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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 21:36 GMT
#1318
Only NK townies Shoot/Check....Aka Ven.

Scott can heal and that is it, since he is Benv,

On September 11 2016 06:19 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:18 Superbia wrote:
Also I do care about you shapelog, take it easy man.


#pocketed

Good,

Now push my mafia agenda for me.
On September 11 2016 06:20 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On September 11 2016 06:08 Damdred wrote:
Can we not blame anyone, it was a push and a lynch. Tjats how the game goes tbh and being condescending towards hf will only cause a nuclear war.

But grac defending but not defending and calix chainsaw wifom defense is strange on retrospect


"LET'S NOT BLAME THE ONES ON THE ML TRAIN, LET'S INSTEAD BLAME THE ONES WHO DIDN'T AGREE TO ML TT"

SCUMMY AF. DAMDRED NEEDS TO GO. 100%.

FFS stop Cap locking.

Also stop saying what I said.

Plus, HF driving a ML doesn't make him scum. He had (bad) reasons to vote him, but he had reasons. People like Damdred, Shapelog, Fuba, and Superbia gave no reasoning whatsoever for this lynch. They are scummier than the one who drove the ML. Fact.

Lol I litterly posted the reasoning behind why place my vote. Is it good? no, I find it horrible since I lacked a lot of what happen. Did I at least explained it? yes.

And ask if someone could catch me up.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 21:36 GMT
#1319
Oh wait no, I screwed up about the ghosts.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#1323
On September 11 2016 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 06:36 Shapelog wrote:
Only NK townies Shoot/Check....Aka Ven.

Scott can heal and that is it, since he is Benv,

On September 11 2016 06:19 Superbia wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:18 Superbia wrote:
Also I do care about you shapelog, take it easy man.


#pocketed

Good,

Now push my mafia agenda for me.
On September 11 2016 06:20 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 11 2016 06:08 Damdred wrote:
Can we not blame anyone, it was a push and a lynch. Tjats how the game goes tbh and being condescending towards hf will only cause a nuclear war.

But grac defending but not defending and calix chainsaw wifom defense is strange on retrospect


"LET'S NOT BLAME THE ONES ON THE ML TRAIN, LET'S INSTEAD BLAME THE ONES WHO DIDN'T AGREE TO ML TT"

SCUMMY AF. DAMDRED NEEDS TO GO. 100%.

FFS stop Cap locking.

Also stop saying what I said.

Plus, HF driving a ML doesn't make him scum. He had (bad) reasons to vote him, but he had reasons. People like Damdred, Shapelog, Fuba, and Superbia gave no reasoning whatsoever for this lynch. They are scummier than the one who drove the ML. Fact.

Lol I litterly posted the reasoning behind why place my vote. Is it good? no, I find it horrible since I lacked a lot of what happen. Did I at least explained it? yes.

And ask if someone could catch me up.


I mean I pocketed you.

I am in my love's pocket. And no one else.

Grack my dear?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 21:56 GMT
#1351
Vivax does too sometimes. Remember Nut?
On September 11 2016 06:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On September 11 2016 06:43 Calix wrote:
I would propose not directing the shot because I recall the scum have some Doctor role that allows them access to the TPR chats if they heal correctly or some shit.


That's what I said 4 times, dear. >_>

Show nested quote +
Also stop saying what I said.

(^ Shapelog quote)

Read the first 15 pages of this thread. Literally ALL of your posts were repeating what I had said 5 minutes earlier. All of them. Fuck off.

Bold is wrong, and I don't even had to reread.

Ik i was the first to talk about Vivax posting. I also have different views in those pages as well IIRC.

So no.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 22:00 GMT
#1363
We do do VCA lol.

We (as a site) don't typically do Night 1 however.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 22:41 GMT
#1399
I am here btw, Just trying to catch up.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 22:50 GMT
#1401
On September 11 2016 07:44 Damdred wrote:
Hi shape! It seems whenever we play together one of us gets pulled away, and it makes me sad.

Ah, I finally understand why your tone sounds different this game.

Hi Damdred! Eh, yes it does. But it does make the game a bit more interesting.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 23:01 GMT
#1406
Let me take a break (from both catching up and playing) and look at his filter myself.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 23:14 GMT
#1410
Hmmm,

From what I see, I actually see TT getting talked into his pool as a P-lynch, and voted TT since he was the worse of me/TT/Super for PL reasons.

The way I see it:
On September 11 2016 04:09 Skynx wrote:
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On September 11 2016 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote:
No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it.

It's a very strong opening.

But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because:

On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts are:

TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing

But... he's not mafia?


On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:

"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."

or

"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>"

On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it.

If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time.

If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either.

On September 10 2016 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
My assumption, and it's a very logical assumption to make, is that he actually read/skimmed the entire thread and saw nobody made this point yet and as mafia found a way to look like he was contributing by posting "new information" since mafia love to blend and talk about mechanics.

Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too.

On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?

he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:

a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset

b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.

SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.

Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.


Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.


Show nested quote +
TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing

So 1 meta, 1 shitposting, another meta, what u mean in 4th one i have no idea and one plynch argument.

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On September 09 2016 10:09 Tictock wrote:
Ending pg7.

The Setup stuff kinda bores me, but I should prob read through it eventually kus it sparked a bit of discussion. Kinda getting town feels from both of NU and Calix atm though.

My thoughts on Setup, the dead should make their own calls on how to use their powers and Last Wills are not that important since the dead can be just as wrong as anyone about stuff.

Basically the only setup thing that's important to living players imo is being able to see who the dead are voting for as that gives us insight into their thoughts. In general though it is best to approach this game as a straight all vanilla game with some potential information coming from dead players.




Seems we've got a fairly active game started up here. I'm gunna have to catchup more after dinner.

So you are referring to him calling the setup boring but he should read it boils down to being illogical therefore he must be scum. You say you are assuming here, a very logical assumption.

How logical it is to assume this whole thing is very weak?
Your case is based on meta, shitposting, assumption and policy.
2 of those above can be applied to 4 I've mentioned earlier, they are essentially same with ticktock with exception that they actually posted stuff.
Therefore your strongest argument is the 'logical assumption' you made earlier which is debatable at best.

On September 11 2016 04:21 Skynx wrote:
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On September 11 2016 04:15 Damdred wrote:
On September 11 2016 04:13 Skynx wrote:
On September 11 2016 04:05 Damdred wrote:
On September 11 2016 04:00 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no idea why because I can't identify any of Damdred's posts that make me feel this way, but I think Shapelog/TT would both be better lynches than Damdred.

I still fully expect Palmar to show up in some capacity before the deadline, and hopefully he can weigh in on what I've written about HF.


My heart glitters as you mention my name.

But on a serious side, grac I think sky is interesting he's usually so... closed with who he wants to lynch bit he has such a wide variety keeping,hi a options open. What do you think of this?

lol opportunism at best. Give me a clear lynch target for today ser Damdy.


Here's the thing we have a list (in my mind) of mostly lynched today and tt is probably the least bad and it's all,going to,be based on meta and strange posts.

It would go like

Tt
Shape/super

And then there is a wide gap and cal is super low, with grack and you to a lesser extent.

The rest I either want to,ignore or think are town mostly

I mostly agree. TT, Shape, Super and Palmar are all plynches.

Whats bothering me and what I've been trying to say over last few pages is TT is not as good of a lynch as other 3 because he is TOTALLY afk. Rest have been posting with no content whatsoever.
Super just trolled and commented on setup for 3 entire pages of filter.
Palmar said he will just not read or post.
Shape posted walls of text that says nothing at all.

But we are tunnelling on 1 guy that is actually away while 3 people we have more data that reliably suggests that they did jack shit all game but no one even considers them.

So if we are dealing with these points:
Somehow TT sneaked into his lynch pool without previous notice. It's a big contradiction considering he disagreed with HF.

He says that HF is painting TT as scum, but then votes him and says that it's a PL? I understand that he didn't have a strong scum-read, but voting someone who he acknowledges has aa shitty train on him is brutally bad when there were other possible PLs he himself proposed.

I mean He disagreed with TT being a scum read. He thought TT was a P-lynch and that was it. He points our what he thinks are errors in HF's read, and states that TT was a P-lynch. And he ended up on TT due to my filter being better (or not as bad?) and over super due to i think a discussion he had with Damdred.

Personally. I can follow the train of though on Skynx vote. I feel it would of been better if he had voted damdred or someone like that then TT, but it isn't like a major contradiction or anything.

Honestly a better point to make, is that late into the cycle, his pool was mostly P-lynchs, with the only one not being it was Damdred
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 23:22 GMT
#1412
On September 11 2016 08:10 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 08:03 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 11 2016 07:57 Damdred wrote:
Nu why is it again that sky can town hunt and you say he's scum hunting, but when I'm largely town hunting and trying to build what I think is the right group I am not?

And no I disagree with your conclusions over all on sky him voting tt especially when there was a movement away from tt (to a poont) is just scummy.

In fact he complains about people ignoring the other lurkers and never really brings much of anything worth talking about up just says the filter he checked wasn't that bad.

Then he bites someone who he really shouldn't given his filter. So no it's scum


The difference is that you are not confrontational at all in your posts. As if you didn't want to make enemies. That just fits with you town-hunting rather than scum-hunting.

Why is it scummy then?

You make a point. However, you never really brought anything worth talking about either. Does that make you scum as well?

How is this making him scummy?


Confrontational is a nai trait scum can be nice or mean and,the same as town. This is a non point

I have talked about whatever I wanted to,when,I was in,thread, the fights. Reads, my read on tt most,of,these things were ignored by you however.

Idk if voting is mandatory where you are, but jumping on at the end,has the least amount,of responsibilities and,if he brought,hf near tie and hf,flipped even more heat would be on him.

His decision making,process does not portray town trying to push or figure out anything. Like what he said about ignoring super shape etc but never pushes then himself and votes the person he was upset we were pushing.

That's not town.


That is kinda why it is a bummer for me to not see him vote you. Cause at least then. then he is actually pushing a vote onto you. And others were on the wagon as well, so it wasn't like it didn't exist. From reading his filter, it felt like he was trying to consolidate onto someone. Hence why he voted on TT, as a PL. He didn't like the reasoning why HF thought he was scum sure. But ultimately, knew TT was a decent PL due to inactivity.

Overall, I can understand how he got to point A to B.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 23:26 GMT
#1413
On September 11 2016 08:22 NeverUnlucky wrote:
And of course Damdred points this out after TT was MLed! How convenient.

And you made me felt like the Tonal mafia point I thought you sounded like catching up after I talked myself out of it via saying that that just him.

How convenient!

I mean, it isn't like he sat on this, and pulled it out. You introduced it, and asked for thoughts. Now your trying to shade him via saying this about it? Like he did have a thought about it?

Hell, he was looking at people off the wagon after the ML. Which both of us saw, and pointed out.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 23:51 GMT
#1415
Just as I closed all the tabs, and was going to go back to catch up land. So I can go lie down, and not have to catch up tomorrow, since I know today I can tolerate playing.
*sigh*
FML
On September 11 2016 08:27 Damdred wrote:
Nu is just a joker now, makes me laugh.

In any case @Shape I think what hi was looking for on a reread was him actually bringing things up about the others in the pool.

Lets be honest sky is good at making cases and I don't see it here, he's good with reasoning and while I can see consolidation being the answer it just doesn't make a lot of sense with how his stance was when he entered the thread.

And he was pre try side lines during,the lynch and most of the day (slight hypocritical at parts of,me,to say).

Do you disagree?

And tumble is better than what I have read bout of him so far. And he was town the last game, where he acted exactly like he is now.

I reread a further back. and I see what you mean by the [u] part.

From page 2 - 4 I found Several remarks of him stating Me/Palmar/Tumble or who ever was missing or not posting or what ever. But I have to agree that he really didn't do much about them, other then just throw out posts about it. Shade posts? but honestly why bother? In actives would get lynch anyways for PLs.

And as I read further back. I noticed something weird.

On September 10 2016 00:38 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 09:51 Tictock wrote:
On September 09 2016 07:00 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 09 2016 06:46 Vivax wrote:
On September 09 2016 06:37 Calix wrote:
It doesn't look like you guys do RVS and I don't relate to the few posts being made so far, so I'l just chip in with some thoughts on the setup. Not seeing anything particularly eye-popping aside from the following:

- Names aren't allowed in Last Wills but if you wanted to reference a player (e.g., say you're a Sheriff-Vig who wanted to say "I checked X/ this player is innocent/ guilty") then you could quote some post numbers by said player, quote something they said, etc. I don't think LWs will be that useful for the protectives unless nobody died on a certain night because telling the scum who was protected last night in the event of a kill just needlessly gives the scum information on what the healing roles are thinking. If anyone knows what the Doctor roles would even need to tell the town (aside from telling us who they scum-read or something) then I'm all ears.

- There's always the chance that the scum can interfere with the message being given. Although they can only rewrite LWs twice, we can't rely on the LWs much but I think it's good to establish a way for the dead townies to communicate with the rest of the thread because I'm not seeing a way that the scum manipulation of the LWs/ votes can be prevented.

- We might want to be careful with policy lynching apathetic/ inactive players or being sloppy with CFDs in general. I've been told that TL is more open to policy lynches compared to where I come from, but since lynched players become Sheriff-Vigs, I think it would be suboptimal play to give lazy players a KPN in the early stages. This point might be moot, however, as I don't know how anyone here plays or if anyone would qualify as policy-lynch material. (save for NU who I wouldn't consider a policy lynch)

Anyway, hi. It's pretty late for me so if I randomly drop off, don't be surprised.


Bolded seems like fluff tbh cause you don't seem to have any own ideas to contribute for this part.

"we have to find out what to do" . Who would've thought.

Your last point is also pretty uninformative. It's like you're suggesting not to lynch. Doesn't look as bad as your second though. But still.

You get a bit of benefit of the doubt for this being your first game here, but if somebody is meh for me right now it's you.


Also, she infered that town had PRs before they were lynched which shows she didn't correctly read the setup. It's NAI, but

To add to your point about her fluff: she used words like "we" -- Scum tend to use those words more than town to fit in the group. Scum!Calix uses "we" a lot.

She ends her post with an excuse to why she wouldn't post in the upcoming hours. It's something scum tends to do more, but it still is NAI.

Scum-reading Calix.

@Vivax, don't give me or her the benefit of the doubt because we're "new", we aren't. We're both familiar to mafia. Giving either of us (especially her) a chance, it could be all we need to fly under your radar.



I like this guy, this is a solid post.




Contrast to Skynx here
On September 09 2016 07:01 Skynx wrote:
Nothing good on tv/twitch and you guys are no fun, I'm offski to bed.


First to post, been around, fucks off without saying anything and right about when things start happening.

Of all NU's actions you picked this one to townread him? Whats special about it he's arguing about how using 'we' is NAI...
I don't even know what to say about the point about me, sorry for not predicting when stuff is gona happen? When I left nothing was happening so I left.

Not a fan of this post.

On September 10 2016 00:45 Skynx wrote:
HF is town for tunnel on TT easiest read so far.

Into:
On September 11 2016 03:48 Skynx wrote:
Alright here is the deal people: TT is just soo hit and miss. He barely posted anything therefore no content to analyse properly. HF is tunnelled for whatever meta reason he has and blindly sheeping him is nuts.

TT is basically a plynch at this point but there are 2-3 others with similar no content no opinion just shitposting filters.

Can we please reconsider our lynch?

Both of which, he contradicted. He previously analysed one of TT's posts, and said HF+ things.

The problem is....is that i have no clue what the mafia motivation or agenda is for trying to get me/tumble/Palmar lynched over TT, other then the chance me/Tumble/Palmar steps up. And that is it. He is in a spot to push the TT lynch, yet doesn't, and goes back on the earlier points.

Now if TT was scum, I would have a reasoning. Skynx was trying to protect scum!buddy TT. But TT was town. There is so little he would achieve by doing it. And it is a High risk, lowish reward to get one of me/Tt/Palmar/U? lynched, and then get lynched for not having anything else.

All he would achieve is attention....

idk, the part i looked at made sense, but now that i found the quotes, I am confused on why the switch happen.

TLDR: it is off now that I look at it, but I cannot figure-out if it is necessarily scummy, since the mindset doesn't make sense.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 10 2016 23:56 GMT
#1416
Ah for FFS, which page was I on. 28 or 30?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 11 2016 00:06 GMT
#1417
Now Damdred is gone. He isn't sick. Nooooo. Makes me go through all the trouble of reopening everything. And is he here? Nooooooooo.

"He is just celebrating the knock up of his wife." You say! I Say "no! He is crying in the bathroom because he realizes he now has to enter fatherhood!"

Really, I want to talk with people. It actually really help me get caught up faster.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 11 2016 00:22 GMT
#1419
On September 10 2016 05:22 Damdred wrote:
So, hi. I have destroyed my phone by accidentally flushing it down the toilet.

So going to,be kinda not here as much until I get a new one. Will attempt to,catch up and make hf sheep me or sheep hf. Or lynch hf. Also three options possible (love you buddy)

How do you even?

I......

YOU ARE OUR CHAMPION FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 11 2016 00:30 GMT
#1421
On September 11 2016 09:16 Damdred wrote:
I'm here always pulling you back in shape!

The most likely motivation is easy ml and being under the radar in a somewhat lazy and hf driven game that's contentious at points.

Other than that it's towny looking to consolidate at least.

As for tw idk I'm suspicious and vivax has fallen off a lot to.


Thank god! I was going to ask the dark lord to make your child be the love child of Slam, Chez, Moosy, me, and Race.

Eh. Easy ML would of be just agreeing with it. My problem, is that he openly contracts himself, and doesn't seem to care. Maybe it was to look more town, due to being on the part of the wagon that was against TT.

But why then vote TT? If that was his plan, then he could of wasted his vote on me/palmar/Tw/you. And harp how he didn't vote for TT, who he would of know flipped green.

God this must be like how people try to read my votes when I am scum.

TW i am bothered with due to him knowing better then to town read me for what he did (Which no one commented on it. How dare you people. You complain about my WoT's being useless, but don't read it.) and his overall play. I am a bit put off by his last game, and how he was there. But I litterly have to read his posts as:

Let's Make Tumblewood Great Again! One lost scum game a Time!

because they bother me so much. He should be doing much more than this. He should be a easy read for me.

He's not.

Vivax, I saw a post about superbia (the one where he first mentions superbia) and the timing was really off. It felt out of place entirely with how the thread was talking. The caselet on Superbia was nothing great either. And I barely can remember or care nough about the posts I am reading around 30-40
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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 11 2016 00:32 GMT
#1422
On September 11 2016 09:25 Damdred wrote:
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On September 11 2016 09:22 Shapelog wrote:
On September 10 2016 05:22 Damdred wrote:
So, hi. I have destroyed my phone by accidentally flushing it down the toilet.

So going to,be kinda not here as much until I get a new one. Will attempt to,catch up and make hf sheep me or sheep hf. Or lynch hf. Also three options possible (love you buddy)

How do you even?

I......

YOU ARE OUR CHAMPION FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!


I was getting up put my phone on the back of the toilet flushed and the phone fell and I went...


Nooooooooooooo, you were the chosen one.

My wife is somewhat upset at me.

I am upset with you.

And I don't have to even sleep with you yet.

btw, my fever is now 101.1, proving that mafia is a cure to the mental insane.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 11 2016 00:49 GMT
#1423
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I fucking hate this part of the game. The part where everyone buggers off after a lynch.

Alright. I am mostly caught up. Lets see if I cannot break out a Read list before tonight.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 11 2016 00:52 GMT
#1424
Oh yeah, this thing. Its mostly for me to understand the thread better (which is why i do all my Wot's)
Catch up. From page 20 to page 50.
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On September 09 2016 22:19 Calix wrote:
Skynx COULD be mafia, sure, but I think my current scum team theory holds more weight. Granted, this will almost-always be the case because Skynx has not interacted with anyone so we'll see how he changes things if at all.

I think this post relating to Grack/ TW/ TT are telling though. This was kind of what pinged me when I was catching up earlier. It felt like Grack/ TW were ganging up on HF with shoddy reasoning once TT was under fire.

TW's 'paranoia' seems so damned convenient because it reads like he's wielding it to push back against HF.

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On September 09 2016 17:00 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 09 2016 14:11 Tumblewood wrote:
On September 09 2016 12:40 Grackaroni wrote:
No but seriously. Since when is saying "I like this post" forced. What are you smoking HF?

thank you for calling hf out. this is part of the reason I am paranoid. his claims come off as kinda skewed to fit his conclusion. not enough to pin him down as mafia though. grack, you can be town for now because you also had one post that made me laugh earlier

That's pretty much my goal every game. I'm done crafting long posts at the start of games.

I'm at the same place as you on Holyflare though. His case (removing the "I like this post" part) essentially states:

*Ticktock made a wifomy entrance post.
*Ticktock stated he dislikes talking about setups and then talked about the setup, which is a contradiction, but he'll have to sell me on why it's a scummy one. Would the post be scummy if he made his post without stating that setup discussion is boring?

Also, to end up here after reading the posts seems like he's going way overboard.
On September 09 2016 10:48 Holyflare wrote:
I will never in 1000 fiery years vote anyone other than ticktock today.


And here I thought you hated pre-flip association.
On September 09 2016 22:41 Grackaroni wrote:
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On September 09 2016 22:37 Holyflare wrote:
Like people picking up on the semantics of the wording are bad and should feel bad. Sure he didn't say that mechanics are useless but his mindset is off from what he's actually posting and it looks solely like he's trying to skate by with low content posts.

But which is it?! Is he trying to skate by with low content posts or is he not coming back from dinner?

He did have a better start in that last game. If he's actually just bad at playing as mafia I'll vote him.

Also I did not hard defend him. What I did is what we call in the business a "chain saw defense." The idea is to hit the accuser with the chain saw while the other scummer has him distracted.

Noting to see how this progressed.
On September 09 2016 22:47 Vivax wrote:
What's up with superbia? A dozen one liners in a row, his plan is to get lynched, some of his speculation seemed misinformed. It's like he didn't sleep for 24 hours, drank a litre of coffee then started playing mafia. At least it looks like he's motivated to post.

I am not too crazy about this post.

Out of place comment on Superbia. Thread is talking about Skynx/Grack/TT/TW and Vivax randomly brings up Superbia out of no where. Nor contributes to the discussion about it.

A bit of redemption for the bold. Still a iffy post for me.
On September 10 2016 00:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On September 09 2016 23:58 Skynx wrote:
On September 09 2016 07:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 09 2016 06:51 Skynx wrote:
New players: "Hmm I'm nervous about my entry post so lemme post some comments on game mechanics to be safe"



Where are you going with this? Do you scum-read us both? Posts without conclusions like this one aren't worth much.

On September 09 2016 06:46 Tictock wrote:
Aw shucks, my streak of rolling town has come to an end.

Guess I wont be posting much so I don't accidentally give you guys info.


Lel.


Oh man okay excuse my ignorance why didn't you tell you are a tryhard from the start so I could ignore you anyway.

So see the problem here. I pointed out the problem with your opener. You say if I don't scum read you based on it my post is worthless.

In meantime Vivax posted the same shit just writing a bit more stuff then you guys argued three pages over use of pronouns and shit.


Ignoring players who scum-read you -- deflection/apathy.

You still don't answer the question.

Deflection.

SKYNX NEEDS MORE VOTES.

NU. Let me teach you a lesson.

Some people....You know....

Just don't care about being Scum readed. Especially early on, when they should be focusing on making content.
On September 10 2016 00:03 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On September 09 2016 23:54 Skynx wrote:
On September 09 2016 23:51 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 09 2016 23:47 Skynx wrote:
Anyway I'll just comment on stuff as I go along the game, will answer stuff here aswell if u like.


Again, another scumtell (which I've explained in an answer to Grock's post).

Okay I will ignore your posts here until I catchup if you wish so. Your push has no logical credit to it anyway.

Nice attempt to discredit me while refuting none of my points.


I am kinda meh about NU's stance here. Kinda feels like scum trying to discredit based off the tone of this one and the last post quoted.

I am trying to figure out better on how to explain it. I think the best way to say it, is that NU's tone here feels like he is trying to overstate how creditable his position is in the thread. And is trying to sound like the better man, then trying to scum hunt. So that others join the read on Skynx.
On September 10 2016 00:08 Skynx wrote:
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On September 10 2016 00:08 Superbia wrote:
My solution is usually to read the thread but not the content of posts. Especially long posts. People have boring opinions that are usually wrong and always inferior to my own.

I usually read entire posts of Race, is something wrong with me?

You might need to go get tested for HIV, and every other sexually transmitted disease.
On September 10 2016 00:13 Vivax wrote:
A simple summary/caselet of scummy shit superbia did:

- Spammed the early game up with the stream thingy cause it tends to get people townread, got sloppy about it for the sake of spamming and made the mistake about the roles.

- While having a circle of suspects of TW/TT/Grack, the best question that comes to his mind for Calix is about NeverU, literally the guy calix talked about the most so far. Any other question could have been more productive. Calix opinion on NeverU was already fairly obvious from earlier convos.

- That question wasn't related to superbias current circle of suspects -> ergo it was just a question to appear active, get people to talk about what they want to talk. And on top of it, it was a question easy for Calix to answer given that her opinion on NU is probably the most fleshed out in the game.

- One point that isn't as important to me, but still relevant: The fact he had the same early scumreads as HF but somehow didn't relate to what HF wrote about them, or talked about HFs posts on them. This usually wouldn't be a problem if superbia actually brought up points of his own that seemed better to him than HFs points, but since I don't really see anything explaining why TT is mafia, this isn't the case.

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On September 09 2016 22:03 Superbia wrote:
On September 09 2016 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
How are both those people related?

(shit did someone say something earlier and now my thread reading is a lie?)


They're both in this game. I have been inclined to group them together though I believe this has been covered by Calix before. TW's read on TT seemed non-existent and kind of forced. Plus he was willing to ignore your push on him because of 'paranoia'. Felt awkward. Like "look at how townie-paranoid I am" while not committing to anything.


This is the reason superbia believes them to be suspect. It looks entirely based on TWs read on TT. You tell me if that's a good reason.

Follow up from Vivax about Superbia was meh. Point 1 I don't love. 2 is a ok point to make. 3, too early in the game to state this IMO. You should sus. everyone (or talk to everyone) till halfway through Day 1. 4 is WIFOM reasoning.

Doesn't make me feel any better about it.

On September 10 2016 00:49 Tumblewood wrote:
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On September 10 2016 00:03 Calix wrote:
NU vs Skynx is getting dumb. All I'm seeing is NU conflating contribution with alignment and Skynx getting annoyed.

NU, maybe back off and see what Skynx does when they finish catching up/ are not playing Overwatch or what the fuck ever and then resume this.

truth
nu vs. skynx is TvT. as long as skynx isn't voting me I will sheep him because I am 90ish percent sure he's town and his voting record is about twice as good as mine. this subject to change if/when I lose confidence in that read or get pissed at someone

This is really fucking strange from Tumble.

I have never seen Tumble act like this besides the last game he played in. He was town that game, but....

Just it doesn't feel like at all how tumble plays. Tumble as town is pretty good, and for him to vote with Skynx based off of Previous game vote records......

I don't even know what to make of it. It just like Tumble flipped the Good Town play-style switch off.

NU voices what I would say (minus meta.) + Show Spoiler +
On September 10 2016 00:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On September 10 2016 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
actually I am too waffly on NU to call him fully town just yet. he is too experienced and too wtf for me to make a newbie call. but I think he is town, even though he does stupid shit like have 5 scumreads or argue about how I need to explain everything


This is my 7th FM game. I'm not too experienced for anyone to read.

How the fuck do you call me too experienced and newbie in the same sentence?

There are two methods to find the scum:
1. Go for town-reads and find scum by PoE.
2. Find the scumminess in players' posts.

We all use both manners, but we tend to favor one over the other. For instance, Damdred only has town-reads so far, so he has a preference for 1., while I have 5 scum-reads, so I like 2. better. Having 5 scum-reads is neither stupid nor AI.

How about...
... you actually explain 'everything'? I won't ask you to explain anything if you do explain them, zzz.

Did either misread or misrep. Tumble though. Never stated he was both newbie and expereinced.

Maybe I need to reconsider my earlier point about the tone of NU. It still bothers me, but it just could be how he plays. Will filter and see afterwards.
On September 10 2016 04:20 Tumblewood wrote:
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On September 10 2016 00:58 Superbia wrote:
On September 10 2016 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
actually I am too waffly on NU to call him fully town just yet. he is too experienced and too wtf for me to make a newbie call. but I think he is town, even though he does stupid shit like have 5 scumreads or argue about how I need to explain everything


Cool talk about mafia pls.

idk who that is. I think hf's points on tt are mostly blown out of proportion if that's what you mean. posts are created faster than I can read and post about them all so until 2:15ish (pst) I can't really do that
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On September 10 2016 00:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 10 2016 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
actually I am too waffly on NU to call him fully town just yet. he is too experienced and too wtf for me to make a newbie call. but I think he is town, even though he does stupid shit like have 5 scumreads or argue about how I need to explain everything


This is my 7th FM game. I'm not too experienced for anyone to read.

How the fuck do you call me too experienced and newbie in the same sentence?

There are two methods to find the scum:
1. Go for town-reads and find scum by PoE.
2. Find the scumminess in players' posts.

We all use both manners, but we tend to favor one over the other. For instance, Damdred only has town-reads so far, so he has a preference for 1., while I have 5 scum-reads, so I like 2. better. Having 5 scum-reads is neither stupid nor AI.

How about...
... you actually explain 'everything'? I won't ask you to explain anything if you do explain them, zzz.

ok only seven games means you can probably be read by the tells I use for newbies, which leads me to call you town
will be back soon (TM)

At this point, your crappyness must mean your scum.

Just, Your posts make me cringe. Their that bad.

From now on, I am going to say this,
Make Tumblewood Great again. One Lost scum game a Time.
Whenever I need to comment on your posts.
On September 10 2016 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
all of your posts come off like you have a massive stick rammed so far up your arse that you're poking people in the eyes with it by speaking

HF SEES IT TOO!

So I am not alone with the fact NU Tone seems like a Mafioso.
On September 10 2016 02:32 Calix wrote:
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On September 10 2016 01:38 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 10 2016 01:34 Calix wrote:

Uh yes? People generally have opinions on popular topics of discussion, especially when suspects are being discussed. Why would you not want to give yours? Even if you don't think you have anything new to add, saying something like "I agree with X" is still better than nothing.


What is your take on the Vivax - Superbia showdown hen?

What game are you referring to, Hype Mafia?


Please tell me you aren't going to go read other games to meta-read someone/understand someone's behavior...

So associations/ narratives?

duh


I prefer to have the person I'm talking to answer my posts, not a spokesperson.

I don't consider it a 'showdown' actually, just two people being jumpy around each other. Vivax analysed some of Superbia's posts, Superbia responded and Vivax repeated the points when stating his scum-read on Superbia. Also Superbia accused Vivax of OMGUS which seemed out of nowhere, but I don't remember Superbia's previous scum-read on Vivax. Granted, I only skim-read it so this opinion is shit, but nothing Vivax pointed out is that scummy (seemed more theoretical, like when he was saying "Superbia could be trying to make Calix scum-read NU", so stuff like that is too...abstract (for lack of a better word) to appeal to me)

I didn't see anything that only scum would do from either of them. I might reread that later and revise my 'thoughts' but don't hold your breath.

lmao. This game is active/ spammy enough for me. Hell no am I going to look at this thread and decide "ah yes I shall spend time reading another game". I haven't properly looked through any 'filters' yet if I am honest.

I'd rather try and motivate myself to do that before EOD and see if I can find something. That whole 'finding shit that only scum would say' is why I'm not full-on scum-reading Vivax, by the way, because while scum COULD play like him, I don't recall him doing anything that only scum would do. Don't know if that makes much sense but that's where my thoughts are atm with him.

I really like this post! Townie tone, Townie mindset, it really is just a very obv. townie post.

I mean, I had the tinfoil that Cal was Nerco, but I cannot prove it. Plus the way she distalked the LW thinking about it now, makes me think that it wasn't a plan move for LW control.

Town.
On September 10 2016 02:53 fuba wrote:
I'd thought that "lynchbait" is when a player is prone to attracting votes as town, which would indicate a TW town read from NU, given that he doesn't have any knowledge of TW's meta. And I was well aware that this is contrary to his general thoughts on TW at that point in the game. That's why I wouldn't really revisit it unless TW flips town (if/when that happens). I.E. if TW flips town, this could have been a slip.

Actually, mentioning that he's lynchbait is counterproductive to getting TW lynched, so why even mention it? Gonna need to think about this more after work - need my computer in front of me XD

What?

I...I mean...Um...Nice tinfoil?

Let's make Tumblewood Great again! One scum game lost a time!

But really, It isn't worth bothering with slips from a personal view point. Easy for scum to screw you over with.
On September 10 2016 04:06 Skynx wrote:
Shape is being shape and posting walls of comments on stuff. You have any reads bro, particularly on fuba and hf? Bonus points for relating gif.


Ouch.


From here, I stopped commenting on things to get caught up.

Spoilered because it is quite long, and really is hard to understand. Going to TLDR and make a read list giving my thoughts tomorrow or tonight.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
September 11 2016 01:04 GMT
#1426
Eh, I really don't feel up to it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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