On April 17 2016 06:15 Tumblewood wrote: jat is a tw approved townie rels, jas, and gumshoe are not but are not scumreads either
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote: [quote]
???
nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place
i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things?
because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +
as if that means anything
okay so let's play a game here
you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well
give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them
jat is town jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one) palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub
tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now
If I wasn't your townread yesterday then nobody was. You are just pulling shit out of your ass
nobody was though no one has actually confirmed themselves as highly likely town in my mind
What's your current reads tumble? Since you got good?
I'll start with you because you asked
Jashape: I wouldn't rule him out but no reason to think he's scum yet. Really hasn't done very much to give me an opinion on him.
JAT: Scum because he's so focused on the two people that he's invariably going to lynch anyway.
SL: He's cocky in the right way, and his curiosity about the vig seems genuine.
Onegu: Since I can't content read someone with so little content, spidey senses say town.
Gumshoe: If he were evaluating how his posts looked about half of what he has would never see the light of day. Since he's not, town.
Superbia: scum
Rsoul: scum
OWS: Town unless I'm being pocketed hard. Would like him to explain why he thinks I'm town.
Rels: His D1 was about how mine would have gone if I were in his situation (and town). You think someone really messed up and is clear scum, you make sure they die no matter what. Inactivity concerns me a little but I'll give him time. Slight townread.
Can you go into more depth about: Rsoul (just a sentence why you think you find her as scum) OWS (Same, but why you find him as town) Anyone else that has changed for you.
Rsoul scumread is fading but still present; I know this because all I can say now is "read pages 1-3 of my filter" because there's no fresh material and I don't remember the old stuff. OWS town for not jumping on me ever. This will fade, though, unless he says why he's townreading me. Also feeling better about Rels.
Ok, For me shes a weak town read (haven't read filter yet lol) + Gambler luck (Kush taught me this. Actaully thought you would role blue, do to never being blue in storm, yet I don't think I brought it up lol) My prob with OWS (again, haven't read filter) has been he is against this lynch, yet has not voted or done anything to contest it. Feels like he is testing the water.
On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote: JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed.
On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.
As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch.
On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote: we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT
On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.
This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort.
Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment.
And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming.
On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 19 2016 03:09 rsoultin wrote: [quote]
if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat
but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes
but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point
I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player.
On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 19 2016 04:31 Superbia wrote: Like I agree my d1 was very afkish, and this day isn't any better. But I'm the fucking doctor??
You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went.
You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much.
Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular
I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded.
Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game.
Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment.
What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte
It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense. I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted:
On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote: riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12
Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread.
There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.
Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you.
Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you.
If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you.
No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread.
Nope. It's like you have 0 idea how this game works. IF super is mafia AND puts in the needed effort and I see that we can maybe save with the obtained town sentiment him THEN I maybe make a post like that. NOT when everything points towards him getting lynched anyways and I am just making myself look like a fool.
I am acting exactly like a townie who does not KNOW superbia is mafia and makes sure he knows he can still salvage this if he really tries to. Which is something every townie should do because mislynching an uncced medic in an open setup is mighty retarded.
There is 0 scum motivation and a lot of town motivation for what I have done.
On April 19 2016 23:28 gumshoe wrote: I'd like to apologize for the excitement over the timing thing, it is a bit loose on its own XD I originally came to the conclusion that obi and sick are scum together due to how super was avoiding saying anything about them (even though they stayed on him after his claimed and if they are town they are perfect targets) and likewise they were avoiding saying anything about each other. And also how they basically had identical scum reads (jas and tumble to a lesser degree)
I asked sick about obi because between them obi was the end game bet(sick dies a lot)so I figured sick would make no real points about obi.
27 minutes or so later the both respond simultaneously after being gone from thread for a while. And sick gave me the exactl the answer that I expected / : "impossible"
It was really just gravy. The meat of my read is what prompted me to ask the case in the first place ( last wall of text has most of that )
I also had some other guiding evidence ,the plan that scum made around the Palmer shot and how it collapsed, the argument that tumble must be town if super is not rb and of course the likelihood that given supers play and schedule that he was likely fine with bieng bussed day 1.
These points clear more players than you would at first think / :
None of this is relevant of course until we confirm that super isn't actually just an awful dock, but can't blame a fellow for getting excited XD
Yeah, the point about them making posts at the seem time made no sense to me.
It is strange how much of their thought process aligns though. however, like you said, super needs to flip for us to know this.
Like, if you really think as mafia I would do this shit while superbia is just giving up then you are way more stupid than I thought. Not to mention my day1 interactions with him (about Palmar for example) which are basically never mafia/mafia in a million years. If I am mafia with superbia there would have been 0 team coordination happening all game. That is never the case if I am mafia (unless I am with SL maybe).
On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote: JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed.
On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch.
On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT [quote] This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort.
Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment.
And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming.
On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player.
On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went.
You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much.
Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular
I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded.
Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game.
Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment.
What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte
It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense. I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted:
On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote: riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12
Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread.
There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.
Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you.
Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you.
If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you.
No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread.
Nope. It's like you have 0 idea how this game works. IF super is mafia AND puts in the needed effort and I see that we can maybe save with the obtained town sentiment him THEN I maybe make a post like that. NOT when everything points towards him getting lynched anyways and I am just making myself look like a fool.
I am acting exactly like a townie who does not KNOW superbia is mafia and makes sure he knows he can still salvage this if he really tries to. Which is something every townie should do because mislynching an uncced medic in an open setup is mighty retarded.
There is 0 scum motivation and a lot of town motivation for what I have done.
Meh. Will have to reread this later with a clear head because the more you arguee this is proving you are town when it's clearly NAI at best and probably scum indicative actually, the more I want to lynch you.
On April 20 2016 00:34 justanothertownie wrote: Like, if you really think as mafia I would do this shit while superbia is just giving up then you are way more stupid than I thought. Not to mention my day1 interactions with him (about Palmar for example) which are basically never mafia/mafia in a million years. If I am mafia with superbia there would have been 0 team coordination happening all game. That is never the case if I am mafia (unless I am with SL maybe).
This is something I need to check. Will reread stuff once it's confirmed Superbia is scum.
On April 19 2016 05:40 Rels wrote: JAT I find your behaviour around Superbia weird. You're constantly giving him outs and not committing to calling him scum even though it's pretty likely he is given the way he claimed. [quote] [quote] [quote] [quote] Why do you feel the need for these posts ? Especially, the fact that you explain your thinking about Superbia again and again. That is what is bothering me in particular
I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded.
Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game.
Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment.
What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte
It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense. I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted:
On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote: riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12
Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread.
There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.
Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you.
Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you.
If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you.
No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread.
Nope. It's like you have 0 idea how this game works. IF super is mafia AND puts in the needed effort and I see that we can maybe save with the obtained town sentiment him THEN I maybe make a post like that. NOT when everything points towards him getting lynched anyways and I am just making myself look like a fool.
I am acting exactly like a townie who does not KNOW superbia is mafia and makes sure he knows he can still salvage this if he really tries to. Which is something every townie should do because mislynching an uncced medic in an open setup is mighty retarded.
There is 0 scum motivation and a lot of town motivation for what I have done.
Meh. Will have to reread this later with a clear head because the more you arguee this is proving you are town when it's clearly NAI at best and probably scum indicative actually, the more I want to lynch you.
You will not lynch me bro but don't let me stop you from trying. This whole retarded argumentation makes it way more likely for YOU to be mafia. Logical player my ass. You didn't refute anything I brought up.
The nice thing about nailing scum is even if town doesn't take you seriously, they do XD
Heres one of points that super responded to.
like how super has said jack all about how you too stayed on him after he claimed
this is his answer
well I was just scum with him and super knows I would sniff him out. Hes playing the same style as then. We already lost im going to post the minimum and just make last minute attempts to get lynches off me. Hell it worked that game tbh lets not do that here
he asserts that super is not coming after them because "sl would sniff him out" but if sl is town hes already sniffed his fill and super would know that XD so why is super not saying shit about two players who stayed on him even after his claim?
dude even called obi scum early
Also because GB and Obi are in your scum listy and I'm leaning the same way.
so whats with this days long gap of not even acknowledging they're existence?
Sl's reasoning is bullshit XD because there is no good reason for super not to be pushing obi and sl right now if they're opposite alignment
instead his current scum read is jas XD same as the people permavoting him that he cant seem to tell exist.
so thats just a flat out contradiction (love those)
overall we have the following links- obi and sl both stayed on super after his claim, they both got on him early, they both dont read each other (even though obi has no excuse) and they both seem to get carte blanch from super.
and of course, they have a habit of posting at the same time using the same arguments
obi after a 17 min gap in the questioning
I take it you don't get the "I'm an unreadable myth" thing that's going around, do you?
sick 1 min after
because I cant read obi. If i was vig I would have shot him
They just seem really coordinated while not acknowledging one another / : (they bring up this read wall thing at the same time even though it hasnt been really mentioned once this game, their just so in synch its amazing XD)
oh and also they are both blue hunting
obi
But he's the uncc'd doctor.
Like, do we even have any idea who else to lynch outside of the Doctor claim?
sl
(also though this is one kinda trolly XD)
but who is the doctor?
which lines up perfectly with supers current scum agenda, which is to trade himself for doc.
also sl scum slipped a smidge
like your just going to have to trust me. hes not the doctor
in general sl has been uncannily right all game
he supposdly knew fazzers was town
it was a terrible vig shot fazzers was my top town. new players are so easy to read sign...
but if he was reading the thread at all, he should have known fazzers was a vig target yet he did nothing to deter the shot on him.
Fazers - Future mvp of tl mafia calling it now
(troll comment)
and then come night
lol 3 towns voted super nevermind...
doesnt even mention fazzer's name...
I think it's safe to assume that sl knew he was town (as he claims) but did not care about him getting shot because hes scum / :
oh my god, you guys wont appreciate this, but I found the smoking gun.
whoever vigged palmar/faz who was on the super wagon needs to check their head
Aside from the fact that sl is basically the only time someone has ever considered the vig shot to have been on palmar(which would line up with the whole scum shot to back super play) the point here is, he suddenly thinks the 'vig' shot on plamar was terrible????? even though he was pushing palmar earlier?
no its not palmar was literally reading rstoulin off of nothing. He formed his read before any data really came in. Then he may have formulated a read to suit his needs. Its far more likely that the random person he pushed early and voted is acualy his top scum read.
(huh, he was pushing palmar and super at the same time, how does that work)
Theres just so much to poke at in sls filter I'm shocked more people arent scum reading him atm / :
On April 20 2016 00:34 justanothertownie wrote: Like, if you really think as mafia I would do this shit while superbia is just giving up then you are way more stupid than I thought. Not to mention my day1 interactions with him (about Palmar for example) which are basically never mafia/mafia in a million years. If I am mafia with superbia there would have been 0 team coordination happening all game. That is never the case if I am mafia (unless I am with SL maybe).
This is something I need to check. Will reread stuff once it's confirmed Superbia is scum.
You need to check a lot of things.
When there is an unanimous wagon lynching mafia you never ever ever ever base your reads on how people treated said mafia on that day. This is how you lost to shapelog in storm. People doubting the guy being mafia or giving him outs in a situation like that are almost never his buddies because they know he is going down and try to get their sweet buscred.
It is highly irritating that I have to explain something easy like this to you.
On April 19 2016 23:28 gumshoe wrote: I'd like to apologize for the excitement over the timing thing, it is a bit loose on its own XD I originally came to the conclusion that obi and sick are scum together due to how super was avoiding saying anything about them (even though they stayed on him after his claimed and if they are town they are perfect targets) and likewise they were avoiding saying anything about each other. And also how they basically had identical scum reads (jas and tumble to a lesser degree)
I asked sick about obi because between them obi was the end game bet(sick dies a lot)so I figured sick would make no real points about obi.
27 minutes or so later the both respond simultaneously after being gone from thread for a while. And sick gave me the exactl the answer that I expected / : "impossible"
It was really just gravy. The meat of my read is what prompted me to ask the case in the first place ( last wall of text has most of that )
I also had some other guiding evidence ,the plan that scum made around the Palmer shot and how it collapsed, the argument that tumble must be town if super is not rb and of course the likelihood that given supers play and schedule that he was likely fine with bieng bussed day 1.
These points clear more players than you would at first think / :
None of this is relevant of course until we confirm that super isn't actually just an awful dock, but can't blame a fellow for getting excited XD
Yeah, the point about them making posts at the seem time made no sense to me.
It is strange how much of their thought process aligns though. however, like you said, super needs to flip for us to know this.
ALRIGHT SOMEONE SEES IT FINALLY I can shut up now XD see you all at the flip
On April 19 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] I have absolutely no idea what could be possibly bothering you about those posts?! It's clearly the best way to proceed and some clowns needed explanation to understand it. Of course I am giving Superbia an out. If you don't you are retarded.
Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game.
Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment.
What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte
It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense. I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted:
On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote: riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12
Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread.
There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.
Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you.
Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you.
If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you.
No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread.
Nope. It's like you have 0 idea how this game works. IF super is mafia AND puts in the needed effort and I see that we can maybe save with the obtained town sentiment him THEN I maybe make a post like that. NOT when everything points towards him getting lynched anyways and I am just making myself look like a fool.
I am acting exactly like a townie who does not KNOW superbia is mafia and makes sure he knows he can still salvage this if he really tries to. Which is something every townie should do because mislynching an uncced medic in an open setup is mighty retarded.
There is 0 scum motivation and a lot of town motivation for what I have done.
Meh. Will have to reread this later with a clear head because the more you arguee this is proving you are town when it's clearly NAI at best and probably scum indicative actually, the more I want to lynch you.
You will not lynch me bro but don't let me stop you from trying. This whole retarded argumentation makes it way more likely for YOU to be mafia. Logical player my ass. You didn't refute anything I brought up.
You are the one not responding directly to what I'm saying. Your read on Superbia is overexplained and you repeated why you are scumreading him and why doc should not claim. You also left him outs to tryhard, he can't be saved if doc cc but he can make the doc cc. Now you're saying all of this actually makes you town. Bullshit. This is not a strong scum indicator, I'm not calling you slam dunk scum, yet you're reacting and OMGUSing like you are about to get lynched.
On April 20 2016 00:34 justanothertownie wrote: Like, if you really think as mafia I would do this shit while superbia is just giving up then you are way more stupid than I thought. Not to mention my day1 interactions with him (about Palmar for example) which are basically never mafia/mafia in a million years. If I am mafia with superbia there would have been 0 team coordination happening all game. That is never the case if I am mafia (unless I am with SL maybe).
This is something I need to check. Will reread stuff once it's confirmed Superbia is scum.
You need to check a lot of things.
When there is an unanimous wagon lynching mafia you never ever ever ever base your reads on how people treated said mafia on that day. This is how you lost to shapelog in storm. People doubting the guy being mafia or giving him outs in a situation like that are almost never his buddies because they know he is going down and try to get their sweet buscred.
It is highly irritating that I have to explain something easy like this to you.
Bro if you're town I undersatnd you can be bias. But don't call yourself town over something that obv does not make you town.
On April 20 2016 00:34 justanothertownie wrote: Like, if you really think as mafia I would do this shit while superbia is just giving up then you are way more stupid than I thought. Not to mention my day1 interactions with him (about Palmar for example) which are basically never mafia/mafia in a million years. If I am mafia with superbia there would have been 0 team coordination happening all game. That is never the case if I am mafia (unless I am with SL maybe).
This is something I need to check. Will reread stuff once it's confirmed Superbia is scum.
You need to check a lot of things.
When there is an unanimous wagon lynching mafia you never ever ever ever base your reads on how people treated said mafia on that day. This is how you lost to shapelog in storm. People doubting the guy being mafia or giving him outs in a situation like that are almost never his buddies because they know he is going down and try to get their sweet buscred.
It is highly irritating that I have to explain something easy like this to you.
Bro if you're town I undersatnd you can be bias. But don't call yourself town over something that obv does not make you town.
Not talking about the D1 interactions BTW, maybe this actually makes you town. But your Superbia read doesn't.
On April 19 2016 14:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote: We're unanimously lynching the claimed doctor. This is probably the worst play that I've ever seen but what can we do?
You could push someone else instead of keeping it up if you really believe this. What a dumb post.
I've repeatedly said we should get a cc and I've been shot down every single time.
On April 19 2016 09:59 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game.
Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment.
What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy? In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative. Your angle hrte
It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense. I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted:
On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote: riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12
Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread.
There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.
Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you.
Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you.
If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you.
No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread.
Nope. It's like you have 0 idea how this game works. IF super is mafia AND puts in the needed effort and I see that we can maybe save with the obtained town sentiment him THEN I maybe make a post like that. NOT when everything points towards him getting lynched anyways and I am just making myself look like a fool.
I am acting exactly like a townie who does not KNOW superbia is mafia and makes sure he knows he can still salvage this if he really tries to. Which is something every townie should do because mislynching an uncced medic in an open setup is mighty retarded.
There is 0 scum motivation and a lot of town motivation for what I have done.
Meh. Will have to reread this later with a clear head because the more you arguee this is proving you are town when it's clearly NAI at best and probably scum indicative actually, the more I want to lynch you.
You will not lynch me bro but don't let me stop you from trying. This whole retarded argumentation makes it way more likely for YOU to be mafia. Logical player my ass. You didn't refute anything I brought up.
You are the one not responding directly to what I'm saying. Your read on Superbia is overexplained and you repeated why you are scumreading him and why doc should not claim. You also left him outs to tryhard, he can't be saved if doc cc but he can make the doc cc. Now you're saying all of this actually makes you town. Bullshit. This is not a strong scum indicator, I'm not calling you slam dunk scum, yet you're reacting and OMGUSing like you are about to get lynched.
AH, so the backpedaling begins.
My read is not overexplained. I talked to people who said different things explaining why my way to proceed is better. I left him outs to tryhard because THAT IS WHAT EVERY TOWNIE SHOULD BE DOING - how can you even argue something this retarded? This is never a "scum indicator". You are basing everything around him being confirmed mafia when he just isn't - which is suspicious btw. I am OMGUSING because you are normally one of the smarter people here but what you are saying is utter bullshit over and over again. I know I am not getting lynched this game.
On April 19 2016 14:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote: We're unanimously lynching the claimed doctor. This is probably the worst play that I've ever seen but what can we do?
You could push someone else instead of keeping it up if you really believe this. What a dumb post.
I've repeatedly said we should get a cc and I've been shot down every single time.
On April 20 2016 00:34 justanothertownie wrote: Like, if you really think as mafia I would do this shit while superbia is just giving up then you are way more stupid than I thought. Not to mention my day1 interactions with him (about Palmar for example) which are basically never mafia/mafia in a million years. If I am mafia with superbia there would have been 0 team coordination happening all game. That is never the case if I am mafia (unless I am with SL maybe).
This is something I need to check. Will reread stuff once it's confirmed Superbia is scum.
You need to check a lot of things.
When there is an unanimous wagon lynching mafia you never ever ever ever base your reads on how people treated said mafia on that day. This is how you lost to shapelog in storm. People doubting the guy being mafia or giving him outs in a situation like that are almost never his buddies because they know he is going down and try to get their sweet buscred.
It is highly irritating that I have to explain something easy like this to you.
Bro if you're town I undersatnd you can be bias. But don't call yourself town over something that obv does not make you town.
I will call myself town for whatever the fuck I please. My point is less that it makes me town and more that it makes you either really stupid or mafia to think it makes me scum.
On April 19 2016 14:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote: We're unanimously lynching the claimed doctor. This is probably the worst play that I've ever seen but what can we do?
You could push someone else instead of keeping it up if you really believe this. What a dumb post.
I've repeatedly said we should get a cc and I've been shot down every single time.
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