A normal game just for JAT <3

On April 16 2016 02:09 JustAnotherScummer wrote:

Ah we have been expecting you. This way Mr. Tumble.

Now, I got some problems with this post from you.

Why does it make Onegu auto-town if gumshoe flips scum (as he was the first, and I and think that is who you are talking about) in your own words.

And If My alignment is easy to figure out, what is stopping you from reading me?

On April 16 2016 02:17 JustAnotherScummer wrote:

Ok, wanted to see your thought process on it.

What does the name of this smurf, have anything to do with my alignment in game? It is not like I name my smurf after I enter the game? Wouldn't you say, most of the reaction that was cast a upon me was pregame?

On April 16 2016 14:17 rsoultin wrote:


i really can't help but be amused that our reads line up so closely (with the exception of ows obv but i was liking his recent activity anyway), and we even both want to lynch the same person, but somehow my answers are meh

i don't think it makes you scum even though maybe it should concern me that you're fine lynching both the talked about people, cause i've liked your previous posting, but still

lol >< i mean, when are we gonna stop holding rsoul to higher standards than we hold ourselves?

On April 16 2016 14:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Describe "meh" for me, would you?

On April 17 2016 03:33 gumshoe wrote:
So I’m pretty confidant that tumbleweed is scum,



This initial post is a mess, Jas called him out on it, but I really feel he left him off too easy.

On the one hand, Tumble is saying that I did something typical of scum, therefore onegu is town.

On the other hes saying that I’m his top town read(while not offering any evidence as to why ) and that onegu is just null


Hes of two completely opposite minds here, his two stances in his first few posts pretty much cancel out, though he seems to still regard me as town for reasons he hasn't actually provided. Only one piece of information can actually be extracted from this contradictory mess.

That if I’m scum, Onegu is town and likely vice versa.

So let's run through the possibilities, the pro human scenario here is that I flip scum thereby clearing Onegu of suspicion. This is the least likely case according to Tumble himself as I am fairly townie, therefore the possibility of me getting killed by town are low. Which means we can also disregard the possibility of me flipping town and what that might mean for onegu(likely nothing).

This leaves the Onegu flips, if Onegu flips town (which I think he might) than according to tumble, that means that I, his top town read, have a high probability of flipping scum. Also to be honest an argument can be pretty easily made for why Onegu flipping scum doesn't look good on me either.

Tumble’s relatively innocuous linking of me and Onegu’s alignments hinges on me (his top town read) flipping red to be of any use, it also possibly results in my lynch in response to a practically inevitable Onegu flip.

So to summarize, if Tumble is town, he has created a vulnerability to be exploited, if not by him than likely scum, against his top town read. Or hes at least made said vulnerability very very clear, while effectively doing nothing for Onegu (as a potential death for me at the hands of town will not likely come before his, which means my theoretical red flip will never come in time to save him).

So yeah, kinda of a wierd move coming from a townie.

-------------------------------------------------------

So lets approach it from the other side, say tumble is scum, we know that me and him are unlikely to be scum together because of the existence of this post, which means onegu is unlikely to be scum with tumble as my death would never actually clear him(cause Im not scum if tumbles scum) and his death would not outright incriminate me according to tumbles logic (though I still personally think onegu flipping scum would do me no favours XD)

Basically, there's no gain to this post for scum tumble if either onegu or I am also scum, it’s a 1 1 trade at best. Considering that Tumble kind of contradicted himself with this post (saying I did something scummy in a roundabout way while making me his top town read) I have a hard time believing that he would put himself out there like that with no gain in mind.

Therefore we can only conclude that if Tumble is scum, me and Onegu are town and things would ideally go down like this for him.

Onegu dies, he flips green, then someone, preferably a misguided townie (looking at you Gb) comes after me for what looks like an early game pocketing of Onegu. I am then lynched or am cast under enough suspicion that I serve as a vote draw, thereby allowing scum more leverage over the lynch.

This is the scenario in which tumbles post makes the most sense. If we consider his scum intent clashing with his acceptance of thread sentiment (at this point several key townies ruled me green), we can explain the three major points of obscurity in his post. 1: His unexplained town read of me 2: his seemingly contradictory analysis of my interactions with onegu(in respect to his town read of me) and 3: the use of ‘the person’ and 'gumshoe' separately to refer to me in the same post.



I think Tumble is well aware of the contradictory nature of his post and either consciously or unconsciously reveals the divide in his play between what he feels he needs to do as scum to 'the person' and how he feels he should actually appear to keep his cover.

Yeah… that last psychoanalysis bit is a stretch but my point is basically this, his combining of me and onegu’s alignments makes much more sense from a scum view than a town one.

Thats the big thing, but theres some other bits.



Yeah… this really looks like hes trying to get people to jump on a nub.



Him giving Palmar a pass (another scumish read of mine) does not look particularly good on him / : (though to be fair alot of people seem to be doing it, fringe perks of the throne I suppose)



I feel like this kind of translates into “ I will sheep the eventual consensus on what jas is” which is probally how he came to town read me initially / :

Lastly his Rsoul push just feels really lackluster, theres no real emotion there, he just sort of kind of thinks she's acting meh. I'd go into it, but this is already long enough and the wagon on Rsoul started with a random Onegu vote so I have a really hard time taking the whole thing seriously -_-

So yeah, Tumble is currently mah kill of preference.

##vote tumble

obligatory

On April 17 2016 03:34 Rels wrote:

Didn't you have to confirm ?

On April 17 2016 04:43 rsoultin wrote:
yay town circle is here! \o/ even if i'm not really feeling a superbia lynch that much anymore lol ><

pues, actually, tumble, why did you want me to commit on fazer? like why, specifically, did you want me to commit on an obviously nai post from a brand new player?

On April 17 2016 05:10 Rels wrote:
Starting with this post:

Almost every post of Tumble is focused on rsoul. It is after Palmar started his "lynch rsoul" thing, so there is the possibility that Tumble is scum jumping on that lynch. He also has a lot of reasons to scumread her.
Noted above, "rsoul townreads Rels even though she disagrees with him".

"rsoul's reason to scumread Superbia seems fabricated".

"rsoul's answers are kinda meh".

Then he got questionned by rsoul and his reason to scumread her is actually:

"rsoul's answers are not exciting".


"town!rsoul is a lot more emotional"


"town!rsoul is more unlovely"


"rsoul's read on Palmar is not logical"

Tumble can you summarize your rsoul read ?

On April 17 2016 05:57 Rels wrote:

I don't understand the tumblewood line. What he is doing is what I expect from scum getting caught. If you were scum and were proven to have lied, what would be your reaction to that ? Because martyring and being like "I messed up go ahead and kill me" is the usual one. Actually it happened in the last game I played (TT).

On April 17 2016 06:01 Rels wrote:

I don't have any in depth reads. Apart from on you maybe, you are the only one I can post a lot about.
You actually don't need an excuse to enter the thread late. You felt the need to post one. That matches with scum mindset of having trouble entering the thread, so entering (1) late and (2) with an excuse 'cause they know they took their time to enter. In addition, the "I didn't know the game started" excuse is not very logical 'cause when FF asked you to confirm, you should have known the game was starting.
It's scum indicative. It's not very strong. I would not lynch you based on only that.

On April 17 2016 06:04 gumshoe wrote:


Your late (it does matter, it's easier to slip in after the initial barrage in maf, or at least feels easier) akward poorly throughout if not outright malevolent first post hasnt started looking any less bads to me.

As well Your nudging of rsoul onto fazers and your weak but persistant case against her come off quite red.

Then theres the fuck up that rsoul found (which makes for two major slipups this game including the one in your very first post) and your current squirming which is not all convincing / :

Assuming palmer really is a coin flip I sincerely think you are the best lynch atm.

On April 17 2016 06:04 Rels wrote:

Sure talk about what you want. I always try to read the filter of people that are dead, so I will read what you have to say if you flip town.

On April 17 2016 06:08 Rels wrote:

It's a good D1 case.
- your entrance is a littl escum indicative as explained above
- you focused mostly on rsoul, who coincidentally is someone scum would love to lynch if she's town, and you looked for a lot of different things that she could be scum for, when usually to find scum you need to pressure into a few specifics scumtells
- you fabricated a reason to explain something you said, and that reason is proven false. This is something that is way more likely to come from scum (who by definition fabricates their reasons) and town (who should remember their reasons, or at least not invent a new one if they forgot it)

On April 17 2016 06:21 gumshoe wrote:


Two times : D

On April 17 2016 06:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kill the people that aren't showing up and aren't playing.
Tw lynch is bad.

On April 17 2016 06:27 gumshoe wrote:


im feeling a bit of hostility ) :

also I've made my case multiple times as to why I think super is more likely to be town and your more likely to be scum. They arent going to change 40 min before the dead line.

I'll answer questions of course and interject should the need arise but otherwise I'm just here to keep yah company : D

On April 17 2016 06:29 Palmar wrote:

Bro I just defended you. Maybe I'll read your filter when it's not weekend

On April 17 2016 06:30 rsoultin wrote:


lol why should i care if you squirm? if you're town you might convince me and if you're scum it's just highly gratifying

now what were these so-called important questions?

On April 17 2016 06:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


If you take it as literal as possible it's either sicklucker or GB.

On April 17 2016 06:32 gumshoe wrote:


I resent that, I've answered all of rel's questions : D

On April 17 2016 06:35 rsoultin wrote:


this is the only question i can even find in your filter directed at me and should be immensely obvious...and the reason i asked you why you wanted me specifically to give a hard read on fazers' first post was because it's an awfully odd thing to say unless you thought his post was significant somehow

which obviously you couldn't have if you completely "forgot" why you did it in the first place, or are you trying to sell that you're that forgetful?

On April 17 2016 06:39 Palmar wrote:

uh... how do you know that it won't just make you the hero and superbia flips mafia?

On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote:


???

nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place

i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things?

On April 17 2016 06:42 Superbia wrote:


I'm pretty sure you called me mafia earlier in your filter? Am I wrong?

On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:


okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

On April 17 2016 06:50 JustAnotherScummer wrote:

Alright,
I am spilling the beans here.

I am shapelog, And i know that you always vote for the survival wagon as town.

On April 17 2016 05:23 rsoultin wrote:
yeah so anyone not voting for tumblewood who is 100% making up his reasons for posting what he did is basically claiming scum in my eyes

On April 17 2016 08:04 sicklucker wrote:
ok im not giving anymore reads. I want to live! tomorrow!

On April 17 2016 06:57 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
You still are way off tumble then what you feel like and i know as towntumble

On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:


why?

On April 18 2016 05:23 rsoultin wrote:


okay, so honestly, you're just really confusing me here. like you're not making sense and my first instinct is that should be scum but i think even scum would make more sense here, so i must just not be understanding @.@

it's as simple as...the wagons are between super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote super

then

the wagons are between gb, super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote one of them

why would your scumread flipping town be worse than your null read flipping town?

On April 18 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote:
If I'm the vigi I'm shooting Palmar.

If I'm the doctor I'm saving Gumshoe.


Yolo.

On April 18 2016 06:01 rsoultin wrote:


they were talking about shennanies and i said gb was the only one i'd be willing to shennany to

On April 17 2016 01:24 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, well here are my problems with Superbia:

- generally inactive (mostly NAI with a slight lean toward scum given he just came off a game as 3p)
- lack of meaningful contribution when he's here
- disappearing the moment he gets questioned after giving a dismissive answer (<- could be coincidence but i kinda doubt it)
- the post palmar quoted (so...while there's nothing that says a player can't think that another having the same reads as you might make them more town, saying i might be okay for that but then voting me anyway means he at least doesn't believe it very much, and i personally find it hard to believe that after he just played with me in storm where i bussed pretty much my entire scum team that he actually thinks this would have any bearing on my alignment anyway. it doesn't line up)

@super...meh=mehfia doesn't really cut it. tw explained what he meant and i'd like you to explain as well, cause much as i've been pressured from the start of the game again (yay! \o/ so much fun) it seems like a convenient survivalist piggy-back to me. believe it or not i'd rather lynch mafia today than a town super playing badly so help me out here if you're town ^^ otherwise feel free to stay afk lol

also getting more and more okay with lynching gb as time goes on ^^

On April 18 2016 06:33 JustAnotherScummer wrote:


Meta, Sorry i couldn't explain (I had to blast) but I can now.

As someone who has played scum with him, against him, and as town buddies, I kinda starting to understand Tumble. I was actually planning on coming forth with my identity (because I am the only one who would have that experience) earlier, but RL was a bitch.

Basically, Let me give you a quick synopsis of how he plays. Tumble usually is a low content poster, who most of the time, respond with questions or makes a statement. His filter, as town, is usually low in fluff, and if it has fluff, it usually is still paired with content of some degree (his noir theme posts for example.)

He also is pretty "cocky" if that is the word. Kinda smart ass too at times. rarely he will enter humor posts as town, and more so as scum (IIRC, he did this is ikido in the first scum game.)

And he usually always votes for survival too, like always. Which he really should of here, considering the person was a scum read of his before the wagons got close. usually he goes "Alright, I am survival voting X." Even if it is a meh read of his. Again, the only time I never seen him do it is when he is scum (though, this point really should be taken with a bit of salt about the scum thing, as he and I did it for a distance play)

I am just not getting the usual towny vibes i get from him when I am town and he is as well. Though i did click on his filter, and he has a 5 page filter, which i think is more than he had day 4 of any game lol.

On April 19 2016 02:40 rsoultin wrote:


dude if you actually believe this about gumshoe but still are calling me scum i don't even know what to say

please don't be town here please don't be town please don't be town

i really don't want to call someone who is actually town stupid cause tbf when rayn does it to me it feels awful but this is just so terribly stupid >< like you've tunneled me blindly all game and you don't have the excuse of being a silly palmar to hide behind

On April 19 2016 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:

Yo, tumbleman. What happened to your pretty strong townread on me? Seems like a pretty odd switch to me.

On April 19 2016 02:50 gumshoe wrote:



kk listen, I know you had a rough time day 1, everyone probs looks like your enemy, but jats not scum / : dude tried to protect you



and was pushing super before that before it was even that cool.

the games a bit vague, but there are some clear things here and there, especially from your point of view.

You are in the unique position of knowing for sure that your town (I only somewhat know for sure that your town) so use that vantage to actually find out who was shitty during yesterdays lynch and also look at the night kill correlation with supers vig shot claim while your at it. See if you can draw anyone else into that web.

I believe in you : D

On April 19 2016 02:52 justanothertownie wrote:

Explain.

On April 19 2016 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:


If I wasn't your townread yesterday then nobody was. You are just pulling shit out of your ass

On April 19 2016 03:38 justanothertownie wrote:

Ridiculous.

Ok, explain the following: I was the closest person to be a townread for you yesterday. There is no denying it. And today you suddenly call me scum for "going only after the easy targets" when yesterday I could have easily jumped on your wagon and today YOU ARE VOTING FOR THE SAME GUY I AM. Like wtf? Who am I supposed to go for instead of superbia in your opinion?
Nothing you say makes any sense.

On April 19 2016 07:33 JustAnotherScummer wrote:

What's your current reads tumble? Since you got good?

On April 19 2016 09:56 justanothertownie wrote:

If you want to die right after super then make sure to keep this attitude. You answered/explained nothing at all with this post.

On April 19 2016 11:38 gumshoe wrote:
you guys are so insynch its amazing,

1 hour ago I posted my initial question

17 minutes later you respond at almost the exact same time after not bieng in thread for hours

then I gloat a bit (at about 23 minutes ago) and then 19 minutes later you respond again within a minute of one another XD this is just the greatest feeling right now T_T I may never feel this cathartic again.

On April 19 2016 11:46 gumshoe wrote:


no no, stop you town smuk XD do what I said in my last post

On April 19 2016 12:05 gumshoe wrote:
I'm also pretty pissed at you atm tumble.



this is really fucking rude, yes I was wrong yesterday about you, but I've admitted that and moved on. The whole onegu correlation thing was a total fuck up I agree, but that does not and should not give you the right to disregard everything I say and be a total douche even though I'm pretty much the only one sure your town right now.

Also the whole fuck up only happened because you couldn't be bothered to realize that the guy who scum buddied onegu was also your top town read -_-

so get off your high fucking horse and listen to me without the intention of simply ridiculing whatever I say in order to fatten up your ego.

sl and obi jump in simultaneously over 20 minutes after a question that pertains to them being scum together is asked. IS THAT NOT SOMEWHAT STRANGE.

On April 19 2016 12:18 gumshoe wrote:


I read into things for fun, I dont honestly believe in a lot of it. The reason I do that is because I occasionally have real break throughs (scenarios were reading into small things meant huge breakthroughs) and I am simply imitating them to chase that high.

I didn't really put much stock into the onegu vt thing, I didn't even really have that much faith in my case against you after you said you fucked up your post.

Though at the start of today, I had a break through

superbia had scum shoot palmer so he could fake claim vig.

Just wait for it, supers gonna flip scum and you wont be able to deny it.

This is another revelation like that, two people responding to a question like that a significant time after it's asked but almost in synch IS a big deal.

and also dont knock my style as your pretty much wrong about everyone here, you've even admitted to fucking up multiple times and you still arent willing to drop the paranoia.

On April 19 2016 12:37 gumshoe wrote:
Last thing tumble



jat said this right after the night shot.

If he was really intending to use the palmar shot to back supers claim, why would he be one of the first people to strike down that possibility?

and even if he is both those things, he clearly expected fazzers to get shot(or at least isnt suprised that he was), so why did he think this plan was any better than a straight doc claim in the first place?

dont just try to be right, think about this, hard, this isnt a small detail, it's a supposed total collapse in logic. Would jat make a play that bad?

On April 19 2016 12:42 rsoultin wrote:


-pokes- let's pretend we're both not scum to each other and talk reads! \o/

On April 19 2016 13:08 sicklucker wrote:
ill probably lynch tumble next for agreeing to this lunacy

On April 19 2016 13:12 rsoultin wrote:
:/ so yeah i just looked at the op with all the filters and went meeeeeeh don't wanna

gum/jat/rels still top towns like yeah ^^ i think...i may...want to do the insane...and actually put sl here, too. and what's worse is i'm not even sure why lol it just feeeeeels like he's toooooown cause of engagement and i know jat will jump all over me for this but the only thing i have to say is

feeeeeeels <- i can't explain these bad boys. and given it's sl there's not a whole lot else i can use anyway especially pre-mafia flips

shape bugs me cause of lots of little things really and i'm not sure how valid they are cause i don't think i've ever played with him when i wasn't mafia before and i'm a baddy and don't pay close enough attention when i don't have to figure people out

but this concentrating on irrelevant things today just doesn't make me feel good about him

not as sure on tw cause of bad reasons @.@

On April 19 2016 13:18 gumshoe wrote:


What a coincidence I too don't care about your bullshit excuses : D

On April 19 2016 21:35 JustAnotherScummer wrote:

Can you go into more depth about:
Rsoul (just a sentence why you think you find her as scum)
OWS (Same, but why you find him as town)
Anyone else that has changed for you.

On April 20 2016 08:58 rsoultin wrote:






you didn't post between these, tumble...if you're skeptical of my read and even think i'm scum, why is super in could lynch and not in null?

On April 20 2016 07:09 JustAnotherScummer wrote:



Gut feeling is that there is a scum here.

On April 20 2016 10:21 rsoultin wrote:


what were those bad reasons? because frankly your reason looks like a shallower version of mine (afk is not actually alignment indicative for anyone)

On April 20 2016 10:19 rsoultin wrote:


well you're missing at least one and delusional besides given how little cred you have this game...but really i'd rather know your reasons fleshed out and if super's flip has effected any of these reads any

On April 20 2016 10:36 rsoultin wrote:


yeah you're just scum to me. i keep trying to see it in another light and it's simply not happening. the facts are this:

you would vote for gb (null read) but not for super (scum read) for survival (and super is now confirmed mafia rb)

super has you in his scum list with palmar and sl but never really pushes you until d2, and you only make the list after you were caught lying

you lied about why you said something. no ifs ands or buts

oh, and this one's more personal but still good: you townread jat for shutting down the doc cc but not me, even though i did it first and it's now clear that super was the mafia rb which means i should be about 100x more likely to be town to everyone, since his doc claim could only be an attempt to draw out the doctor and both jat and i would have to have been actively working against our wincon to do as we did. that you recognized this was a town trait but didn't apply it to both is highly suspect

tw for d3 lynch ^^ lock it in folks

On April 21 2016 01:05 Rels wrote:


Partner indicator right there.
The rsoul read was:

Which is a reasonnable and not-so-strong read. It didn't deserve that attack from Tumble quoted above.

On April 21 2016 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Can you explain why you are townreading Onegu?

On April 21 2016 23:13 justanothertownie wrote:

Does this guy ever have reasons for his opinions? For your information:

There is no case on me.
I am not low hanging fruit.
Yes, there are a lot of townie things I have done and once again you had me as one of your top townreads. And now that SL says lynch JAT for no reason you suddenly think I am one of the best lynches after shape?

On April 23 2016 03:49 JustAnotherScummer wrote:

I mean, I did get drunk last night. But this post pleading not to get yourself voted off before I even flip makes no sense.

Lets play a great game Tumble. If I am not scum, and tomorrow is lylo. Who would you vote and why?

Also why can't SL be scum here as well?

On April 23 2016 04:00 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Not only that, but you be going into Lylo in the case Onegu or Rels somehow gets lynched over you.
Which, in your own words:

On April 23 2016 04:27 Rels wrote:

This is so bad. So you're 100% sure shape is scum ? Why are you even talking about tomorrow

On April 23 2016 04:28 Onegu wrote:
I think I would rather kill Tumble here. Sheeping Rsoul seems like a plan... Shape has looked ok in these last few posts...

##Unvote

##Vote: JustanotherScummer

On April 23 2016 04:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Great. Tumble isn't even in the database yet.


YO, you did play a scumgame at one point, right? Mind telling me what game that was?

On April 23 2016 04:54 Shapelog wrote:

Why would I be trying to fake distance from you when If i was scum, and the thread thinking We are scum together, I would pull us closer?

On April 19 2016 09:06 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
These are my current reads, Not done. Finsh in morning. Comment as necessary. Might of missed X or w/e
Rels-
Activity doesn’t bother me about him.


ObiWanShinobi

Tumblewood - Scum (Super flip might change this)
He is spewing even more crazyiness. I already have a prob. With his meta (though, hey, He could change so meh) but he did not respond to my points about it at all. He also seems to be contriction himself more than usual. His focus on defendning himself thou, does remind me of ole tumble.

Super flip also is important here.

Rsoultin - Slight town read + gamblers luck
I am not great at reading Rsoul typically. Though, this time I can actually read her filter and understand it!

JustAnotherTownie -


Gumshoe - town
Prob. my top town read here tbh. Like a lot of what he is doing, and is doing what he said he would do about suspicious things. I pushed him on early on, to see how he responded and to get answers for the only thing i found remotely sus. From him. Lost all sus. Mostly after his respond to my post.


Sicklucker -


1gu - Scum lean
Scum slip post made my day (<3) missed those so much! Anyways,
Activity really isn’t bothering me tbh (he had to replace out of the last game me and I played IIRC, that or he missed almost the whole phase.) What is bothering me about Onegu is a following of things:
He really hasn’t chased after some, which I would expect from him. He calls people scum, yet doesn’t do much to go after them or question them. Kinda just seems mellow on that part. Like he can interact with his scum reads about something off topic, but he doesn’t really seem to try to get their thoughts. He does spend time talking to them/about them (Cough rsoul) yet he doesn’t actually do much. Other than call them scum again.
Some tone things, I brought this up towards the end of point one. 1st one is, He scum reads “x” yet jokes with them almost all the time. Examples:




He is also ridiculously Trolly this game as well. I’ve never seen Onegu, in all the town games I played with him, act so trolly. This might or might mean something to yall (never played with a scum Onegu so), but it is something i noticed


superbia - Blue or scum here.

On April 23 2016 07:46 justanothertownie wrote:

I love how this is all you had to say after that flip.

On April 23 2016 07:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


What exactly did you mean by this?

On April 23 2016 08:10 gumshoe wrote:


Your not dying tommorow. Rels literally cannot be your scum partner, and new evidence has come to light that suggests sl is totes town. Which means onegu is the only one who can be your scum mate, anyone who is ok with lynching you should have literally no issue lynching onegu first, so that's what we do.

On April 15 2016 14:39 sicklucker wrote:
Well no one seems to want to really play. SO im goinna asume some really scummy two way players are mafia. Its all I have and im going with it ##vote onegu

On April 16 2016 14:02 sicklucker wrote:


can we lynch them both? oh wait we can its called a vigalanty

On April 17 2016 10:32 sicklucker wrote:
Like tumble why do you think its all of a sudden quite at night? is it because we all have shit to do? naa its becuase posting reads is bad because mafia knows who to kills. I dont want to die. and im probably not scum and everyone knows it. Even scum is too afriad to push me because im unlychable if I wanna be. I dont think anyones pushing me in this game.

thin reasons im town lolz. Mafia has finaly learned to stop pushing me after a weak day one. im like reverse lynch bait really

On April 19 2016 12:59 sicklucker wrote:



we did where? what? like we both posted? seems like a thing that happens

On April 20 2016 06:19 sicklucker wrote:


ya thats not bad

On April 20 2016 18:18 sicklucker wrote:


it seems pretty weak. ill reread it in context if jats ever up for lynch

On April 21 2016 08:30 sicklucker wrote:
Superbia: (3) rsoultin, Obiwanshinobi, sicklucker, fazers, Palmar, GlowingBear

ok... thatss 4 towns now. im pretty alright to even say obi can be town now. gumdrop me and obi I think are the people off the table today

On April 21 2016 08:41 sicklucker wrote:


I dont like those top two town reads at all. might lynch. Both rels and jat could be town here but I think the odds are against it. If ther both town the potential mafia are down to three in you onegu and fake shape. I mean its possible... but its quite likely you townread your partner to push his cred because you need him to carry you

On April 15 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
I missed this one actually:


What is the deal with the smileys ? They don't make sense. Why are you not happy while finding townreads ?

On April 15 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:

Not sure this is a good point, I created a smurf named "Iwasrobik" and I know next to nothing about the guy or who he was playing with.

On April 16 2016 00:16 Rels wrote:
I really hope Tumble & Fazers start posting soon if they are town. They are 100% the lynch atm. They had to confirm so they should be aware the game have started.

On April 17 2016 04:06 Rels wrote:

Jumping on the easy wagon too. Superbia might be scum

On April 17 2016 05:39 Rels wrote:

Not believable.
##Vote Tumblewood

On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote:
JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed.




Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular

On April 19 2016 23:00 Rels wrote:

Actually he said "you're the dumbest town player ever". The "town" word is here for emphasis and is not very natural. Could very well by fakely spewing his partner town.
Doesn't prove anything but it doesn't spew JAT town I think.

On April 21 2016 05:27 Rels wrote:
My reads in case I die:

Lynch Onegu / Tumble. If one of them is not scum, lynch JAS.
If there is a tryhard scum, it's JAT. In particular check the way he interacted with Superbia to verify his claim that it's different from mine.
Gumshoe is lock town (read his past games if you're not convinced), OWS (being a dick & not fearing posting in thread) & rsoul (natural reads & implicated to solve the game) are very likely town, SL is maybe town (he's doing this thing I've only seen him do as town where he psots sprees of posts when he spots something he wants to talk about).

If I forgot some people they're null.

Hopefully see you tomorrow!