Who needs 72 hours anyway! [M][T]

On July 20 2016 22:04 Lunaticman wrote:


Yes it is quite intense and I love the shit out of it. I would play it everyday if I could. The shocks. Someone could probably earn a living by recording mafia games and posting them online.

On July 21 2016 12:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I haven't played mafia at all for about a year.

On July 21 2016 12:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Actually I rethought this and I'm not confident about those two even. So I'm just going to vote for SL.

CASE AGAINST SL
SL has never been mislynched. So lynching him is a win-win situation for us.
Either he's scum, or he's town and we shit all over his streak.

##vote SL

On July 21 2016 12:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


woh when were you mislynched??

On July 21 2016 07:37 Palmar wrote:

actually prplhz said he thought he was 100% mafia

On July 21 2016 12:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


no it's not.
prplhz = purple haze without vowels

On July 21 2016 21:03 Lunaticman wrote:
Another one of my current lists:

100% Green Town
4) Lunaticman

Town read so far:
3) Skynx
5) emperorchampion
2) DCWasabi
10) Tumblewood
6) Rels
8) Gracaroni

Nullread:
11) Kruppe the eel
9) nnn_thekushmountains
1) Prplhz

Scummy:
13) Palmar
7) sicklucker
12) Koshi

cringe

I am extremly happy with the way the game has progressed, there is a lot of content to use for day 2.

On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:

Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow.

On July 21 2016 23:02 Koshi wrote:
Lunaticman


Stop annoying this man. Work with him. Not against him.

You will see he is town if you work with him.

Stop your tunnels.

On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that.

On July 21 2016 23:27 Lunaticman wrote:
I think Koshi right now might be the best investigator target followed by EC.

He has really backed me in the thread the last few pages but I don't know if that is good or bad. If he is scum I will never see it.

I hope Palmer goes online soon and hardclaims a role.

On July 22 2016 01:19 emperorchampion wrote:


Yeah he was town.

At the same time, we don't really know if he's advancing this game or not. For instance he also was heavy on the ksc lynch train last game, who ended up being town.

And here he is one of the first to cast suspicion on rels, which seems to be a popular thing.

I dunno the more I think about it, the less I want to lynch him. Also I like playing with kruppe , so by this I would prefer to lynch sicklucker over kruppe

On July 22 2016 19:13 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Show thyselves lurking predators! Blind Koshi excluded.

Prplhz, Grackaroni, Skynx, Sicklucker, EmperorChampion.

Your eyes hungered for poor Kruppe yesternight, elaborate on your behavior, Kruppe demands of you!

On July 22 2016 20:10 prplhz wrote:

not all vigis shoot first night. i wouldn't have shot first night.

On July 21 2016 12:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Actually I rethought this and I'm not confident about those two even. So I'm just going to vote for SL.

CASE AGAINST SL
SL has never been mislynched. So lynching him is a win-win situation for us.
Either he's scum, or he's town and we shit all over his streak.

##vote SL

On July 22 2016 20:32 Skynx wrote:

kush was a valuable asset. you see now what we have to deal with?

On July 22 2016 22:34 Koshi wrote:
a fear kill is almost always coming from Rels or sicklucker here.

Palmar dieing is really odd anyway.. I think there were obvious townies in the thread. Palmar really was not one of them.

On July 22 2016 23:25 Skynx wrote:

That's a sly line. If you're not town reading me for pointing out crucial mistakes from a town pillar I don't know what makes me town. This is not you Koshi.
I had a solid D1, both kush and Palmar were my townreads and I pushed agaisnt kush lynch when it was still in discussion. I had no reason to townread kush when the only main argument on why he's scum, by Grack was based on tone and I pushed grack for it.

Now I only have to figure out who are your teammates.

On July 22 2016 23:40 Skynx wrote:
You guys should lynch Koshi, Grack, SL in this order. Cop should check kruppe and Luna.

emperor, haze, rels are always town.

On July 23 2016 03:03 Grackaroni wrote:

If mafia were smart they would have left Palmar alive. A bunch of people would have voted him. I would have considered it for sure. There's got to be a reason to kill him.

On July 23 2016 03:14 Skynx wrote:
Think about it this way. Palmar and kush are two incredibly good analytical players. They are both eliminated and some people have no problem with this.

On July 23 2016 03:44 Lunaticman wrote:


I want the lynch today to be someone of these three:

10) Tumblewood
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi

I am positive there is at least one scum among them.

It feels like Skynx and Koshie are town. I had Tumble down as town too. Kruppe is an enigma too me.

I don't have time to do any deep analysis for until tomorrow though.

On July 23 2016 04:04 Grackaroni wrote:
It seems like the thread is in agreement that one of SL/Rels/Koshi made the Palmar kill?

On July 23 2016 05:34 Grackaroni wrote:



I was hoping to find some justification for your vote and I found nothing. Bad. Bad. Very bad. This is the 2nd time you've just hopped on to the wagon of choice while doing absolutely nothing. Care to explain yourself? Or should I just go with my own explanation?

On July 23 2016 05:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Sicklucker, explain your Kush vote. First you voted me because you didn't like my Kush vote. Then you voted Kush because he was voting for you. I get that you thought it was strange that he created something of a vote triangle, but it doesn't look good now considering the circumstances.

On July 23 2016 05:40 Rels wrote:
sicklucker, how is leading a mislynch scummy ?

On July 23 2016 05:43 Rels wrote:

Yes. Scum usually plays more the follower than the leader. Scum usually try to not appear to be too wrong. So I don't understand you.

On July 23 2016 06:53 emperorchampion wrote:


Who do you think could be third with rels/grack team?

On July 23 2016 15:04 Grackaroni wrote:

Because he's full of shit. First he wanted to lynch me because I was pushing Kushm4sta. Then he jumped on the Kushm4sta wagon because he thought it was strange that Kushm4sta voted him. End of day 1.

Day 2 he says that I'm scummy for leading the Kush wagon while excusing himself from all responsibility because "he would have been lynched anyway", which is a lie since Sicklucker is not an oracle and could not have known who was getting lynched that day until the day was over.

Now day 2 comes so he's right back to pushing me because I "would have killed Palmar." Where does he even come up with that? As he has said earlier this game, I played one game with him before and I was town and got nked day 1. So why does he believe I would have killed Palmar? Where is he gleaning this information from? It's certainly not from past experience. If I was scum I wouldn't have killed Palmar because Palmar was being suspicious and wasn't even suspecting me to begin with.

And then there's the fact that this thread is filled with information, which he hasn't used at all. All of the suspicions he has posted are based entirely off this NK, which is pretty much wifom. Some people think it was Rels/Koshi/SL who killed Palmar. I think it could be you or a newbie who is giving too much respect for the power of Palmar's play.

Either way Sl has contributed nothing of use besides sheeping me and then accusing me out of thin air of wanting to kill Palmar.

On July 23 2016 15:09 Grackaroni wrote:
And by the way, the Kush vote wasn't even a real vote! It was a troll vote.

So first SL thinks I'm scum for my push on Kush. Then he sees this post and decides that Kush is the right lynch after all. really?

On July 24 2016 05:02 Koshi wrote:

Who is mafia. gogo

On July 24 2016 05:07 Koshi wrote:
Why isn't DCW mafia?

On July 24 2016 05:10 Lunaticman wrote:
SL, the thing I don't like about your play so far is the bussing, it set of so many flags for me.

But I am pretty sure tumble will flip town, and there should be 2 mafia on tumble if he is town. I think they though they would get away with an instant lynch lead by me. I just wanted to root them out.

If we just assume then that EC, Kruppe and lunaticman are town. We also assume Tumble is town because I feel that he has been trying to solve the game and not setting of any alarms. By the same token we assume Koshi is town Who is left?


1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
3) Skynx
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni

Among these players I feel Haze, Skynx and sicklurker has at least tried to contribute to the town.

that leaves:

8) Gracaroni
6) Rels
2) DCWasabi
3) Skynx

Out of these it is a lot harder to determine, but I feel that here is where we should lynch for now.

On July 24 2016 05:22 prplhz wrote:

have you even read the thread

On July 24 2016 05:41 DCWasabi wrote:
Tell me who to vote PRP!!!

On July 24 2016 05:47 Kruppe the Eel wrote:


Kruppe wonders, what are your arguments sl? Why is Tumble town and Rels mafia?

On July 24 2016 05:53 Lunaticman wrote:
The only good that came out of this basically Tumble should be considered town atm, since I dont think the mafia would buss their own because they had a great day 1.

That is at least 4 town now. If we had another blue role claim now might actually help town immensely.

On July 24 2016 05:56 Grackaroni wrote:

It's out of desperation. You really think that you and DCW would be able to go on and win the game if Tumble gets lynched? Even if you contribute the final vote, not a chance.

On July 24 2016 05:59 Skynx wrote:


and now this. He has officially scumread 9 people seriously.

On July 24 2016 06:03 Grackaroni wrote:

His reads change constantly and are never justified with reasoning. I still think he's town but come on.

On July 24 2016 06:05 Grackaroni wrote:

What's wrong with the scum team Koshi proposed? Even without you in it it could still be tumble/dcw/skynx. Why wasn't tumble hammered if he's town? It makes no sense.

On July 24 2016 06:16 emperorchampion wrote:
Also at the end of the day, even if tumble isn't killed he's going to be left as a huge lynch-bait so it's not that bad. He's not even in the thread right now attempting to defend himself. He has no claim. If he was town, that means that it would be a not bad trade to hammer, unless we're getting wifom'd to shit right now.

On July 24 2016 06:15 Grackaroni wrote:

Who is my side of the game? Rels/Koshi/EC/Prplhz?

On July 24 2016 06:15 Kruppe the Eel wrote:


SL read Kruppe's post and let me know what you think.

On July 24 2016 06:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Town needs a leader.

On July 24 2016 06:37 Kruppe the Eel wrote:


SL promise to lynch Rels and maybe Koshi if tumble flips town.

Agreed?

On July 24 2016 06:50 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Grack is always a really bad lynch btw. It's always better to do rels or koshi first.

On July 24 2016 06:53 Skynx wrote:
So what happens if Tumble is green? Lynch Kruppe or Koshi/Grack?

On July 24 2016 06:54 Grackaroni wrote:
If tumbles is actually green SL might be worth listening to after all.

On July 24 2016 06:56 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Don't look at the vote on grack vs tumble if tumble flips green btw Kruppe urges!

Always always go for Rels first. Then maybe Koshi.

Please listen to dear Kruppe.

On July 24 2016 06:57 Lunaticman wrote:


he cant it will be 5/5 then.

On July 24 2016 19:49 Lunaticman wrote:
There should be at least one mafia in the grack lynch, the only way to save tumble was to vote for grac.

This kinda makes Grac a townie too right?

On July 24 2016 19:59 emperorchampion wrote:
There is probably 3 mafia on grack (maaaybe just 2). Almost certain that 1 of grack/sl is mafia, and grack is certainly town. I think we go sl for now.

I think cop only claims if they are about to be lynched or if the lynch target is checked green.

On July 24 2016 22:13 Koshi wrote:


The only difference between Kruppe and I is that he believes sl is town. I don't know why but w.e. It has something to do with sl saving TW in a way a townie would. But I don't see how scum!sl wouldn't do it the exact same way.

Clearly EC is supertown so I don't even know what Kruppe was thinking on him.


So the following 3 names are on both lists:
Tumble
Skynx
DCWasabi


Following names are on 1 list:
EmperorC
sicklucker

thats why kruppe is god and you are a scrub =]
Following name could and should be considered:
Lunaticman

On July 25 2016 01:15 Grackaroni wrote:
The game isn't making much sense to me without DCW as part of the scum team.

On July 25 2016 05:05 Koshi wrote:

Nowhere in this game has he ever tried to put himself in a good position. Literally all lists and all reads he had were 100% wrong.

Somewhere a mafia tries to actually look good eventually, they plan ahead.

DCWasabi was able to make the worst possible post each time.



Maybe he is mafia and wanted to win with all mafia alive. But I am entertaining the idea that he is town COMPLETELY on the wrong path.



And there is 2 mafia in Lunatic/Skynx/Sicklucker

On July 21 2016 02:07 DCWasabi wrote:


OK, but if there is one thing that I learned from my first 2 games, it is that it is pretty nontrivial to "work towards solving the game" on Day 1. I think the first thing that is useful that one can do is get some activity out there day 1, and get your tone established so that you can be more easily read as town by the town moving forwards. I think this is one of the things that I actually did properly as town in the Onegu Best Host Game.

Town should be trying to solve the game, but some of the players haven't even posted yet, for example it is 10am local time for me and I just woke-up 30 mins ago and am trying to get caught up.

I don't scumlean either of those guys yet, tbh.

At the same time, I kind of like this post by Tumble because it is the kind of thing that can help to start more meaningful discussion going and discourage people from posting random banter, otherwise they might get scum-read by this reasoning.

I am going to slightly town-lean Tumble because his post leads to a slightly more favorable environment for town.

On July 21 2016 02:43 DCWasabi wrote:
100% town: DCWasabi

Town Lean: Tumble, Empc, prlhz, Grackaroni

Low Activity Null: Palmar, Kruppe the eel, sicklucker, Rels

I don't fucking know man: Lunaticman, Koshi, nnn_thekushmountains

Spidey senses are tingling: Skynx

On July 24 2016 04:11 DCWasabi wrote:
I'm down for lynching Rels or SL.

Even though I have been suspicious of Grack, I think his case on SL is good. If I'm wrong and Rels is town then it is more likely that Grack is town and then SL is probably scum in that universe.

@ Lunaticman, isn't the deadline in 3 hours not 2???

I WON'T be on at deadline because I have a Programming meeting, so if I need to change my vote lets work it out right now.

On July 23 2016 13:03 DCWasabi wrote:
OK, well turns out "solving the game" was a bit too ambitious, but I can give my thoughts...

Rels: #1 Mafia
He tunneled me 4ever, confirmed town (to myself).
He is also throwing shade at tumble, who I believe is town and Prp who is my #1 town read.

Grackaroni: Mafia
Rels #1 bestest teamate, if Rels flips town then disregard this read

prplhz: #1 town
consistant tone, changes his mind when presented with evidence, hard to fake passion, hesitant to lynch Kush, good thoughts about Kruppe

Skynx:
I think she is town or a skilled mafia, more likely town.
Filter is fucking long.
Good logic and reading things, moving thread forward.
I like her case on Koshi and defence of Kush.

note:
I don't read prplhz or Skynx as Mafia for scumreading me necessairly, because I admit that parts of my play have looked a bit scummy.
They aren't tunelling me like Rels was.

Kruppe: town for now because nobody cced

Tumble: Town
He is either town, or I think he is a really good at mafia.

Lunaticman:
Another fking long filter.
I think he is town, but if he ever confirmed town... do this: Go back and look at posts where he suspected somebody and then see who questioned his credibility right afterwards or called him crazy (they may be mafia).

Empc:
Town, as I explained earlier, I don't think his play this game is the exact same as his last scum games. For me it is noticeably different, even if he is not driving thread forward with logic, I feel like his posts are more heartfelt and not forced. Either he is town this game or he got better at playing mafia. i hope I'm not wrong.

There is also some Wifom about his "random vote" that yielded Palmar. I think it leans town as it would be too obvious to then NK palmer, but Wifom will be Wifom. It is a bit weird though that he then didn't comment on the idea that maybe mafia were setting him up... but it is not like he was really pushing for a Palmar kill, so it is probably nothing...

1 more thing, he is defending me at a points where I think it would have be stupid to do so if he was mafia. I mean, if there are several town on me right now, then I think Mafia could have a good shot at lynching me with a push form just 1-2 Mafia (please don't do that).

He says I need to step up and I think that is fair.

Sicklucker:
Towny because his reads make sense to me

Koshi: Town
if he is not town then we will worry about that later, he can actually push thread forward if he is town.


WELL FK, one of my TR has to be Mafia because it doesn't add up

On July 24 2016 04:21 DCWasabi wrote:


Good reasoning.

On July 25 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:
If you keep pushing ec as mafia in the thread without actually having any fucking proof except hammering Tumble then I just have to vote you.


##unvote
##vote sicklucker


The guy is obvious town and this is the 4th 5th time you try to incriminate him for no reason.

On July 25 2016 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:
SL, you don't agree with what I wrote about Lunatic?

On July 25 2016 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:


Well I had no idea whether or not tumble was going to flip maf or not

On July 25 2016 07:33 Grackaroni wrote:

I think this is actually a super valid point. A lot of the likely scum teams should have conceded by now. Someone is try-harding.

On July 25 2016 08:15 Grackaroni wrote:
Scum must be discouraged, no?

On July 25 2016 12:13 DCWasabi wrote:


Thats WIFOM.

The fact that the guy who got nked thought you were town makes him a convenient target if you are scum.

On July 25 2016 12:25 DCWasabi wrote:


SL-
How did you know there was no vigi here when you were talking to Kruppe forever ago?
Just cuz they saved their shot long if they were vigi?

On July 25 2016 17:50 Lunaticman wrote:
My god, Koshi/skynx/Grac you are the most confused townies ever. I'm honestly tired of trying to convince you.

If the blue role doesn't claim today town will probably lose, the town needs to unify I don't really care how atm.

FFS: it is easy even if the blue role gets CC you just kill both of them and get 1 mafia for sure.

Then its like 3vs 1 or something like that.

my god.