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On April 19 2016 00:20 Superbia wrote: Just got home from work. I'm (probably) the doctor. Like wtf is this? Noone in his position would think that being vague like that is in any way warranted or useful right now.
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Braglist super - no explanation needed rsoul - see filter, pages 1-3 jat - picking the low-hanging fruit
yw town
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oh see even as I was typing this attacking superbia's shitty claim there is no easier thing to object to
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On April 19 2016 01:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 01:25 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 01:23 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 01:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims super/tw/ows <- braglist super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/ well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^ super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod oh poo i'm probably wrong :/ ows was on super so that makes it less likely. oh well. i'm way ahead of myself as it is lol Yeah, I was gonna say something about that. Vig claiming here is bad simply because there's no point - what does town get out of that aside from one confirmed townie that's practically guaranteed to get shot?
how about one confirmed townie? like are you serious?
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On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch.
:/
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On April 19 2016 02:16 Tumblewood wrote: It's mid-D2 and I have like 2 townreads what is this rsoul why is ows scum
mostly cause he's being awful (and not low content kinda normalish ows awful but legit logic awful, and i have a better impression of him than that) maybe mixed with a little paranoia from the last time i played with him when he was scum and i townread him for shit reasons all the way to lylo
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On April 19 2016 02:36 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 01:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 19 2016 01:25 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 01:23 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 01:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims super/tw/ows <- braglist super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/ well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^ super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod oh poo i'm probably wrong :/ ows was on super so that makes it less likely. oh well. i'm way ahead of myself as it is lol Yeah, I was gonna say something about that. Vig claiming here is bad simply because there's no point - what does town get out of that aside from one confirmed townie that's practically guaranteed to get shot? how about one confirmed townie? like are you serious?
Yep!
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On April 19 2016 02:38 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 02:16 Tumblewood wrote: It's mid-D2 and I have like 2 townreads what is this rsoul why is ows scum mostly cause he's being awful (and not low content kinda normalish ows awful but legit logic awful, and i have a better impression of him than that) maybe mixed with a little paranoia from the last time i played with him when he was scum and i townread him for shit reasons all the way to lylo
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On April 19 2016 02:20 Tumblewood wrote: gumshoe town if superbia scum that WoT is counterproductive as scum because it indirectly shuts down a need for a CC
dude if you actually believe this about gumshoe but still are calling me scum i don't even know what to say
please don't be town here please don't be town please don't be town
i really don't want to call someone who is actually town stupid cause tbf when rayn does it to me it feels awful but this is just so terribly stupid >< like you've tunneled me blindly all game and you don't have the excuse of being a silly palmar to hide behind
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OWS what is the point of these emoticons "oh no he felt angry face he must be town"
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there is never any reason for vig not to claim after a vig shot unless he has more than one shot
like never
never ever
it is always the best play
always
do you understand what always means? having a confirmed town is never bad for town! and maybe you'll even get lucky and mafia will be dumb enough to fake claim/cc
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On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote: we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT
On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort.
Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment.
And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming.
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On April 19 2016 02:42 rsoultin wrote:there is never any reason for vig not to claim after a vig shot unless he has more than one shot like never never ever it is always the best play always do you understand what always means? having a confirmed town is never bad for town! and maybe you'll even get lucky and mafia will be dumb enough to fake claim/cc You are wrong. He can claim tomorrow. What is the point of claiming today? There is none.
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On April 19 2016 02:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 02:20 Tumblewood wrote: gumshoe town if superbia scum that WoT is counterproductive as scum because it indirectly shuts down a need for a CC dude if you actually believe this about gumshoe but still are calling me scum i don't even know what to say please don't be town here please don't be town please don't be town i really don't want to call someone who is actually town stupid cause tbf when rayn does it to me it feels awful but this is just so terribly stupid >< like you've tunneled me blindly all game and you don't have the excuse of being a silly palmar to hide behind but why that post about gumshoe to support this claim
I also kinda feel the same way about you; if I tunnel and you're scum it's justice, if I tunnel and you're town I'm an ass
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On April 19 2016 02:34 Tumblewood wrote: Braglist super - no explanation needed rsoul - see filter, pages 1-3 jat - picking the low-hanging fruit
yw town Yo, tumbleman. What happened to your pretty strong townread on me? Seems like a pretty odd switch to me.
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On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote: we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming.
you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_-
play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him
-facedesks-
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On April 19 2016 02:43 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 02:40 rsoultin wrote:On April 19 2016 02:20 Tumblewood wrote: gumshoe town if superbia scum that WoT is counterproductive as scum because it indirectly shuts down a need for a CC dude if you actually believe this about gumshoe but still are calling me scum i don't even know what to say please don't be town here please don't be town please don't be town i really don't want to call someone who is actually town stupid cause tbf when rayn does it to me it feels awful but this is just so terribly stupid >< like you've tunneled me blindly all game and you don't have the excuse of being a silly palmar to hide behind but why that post about gumshoe to support this claim I also kinda feel the same way about you; if I tunnel and you're scum it's justice, if I tunnel and you're town I'm an ass
lol this is hilariously bad
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On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims super/tw/ows <- braglist super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/
On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims. we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do like, if the real doc (assuming he's not super) had actually successfully made a save last night and we could have three confirmed towns (vig claim + doc + save) and one confirmed mafia (super) then it would be worth claiming, but i honestly don't think the doc should cc here. i mean if he decides to i get it cause confirmed mafia is still good but i at least am lynching super anyway. if most of the rest of the town is, we don't need to give mafia that info
this makes me scum
this makes gumshoe town
lol tw ><
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On April 19 2016 02:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote: we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_- play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him -facedesks- No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus.
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On April 19 2016 02:35 Tumblewood wrote: oh see even as I was typing this attacking superbia's shitty claim there is no easier thing to object to
kk listen, I know you had a rough time day 1, everyone probs looks like your enemy, but jats not scum / : dude tried to protect you
Wtf where is this tumble vote from shaoe coming from?
and was pushing super before that before it was even that cool.
the games a bit vague, but there are some clear things here and there, especially from your point of view.
You are in the unique position of knowing for sure that your town (I only somewhat know for sure that your town) so use that vantage to actually find out who was shitty during yesterdays lynch and also look at the night kill correlation with supers vig shot claim while your at it. See if you can draw anyone else into that web.
I believe in you : D
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