On September 09 2016 22:19 Calix wrote:Skynx COULD be mafia, sure, but I think my current scum team theory holds more weight. Granted, this will almost-always be the case because Skynx has not interacted with anyone so we'll see how he changes things if at all.
I think this post relating to Grack/ TW/ TT are telling though. This was kind of what pinged me when I was catching up earlier. It felt like Grack/ TW were ganging up on HF with shoddy reasoning once TT was under fire.
TW's 'paranoia' seems so damned convenient because it reads like he's wielding it to push back against HF.
Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 17:00 Grackaroni wrote:On September 09 2016 14:11 Tumblewood wrote:On September 09 2016 12:40 Grackaroni wrote:
No but seriously. Since when is saying "I like this post" forced. What are you smoking HF?
thank you for calling hf out. this is part of the reason I am paranoid. his claims come off as kinda skewed to fit his conclusion. not enough to pin him down as mafia though. grack, you can be town for now because
you also had one post that made me laugh earlier That's pretty much my goal every game. I'm done crafting long posts at the start of games.
I'm at the same place as you on Holyflare though. His case (removing the "I like this post" part) essentially states:
*Ticktock made a wifomy entrance post.
*Ticktock stated he dislikes talking about setups and then talked about the setup, which is a contradiction, but he'll have to sell me on why it's a scummy one. Would the post be scummy if he made his post without stating that setup discussion is boring?
Also, to end up here after reading the posts seems like he's going way overboard.
On September 09 2016 10:48 Holyflare wrote:
I will never in 1000 fiery years vote anyone other than ticktock today.
And here I thought you hated pre-flip association.
On September 09 2016 22:41 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 22:37 Holyflare wrote:
Like people picking up on the semantics of the wording are bad and should feel bad. Sure he didn't say that mechanics are useless but his mindset is off from what he's actually posting and it looks solely like he's trying to skate by with low content posts.
But which is it?! Is he trying to skate by with low content posts or is he not coming back from dinner?
He did have a better start in that last game. If he's actually just bad at playing as mafia I'll vote him. Also I did not hard defend him. What I did is what we call in the business a "chain saw defense." The idea is to hit the accuser with the chain saw while the other scummer has him distracted.
Noting to see how this progressed.
On September 09 2016 22:47 Vivax wrote:
What's up with superbia? A dozen one liners in a row, his plan is to get lynched, some of his speculation seemed misinformed. It's like he didn't sleep for 24 hours, drank a litre of coffee then started playing mafia. At least it looks like he's motivated to post.
I am not too crazy about this post.
Out of place comment on Superbia. Thread is talking about Skynx/Grack/TT/TW and Vivax randomly brings up Superbia out of no where. Nor contributes to the discussion about it.
A bit of redemption for the bold. Still a iffy post for me.
On September 10 2016 00:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 23:58 Skynx wrote:On September 09 2016 07:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 06:51 Skynx wrote:
New players: "Hmm I'm nervous about my entry post so lemme post some comments on game mechanics to be safe"
Where are you going with this? Do you scum-read us both? Posts without conclusions like this one aren't worth much.
On September 09 2016 06:46 Tictock wrote:
Aw shucks, my streak of rolling town has come to an end.
Guess I wont be posting much so I don't accidentally give you guys info.
Lel.
Oh man okay excuse my ignorance why didn't you tell you are a tryhard from the start so I could ignore you anyway.
So see the problem here. I pointed out the problem with your opener. You say if I don't scum read you based on it my post is worthless.
In meantime Vivax posted the same shit just writing a bit more stuff then you guys argued three pages over use of pronouns and shit.
Ignoring players who scum-read you -- deflection/apathy.
You still don't answer the question.
Deflection.
SKYNX NEEDS MORE VOTES.
NU. Let me teach you a lesson.
Some people....You know....
Just don't care about being Scum readed. Especially early on, when they should be focusing on making content.
On September 10 2016 00:03 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 23:54 Skynx wrote:On September 09 2016 23:51 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 23:47 Skynx wrote:
Anyway I'll just comment on stuff as I go along the game, will answer stuff here aswell if u like.
Again, another scumtell (which I've explained in an answer to Grock's post).
Okay I will ignore your posts here until I catchup if you wish so. Your push has no logical credit to it anyway.
Nice attempt to discredit me while refuting none of my points.
I am kinda meh about NU's stance here. Kinda feels like scum trying to discredit based off the tone of this one and the last post quoted.
I am trying to figure out better on how to explain it. I think the best way to say it, is that NU's tone here feels like he is trying to overstate how creditable his position is in the thread. And is trying to sound like the better man, then trying to scum hunt. So that others join the read on Skynx.
On September 10 2016 00:08 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:08 Superbia wrote:
My solution is usually to read the thread but not the content of posts. Especially long posts. People have boring opinions that are usually wrong and always inferior to my own.
I usually read entire posts of Race, is something wrong with me?
You might need to go get tested for HIV, and every other sexually transmitted disease.
On September 10 2016 00:13 Vivax wrote:A simple summary/caselet of scummy shit superbia did:
- Spammed the early game up with the stream thingy cause it tends to get people townread, got sloppy about it for the sake of spamming and made the mistake about the roles.
- While having a circle of suspects of TW/TT/Grack, the best question that comes to his mind for Calix is about NeverU, literally the guy calix talked about the most so far. Any other question could have been more productive. Calix opinion on NeverU was already fairly obvious from earlier convos.
- That question wasn't related to superbias current circle of suspects -> ergo it was just a question to appear active, get people to talk about what they want to talk. And on top of it, it was a question easy for Calix to answer given that her opinion on NU is probably the most fleshed out in the game.
- One point that isn't as important to me, but still relevant: The fact he had the same early scumreads as HF but somehow didn't relate to what HF wrote about them, or talked about HFs posts on them. This usually wouldn't be a problem if superbia actually brought up points of his own that seemed better to him than HFs points, but since I don't really see anything explaining why TT is mafia, this isn't the case.
Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 22:03 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
How are both those people related?
(shit did someone say something earlier and now my thread reading is a lie?)
They're both in this game. I have been inclined to group them together though I believe this has been covered by Calix before. TW's read on TT seemed non-existent and kind of forced. Plus he was willing to ignore your push on him because of 'paranoia'. Felt awkward. Like "look at how townie-paranoid I am" while not committing to anything.
This is the reason superbia believes them to be suspect. It looks entirely based on TWs read on TT. You tell me if that's a good reason.
Follow up from Vivax about Superbia was meh. Point 1 I don't love. 2 is a ok point to make. 3, too early in the game to state this IMO. You should sus. everyone (or talk to everyone) till halfway through Day 1. 4 is WIFOM reasoning.
Doesn't make me feel any better about it.
On September 10 2016 00:49 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:03 Calix wrote:
NU vs Skynx is getting dumb. All I'm seeing is NU conflating contribution with alignment and Skynx getting annoyed.
NU, maybe back off and see what Skynx does when they finish catching up/ are not playing Overwatch or what the fuck ever and then resume this.
truth
nu vs. skynx is TvT. as long as skynx isn't voting me I will sheep him because I am 90ish percent sure he's town and his voting record is about twice as good as mine. this subject to change if/when I lose confidence in that read or get pissed at someone
This is really fucking strange from Tumble.
I have never seen Tumble act like this besides the last game he played in. He was town that game, but....
Just it doesn't feel like at all how tumble plays. Tumble as town is pretty good, and for him to vote with Skynx based off of Previous game vote records......
I don't even know what to make of it. It just like Tumble flipped the Good Town play-style switch off.
NU voices what I would say (minus meta.)
+ Show Spoiler +On September 10 2016 00:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
actually I am too waffly on NU to call him fully town just yet. he is too experienced and too wtf for me to make a newbie call. but I think he is town, even though he does stupid shit like have 5 scumreads or argue about how I need to explain everything
This is my 7th FM game. I'm not too experienced for anyone to read.
How the fuck do you call me too experienced and newbie in the same sentence?There are two methods to find the scum:
1. Go for town-reads and find scum by PoE.
2. Find the scumminess in players' posts.
We all use both manners, but we tend to favor one over the other. For instance, Damdred only has town-reads so far, so he has a preference for 1., while I have 5 scum-reads, so I like 2. better. Having 5 scum-reads is neither stupid nor AI.
How about...
... you actually explain 'everything'? I won't ask you to explain anything if you do explain them, zzz.
Did either misread or misrep. Tumble though. Never stated he was both newbie and expereinced.
Maybe I need to reconsider my earlier point about the tone of NU. It still bothers me, but it just could be how he plays. Will filter and see afterwards.
On September 10 2016 04:20 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:58 Superbia wrote:On September 10 2016 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
actually I am too waffly on NU to call him fully town just yet. he is too experienced and too wtf for me to make a newbie call. but I think he is town, even though he does stupid shit like have 5 scumreads or argue about how I need to explain everything
Cool talk about mafia pls.
idk who that is. I think hf's points on tt are mostly blown out of proportion if that's what you mean. posts are created faster than I can read and post about them all so until 2:15ish (pst) I can't really do that
Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 10 2016 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
actually I am too waffly on NU to call him fully town just yet. he is too experienced and too wtf for me to make a newbie call. but I think he is town, even though he does stupid shit like have 5 scumreads or argue about how I need to explain everything
This is my 7th FM game. I'm not too experienced for anyone to read.
How the fuck do you call me too experienced and newbie in the same sentence?
There are two methods to find the scum:
1. Go for town-reads and find scum by PoE.
2. Find the scumminess in players' posts.
We all use both manners, but we tend to favor one over the other. For instance, Damdred only has town-reads so far, so he has a preference for 1., while I have 5 scum-reads, so I like 2. better. Having 5 scum-reads is neither stupid nor AI.
How about...
... you actually explain 'everything'? I won't ask you to explain anything if you do explain them, zzz.
ok only seven games means you can probably be read by the tells I use for newbies, which leads me to call you town
will be back soon (TM)
At this point, your crappyness must mean your scum.
Just, Your posts make me cringe. Their that bad.
From now on, I am going to say this,
Make Tumblewood Great again. One Lost scum game a Time.Whenever I need to comment on your posts.
On September 10 2016 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
all of your posts come off like you have a massive stick rammed so far up your arse that you're poking people in the eyes with it by speaking
HF SEES IT TOO!
So I am not alone with the fact NU Tone seems like a Mafioso.
On September 10 2016 02:32 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 01:38 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 10 2016 01:34 Calix wrote:
Uh yes? People generally have opinions on popular topics of discussion, especially when suspects are being discussed. Why would you not want to give yours? Even if you don't think you have anything new to add, saying something like "I agree with X" is still better than nothing.
What is your take on the Vivax - Superbia showdown hen?
What game are you referring to, Hype Mafia?
Please tell me you aren't going to go read other games to
meta-read someone/understand someone's behavior...
So associations/ narratives?
duh
I prefer to have the person I'm talking to answer my posts, not a spokesperson.
I don't consider it a 'showdown' actually, just two people being jumpy around each other. Vivax analysed some of Superbia's posts, Superbia responded and Vivax repeated the points when stating his scum-read on Superbia. Also Superbia accused Vivax of OMGUS which seemed out of nowhere, but I don't remember Superbia's previous scum-read on Vivax. Granted, I only skim-read it so this opinion is shit, but nothing Vivax pointed out is that scummy (seemed more theoretical, like when he was saying "Superbia could be trying to make Calix scum-read NU", so stuff like that is too...abstract (for lack of a better word) to appeal to me)
I didn't see anything that only scum would do from either of them. I might reread that later and revise my 'thoughts' but don't hold your breath.
lmao. This game is active/ spammy enough for me. Hell no am I going to look at this thread and decide "ah yes I shall spend time reading another game". I haven't properly looked through any 'filters' yet if I am honest.
I'd rather try and motivate myself to do that before EOD and see if I can find something. That whole 'finding shit that only scum would say' is why I'm not full-on scum-reading Vivax, by the way, because while scum COULD play like him, I don't recall him doing anything that only scum would do. Don't know if that makes much sense but that's where my thoughts are atm with him.
I really like this post! Townie tone, Townie mindset, it really is just a very obv. townie post.
I mean, I had the tinfoil that Cal was Nerco, but I cannot prove it. Plus the way she distalked the LW thinking about it now, makes me think that it wasn't a plan move for LW control.
Town.
On September 10 2016 02:53 fuba wrote:
I'd thought that "lynchbait" is when a player is prone to attracting votes as town, which would indicate a TW town read from NU, given that he doesn't have any knowledge of TW's meta. And I was well aware that this is contrary to his general thoughts on TW at that point in the game. That's why I wouldn't really revisit it unless TW flips town (if/when that happens). I.E. if TW flips town, this could have been a slip.
Actually, mentioning that he's lynchbait is counterproductive to getting TW lynched, so why even mention it? Gonna need to think about this more after work - need my computer in front of me XD
What?
I...I mean...Um...Nice tinfoil?
Let's make Tumblewood Great again! One scum game lost a time!But really, It isn't worth bothering with slips from a personal view point. Easy for scum to screw you over with.
On September 10 2016 04:06 Skynx wrote:
Shape is being shape and posting walls of comments on stuff. You have any reads bro, particularly on fuba and hf? Bonus points for relating gif.
Ouch.
From here, I stopped commenting on things to get caught up.
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