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On April 19 2016 22:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 22:55 Onegu wrote:On April 19 2016 22:50 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 22:47 Onegu wrote:On April 17 2016 07:07 Superbia wrote:On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. Vig shoot this guy. You're honestly the dumbest town player ever. Here he scumslips that JAT is town. Frankly, no. At this point he has already claimed so he knows he will die before the end of the game. Anything at all he said after his claim is WIFOM, and actually he probably tried to put his team in a better position for after he's dead, like Kurumi did last game. On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/
Should've lynched TW.. This is his post right before. Like and all he said was he was a PR before that but wouldnt say what it was then he made that post where he claims vt. So no it does matter... If sub flips scum I will never vote JAT. Mm that might be good actually.
Actually he said "you're the dumbest town player ever". The "town" word is here for emphasis and is not very natural. Could very well by fakely spewing his partner town.
Doesn't prove anything but it doesn't spew JAT town I think.
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On April 19 2016 21:35 JustAnotherScummer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 11:37 Tumblewood wrote:On April 19 2016 07:33 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 03:33 Tumblewood wrote:On April 19 2016 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 06:15 Tumblewood wrote:
jat is a tw approved townie
rels, jas, and gumshoe are not but are not scumreads either On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote:On April 17 2016 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:
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not trying to sell shit. it's obvious i'm doing my fair share of bsing this game but it's only selling it if i'm trying to say i do that frequently as town, and i usually don't do it as either alignment. after today i'm going to try to not bs because that makes it much harder to evaluate people when they can bs and get away with it
do you need extra reasons to scumread me or what ??? nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things? because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +as if that means anything okay so let's play a game here you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them jat is townjas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one) palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now If I wasn't your townread yesterday then nobody was. You are just pulling shit out of your ass nobody was though no one has actually confirmed themselves as highly likely town in my mind What's your current reads tumble? Since you got good? I'll start with you because you asked Jashape: I wouldn't rule him out but no reason to think he's scum yet. Really hasn't done very much to give me an opinion on him. JAT: Scum because he's so focused on the two people that he's invariably going to lynch anyway. SL: He's cocky in the right way, and his curiosity about the vig seems genuine. Onegu: Since I can't content read someone with so little content, spidey senses say town. Gumshoe: If he were evaluating how his posts looked about half of what he has would never see the light of day. Since he's not, town. Superbia: scum Rsoul: scum OWS: Town unless I'm being pocketed hard. Would like him to explain why he thinks I'm town. Rels: His D1 was about how mine would have gone if I were in his situation (and town). You think someone really messed up and is clear scum, you make sure they die no matter what. Inactivity concerns me a little but I'll give him time. Slight townread. Can you go into more depth about: Rsoul (just a sentence why you think you find her as scum) OWS (Same, but why you find him as town) Anyone else that has changed for you.
Rsoul scumread is fading but still present; I know this because all I can say now is "read pages 1-3 of my filter" because there's no fresh material and I don't remember the old stuff.
OWS town for not jumping on me ever. This will fade, though, unless he says why he's townreading me.
Also feeling better about Rels.
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Oh and I guess JAT counts too because the unflipped-association stuff with Super confuses me.
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I'd like to apologize for the excitement over the timing thing, it is a bit loose on its own XD I originally came to the conclusion that obi and sick are scum together due to how super was avoiding saying anything about them (even though they stayed on him after his claimed and if they are town they are perfect targets) and likewise they were avoiding saying anything about each other. And also how they basically had identical scum reads (jas and tumble to a lesser degree)
I asked sick about obi because between them obi was the end game bet(sick dies a lot)so I figured sick would make no real points about obi.
27 minutes or so later the both respond simultaneously after being gone from thread for a while. And sick gave me the exactl the answer that I expected / : "impossible"
It was really just gravy. The meat of my read is what prompted me to ask the case in the first place ( last wall of text has most of that )
I also had some other guiding evidence ,the plan that scum made around the Palmer shot and how it collapsed, the argument that tumble must be town if super is not rb and of course the likelihood that given supers play and schedule that he was likely fine with bieng bussed day 1.
These points clear more players than you would at first think / :
None of this is relevant of course until we confirm that super isn't actually just an awful dock, but can't blame a fellow for getting excited XD
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Hi I'm here to talk for a bit.
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Actually the excitement is a town indicator in general, and it's even bigger for you who apparently have a difficulty tryharding as scum given your filter sizes.
I think OWS and SL are town, OWS more than SL; but since this theory is linking the two, OWS being town would mean your SL scumread is mostly unfounded. ^^
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On April 19 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
Hi I'm here to talk for a bit.
yo
I think you cannot avoid a lynch even in the offchance of you being the real doc. Write the max you can if you really are not scum though.
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On April 19 2016 23:40 Rels wrote:yo I think you cannot avoid a lynch even in the offchance of you being the real doc. Write the max you can if you really are not scum though.
Meh. I've kind of given up. I wanted to bring the fire today because I don't want to take max blame in post-game, but I'm going to the movies later with gf. So meh.
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I feel like if RSO is scum she has brought her a-game here, but she's probably town.
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On April 19 2016 23:36 Rels wrote:
Actually the excitement is a town indicator in general, and it's even bigger for you who apparently have a difficulty tryharding as scum given your filter sizes.
I think OWS and SL are town, OWS more than SL; but since this theory is linking the two, OWS being town would mean your SL scumread is mostly unfounded. ^^
Oks : D obviously I would kill sl first ( pshhh I'm not a monster ) but yeah, I feel pretty solid about this one, I'm weak early game but when I can start putting a few pieces together is when I can reliably catch scum usually. And there are ALOT of pieces this game.
Psa never listen to what I say at Lylo, I'm always wrong on the final stage ) :
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On April 19 2016 23:27 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 21:35 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 11:37 Tumblewood wrote:On April 19 2016 07:33 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 19 2016 03:33 Tumblewood wrote:On April 19 2016 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 06:15 Tumblewood wrote:
jat is a tw approved townie
rels, jas, and gumshoe are not but are not scumreads either On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote:
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???
nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place
i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things? because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +as if that means anything okay so let's play a game here you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them jat is townjas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one) palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now If I wasn't your townread yesterday then nobody was. You are just pulling shit out of your ass nobody was though no one has actually confirmed themselves as highly likely town in my mind What's your current reads tumble? Since you got good? I'll start with you because you asked Jashape: I wouldn't rule him out but no reason to think he's scum yet. Really hasn't done very much to give me an opinion on him. JAT: Scum because he's so focused on the two people that he's invariably going to lynch anyway. SL: He's cocky in the right way, and his curiosity about the vig seems genuine. Onegu: Since I can't content read someone with so little content, spidey senses say town. Gumshoe: If he were evaluating how his posts looked about half of what he has would never see the light of day. Since he's not, town. Superbia: scum Rsoul: scum OWS: Town unless I'm being pocketed hard. Would like him to explain why he thinks I'm town. Rels: His D1 was about how mine would have gone if I were in his situation (and town). You think someone really messed up and is clear scum, you make sure they die no matter what. Inactivity concerns me a little but I'll give him time. Slight townread. Can you go into more depth about: Rsoul (just a sentence why you think you find her as scum) OWS (Same, but why you find him as town) Anyone else that has changed for you. Rsoul scumread is fading but still present; I know this because all I can say now is "read pages 1-3 of my filter" because there's no fresh material and I don't remember the old stuff. OWS town for not jumping on me ever. This will fade, though, unless he says why he's townreading me. Also feeling better about Rels.
Because you didn't sound like mafia.
I felt like a lot of your frustration/actions near deadline were genuine and left you alone.
There have been a few instances today where I felt your reads evolved in a way a normal townie's would have as well.
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On April 19 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote:JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed. On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch. On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:03 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 02:44 rsoultin wrote:
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you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_-
play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you
that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him
-facedesks- No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus. nope "the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do" i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol >< No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care. if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player. On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 04:31 Superbia wrote:
Like I agree my d1 was very afkish, and this day isn't any better. But I'm the fucking doctor?? You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went. You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much. Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded. Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game. Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment.
What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?
In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative.
Your angle hrte
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Phone crashed.
*Your angle here is completely pointless and weird.
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On April 19 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote:JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed. On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch. On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:03 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
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No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus.
nope "the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do" i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol >< No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care. if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player. On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 04:31 Superbia wrote:
Like I agree my d1 was very afkish, and this day isn't any better. But I'm the fucking doctor?? You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went. You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much. Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded. Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game. Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment. What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte
that feel when mah two top reads are arguing with each other -_-
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On April 19 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote:JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed. On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch. On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:03 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
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No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus.
nope "the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do" i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol >< No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care. if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player. On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 04:31 Superbia wrote:
Like I agree my d1 was very afkish, and this day isn't any better. But I'm the fucking doctor?? You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went. You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much. Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded. Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game. Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment. What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte
It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense.
I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted:
On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12 Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread. There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.
Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you.
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On April 19 2016 14:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
We're unanimously lynching the claimed doctor.
This is probably the worst play that I've ever seen but what can we do?
You could push someone else instead of keeping it up if you really believe this. What a dumb post.
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On April 20 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote:JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed. On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch. On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:03 rsoultin wrote:
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nope
"the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do"
i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol >< No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care. if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player. On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 04:31 Superbia wrote:
Like I agree my d1 was very afkish, and this day isn't any better. But I'm the fucking doctor?? You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went. You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much. Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded. Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game. Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment. What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense. I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted: Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12 Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread. There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants. Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you.
Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you.
If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you.
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On April 19 2016 14:28 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 14:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
We're unanimously lynching the claimed doctor.
This is probably the worst play that I've ever seen but what can we do? I want to call you town for this
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On April 20 2016 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:On April 19 2016 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote:JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed. On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch. On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 03:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:
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No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care. if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player. On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 04:31 Superbia wrote:
Like I agree my d1 was very afkish, and this day isn't any better. But I'm the fucking doctor?? You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went. You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much. Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded. Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game. Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment. What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense. I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted: On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12 Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread. There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants. Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you. Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you. If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you.
No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread.
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