[M][T] Haunted Mansion 3

On September 09 2016 06:50 Vivax wrote:


Is this some shitty attempt at getting easy townreads by replicating trfels opener from last game?

On September 09 2016 10:09 Tictock wrote:
Ending pg7.

The Setup stuff kinda bores me, but I should prob read through it eventually kus it sparked a bit of discussion. Kinda getting town feels from both of NU and Calix atm though.

My thoughts on Setup, the dead should make their own calls on how to use their powers and Last Wills are not that important since the dead can be just as wrong as anyone about stuff.

Basically the only setup thing that's important to living players imo is being able to see who the dead are voting for as that gives us insight into their thoughts. In general though it is best to approach this game as a straight all vanilla game with some potential information coming from dead players.

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Seems we've got a fairly active game started up here. I'm gunna have to catchup more after dinner.

On September 09 2016 12:03 fuba wrote:
I can't point at anything explicitly wrong with your case, aside from the fact that the weakest reasons (at least in my eyes) could apply to me as well. The rest is enough to make it easily best case so far.

*sheeps*

On September 09 2016 12:17 Holyflare wrote:
Anyway people that are scummy:

Ticktock
New guy
Grackaroni

People that aren't:

Person whose posts i haven't read but is from uk
Fuba for now
Plammer

Night

On September 09 2016 17:00 Grackaroni wrote:

That's pretty much my goal every game. I'm done crafting long posts at the start of games.

I'm at the same place as you on Holyflare though. His case (removing the "I like this post" part) essentially states:

*Ticktock made a wifomy entrance post.
*Ticktock stated he dislikes talking about setups and then talked about the setup, which is a contradiction, but he'll have to sell me on why it's a scummy one. Would the post be scummy if he made his post without stating that setup discussion is boring?

Also, to end up here after reading the posts seems like he's going way overboard.

about my vote

On September 09 2016 21:29 Holyflare wrote:
As an addendum new guy is only mafia for ignoring me and voting on uk person.

Bad.

On September 09 2016 21:25 Holyflare wrote:


This is a terrible post.

Not only does he hard defend ticktock for absolutely no reason whatsoever but somehow he doesn't see how someone complaining that setup is useless and boring but then talking about setup is scummy.

Ticktock literally has 0 content in his filter in comparison to actual insights in his last game.

Ticktock's only content is game mechanics which he complained about doing IN THE SAME POST.

No content, all fluff, didn't return from dinner.

Mafia.

If he's not mafia then grack and new guy certainly are.

On September 09 2016 22:47 Vivax wrote:
What's up with superbia? A dozen one liners in a row, his plan is to get lynched, some of his speculation seemed misinformed. It's like he didn't sleep for 24 hours, drank a litre of coffee then started playing mafia. At least it looks like he's motivated to post.

On September 10 2016 00:45 Skynx wrote:
HF is town for tunnel on TT easiest read so far.

On September 10 2016 01:02 Calix wrote:
Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?

And why? (for the scum-reads at least)

On September 10 2016 01:06 Holyflare wrote:


I feel like calling you an incredibly massive hypocrite and in fact I am.

But you're from the UK so I'll let it slide.

On September 10 2016 04:22 Skynx wrote:

What do you mean? His entire filter has like no content at all he has been around, had time to react on stuff.

You saying we should just ignore all that and tr him cuz it fits his meta?

On September 10 2016 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
yes just like a town palmar is possible of doing

There is this post where he sets himself up for making crappy posts for...most of the game.

On September 10 2016 01:21 Holyflare wrote:
Fuba is too self aware at being crappy for me to call him mafia.

On September 10 2016 07:09 Damdred wrote:
Sweeping is a skill that many people do not, nor want to, have. Its important to realize that sometimes someone is passionate about a lynch and they believe it so much and you should give it to them. (If you think they are town).

So yes if I think hf is town I will give him his preferred lynch and I suspect he would do the same to me.

On September 10 2016 06:21 Rels wrote:
Day 1 Votecount

Tictock (2): Holyflare, fuba, Calix
fuba (2): NeverUnlucky, Calix
Tumblewood (1): Superbia, Superbia
Calix (0): NeverUnlucky
Superbia (0): Superbia
Skynx (0): NeverUnlucky

Not Voting (8): Skynx, Damdred, Palmar, Grackaroni, Vivax, Tumblewood, Shapelog, Tictock

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Day 1 ends Saturday, Sep 10 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .
TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate.

On September 10 2016 06:09 Vivax wrote:
For HF:

- One point that isn't as important to me, but still relevant: The fact he had the same early scumreads as HF but somehow didn't relate to what HF wrote about them, or talked about HFs posts on them. This usually wouldn't be a problem if superbia actually brought up points of his own that seemed better to him than HFs points, but since I don't really see anything explaining why TT is mafia, this isn't the case.

For point #2: I think he is focusing on a contradiction that he can portray as scummy when I think he should be good enough to realize that it isn't very alignment indicative. TT said he didn't like talking about the setup and then said something about the setup. So what?

On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?

he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:

a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset

b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.

SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.

Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.


Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.

The third thing was just the sheer certainty from Holyflare:

On August 09 2016 00:05 Holyflare wrote:
yeh I could 100% lynch mderg

On August 09 2016 02:44 Holyflare wrote:
I have a pretty big hunch that SL is 100% mafia so it's not really a hunch but facts



I definitely targeted a weaker person in this game and he hasn't said shit about it and super dodged everything about me later

On August 08 2016 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
Wow Tumblewood with the hard defending.

I said I didn't like his posts because they were stiff and ALSO that I looked at his other game where he was town and it was different completely, so two factors that lead up to him being scummy. Not to mention he hasn't posted since either.

Why have you completely bypassed the argument that I made and then made a new argument to defend him?

Also, SL comes in the thread and doesn't say anything about lynching me, definitely probably mafia.

On August 10 2016 16:17 Holyflare wrote:
Hahahaha sicklucker you're 1000% mafia.

On August 10 2016 22:37 Holyflare wrote:
More than what.....?

The only real moves I've done this game are started a wagon on probable mafia and cop checked to confirm. I'd say I've been 100% right so far.

On August 10 2016 23:00 Holyflare wrote:
So like i said before, 100% right.

On August 08 2016 05:49 Grackaroni wrote:

If HF sees something on a mental checklist of things scum do then of course he should push it. Why do you think he shouldn't? There's nothing redeeming in Lunatic's filter yet.

On September 10 2016 09:44 NeverUnlucky wrote:


All of these points apply to TW. Why is TT a scum-read when TW is not?

Worth noting that Shapelog has gone MIA.

On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts are:

TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing

But... he's not mafia?

On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?

he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:

a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset

b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.

SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.

Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.


Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.

On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:

"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."

or

"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>"

On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it.

If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time.

If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either.

On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:

"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."

or

"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>"

On September 11 2016 00:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Just to be clear, HF:

Am I the lynch plan tomorrow if TT flips town, mafia, or both?

On September 11 2016 00:14 Damdred wrote:
I've also explained why lurking is a scum trait of tt. You get info from all flips though this myth about info vs no information is silly.

We have almost 40 pages of information with a push on tt you get info from and what people are pushing for.

Besides that dead scum>alive scum

On September 11 2016 01:16 Tumblewood wrote:
I encourage everyone to look past Hf's "infallible logic" and see that he is saying that a player with no more than 5 posts is guaranteed mafia. Hf is not a stupid person, but saying it with such fiery conviction is stupid. I guess you could call that a contradiction, but more importantly this has "pushing a mislynch" written all over it.
my guess at a scumteam so far is hf/palmar/??? (possibly skynx for the dropoff, or Damdred for supporting Hf, or tt if you want to get tinfoily). I like grack's point on Palmar. honestly guys just listen to grack because he is far and away the smartest player this game.

On September 11 2016 01:35 Calix wrote:


Uh, you DID say that. You just phrased it as a question which implies that fuba makes that kind of comment every game and never said otherwise until now.

How is it a reaction test? The answer is obvious because a behaviour repeated by a player every game means that they do the behaviour regardless of alignment, thus said behaviour is NAI for them. With this in mind, what were you hoping to get out of that?

On September 11 2016 01:36 Skynx wrote:
Sup mofos, I'll cook eat then sit here for rest of the night.

On September 11 2016 01:43 Calix wrote:


I fail to see how it's a shit case, especially to you, when you made similar points against TT and Grack.

I didn't say "fuba is mafia because he made X comment" - that is only a PART of my case against him. Even if he hadn't made that comment, the rest of my points stand strong.

You didn't ask about wherever it becomes null. (you said 'not scummy' which is not the same thing as 'null')

You haven't said what you were hoping or expecting to get from my reaction.

On September 11 2016 02:39 Calix wrote:


Ew no wtf.

I've already explained that bussing is a horrible fucking strategy for Day 1. Town cred is overrated - nobody gives a shit about who voted for who on Day 1 when it comes to a LYLO situation. I've literally never seen anyone be saved from a lynch because "lol they voted for scum on D1"

Well I am town and I'm defending TT with logical reasoning because scum have no incentive to stick their neck out for a lurker mislynch, so get the fuck off with that 'logic'.

Your last sentence just serves to undermine everything you just said.

0/10, did not like this post whatsoever.

On September 11 2016 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Man p34 is way too long but I'm kinda liking Gracks defence.

HF you seem to be pretty convinced both Grack n TT are mafia which one are we lynching today? And what about the other one if todays lynch flips town?

On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:


I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"?

No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM?

No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'.

On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:


Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said "oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense.

On September 11 2016 03:33 Skynx wrote:
So TT is afk.
HF sr's TT cuz according to meta TT should defend when pressured.
Grack defends TT cuz HF's points is weak.
HF sr's Grack cuz of defending an afk.
Tumble sr's HF cuz his points are invalid.
HF asks everyone to follow him cuz his reads are flawless.

While Shapelog, Super, Palmar are all MIA and posted no content.
fuba, calix and NU are fighting eachother for no reason.
Damdred and Vivax are kinda in and out.

game is hard.

On September 11 2016 03:45 Holyflare wrote:


How do you know those people aren't mafia????

On September 11 2016 03:50 Skynx wrote:

You didn't like his wifom entry. You pressured him and he didn't defend. Those are your arguments around 35-40 am i not right? If not please tell cuz I'm not happy with TT lynch.

On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote:
No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it.

It's a very strong opening.

But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because:

On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:

"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."

or

"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>"

On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it.

If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time.

If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either.

On September 10 2016 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
My assumption, and it's a very logical assumption to make, is that he actually read/skimmed the entire thread and saw nobody made this point yet and as mafia found a way to look like he was contributing by posting "new information" since mafia love to blend and talk about mechanics.

Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too.

On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?

he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:

a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset

b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.

SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.

Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.


Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.

On September 11 2016 03:55 Calix wrote:
I like how HF says that me saying "the scum are allowing a townie to die" is "jumping to a conclusion"

It's a very simple argument to make about the stale TT wagon and lack of resistance.

On September 11 2016 03:58 Holyflare wrote:


It's a shit argument.

Gracj pushes off tt
Nu wants damdred
You use useless wifom shit
There's onky 3 ppl on tt
5 people afk
Tunble wants me

Why is your argument the most simple one? It's nit because it's bull shit to fit your wifom agenda of not voting tt.


Read my quotes EVERYONE IN THIS GAME.

PROVE MY LOGIC IS WRONG OR VOTE TT.

I'm actually sick of everyone dodging.

On September 11 2016 04:09 Skynx wrote:


So 1 meta, 1 shitposting, another meta, what u mean in 4th one i have no idea and one plynch argument.


So you are referring to him calling the setup boring but he should read it boils down to being illogical therefore he must be scum. You say you are assuming here, a very logical assumption.

How logical it is to assume this whole thing is very weak?
Your case is based on meta, shitposting, assumption and policy.
2 of those above can be applied to 4 I've mentioned earlier, they are essentially same with ticktock with exception that they actually posted stuff.
Therefore your strongest argument is the 'logical assumption' you made earlier which is debatable at best.

On September 11 2016 04:21 Skynx wrote:

I mostly agree. TT, Shape, Super and Palmar are all plynches.

Whats bothering me and what I've been trying to say over last few pages is TT is not as good of a lynch as other 3 because he is TOTALLY afk. Rest have been posting with no content whatsoever.
Super just trolled and commented on setup for 3 entire pages of filter.
Palmar said he will just not read or post.
Shape posted walls of text that says nothing at all.

But we are tunnelling on 1 guy that is actually away while 3 people we have more data that reliably suggests that they did jack shit all game but no one even considers them.

On September 11 2016 04:32 Calix wrote:
Being self-aware about your egotistical nature invalidates the point you were trying to make.

On September 11 2016 04:34 Grackaroni wrote:

It seems more like he's trying to paint TT scum than analyzing the game.

I think that's especially evident in the long convoluted reasoning that is coming out of some minor inconsistency.

On September 11 2016 04:37 Palmar wrote:
actually HF, give me the bitesize version:

why is TT scum? (you can link to a post or just answer, but short pls cause attention span low, I am killing aliens in a boardgame too).

On September 11 2016 04:40 Superbia wrote:


Reasons

On September 11 2016 04:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Lynching mafia HF is my dream Palmar. Surely you can understand.

On September 11 2016 04:46 Tumblewood wrote:

do you realize that all of these things either you couldn't know are true or are not alignment indicative?

On September 11 2016 04:49 Tumblewood wrote:

u literally fakeclaimed cop to get a lynch through and after the flip claimed that was a lie

lynch pool
hf
tt

On September 05 2016 16:37 Tictock wrote:
Someone remind me to properly respond to Trfel's posts #1612 and 1613 later on, I'm getting called away and only skimmed them.

This part jumped out at me though:


I'm not a fan of the bolded statement here, I think it's more mafia sided thinking than town. Trfel is referring to his opening post here:


Now town really will only start that game with a post like this to get reactions from people, and that is how I've been interpreting that post and is part of why I've been townreading Trfel most of the game. Starting the game off by trying to get reactions and push for info is a very towny thing to do, and that is what I thought Trfel was doing.

However claiming that this open was to "not play under the radar" as Trfel is now saying, is much more mafia indicative. Mafia are usually very aware (maybe even nervous) about their opening and try to open in ways that either make them look town or don't draw much attention to themselves. Saying that he claimed scum to stand out then means that he was worried about how he looked at the start of the game.

On September 11 2016 05:21 Holyflare wrote:


Ticktock post from last game. Any of that here?

On September 11 2016 05:26 Shapelog wrote:
I here. I been sick last night and today with a 101.9 fever.

Going try to catch as much as I can.

On September 11 2016 05:28 Superbia wrote:
Can we all agree with me that we should lynch Calix if TT flips town even though I'm giving absolutely no reasons?

On September 11 2016 05:31 Tumblewood wrote:
oh yeah I'm stupid if Hf gets lynched he's shooting tt
actually that sounds like a win-win

On September 11 2016 05:33 Grackaroni wrote:

The Calix read was based entirely off the TT read wasn't it?

On September 11 2016 05:39 Superbia wrote:


He's saying you will shoot TT if you die. You can only shoot someone when you die if you're town.

On September 11 2016 05:48 Calix wrote:


I already said that it looks like you're lining up lynches because it reads like you know what he will flip. Why else would you keep saying "if this happens, do X"?

HF is also saying the same thing. "If TT is town, lynch Calix"

When he was saying that I was scum with TT earlier.

So no matter what, I am scum to HF.

Heads he wins. Tails I lose.

On September 11 2016 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
But you think I'm mafia

On September 11 2016 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
We explained why your reasons for thinking tt are town are literally the shittest in the game. You still push the rhetoric that yoir wifom is the correct logic though despite 5 people telling you otherwise.

If tt is town that is why you are mafia because you got shown 5000 other wifom situations that make sense and you picked the right one.

On September 11 2016 06:11 Skynx wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/238343-player-replacement?page=16#302

We are all blind

On September 11 2016 06:12 Calix wrote:


No they aren't. Thinking that a bad wagon is a town wagon because of a lack of resistance + scummy voters is using the thread to draw a conclusion. That's not a WIFOM situation.

On September 11 2016 06:23 Tumblewood wrote:

the last will stuff falls into sketchy rules area that may or may not result in mid action. I'd be careful and check with a host first.
and Scott should shoot Hf. something something "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take" plus it means Hf won't get a chance to shoot calix

On September 11 2016 06:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:


If a train is utter shit, the trained player is in most cases TOWN. Calix and I have explained many times how the train was shit and that TT was most likely town given this. Do you not do VCA in TL?

Also, we were pushing for Damdred, but it did not get attention because the scum were most likely drawing everyone's attention to TT, leaving our case in the shadows.

On September 11 2016 07:02 Calix wrote:


Showing that the scum-read on me for defending TT is shitty, duh.

I'm asking for what intent I would have, as scum, to defend TT.

Also if it wasn't obvious, I hate 'WIFOM' as a response. That's almost-always been a cop-out way of saying "I have no retort but I won't say as much" like seriously.

On September 11 2016 07:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I've reviewed Skynx's EoD filter, and I am mixed.

For one, I can see his train of though evolving through his posts, and so his vote didn't feel forced.

For two, and this point is sort of a contradiction to point one, he said that he was going to vote for

He then started to argue with HF saying that his reasoning was bad and that he should feel bad.
After, he says this



Somehow TT sneaked into his lynch pool without previous notice. It's a big contradiction considering he disagreed with HF.

For three, he says this


He says that HF is painting TT as scum, but then votes him and says that it's a PL? I understand that he didn't have a strong scum-read, but voting someone who he acknowledges has aa shitty train on him is brutally bad when there were other possible PLs he himself proposed.

The rest of his posts felt town, nothing to report. Conclusion: Despite his actions not matching his words and acting shady, I still think that Skynx is town because of his tone, his attempts to town-hunt (and thus scum-hunting by poe), his uncertainty, and his reasoning.

Thoughts?

On September 11 2016 11:03 Tumblewood wrote:
this whole game is divided in half
me, grack, fuba, calix, NU, skynx
vs
shape, Hf, super, palmar
with Damdred and vivax chilling on the side
this is not healthy for town. I think the piece we're missing is convincing everyone who was on tictock that calix isn't mafia for being off him. I should do that sometime

On September 11 2016 06:15 Tumblewood wrote:
or did TMI get changed to Takes Minimal Intelligence and no one told me?
ok I'm done being snarky for now. just know that Hf and two people between super/damdred/palmar/shape are the scum team, and grack is #1 best townie in the game.

He basically shut down my posts by saying "no that's not what he's thinking" DESPITE tt actually saying that is what he was thinking meaning tw was defending tt WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT HE SAID THIS GAME

On September 11 2016 21:19 Calix wrote:
It always makes me laugh when people say "I don't care" because if you didn't, you wouldn't feel the need to tell me that you cared.

On September 11 2016 21:06 Holyflare wrote:


Best post in the game imo will quote later.

On September 11 2016 22:27 Damdred wrote:
Nothing that's posted makes me scum and honestly calix is creating a narrative that just fits what they want to see.

Sk might be scum I'm not sure the inconsitincies are more scum leaning but not,sure.

Anyway I'll probably be around some,then be here later on Monday.

Also I expected more from you hf.

On September 11 2016 21:04 Holyflare wrote:
Because you're scummy to me and I'm a great player and you do look like you pick the correct wifom every time despite everything we say and lots of good players agree and i don't rate tw as an amazing top tier player yet he made an entire weak case on you being town and keeps yelling about it and it's pretty much the only substantial thing that he's done other than arguing how tt wasn't mafia (again tmi) despite tt doing mafia looking things and afking. He basically shut down my posts by saying "no that's not what he's thinking" DESPITE tt actually saying that is what he was thinking meaning tw was defending tt WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT HE SAID THIS GAME.

Tw's plan this game is defend people that don't need defending for no reason and push me.

Abd he's fucked up calling me town and he called tt town in a slip too although slips basically mean nothing but they're there.

Basically i lynch people that make cases that can't possibly be made with the information normal people have.

On September 12 2016 01:19 Vivax wrote:
Need to pack stuff and travel for a bit will pop in later.

Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town?

On September 12 2016 05:38 Grackaroni wrote:

What I love most about this theory is the part where we go:
"Let's double team HF and then turn on each other once he's looking lynchable!"

On September 12 2016 05:38 Grackaroni wrote:

What I love most about this theory is the part where we go:
"Let's double team HF and then turn on each other once he's looking lynchable!"