A normal game just for JAT <3 - Page 50

On April 19 2016 00:20 Superbia wrote:
Just got home from work. I'm (probably) the doctor.

On April 19 2016 01:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Yeah, I was gonna say something about that.
Vig claiming here is bad simply because there's no point - what does town get out of that aside from one confirmed townie that's practically guaranteed to get shot?

On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:

As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch.

On April 19 2016 02:16 Tumblewood wrote:
It's mid-D2 and I have like 2 townreads what is this
rsoul why is ows scum

On April 19 2016 02:36 rsoultin wrote:


how about one confirmed townie? like are you serious?

On April 19 2016 02:38 rsoultin wrote:


mostly cause he's being awful (and not low content kinda normalish ows awful but legit logic awful, and i have a better impression of him than that) maybe mixed with a little paranoia from the last time i played with him when he was scum and i townread him for shit reasons all the way to lylo

On April 19 2016 02:20 Tumblewood wrote:
gumshoe town if superbia scum
that WoT is counterproductive as scum because it indirectly shuts down a need for a CC

On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do

On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.

The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.

This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.

On April 19 2016 02:42 rsoultin wrote:
there is never any reason for vig not to claim after a vig shot unless he has more than one shot

like never

never ever

it is always the best play

always

do you understand what always means? having a confirmed town is never bad for town! and maybe you'll even get lucky and mafia will be dumb enough to fake claim/cc

On April 19 2016 02:40 rsoultin wrote:


dude if you actually believe this about gumshoe but still are calling me scum i don't even know what to say

please don't be town here please don't be town please don't be town

i really don't want to call someone who is actually town stupid cause tbf when rayn does it to me it feels awful but this is just so terribly stupid >< like you've tunneled me blindly all game and you don't have the excuse of being a silly palmar to hide behind

On April 19 2016 02:34 Tumblewood wrote:
Braglist
super - no explanation needed
rsoul - see filter, pages 1-3
jat - picking the low-hanging fruit

yw town

On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:

Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him.
BUT

This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort.

Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else.
But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment.

And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming.

On April 19 2016 02:43 Tumblewood wrote:

but why that post about gumshoe to support this claim

I also kinda feel the same way about you; if I tunnel and you're scum it's justice, if I tunnel and you're town I'm an ass

On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:


i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save

i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims

super/tw/ows <- braglist

super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves

lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/

On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:


we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do

like, if the real doc (assuming he's not super) had actually successfully made a save last night and we could have three confirmed towns (vig claim + doc + save) and one confirmed mafia (super) then it would be worth claiming, but i honestly don't think the doc should cc here. i mean if he decides to i get it cause confirmed mafia is still good but i at least am lynching super anyway. if most of the rest of the town is, we don't need to give mafia that info

On April 19 2016 02:44 rsoultin wrote:


you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_-

play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you
that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him

-facedesks-

On April 19 2016 02:35 Tumblewood wrote:
oh see
even as I was typing this
attacking superbia's shitty claim
there is no easier thing to object to

Wtf where is this tumble vote from shaoe coming from?