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JustAnotherScummer
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Superbia
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Superbia
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JustAnotherScummer
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On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims. While i am waiting, Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc. Idk the mechs. of FF's docs. | ||
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gumshoe
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The problem super has already been stated, if your doc, we can never know, therefore yah gotta die / : Whats more, scums shot on plamer makes no sense if they bilieve you at all. Ethier 1: they think your lying, in which case why bolster a townies position by killing the person that townie said theyd shoot. Or 2: They think your vig, in which case why shoot the same target as you. 3: they think your doc, in which case why would they not just rb ect. It doesnt make sense unless your scum setting yourself up to contest the vig claim. I also dont really like the way you've been testing the waters, going from Meh. I'm VT too. =/ Should've lynched TW.. to this If I'm the vigi I'm shooting Palmar. (which was just awful by the way)If I'm the doctor I'm saving Gumshoe. Yolo. to this Just got home from work. I'm (probably) the doctor. it really feels like your just testing the waters constantly to figure out what lie will be the most palatable for town. sooooo yeah... you kinda have to die / : sorry. and your not even worth an objection vid / : | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote: While i am waiting, Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc. Idk the mechs. of FF's docs. But he's an uncc'd doctor. | ||
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rsoultin
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On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims. we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do like, if the real doc (assuming he's not super) had actually successfully made a save last night and we could have three confirmed towns (vig claim + doc + save) and one confirmed mafia (super) then it would be worth claiming, but i honestly don't think the doc should cc here. i mean if he decides to i get it cause confirmed mafia is still good but i at least am lynching super anyway. if most of the rest of the town is, we don't need to give mafia that info | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote: we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do like, if the real doc (assuming he's not super) had actually successfully made a save last night and we could have three confirmed towns (vig claim + doc + save) and one confirmed mafia (super) then it would be worth claiming, but i honestly don't think the doc should cc here. i mean if he decides to i get it cause confirmed mafia is still good but i at least am lynching super anyway. if most of the rest of the town is, we don't need to give mafia that info But he's the uncc'd doctor. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town. This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote: we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do like, if the real doc (assuming he's not super) had actually successfully made a save last night and we could have three confirmed towns (vig claim + doc + save) and one confirmed mafia (super) then it would be worth claiming, but i honestly don't think the doc should cc here. i mean if he decides to i get it cause confirmed mafia is still good but i at least am lynching super anyway. if most of the rest of the town is, we don't need to give mafia that info yeah I agree with this sentiment / : if the doc feels they need to claim here that would be kinda nice in that it would make things clear. But if they choose not to we still gotta lynch super as the scum shot onto palmer makes no sense unless he is scum and was intending to counter claim vig with that night kill. it sucks if super actually is doc but if thats the case he can never prove it, so yeah, hes gotta die now. | ||
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rsoultin
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On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game. The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town. This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims super/tw/ows <- braglist  super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/ | ||
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gumshoe
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On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote: i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims super/tw/ows <- braglist super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/ well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P | ||
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rsoultin
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On April 19 2016 01:14 gumshoe wrote: well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^ super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod | ||
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rsoultin
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On April 19 2016 01:23 rsoultin wrote: lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^ super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod oh poo i'm probably wrong :/ ows was on super so that makes it less likely. oh well. i'm way ahead of myself as it is lol | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On April 19 2016 01:25 rsoultin wrote: oh poo i'm probably wrong :/ ows was on super so that makes it less likely. oh well. i'm way ahead of myself as it is lol Yeah, I was gonna say something about that. Vig claiming here is bad simply because there's no point - what does town get out of that aside from one confirmed townie that's practically guaranteed to get shot? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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justanothertownie
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On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game. The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town. This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch. | ||
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Tumblewood
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rsoul why is ows scum | ||
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Tumblewood
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that WoT is counterproductive as scum because it indirectly shuts down a need for a CC | ||
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