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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 08:22 GMT
#2512
On April 25 2016 14:14 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 14:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 25 2016 14:11 Onegu wrote:
I dont see a team without tumble on it. I dont think SL/Rels is a team. And I think I am still fine sheeping rsoultin here.

##Vote: Tumblewood


Go on.



Go on what? You are confirmed town, Jat is confirmed to me and I will never vote him, I am town.

That leaves SL, Rels, Tumble.

I dont think SL and Rels are a team that busses each other yesterday as that serves no purpose for mafia when if they were a team pushing me and a tumble would be much more likely than bussing so I really dont see them as a mafia team.

You're using a lot of excuses to mechanically play and not push real stuff. Like here, you're on the Tumble wagon, but for no reason that makes him scum. That screams "bus" TBH.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 08:25 GMT
#2513
Onegu if you're town you are the most useless player ever. And the inevitable loss is on you.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 08:26 GMT
#2514
Alright I'm caught up, gonna reread the game during my lunch break.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 10:19 GMT
#2515
On April 15 2016 17:42 Palmar wrote:
I am happy with my vote. Rsoultin has 81% chance of flipping mafia here.

Forgot at which point Palmar was useless D1. Maybe Superbia and his team really thought they had a chance at getting him mislynched D1.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 10:20 GMT
#2516
On April 15 2016 19:06 Rels wrote:
Onegu being happy might indicate scum because of meta.

On April 15 2016 19:15 sicklucker wrote:
Ya I saw onegu smiling irl when I voted him

Pro reads right there.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 10:25 GMT
#2517
On April 16 2016 00:21 Palmar wrote:
I'm on page 10 but jat is town and rsoultin is mafia and I think we should murder her.

On April 16 2016 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Not even terribly opposed to that tbh.

Would even policy lynch her for the continued spanish thing.

SL talked about a "OK to lynch rsoul" thing linking Superbia, Onegu & Tumble a few pages back. I'm reading the game and I didn't see any of it at the moment, so it must have happened after these two posts from Palmar and JAT. It's very possible the scumteam saw Palmar & JAT being kinda OK with a rsoul lynch and trying to run with it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 10:26 GMT
#2518
On April 25 2016 08:14 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 21:29 Superbia wrote:
rso is meh.


now we have all 3 of super tumble and onegu pushing rstoul. hum

Talking about that post. I'll see if that checks out or not.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 10:29 GMT
#2519
On April 16 2016 00:31 Palmar wrote:
your mom is bad. the end

The fact that this guy was killed N1 over everyone else is beyond me. The medic dodge was strong
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 10:32 GMT
#2520
On April 16 2016 08:35 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 17:42 Palmar wrote:
I am happy with my vote. Rsoultin has 81% chance of flipping mafia here.


like wut this is after 3 posts. Maybe palmar just saw 3 town votes and decided to make up reasons to scum read her later lol

SL actually participated in this "Palmar might be a good lynch for something completely NAI" madness
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 10:33 GMT
#2521
On April 16 2016 14:02 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 12:48 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2016 12:40 sicklucker wrote:
I dont lynch new players day one its bad etiquette


lynching superbia so that's not a problem ^^ unless you have an argument for onegu that isn't just policy? i think this is an okay lynch

at the very least we need to actually start discussing one cause we can't keep pretending that deadline will never come if we just ignore the game -_-


can we lynch them both? oh wait we can its called a vigalanty

SL wanting to lynch both Superbia & Onegu is pretty unlikely though. So unless Onegu is not scum, SL is unlikely scum. Or he hardbused from the beginning.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 10:38 GMT
#2522
Oh yeah this is the first strong scum indicator for Tumble.
On April 16 2016 13:38 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm skeptical on your Superbia read, rsoul.

On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap.

On April 16 2016 14:11 Tumblewood wrote:
where I'm at right now:

null
most people

don't want to lynch
gumshoe because innocent town
rels because actually trying
ows because actually trying
palmar because in Devil I lynched him day 1 and I never got to play with him

could lynch today
rsoul because all her answers are kind of meh
superbia because AFK; prefer vig shot

The guy is scumreading Superbia the most. BUT:
1 - he didn't vote him EOD1 to save himself
2 - he actually SCUMREAD rsoultin and attacked her for her read on Superbia, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE SAME READ, IE Superbia scum for not being active
Distancing with your partner without commiting to a vote and defending him at the same time right there.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 10:41 GMT
#2523
On April 16 2016 21:26 Superbia wrote:
Onegu prob town based on one sample.

SL is right that this read makes no sense if Onegu is town. Onegu is a townie that you want mislynched, not pocketed. Partner indicator right there.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 10:48 GMT
#2524
On April 25 2016 19:25 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 00:21 Palmar wrote:
I'm on page 10 but jat is town and rsoultin is mafia and I think we should murder her.

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Not even terribly opposed to that tbh.

Would even policy lynch her for the continued spanish thing.

SL talked about a "OK to lynch rsoul" thing linking Superbia, Onegu & Tumble a few pages back. I'm reading the game and I didn't see any of it at the moment, so it must have happened after these two posts from Palmar and JAT. It's very possible the scumteam saw Palmar & JAT being kinda OK with a rsoul lynch and trying to run with it.

Onegu never actually scumread rsoul for real. It was always a joke. He never actually gave a serious read on rsoul I think, which is pretty suspicious actually. He's always joking with her, so I suppose it means he townreads her all game, when he is apparently always wary of her when he's town.
On the other hand, Tumble & Superbia both scumread rsoul at some point D1, and both after Palmar screaming "rsoul scum" and JAT saying "I'm kinda OK with her lynch".
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 10:57 GMT
#2525
LOL JAT it was you that said "Tumble slipped around midday and was townie after that" right ? It was actually less than 2 hours before deadline.
rsoul got Tumble to slip about a post that didn't exist:
On April 17 2016 05:12 rsoultin wrote:
no shut up guys seriously shut up lolol ><

tumble just said he wanted to force me to take a stance on someone based on a post i HADN'T EVEN POSTED YET

I also pressured him to see if he was talking about another post or if he really slipped:
On April 17 2016 05:31 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 05:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 05:23 Rels wrote:
On April 17 2016 05:07 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 04:43 rsoultin wrote:
yay town circle is here! \o/ even if i'm not really feeling a superbia lynch that much anymore lol ><

pues, actually, tumble, why did you want me to commit on fazer? like why, specifically, did you want me to commit on an obviously nai post from a brand new player?

I didn't think you actually thought that was alignment indicative, so your "OK to lynch him" felt off. Cleared it up though.

So the post in bold doesn't actually exist. So Tumble is claiming a reason that cannot be true. It's impossible for a townie to make up a reason for what he has done things. So he's scum.
Unless the post in bold actually exist.
Tumble I'm waiting for the source too.

It is actually not impossible at all. The question is how likely it is. But let's see his defense.

It's true that it is not impossible, fucking greymist did it once. But it is extremely unlikely. Townie CAN forget the reason they make a post, creating a false one is super unlikely though. Especially here, he clearly refers to a particular post that apparently doesn't exist.
But yeah maybe he refers to something else and this is not happening actually.

He admited the post didn't exist, and by extension that the reason he gave to explain his posting was made up:
On April 17 2016 05:39 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 05:37 Tumblewood wrote:
ok i am messing up in every way imaginable this game
i blame it on phoneposting and not rereading
and on trying to talk about things that happened a day ago that i don't really remember

Not believable.
##Vote Tumblewood

It was 1h30 before deadline. So all of you saying "Rels' vote was not justified" or "Rels' vote was midday, Tumble was townie after that", read before posting BS.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 11:04 GMT
#2526
On April 17 2016 07:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe the vig should shoot SL instead. Wouldn't be opposed to this at all.

Why did you want the vig to shoot SL instead of the useless Onegu / Fazers, like you said previously ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 11:05 GMT
#2527
On April 17 2016 21:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 12:57 rsoultin wrote:
reminder to self: verify the sl post

palmar's EoD actually looks pretty decent to me after a review of his filter

On April 17 2016 07:14 Fazers wrote:
On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/

Should've lynched TW..

Vig shoot this guy.

SECONDED.


^ this from the guy who doesn't know what to do yada yada is just meh. looks overdone to me tbh. fazers, we don't get hints. some sites might. we don't. if i'm around long enough + Show Spoiler +
and i urge those of you still in the game to do so if i'm not
i will push for your lynch before mylo/lylo if you continue to refuse to participate

it's not about being right. i've said this several times to you. it's about giving us something to read you by. i'd like your best guesses at alignments and why before the night is over

bueno...that's it for tonight i think. reads post later after some more digging

Yeah, the Fazer guy needs to put out content asap. He has his flip, now it is time to do work. Maybe he should die in the night otherwise. Onegu is also still a good shot though.
Depending on some things shape may be scum and
and I give super a chance of at least 50 % to be mafia aswell.

NVM you actually called for Fazer / Onegu after that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 11:06 GMT
#2528
On April 17 2016 23:31 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 21:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 17 2016 21:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:57 rsoultin wrote:
reminder to self: verify the sl post

palmar's EoD actually looks pretty decent to me after a review of his filter

On April 17 2016 07:14 Fazers wrote:
On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/

Should've lynched TW..

Vig shoot this guy.

SECONDED.


^ this from the guy who doesn't know what to do yada yada is just meh. looks overdone to me tbh. fazers, we don't get hints. some sites might. we don't. if i'm around long enough + Show Spoiler +
and i urge those of you still in the game to do so if i'm not
i will push for your lynch before mylo/lylo if you continue to refuse to participate

it's not about being right. i've said this several times to you. it's about giving us something to read you by. i'd like your best guesses at alignments and why before the night is over

bueno...that's it for tonight i think. reads post later after some more digging

Yeah, the Fazer guy needs to put out content asap. He has his flip, now it is time to do work. Maybe he should die in the night otherwise. Onegu is also still a good shot though.
Depending on some things shape may be scum and
and I give super a chance of at least 50 % to be mafia aswell.


I pretty much agree with all of this.

Me too. Onegu or Fazerz needs to die. Superbia's alignment will be proven one way or another before the end of the game.
Don't have any time today so hopefully I'm still alive tomorrow

I knew I also called for these shots.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 11:08 GMT
#2529
On April 18 2016 03:28 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/

Should've lynched TW..



You all jumped on him for this post.


Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 07:07 Superbia wrote:
On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/

Should've lynched TW..

Vig shoot this guy.


You're honestly the dumbest town player ever.



But this is a genuine scumslip. He tries to correct himself in the next post when he realized what he did but yeah scumslip.

This is never a scumslip. The only way it is a scumslip is if Onegu already knew Superbia was scum and used this to be right without finding arguments that makes Superbia actually scum. Like he's doing with Tumble right now BTW, scumreading Tumble because "SL & Rels are not together" instead of because "Tumble is scum for X Y and Z".
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 11:17 GMT
#2530
On April 18 2016 05:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:23 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky.


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.
Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time.


why?

when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point
when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched


okay, so honestly, you're just really confusing me here. like you're not making sense and my first instinct is that should be scum but i think even scum would make more sense here, so i must just not be understanding @.@

it's as simple as...the wagons are between super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote super

then

the wagons are between gb, super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote one of them

why would your scumread flipping town be worse than your null read flipping town?

nononono
when super was the counterwagon it wasn't "if i want to live i need to vote super", it was "if i don't vote super i die d1 if i vote super i die d2"
then everyone left super for gb and people simultaneously said that i was town, so it became "if i don't vote gb i die d1 if i vote gb i don't die"
like i got so entrenched in thinking i was going to die that i didn't even see superbia as a survival wagon, just a delay death wagon


This doesn't make any sense. You scumread Superbia and was null on GB. But you didn't vote Superbia to save yourself because "you would die D2 anyway if Superbia was lynched", but you voted GB to save yourself because "you wouldn't die D2 automatically if GB was lynched".
I cannot even comprehend what you are trying to say. This logic is so twisted.
I'm calling BS on this.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 11:19 GMT
#2531
On April 18 2016 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:
where did the gb read come from though
there was no scumread at all until 5 minutes before deadline

Tumble once again attacking rsoultin, this time for something completely false since rsoul periodically talked about GB during the whole D1. It's not like he couldn't check that fact, this is during N1, he has all the time he wants to fact check his accusation.
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