: which one is the cop one? Vengeful voting shape which is manipulated | ||
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On September 12 2016 08:59 Holyflare wrote: Hey scott if you're reading this your vote is likely to get manipulated now so my bad. Uhhh also you should vote on the name on /m11 if damdred is mafia Didn't happen it's manipulated | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:33 Palmar wrote: ignoring the manipulated vote is fine, honestly. Mafia knows we know it's manipulated, so it's just a trashcan of wifom that we should ignore. I'm not gonna townread shapelog based on it, I think. Nah but i can mafia read for vivax for not even knowing about my plan despite commenting on things around the time it was being made and then using it as bs wifom to scum read more people now. | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:35 Superbia wrote: HF what do you think of my point on Vivax? It's good but mafia vivax won't have the steam to continue his charade so leave him to suffer | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:37 Palmar wrote: I noticed you stopped doing this, but this is essentially the same as just PM-ing someone. This is against the spirit of the game. Don't do it again. No it's not I can be mafia and be lying easily | ||
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Damdred says tt mafia meta is to afk Vivax agrees despite seeing tt afk in star wars as town I call out vivax and he spouts nonsense | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:42 Damdred wrote: How the flying fuck have I fallen off the face of,the earth when I've be an posting pre try regularly the past hour. I just don't get it Your last post being 30 minutes ago that's how | ||
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On September 14 2016 06:00 Damdred wrote: Wow super, maybe I was wrong on super good thing I get a gun. Cause I'll,come for you. Ok this is a bs after cycle post tbat confirms damdred mafia taking advantage of the vote count he knows is on shape. ^ i have this copy and pasted | ||
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On September 14 2016 06:14 Vivax wrote: Case: - HF attacks me voting Shape for the VS vote. - Slowly realizing shape is in danger of being lynched, he actually reads his filter (first time?). Shitty defense. - When enough pressure built up, the bus ensued after he spent the entire day trying to murder other people. Or i didn't really give a shit and thought damdred looked marginally more townie and thought the manipulated vote could be a double bluff on a team mate. I called out shape's filter earlier ty for reading though. | ||
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You hear a voice that sounds like Calix: ... Much heko, many thanks Wow | ||
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This is really fucking strange from Tumble. I have never seen Tumble act like this besides the last game he played in. He was town that game, but.... Just it doesn't feel like at all how tumble plays. Tumble as town is pretty good, and for him to vote with Skynx based off of Previous game vote records...... I don't even know what to make of it. It just like I think this is a shape bus on tumble cs he admits he loves to bus he says that tumble post is like his last post where he was town but scum reads him anyway It reads like a mafia thinking his partner's post is scummier than it is. | ||
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On September 14 2016 07:44 Grackaroni wrote: You voted Shapelog with skynk/tw/vivax after spending the better part of the EoD arguing these guys were mafia while also saying that the vs vote was a scum vote. I don't see how you could ever agree with that lynch as town. I didn't vote with them i voted for myself. I also voted before Skynx had even said anything. Damdy sounded towny and I simply voted the counter wagon. I didn't like some of his filter, i thought the vote could be wifom to put people off a team mate too. Unless you think damdy is mafia too then I pretty much saved his life for no reason other than to look bad for voting with vivax who I'm not even scum reading incredibly much and less so if i decide damdred is town. Simple fact is i voted mafia when i didn't need to | ||
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On September 14 2016 07:52 Damdred wrote: I'm off hf list again, oh how the world turns What can i say I'm in a flippant mood | ||
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On September 14 2016 06:59 Holyflare wrote: I think this is a shape bus on tumble cs he admits he loves to bus he says that tumble post is like his last post where he was town but scum reads him anyway It reads like a mafia thinking his partner's post is scummier than it is. Good post | ||
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Then he posted a wall of text explaining his vote and it looked less scummy. And also the fact is i just didn't care about who i voted for all that much and i voted on a wagon that didn't have a guy who looked a bit towny. It's not scummy at all. I don't care if it had scum reads on because those can and likely will be wrong but gut feels and shenanigans are always awesome. | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:50 Damdred wrote: Skynx is scum, his progression has been,shaky at best. When co,fronted with things he has manipulated his postings (posting them out of,order) to better line up with his reasoning. His progression doesn't make sense. He has no clear direction and lurks until he is called out in thread, his tone is eagerly different is letting other people do,the work without doing any of his cases or pushes. Is just fitting in and sidelined. Shaoelog is second, his soft push on skynx without any type of real,follow up and weak reasoning to agree with me feels like some way to lightly distance himself from sky if he was to,flip and I brought the lynch home. He also promised several times to do work bit never dis it. Earlier in the thread also he was angry and rather harsh when he normally wouldn't be as town. Not really involved in the thick of,th I,vs or,fixing reads just posting long posts and surviving up till now. The third I'm torn on I think we aren't,paying enough attention to never at this point, he has a couple,of res flags and fits the scum team. Look at his sky read during the night it reads like he should scum read him but town reads him instead. He does the same thing to tw, also he says he's coin,g around on me and then at day slams the vote down and,doesn't care about anything the rest of day. Effectively doing the same thing he yelled at us for on tt yesterday. You better follow this up. | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:57 Holyflare wrote: ##unvote ##vote Shapelog On September 14 2016 05:57 Skynx wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Shapelog I think you'll find I voted first. On September 14 2016 05:55 Holyflare wrote: I think damdred is town On September 14 2016 05:56 Skynx wrote: Fuck me: Shape/Super/Palmar Damdy is town fuck fuck fuck and called damdred town first welcome to the holyflare rekt me club, you are one of several members that earns the privilege of shutting the fuck up while I continue to kill more mafia | ||
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On September 15 2016 04:02 Grackaroni wrote: I've already got my next guess lined up for 4:59. let me guess me and skynx somehow shocker | ||
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On September 15 2016 03:18 Grackaroni wrote: I'm especially interested to hear what Palmar thinks of this point. I do like this point though | ||
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"hf disproved all my logic and actually said it before me but he's still mafia"??????????????? ??????????????? ??????? | ||
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palmar folds over and is non-chalant about kill decisions, just shoots active people bla bla vivax is irrelevant and would actually shoot skynx regardless because: a) to implicate me b) it's someone on shape wagon that isn't him or me and isn't inactive On September 14 2016 02:40 Vivax wrote: I already explained why I think skynx is town, one particular post caught my attention. Will find it later but now I gtg. Vote fuba boys. he town read him too i don't know how anyone else plays mafia but it's irrelevant since skynx was also scum reading NU too wifomwifomwifomwifom but now what's hilarious is that you're saying i killed one of my only scum reads for 0 reason over vivax/palmar/bla/bla/bla | ||
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On September 15 2016 07:27 Tumblewood wrote: who was a good kill? Whoever is town out of palmar/vivax/nu | ||
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Ghost bannish: Spectral (can be used even if dead). Once per game at night, you can disable any protection that happens during the night. Ghost curse: Once per game at night, you can target one player. If that person is protected by the benevolent ghosts' protection, he will die. If that person is targeted by the spirit's KP, he will protected from it. Vote vivax right now. He fucked up not killing me big time. | ||
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If it's all mislynches from now then: 1 night action: 5-2 2 night action: 3-2 End game Mafia would have just 2! Nights left to use two powers and that's not even if they overlap them! We just lynched a mafia and vivax made a case on him and voted on the wifom spectral vote and he's not dead??? | ||
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On September 15 2016 08:40 Grackaroni wrote: HF why haven't you been pushing me this game? I don't think you've particularly done any mafia things to push and i haven't read any of your filter sooo. | ||
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Here's my theory in case it's confusing: Vivax is mafia but if vivax is mafia he can't die at night. Killing me would be the best move to get rid of a person who can shit all over a mafia team but if I die that raises questions of why me over vivax. Then you'd reach tomorrow and vivax wouldn't die. You would again ask the question why isn't vivax dead? Then the suspicion is too great and he's mafia. This theory is kill Skynx off and kill hf if he doesn't get called out and lynched this cycle because he's scum read by a lot of people (look who's left alive, everyone that scum reads me) and then if hf gets killed tomorrow nobody is suspicious that vivax is still alive still since he is a powerful town guy. This theory works for a lot of the vets really but especially vivax who should have got the most cred. No way mafia aren't using their abilities for that and kill Skynx unless it's a plan by mafia. | ||
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On September 11 2016 03:02 Vivax wrote: Still unsure about fuba. Went through the guys voting TT atm and HF was the guy who originated that scumread, superbia chimed in but decided to instead vote TW for his read on TT. Haven't heard much from him since. Damdred adds to HF's points that his entrance was forced, that TT lurks as scum. As for fuba I have no clue what his reasons for voting TT are. The closest I got was this. Where he says to check his post above, but in that post he's adressing NUs posts. So still no clue what fubas reason for the vote on TT are. On page 1 he spends more time talking about TW than TT whom he's voting. If anyone has any idea what fuba is voting TT for, enlighten me. His biggish posts are townie but that might be wall of text bias. On September 12 2016 06:04 Vivax wrote: Wut? He said it before the lynch, he then flipped town, so Damdred's meta turned out to be wrong. Why should I jump on somebody just for being wrong? The meta was legit, but turned out shitty. I might as well jump on anyone else for being on TT. But it was a solid lynch. I'm more concerned that I spotted the same pattern adopted on TT being used by you, but it's a big picture thing, and Damdred wasn't nearly as hyperbole as you on TT, or TW now. Vivax accepting bull shit tt meta to allow him to be lynched after just seeing tt afk for 72 hours in star wars. | ||
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On September 12 2016 08:37 Vivax wrote: Encrypted last wills, or how to turn a game of mafia into a Dan Brown book. Back to real business fun's over. A little test for HF if you will, finding out who wrote this before answering is against the rules, play fair: 1. Is bolded true? 2. Do you think this post is scummy? 3. Do you think this would ever be able to reach a correct conclusion as to your alignment and this player would believe he could? 4. Once you find out who posted this (you may now), why does he mention you in this way after stating another intention in writing this? A few more would come to mind but that'd be an assault on your attention span. I answered to your Damdred stuff, manus manum lavat. Top of the post vivax comments about me and Scott with spectral votes etc. I'd like to townread shapelog cause the fuba stuff started jumping to me when I found the energy to actually read his posts (which still ended up being only his last filter page and some from the early game) and he mentioned fubas flip floppy post parts, but it also felt like he was casually throwing suspicion at me at some points which seemed out of character. But other than this his early posts seemed townie to me. Town reads Shapelog. Scum reads fuba and suoer all day (since day 1?) On September 14 2016 01:18 Vivax wrote: Either way I have a dinner in 2-3 hours, dunno if I can make it for EoD. It's really really important we get a wagon going on fuba or super I don't want to come back and see a shenanny lynch. Going to take a closer look at Damdred, just gut wise he has been appearing scummier than when he was mafia in his last games (which would mean he's town) . This game feels like one of the games where everyone relies on tone reading people and when somebody (read:I) goes for post analysis it's rejected as irrelevant. Remember the me vs you vs yamato lylo damdred? Fuba/damd/super scum reads and disappears to dinner (aka not playing the game at all) In other words, I think mafia is still super/fuba + shape/palmar/HF if alive for too long. Shape especially has dropped off a lot activity wise and if anyone is going to shenanny, shenanny on shape. I'll join you if I make it, at least one of the unreadables will be gone. Don't really have much else to add on him. Suddenly his town read on shape disappeared and me/palmar anr shape appear in a list. On September 14 2016 05:18 Vivax wrote: I'm back. Damdred is being voted by calix, presumably, and Shape by scott. Fuba is a read magnet when it comes to his posts. It feels like lots of people think he's town but keep calling his posts bad. If neither fuba nor super are happening I'm voting Shape. Not going to sit on solely my own wagon this time. Suddenly he can't be bothered to push his wagons and doesn't want to vote into damdred or Skynx (his Skynx towm read being literally one sentence btw) and he afks on a vote he knows was potentially messed with because he acknowledged the happenings earlier. On September 14 2016 05:45 Vivax wrote: What if he doesn't think damdred is mafia? All this vote bullshit is wifom anyway I literally don't care about the vote I care about shape being the person I want to lynch next if we don't get super or fuba. You can wifom ride all you want it's not going to save him from me. The leeway time for my regular game buds is over. His first page is fear mongering on me all the time without ever calling me mafia. He spends an entire post discussing how a guide to reading him by rsoultin is wrong, in answer to Damdred. He spent the post arguing against Damdred that his TR on shape is wrong, basically. I'm still trying to figure out if there's more. The best thing I can think of in his defense is that he pointed out how fuba was flip floppy on some points. But otherwise I'm really unimpressed by shape this game, he loves to motivate town with youtube vids as well as town which is lacking this moment. He usually also is a much more constant presence. Not this in and out shape. And then there's the PoE, I'm certainly not ending on a wagon that HF/fuba/Palmar/super were on first, besides that I don't think Damdred and Skynx are our best lynches for today. Remember when vivax town read shape and being faced with a manipulated vote wanted to be a hipster? | ||
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I'd like to townread shapelog cause the fuba stuff started jumping to me when I found the energy to actually read his posts (which still ended up being only his last filter page and some from the early game) and he mentioned fubas flip floppy post parts, but it also felt like he was casually throwing suspicion at me at some points which seemed out of character. But other than this his early posts seemed townie to me. All this vote bullshit is wifom anyway I literally don't care about the vote I care about shape being the person I want to lynch next if we don't get super or fuba. You can wifom ride all you want it's not going to save him from me. The leeway time for my regular game buds is over. His first page is fear mongering on me all the time without ever calling me mafia. He spends an entire post discussing how a guide to reading him by rsoultin is wrong, in answer to Damdred. He spent the post arguing against Damdred that his TR on shape is wrong, basically. I'm still trying to figure out if there's more. The best thing I can think of in his defense is that he pointed out how fuba was flip floppy on some points. But otherwise I'm really unimpressed by shape this game, he loves to motivate town with youtube vids as well as town which is lacking this moment. He usually also is a much more constant presence. Not this in and out shape. Relevant quotes from same day. Miraculous read turnaround. Gets his strongest scum read from shape. Fuck shape is so mafia for these reasons that existed when i town read him. Screw my scum reads here's a random wagon. - vivax 'the mafia' nubbins | ||
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But now I'm mafia because I made some good nk wifom and actually proved his read was bull shit? | ||
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These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me. | ||
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On September 15 2016 11:10 Grackaroni wrote: Well no if Vivax is mafia it's for withholding thoughts on Shapelog. He didn't ditch a scum read on Damdred as I've already explained. But yeah I spend a lot of time wavering and that pushed me back a bit. I never even mentioned anything about damdred. I'm saying he bull shitted a reason to switch on his partner to look good later when Shapelog dies (could have been modkilled). He didn't wager damdred would look towny and me and skynx switch. There's no way vivax TOWN READS Shapelog and goes to dinner and MAGICALLY finds a reason to scum read Shapelog who he town reads and who he got his main scum read (fuba) from. He showed absolutely no hesitancy when I told him the votes were manipulated either. None whatsoever. | ||
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On September 15 2016 11:14 Grackaroni wrote: Who are you referring to here? Well activity wise you are a very strong scum player. I still think you do a lot of stupid things like make reads you wouldn't make as town and I thought you were scum in the obs QT as well. Quote reads or this is bull shit. I can explain every read and move I make. As mafia I'm 100x more careful. | ||
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On September 15 2016 12:09 Grackaroni wrote: Ah I see you are referring to a different post than the original Shapelog read. I went back to check and he is literally the first one to suggest Shape. He did so even before TW. Where? | ||
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On September 15 2016 12:53 Grackaroni wrote: Let me ask you this, do you have any reason not to kill Palmar right now? Yes | ||
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On September 15 2016 23:14 Damdred wrote: Hi i'm here now somewhat, should be more active tonight. Theres no reason for HF, Palmar or vivax to be alive today over the people killed. This is obvious wifom, I sort of legitimately think HF is town though for somewhat bad reasoning beside the other things hes done in the game (the bad reasoning is his dumb tell he did earlier in the game about calix being a medic dodge). I really need to reread game and look at votes from yesterday and d1, but even super is bothering me now for whatever reason. That's a dumb reason because i don't read the op as any alignment and in the last mafia qt i even got it wrong. Regardless I posted an absolutely great case on bivax and he is instead afk voting for me? That's grade a absolute bull shit. | ||
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He also didn't fucking bother following up his Skynx mafia read probably because he was killing him. I don't believe town damd says these things. Vivax/damd good team. | ||
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On September 14 2016 06:14 Vivax wrote: Case: - HF attacks me voting Shape for the VS vote. - Slowly realizing shape is in danger of being lynched, he actually reads his filter (first time?). Shitty defense. - When enough pressure built up, the bus ensued after he spent the entire day trying to murder other people. Your case is that I voted mafia to look the absolute worst I could before other people even voted Shapelog. How can I preemptively predict 3 other people switching to Shapelog? You're also ignoring that people only switched when i called dandred town and switched so you could say I was instrumental in this lynch too. That's the worst case I've ever read in my life. You need to answer my case if you're town which is unlikely. | ||
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On September 15 2016 23:00 Vivax wrote: HF reasoning is mostly based on the NK. It incriminates him but cause it does, it doesn't and wifomwifomwifom. I didn't see any reason not to just lynch HF today back at night start, I don't see any today. The case stands just ignore him kicking and screaming. If HF flips town I'll reconsider but there's no way I'll vote anyone other than HF today. Just sheep for an easy day 3. Oh yeh next time I'll write the nk wifom from a mafia perspective sorry. There's an entire fabricated Shapelog vote you must explain. | ||
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But you can't. You don't care enough, you're left with me and there's no motivation for mafia vivax to play because mafia vivax hates playing. You don't want a wall or towny text hf spewing all over the thread. You're a pussy mafia vivax. | ||
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I want vivax to fight, that's why it's a vivax bait. | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:59 Superbia wrote: I feel for you shapelog =/ Sick and mafia. On September 14 2016 04:36 Superbia wrote: Honestly I'd want to kill shape or grack today. Shape as scum makes a lot of sense with the game's general direction. On September 14 2016 04:41 Superbia wrote: Shape where the fuck you at. On September 14 2016 04:42 Superbia wrote: Shape's filter is pretty townie. =/ On September 14 2016 04:47 Superbia wrote: I recall shape as mafia being super scared of my obvious fake cop check in storm mafia. He's a very paranoid mafia player. When he reacts to people calling him mafia it's confident and aggressive. can you explain why it changed towards deadline? | ||
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On September 14 2016 08:25 Holyflare wrote: You've just quoted exactly things that prove my point? I didn't like vivax ignoring posts that he was around to see, it looked scummy as fuck. Then he posted a wall of text explaining his vote and it looked less scummy. And also the fact is i just didn't care about who i voted for all that much and i voted on a wagon that didn't have a guy who looked a bit towny. It's not scummy at all. I don't care if it had scum reads on because those can and likely will be wrong but gut feels and shenanigans are always awesome. | ||
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He was your town read, he gave you your biggest scum read on fuba, nothing changed other than 0 posts and he suddenly became your lynch choice when people were piling on damdred, it didn't make sense when damdred was also your scum read. It looked like your team mate was afk and you wanted to not be on a potentially town damdred wagon and decided to just make up bull shit to be on him to look good later | ||
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If damdred is mafia I look 1000000x better staying on him. If damdred is town then I don't lost a mislynch either. If damdred is mafia then I yell a shit tonne and get more cred and make you look awful. but my mafia tactic was to say absolutely nothing with force and instead vote with my scum reads who weren't particularly my scum reads and look bad? | ||
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On September 16 2016 05:14 Vivax wrote: Damdred was my scum read? He was in nullish pile all the time I decided to give it a go at TRing him EoD and all my reasoning is laid out. Stop inventing things it's pitiful yes I forget you mentioned the main lynch wagon only once and said he was incredibly scummy but called him town | ||
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On September 15 2016 03:54 Holyflare wrote: the town mindset is I didn't want to vote a guy that sounded townie and I have no qualms killing an afk guy that has several scummy bits in his filter simple i don't care if all my scum reads are voting for him why would I ever vote someone that sounds like he's town? | ||
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You are living up to mafia vivax and doing NO work here at all. You've even already made an excuse about doing nothing today but lynching me. It's typical mafia vivax. Meanwhile I've been finding everything I can about people's filters and quoting posts and doing all the leg work while everyone sits back and does nothing. You like a case based game, you're one of the biggest scum reads today, skynx died over you for no reason whatsoever, the biggest scummy bull shit is this: If you really want to do NK analysis, here's what Skynx got iced for cause HF was confident that Tumble would be easy to manipulate. This applies to you, if you're so obviously towny and had such a solid scum read on shapelog then why aren't you dead?!?!?!?!?!? Disregarding all of this you keep spouting on about how it was some bs defence of shape for scum reading you ignoring the manipulated vote, that's just a question and it's the most basic question "why is this guy voting for someone when we've talked about the vote and it's manipulated", no defence, it's scummy to do and a perfect question to ask when you're voting someone nobody was on. | ||
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On September 14 2016 08:07 Holyflare wrote: I didn't vote with them i voted for myself. I also voted before Skynx had even said anything. Damdy sounded towny and I simply voted the counter wagon. I didn't like some of his filter, i thought the vote could be wifom to put people off a team mate too. Unless you think damdy is mafia too then I pretty much saved his life for no reason other than to look bad for voting with vivax who I'm not even scum reading incredibly much and less so if i decide damdred is town. Simple fact is i voted mafia when i didn't need to | ||
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Why is it scummy to vote the only other alternative wagon when you start town reading the other one? | ||
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All you guys have to do is dismiss this vivax case as nai/towny and then ask him to start putting in more work. Then you will see the truth. | ||
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If anyone believes vivax case tell me what you do in a situation where you have someone projecting town at lynch and the other wagon has a mediocre filter and his wagon is full of wifom and you can't possibly lynch anybody else in that time. If your answer is anything other than vote to save town read then you're bad. | ||
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I have no idea why people who keep spouting that vivax is lazy mafia and has no passion won't vote him to see if he becomes productive or keeps copy pasting his same old crap. | ||
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My case is out there, vivax's case on me is out there, if you have questions about those specifics then ask and I will oblige. For now I'll try and pump out some info. | ||
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On September 16 2016 23:42 Vivax wrote: Carrier has arrived I'm gonna be frank with you, I really think the nk implicates you heavily and I don't care if it's bad play thinking like that. I think out of all the shape posts I've read yours/damds/super's look the worst. I genuinely want you to respond to my case, I don't want to overlook something because that person is being stubborn. | ||
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you force us to be as productive as you possibly can to get a proper read on us and force Mafia's hand. I have no idea why people who keep spouting that vivax is lazy mafia and has no passion won't vote him to see if he becomes productive or keeps copy pasting his same old crap. | ||
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On September 17 2016 05:10 fuba wrote: I'm really tempted to switch to HF for no reason that I can accurately convey. Might be grack's undying love. If I understand the votes right, skynx+calix voted on damdred, scott voted HF. That's... hmmm... Skynx seemed positive of HF scum. Seems tampered with. Are you mafia? Have you read Skynx's case? He called me mafia for voting on his own vote He called me mafia for switching for the same reason as him I absolutely rekt skynx. | ||
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On September 15 2016 03:52 Holyflare wrote: I think you'll find I voted first. and called damdred town first welcome to the holyflare rekt me club, you are one of several members that earns the privilege of shutting the fuck up while I continue to kill more mafia Skynx's whole reason to vote me nicely destroyed. The vote on me is also likely manipulated because it aids vivax's lynch. | ||
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No. It's manipulated. | ||
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So no fuba if I'm mafia and killed him why is he voting damdred in this situation? Either I've manipulated the votes to fuck me over for no reason for an illogical scott vote or mafia has to fuck me over. | ||
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On September 17 2016 05:22 Palmar wrote: although we kinda have to lynch hf now because we're not allowing him to win red-checked again. Ghosts don't get more than one check. There's no new cop check ghosts. There's no new medic saves. Vivax didn't die despite making a case on mafia and being town read and there being no medic saves and mafia having 2 powers to negate medic saves. Please you're not this shit at logic. | ||
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On September 17 2016 05:10 fuba wrote: I'm really tempted to switch to HF for no reason that I can accurately convey. Might be grack's undying love. If I understand the votes right, skynx+calix voted on damdred, scott voted HF. That's... hmmm... Skynx seemed positive of HF scum. Seems tampered with. Sorry can't read | ||
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If a person who has said nothing about shape suddenly votes shape and ignores a mechanic it's suspicious. Then you find out VIVAX TOWN READ SHAPELOG AND GOT HIS SCUM READ FUBA FROM SHAPELOG. And then to top it all off Shapelog randomly appears to be vivax's vote and he's voting it with a manipulated vote then it's scummy. It has nothing to do with Shapelog and everything to do with vivax. ALSO IT'S BS BECAUSE SKYNX HAD THE SAME REACTION AS ME SO IF A TOWNY THAT HAS FLIPPED HAS THAT REACTION WHY IS IT SCUMMY I HAD IT BEFORE HIM. it's hilariously 0% scummy. btw this is all just a rehash of vivax's case against me. Anyone saying this is a good post now is full of shit | ||
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On September 17 2016 05:41 Palmar wrote: Vivax is never mafia, his train is awful. HF might be, for his insistance that he is. But the 100% mafia is damdred. His train??? So why the fuck do i manipulate a vote on myself when I know half the thread wants to fucking lynch me? | ||
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On September 17 2016 05:44 Damdred wrote: I voted hf, somewhat try to save my own skin because I am not 100% of him being scum. I also hate that all three lunches are people who were on scum shape. Anyway I'm probably lynched here in any regard so this is what I think. Hf is possible scum here, he had a train ran against him d1, scum should,be more interested in lynching him in that situation instead of afking on tt. Vivax also puts up decent points. Super I'm more sure of. Doesn't care about game state, progression is weird on shape and how he reacts to each of the lunches. Including things I said earlier. Palmar and tw are the last two I'm a bit meh at. But I see more town in palmar than tw. It's a hard game and I've been busy so sorry about the effort this game. Holy fuck you ARE mafia | ||
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On September 15 2016 09:29 Holyflare wrote: Relevant quotes from same day. Miraculous read turnaround. Gets his strongest scum read from shape. Fuck shape is so mafia for these reasons that existed when i town read him. Screw my scum reads here's a random wagon. - vivax 'the mafia' nubbins | ||
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On September 17 2016 05:50 Vivax wrote: Nope I suspected fuba before, but when I dived Shape's latest page, I noticed that he raised good points on fuba, I looked at fuba's post in question and pointed out everything that made him suspicious to me. I'm sure fuba remembers so he can confirm. Which by now isn't really relevant cause as you see Shape tried to paint him scum (mehish argument, scum can always bus), and more importantly, I have reason to assume fuba is town cause I'm sure you and fuba are the mafia. And your next misrep attempt goes into the trash. Nice slip fuba vivax scum team | ||
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Vivax needed assistance lynching me, in 0 scenarios does scott go from trusting me to voting me. Resd my case on him because it's amazing his sjape vote appears from nowhere. Shape was his tkwn read. Lynch fuba? Because he thinks mafias end game is to lynch him but votes me the person who has been defending him kber vivax who has scum read him non stop and then ditched it today to lynch me. | ||
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Also I've read all the QTs now. Calix you played very well, probably got a bit too taken up with arguing with your town reads that were critical of you but I can't blame you because I do the exact same thing. NU you played well, were a good voice of reason at most times but probably need to cut back on the scum slips and wifom. Uh other people you need to stop signing up to games if you're willing to put 0 effort in. There was no real analysis of any post after day 2 save from me??? You all afkd and came back to do random shit tone reads and afk again. If you're not willing to commit to a full game then join obs qt because you sure did play like one. But despite crappy afk you somehow managed to look towny day 1 to 2 so not too bad after all. | ||
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Also, yeh, I probably shouldn't play because while I do spam a lot of reads they've all just been surface thoughts and no real effort into reading people's filters like I used to. Work life really makes me bad, hence the bad past few games (even if we did win 2/3) I've not been as consistent as I used to be. But the worst part is putting in effort with no time to play and nobody reciprocating or even talking to me about it. Shame. Shammeeeee. | ||
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16:51:28] Calix: also is HF always like this? [16:51:30] Calix: just wondering [16:55:38] live:deniztur214_1: i've played with him just once before, read few other games. [16:55:53] live:deniztur214_1: first game i read he ragequitted and voted himself as mafia d1 [16:56:36] live:deniztur214_1: second he fakeclaimed rec copcheck on a townie then they both got lynched [16:57:38] live:deniztur214_1: You know what its not much of an alignment tell but he said before joining game on few other places he's caught in work and unable to play mafia from there anymore [16:57:46] live:deniztur214_1: but he's got a 23 page filter [16:57:54] live:deniztur214_1: i think thats more town than scum This makes me sad to not be remembered as the best player ever Probably the worst games I've played ever! Read some of my profile, post count especially doesn't count. :D | ||
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I even pointed out it was wrong and I had the thoughts first and you still scum read me. Like you, I also weigh mind meld quite highly and that just didn't quite add up enough for me. No hard feelings though, I got the revenge for the vig shot in the palmar game, I hold no grudges Nice save too ^^ | ||
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On September 21 2016 10:47 NeverUnlucky wrote: I felt like I played fine Day 1. Oh well. Day 1 was your best day, you established being town and were logical and had a solid approach. It was good. | ||
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Everyone does scummy things but lynch the people that do the most scummy things! I think a good way to play is by finding people you think are towny first and foremost and then that narrows down your scum pool quite easily (make sure your town reads aren't shit). Reading filters after having read the whole game is imo the best way to play. Reading filters on their own can make people look bad without context. If someone looks bad in context then filter dive and have a look at their overview of the game, if it's bad and no contributions and just popping up to say nothing then they are likely mafia. Gotta put yourself in the mindset of a person trying to survive amd mislynch people/look good and the circumstances of the game. Vivax is a good example, his Shapelog read doesn't really fit with what he should be thinking, he got his top scum read reading Shapelog filter but somehow his town read dropped and became a scum read whem nobody was talking about shape and vivax didn't even particularly push it. Also there's nk wifom which is very likely wifom but also not :D | ||
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On September 21 2016 22:26 Half the Sky wrote: This is what I hate most about the current meta personally, 47h of work for those that did the work down the drain, and >90% of the time town get it wrong, you guys honestly got very lucky there as Shape wasn't able to defend himself (regardless of alignment), he's had issues where he's forced to disappear as both alignments. Holyflare lynch IMO was beyond awful. But the spirits/ghosts (unlike last game) saved it. Personally I only support shenanigans if you think the person being lynched is towny and you want a switch, such as on damdred. There is no alternative to a "47 hour talked about case", people quite often spew town at deadline for some reason and if you don't do it then you're lynching town which is more dumb than switching to a higer chance than 0% potential mafia person. If it hits mafia, loads of info too. If it hits town then also info! | ||
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