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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 06 2016 15:06 GMT
#31
Do I slash in, and hope the crappy Laptop I am getting (very good deal tbh) is coming in before this game, Or do I just request to /cohost since this is the third Haunt Mansion and well.

1st: Obs
2nd: was suppose to play
3rd: Cohost
4th?: Host?
5th?: Post game Anal.?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 06 2016 17:26 GMT
#33
Well I cannot argue with that logic.
On September 07 2016 02:16 Tictock wrote:
Oh what the hell.

/in

It should anyways. If not, I can just multitask more when I am in the lab.

+ Show Spoiler +
It honestly sucks to not have my 10pm-2am work time. I am so used to it, and its gone. Like, that was my time to just lay back, work on ongping projects, and just finish up anything I need. Now I just sleep all the time. And I do that anyways during the day at times, so its boring. Like 1/10 it sucks boring.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 06 2016 21:25 GMT
#45
On September 07 2016 04:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2016 02:26 Shapelog wrote:
Well I cannot argue with that logic.
On September 07 2016 02:16 Tictock wrote:
Oh what the hell.

/in

It should anyways. If not, I can just multitask more when I am in the lab.

+ Show Spoiler +
It honestly sucks to not have my 10pm-2am work time. I am so used to it, and its gone. Like, that was my time to just lay back, work on ongping projects, and just finish up anything I need. Now I just sleep all the time. And I do that anyways during the day at times, so its boring. Like 1/10 it sucks boring.

Taking this as a /in
right

Is my name Henry?
If there's anything else that people want to ask/ remind us of then they're welcome to go ahead.

Hello Cal and NU, Welcome to the scene.
What are you currently in school for?
What would you say is your strongest part of your scum and town play style?
What do you struggle with?
Do you think you have what it takes to out-joke me?

I ensure you, that 57% of your answers will be considered.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 22:13:04
September 06 2016 22:11 GMT
#46
Wait a second....their names sound familiar.

Why do your guys name sound familiar?

OH SHIT!

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT GAME AFTER MY CP DIED!

....

Um...
+ Show Spoiler +

Mick Foley Save ME!


So...How... How did that Game turn out?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#67
On September 07 2016 08:05 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2016 07:11 Shapelog wrote:
Wait a second....their names sound familiar.

Why do your guys name sound familiar?

OH SHIT!

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT GAME AFTER MY CP DIED!

....

Um...
+ Show Spoiler +

Mick Foley Save ME!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiftmVaf0eA

So...How... How did that Game turn out?

In short,

After day 1, I went to slay RLVG, and a lookout caught me doing so. I was then lynched the following day. That left you, the traitor, and an empty slot (Was replaced twice) as the last scum members.

Firebringer who was replacing our teammate was sent to kill Kovath; the lookout once again spotted him in action.
Seeing as you were inactive and that it was 9v2 (including you), scum decided to concede.

It was a bad game all around: The setup was bad, 5 of the 15 slots were empty, and scum played like Eggy. Don't bother reading what you've missed, not worth it.
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Eh, idk why PRs were in that game. Towqn could already get at most 4 confirm townies off a scum lynch.

Also i can vonch for them being active


Before playing here, some players must go through the procedure of answering a few questions designed to establish their general ability to answer questions and assess their abilities.

Shapelog amusingly tried to mimic this procedure in an attempt to take a jib at me (and most likely at you). Rels does the security checks for newcomers.

Most of these questions are designed to perfection the game of mafia. I will consult with kitaman afterwards who is the head of the database department and is developing an automated behaviour processing system with the help of Palmar who is the assistant who codes words per post algorithms and similar minor things.

Let's start:

1. There are two guardians, one by each door. One guardian always tells the truth, and the other guardian always lies. What one question can you ask a guardian to find out which door leads to heaven?

2. If you would be an animal, what would you be?

3. If I posted this post in game, what would you think my alignment was?

4. What's the size of your ego expressed in football fields? You may choose to express it in bathtubs if you so wish.

5. Think about the colour red for 10 seconds. Then name a tool.

First, You stoled it from me.
Second, these questions are about as useless as Ness questions in outlaw.
On September 07 2016 19:12 Palmar wrote:
why are we interrogating the newbies?

Cuz we can.


Also no. There is no way to muti-quote things on TL (since the site wasn't made for mafia) You will have to Ctrl:C and v each quote into 1.

We make it up for our filter system though.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 07 2016 17:03 GMT
#70
In regards to last will, could the person who needs to give it rely thoughts the QT that they went to in it? I.E. State what the QT thinks? Or does it have to solely their own thoughts?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 07 2016 20:07 GMT
#77
On September 08 2016 04:58 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2016 03:40 Damdred wrote:
Rels I am glad I finally get to play in your masterpiece let it be epic and roll Palmar mafia again

Isnt it time town wins one?

Stop trying to bring Townie back.
The modern players don't know how to act.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 08 2016 21:35 GMT
#109
On September 09 2016 06:33 Vivax wrote:
I have the sickest idea instead. The moment Palmar posts, we call him mafia and vote for him.

Well, I never saw a Town Palmar when I played with him.

So I am down.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 08 2016 21:37 GMT
#111
On September 09 2016 06:23 Skynx wrote:
Would plynch Koshi D1 100%

I think pissing him off would be better. Funnier too.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 08 2016 21:42 GMT
#112
On September 09 2016 06:37 Calix wrote:
It doesn't look like you guys do RVS and I don't relate to the few posts being made so far, so I'l just chip in with some thoughts on the setup. Not seeing anything particularly eye-popping aside from the following:

- Names aren't allowed in Last Wills but if you wanted to reference a player (e.g., say you're a Sheriff-Vig who wanted to say "I checked X/ this player is innocent/ guilty") then you could quote some post numbers by said player, quote something they said, etc. I don't think LWs will be that useful for the protectives unless nobody died on a certain night because telling the scum who was protected last night in the event of a kill just needlessly gives the scum information on what the healing roles are thinking. If anyone knows what the Doctor roles would even need to tell the town (aside from telling us who they scum-read or something) then I'm all ears.

- There's always the chance that the scum can interfere with the message being given. Although they can only rewrite LWs twice, we can't rely on the LWs much but I think it's good to establish a way for the dead townies to communicate with the rest of the thread because I'm not seeing a way that the scum manipulation of the LWs/ votes can be prevented.

- We might want to be careful with policy lynching apathetic/ inactive players or being sloppy with CFDs in general. I've been told that TL is more open to policy lynches compared to where I come from, but since lynched players become Sheriff-Vigs, I think it would be suboptimal play to give lazy players a KPN in the early stages. This point might be moot, however, as I don't know how anyone here plays or if anyone would qualify as policy-lynch material. (save for NU who I wouldn't consider a policy lynch)

Anyway, hi. It's pretty late for me so if I randomly drop off, don't be surprised.

Town doesn't have blue roles this game. Blue roles are spirts. That is why I asked if dead person could related the spirts qt. Personally, if your about to get lynch, state who you think is top scum and why. Do so before night. That way we know who your top scum are, and you don't have to waste stating it. Then, tell us what the QT thinks, since they are confirmed town (or mafia). Also helps out, because even if the message gets changed, we will at least know the flip person's top scum.

2nd point: Yeah, that too.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 08 2016 21:46 GMT
#115
This point might be moot, however, as I don't know how anyone here plays or if anyone would qualify as policy-lynch material. (save for NU who I wouldn't consider a policy lynch)

PL's here basically refer to Meta, inactivity, Behavior, or just the basics of scum hunting (I.E. Obv scum)

I am guessing when you said NU cannot be a PL, you meant activity right?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 08 2016 21:51 GMT
#121
On September 09 2016 06:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I'm not sure how games are started here, so I will do some setup speculation.

The "Death Whisperer" is a heavy counter to TPRs.

+ Show Spoiler +
Death Whisperer
Win condition: Win anytime living mafia members equals or outnumbers living town members.

Ghost curse: Once per game at night, you can target one player.
If that person is protected by the benevolent ghosts' protection, he will die.
If that person is targeted by the spirit's KP, he will protected from it.
Death tracker: Spectral (can be used even if dead). If you successfully killed someone with your ghost curse, you will have access to the Benevolent Ghost QT after your death. You won't be able to post in it.
If you successfully protected someone with your ghost curse, you will have access to the Vengeful Spirit QT after your death. You won't be able to post in it.]



Using a TPR ability unwisely can backfire terribly if countered by the DW. Do you think TPRs should act every night?

If we ML today, the Vengeful spirit should not use his vigilante shot today as the DW will 100% target one of the three mafias. He has no reason to target townies as the Benevolent Ghost won't exist by then. Therefore, using the sole vigilante bullet N1 has the most chance of it going to waste. It is preferable to do an alignment check on any player and keep the shot for the following nights where the DW won't necessarily target a mafia.

Eh, I mean Death Whisperer is a counter to TPRs. It is basically their blue snipe I guess (Death -> suspected target for heal -> dead person)

No matter what about blue roles, we shouldn't really try to direct the spirts actions to much. Since mafia is in the thread rofl. I think we can expect the spirts to play smart, and prevent us from giving mafia TMI in regards to what a Veg/Ben spirt will do (since Death exist)
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 08 2016 21:54 GMT
#122
On September 09 2016 06:46 Tictock wrote:
Aw shucks, my streak of rolling town has come to an end.

Guess I wont be posting much so I don't accidentally give you guys info.

Bro, you haven't responded to me up in the mafia QT. But you give the townies your posts?

Shame.
*shames*

Eh, being serious, the last line bothers me. As TT is semi-setting himself up to not post much this game.
On September 09 2016 06:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Yay Shapelog is here. Hi Shapelog.

Hi Grack
Whats up?
On September 09 2016 06:51 Skynx wrote:
New players: "Hmm I'm nervous about my entry post so lemme post some comments on game mechanics to be safe"


Nothing like how I was in my first game.

I think like my 2nd post was tinfoil city.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 08 2016 21:59 GMT
#124
Hmm, I wanted to say vivax came into the game and only has pointed out sus, things in other people's posts (aka following mafia agenda). But he did play around a little bit with skynx and palmar post.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 08 2016 22:14 GMT
#131
On September 09 2016 07:00 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 06:46 Vivax wrote:
On September 09 2016 06:37 Calix wrote:
It doesn't look like you guys do RVS and I don't relate to the few posts being made so far, so I'l just chip in with some thoughts on the setup. Not seeing anything particularly eye-popping aside from the following:

- Names aren't allowed in Last Wills but if you wanted to reference a player (e.g., say you're a Sheriff-Vig who wanted to say "I checked X/ this player is innocent/ guilty") then you could quote some post numbers by said player, quote something they said, etc. I don't think LWs will be that useful for the protectives unless nobody died on a certain night because telling the scum who was protected last night in the event of a kill just needlessly gives the scum information on what the healing roles are thinking. If anyone knows what the Doctor roles would even need to tell the town (aside from telling us who they scum-read or something) then I'm all ears.

- There's always the chance that the scum can interfere with the message being given. Although they can only rewrite LWs twice, we can't rely on the LWs much but I think it's good to establish a way for the dead townies to communicate with the rest of the thread because I'm not seeing a way that the scum manipulation of the LWs/ votes can be prevented.

- We might want to be careful with policy lynching apathetic/ inactive players or being sloppy with CFDs in general. I've been told that TL is more open to policy lynches compared to where I come from, but since lynched players become Sheriff-Vigs, I think it would be suboptimal play to give lazy players a KPN in the early stages. This point might be moot, however, as I don't know how anyone here plays or if anyone would qualify as policy-lynch material. (save for NU who I wouldn't consider a policy lynch)

Anyway, hi. It's pretty late for me so if I randomly drop off, don't be surprised.


Bolded seems like fluff tbh cause you don't seem to have any own ideas to contribute for this part.

"we have to find out what to do" . Who would've thought.

Your last point is also pretty uninformative. It's like you're suggesting not to lynch. Doesn't look as bad as your second though. But still.

You get a bit of benefit of the doubt for this being your first game here, but if somebody is meh for me right now it's you.


Also, she infered that town had PRs before they were lynched which shows she didn't correctly read the setup. It's NAI, but

To add to your point about her fluff: she used words like "we" -- Scum tend to use those words more than town to fit in the group. Scum!Calix uses "we" a lot.

She ends her post with an excuse to why she wouldn't post in the upcoming hours. It's something scum tends to do more, but it still is NAI.

Scum-reading Calix.

So you read is really on:

To add to your point about her fluff: she used words like "we" -- Scum tend to use those words more than town to fit in the group. Scum!Calix uses "we" a lot.

Scum-reading Calix.

So....Your scum reading her, based off of (meta) pro-noun usage.
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On September 09 2016 07:01 Skynx wrote:
Nothing good on tv/twitch and you guys are no fun, I'm offski to bed.

Sson.
On September 09 2016 07:01 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 06:59 Shapelog wrote:
Hmm, I wanted to say vivax came into the game and only has pointed out sus, things in other people's posts (aka following mafia agenda). But he did play around a little bit with skynx and palmar post.


I don't follow. Why would the opening posts be AI/ indicative of town as you suggest here? I just saw them as weird meta references and trolling so I'd like to know where you found potential townie motivation.

Its not. I am not calling vivax town lol.

That post is basically NAI about vivax (as of now). I thought he came in and only posted sus. towards players, but his two earlier posts weren't that. Later, if he does, those two posts won't matter if all he is doing is shading people only (or roughly only)

only reason I posted it was to spark some more discussion lol.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 08 2016 22:17 GMT
#133
I just suggested a way in which Sheriffs could communicate their results to the town by saying "they can get around the no-names rule by using post numbers" which is literally giving a suggestion as to how we communicate with the dead.

This doesn't work due to the mafia change LW mech.

I mean, (and this is for everyone), tell me if this LW is altered.

"Look at the posts between X-Y (or player list number), the suspect with a Check is hiding there."
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 08 2016 22:25 GMT
#139
Vivax point is good (or at least points out the inconsistent in agenda)
On September 09 2016 07:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 07:14 Shapelog wrote:
So....Your scum reading her, based off of (meta) pro-noun usage.


Incorrect. It's based off her fluff, her LW setup spec that didn't advantage town, and her misreading the setup.

The town roles are so straightforward, no town would think that there are PRs D1.

But you said the bold was NAI?
Also, she infered that town had PRs before they were lynched which shows she didn't correctly read the setup. It's NAI, To add to your point about her fluff: she used words like "we" -- Scum tend to use those words more than town to fit in the group. Scum!Calix uses "we" a lot.


I can kinda understand the rest.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 08 2016 22:42 GMT
#152
On September 09 2016 07:28 Damdred wrote:
Shapey I think never is interesting, I kind of like to think a new person to the site would be more timid rolling scum but he's so aggro and wanting to talk.

While the argument isn't amazing against ca I think it does sort of make me lean town on never.

What do you think?

Well he knows Calix. He and Cal played on the same site that I met them on. Aka, NU has meta on Calix. Also, like NU has said, they aren't new people at all. They also knew roughly what TL was like, due to me talking about it in the game we were in. If it was someone on this site, I would perhaps feel maybe it would be slightly townie. As he doesn't have anything to compare to right now in this case.

+ Show Spoiler +
From personal experience of rolling mafia offsite, I never felt like i was more timid. I felt like i played horrible (bad fake scum hunting), I didn't feel like I couldn't post.


Eh, thinking further,

The only thing I could support a town lean on him is his endurance on calling Cal scum rn. And that's not much. Maybe also adding his own points, but those two out of three he stated to be NAI.

Also, are you drunk? You seem Drunk.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
September 08 2016 22:43 GMT
#153
I am a Dumbass, that post was suppose to be on the end of this one.

On September 09 2016 07:21 Damdred wrote:
Hi,

Who wants to be my friend? I will nee protecting this game from scum as I find myself deactivated already. Maybe vivax will be my defender

And your are our champion.

What makes you think he was throwing shade on other players (as opposed to say, trying to start discussion or scum-hunt)? I have my own thoughts below but would like your taken on this.

While I feel like he was misrepresenting what I said (with saying that I was 'suggesting we should No Lynch' when that's not possible and 'you haven't given any ideas on how to communicate with the dead') I can see someone trying to be provocative to get a reaction or move the conversation in a more productive direction so I'm not confident in my read of him. I'm also biased by default so I'm not sure wherever my scum lean on him is due to the "he's pushing me so he must be trying to mislynch me" bias or because he legitimately strawed my points. Leaning towards the latter given the examples above though.

It is just the way his posts come off to me originally.
On September 09 2016 06:46 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 06:37 Calix wrote:
It doesn't look like you guys do RVS and I don't relate to the few posts being made so far, so I'l just chip in with some thoughts on the setup. Not seeing anything particularly eye-popping aside from the following:

- Names aren't allowed in Last Wills but if you wanted to reference a player (e.g., say you're a Sheriff-Vig who wanted to say "I checked X/ this player is innocent/ guilty") then you could quote some post numbers by said player, quote something they said, etc. I don't think LWs will be that useful for the protectives unless nobody died on a certain night because telling the scum who was protected last night in the event of a kill just needlessly gives the scum information on what the healing roles are thinking. If anyone knows what the Doctor roles would even need to tell the town (aside from telling us who they scum-read or something) then I'm all ears.

- There's always the chance that the scum can interfere with the message being given. Although they can only rewrite LWs twice, we can't rely on the LWs much but I think it's good to establish a way for the dead townies to communicate with the rest of the thread because I'm not seeing a way that the scum manipulation of the LWs/ votes can be prevented.

- We might want to be careful with policy lynching apathetic/ inactive players or being sloppy with CFDs in general. I've been told that TL is more open to policy lynches compared to where I come from, but since lynched players become Sheriff-Vigs, I think it would be suboptimal play to give lazy players a KPN in the early stages. This point might be moot, however, as I don't know how anyone here plays or if anyone would qualify as policy-lynch material. (save for NU who I wouldn't consider a policy lynch)

Anyway, hi. It's pretty late for me so if I randomly drop off, don't be surprised.


Bolded seems like fluff tbh cause you don't seem to have any own ideas to contribute for this part.

"we have to find out what to do" . Who would've thought.

Your last point is also pretty uninformative. It's like you're suggesting not to lynch. Doesn't look as bad as your second though. But still.

You get a bit of benefit of the doubt for this being your first game here, but if somebody is meh for me right now it's you.

On September 09 2016 06:50 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 06:46 Tictock wrote:
Aw shucks, my streak of rolling town has come to an end.

Guess I wont be posting much so I don't accidentally give you guys info.


Is this some shitty attempt at getting easy townreads by replicating trfels opener from last game?

Looking back at the bold, I kinda see differently in the first (sense i feel mafia Vixax might of just not give you a break to make the point more against you.) But basically, it boils to how vivax phased it (and I associated it with how scum would phase something) Especially the second one. I made a remark about it too, but the way Vivax made it sound it to me was like he thought TT was mafia for trying to act like Trofl's opening, since it got him (trofl) Town reads.

If all his posts so far was like that, I would be sus. But it wasn't the case, so I posted it and colluded NAI, so I could still debate it with people (aka get others views) like how you and me are.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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September 08 2016 22:46 GMT
#157
On September 09 2016 07:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On September 09 2016 07:25 Shapelog wrote:
Vivax point is good (or at least points out the inconsistent in agenda)
On September 09 2016 07:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 09 2016 07:14 Shapelog wrote:
So....Your scum reading her, based off of (meta) pro-noun usage.


Incorrect. It's based off her fluff, her LW setup spec that didn't advantage town, and her misreading the setup.

The town roles are so straightforward, no town would think that there are PRs D1.

But you said the bold was NAI?
Also, she infered that town had PRs before they were lynched which shows she didn't correctly read the setup. It's NAI, To add to your point about her fluff: she used words like "we" -- Scum tend to use those words more than town to fit in the group. Scum!Calix uses "we" a lot.


I can kinda understand the rest.


Yes, it's NAI in most setups. I just don't believe it can be a town slip in this particular setup.

My scum-read on Calix is not a strong one yet. It's mostly a gut read. I want her to respond to my posts and convince me she's town if she is.

But....
Also, she infered that town had PRs before they were lynched which shows she didn't correctly read the setup. It's NAI,

You state the set up of this game. The fact she didn't read it. And concluded NAI.
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