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On April 23 2016 11:48 Tumblewood wrote:
trends in onegu's posting:
- sparse
- pretty poorly reasoned
- ignores half the game
- also had that one scumslip post
- fluff
- posted by onegu
really only two reasons to think he's town and one of them is iffy meta. 20% town
btw ows this is why I voted onegu, as well as what gumshoe said about "anyone can only be scum with onegu" so the onegu case is actually pretty solid
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On April 25 2016 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 12:36 Tumblewood wrote:On April 23 2016 11:48 Tumblewood wrote:
trends in onegu's posting:
- sparse
- pretty poorly reasoned
- ignores half the game
- also had that one scumslip post
- fluff
- posted by onegu
really only two reasons to think he's town and one of them is iffy meta. 20% town btw ows this is why I voted onegu, as well as what gumshoe said about "anyone can only be scum with onegu" so the onegu case is actually pretty solid You literally just said it was because he voted the wrong guy and then fixed his vote. Now it's this? Wth?
no. sl made a mistake and I pointed it out, and I said, "if that makes him scummy, it wouldn't be because changed his mind immediately, it would be because he slipped". basically I meant that onegu might be the only player on TL who could manage to validate a terrible guide I once found, but that's not why I'm scumreading him.
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I was clearly already scumreading onegu at the time that I said that. ows, lrn 2 read
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On April 25 2016 17:20 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 12:33 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 12:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 25 2016 12:21 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 12:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 25 2016 11:58 Tumblewood wrote:
I think a scumteam without Onegu can't exist because otherwise whoever is scum would just coast through this. It's not like Rels or JAT or SL would get punished for being AFK, because Onegu is even more AFK.
Still think SL is town, but the shouting match with Rels has me a little worried. I don't want to go into the final four with my townread on SL requiring me to overlook his flaws. In a TvS shouting match, town doesn't always come out of it looking as solid as before... agh still makes me uneasy though. What are you even saying here? I am saying two things here: - A scum team doesn't exist without Onegu. - I still think SL is town, but the recent shouting match between him and Rels makes me less comfortable about it. So who's your second scum and why? Rels, on the charges of - having a strong scumread on me but only pushing me when it's most useful for scum (when my wagon is tied with Super's and when my wagon is the counter to Shape's) - not being as townie as SL or JAT This doesn't make any sense. 1 - How is it useful for scum to push your mislynch when your wagon is the counter to Shape ? 2 - So I pushed you D1 and D3. The only time I didn't push you was D2 when there was claim stuff to take care of. When should I have been pushing you as town ? 3 - The question was "Why is Rels scum", you can't just answer "for not being townie". Why am I not townie ?
1. Because my will at deadline basically said, you will lynch Shape then Onegu after I die. Shape would have almost certainly died the next day and mafia would win.
2. You didn't push me either until just before deadline on those two days.
3. Lrn 2 read, I said that SL and JAT are wayyy townier than you.
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I'm trying to post between classes here
This next hour is the longest time I'll have until after deadline
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On April 26 2016 03:03 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 03:02 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm trying to post between classes here
This next hour is the longest time I'll have until after deadline This is pretty opportunistic, your last post is 3 hours ago and it's right after two people have discussed maybe switching to you.
This is so BS
I hate when people SR me for being "opportunistic" because that's a stupid reason
I'm actually posting between classes and you don't understand my schedule
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On April 26 2016 03:00 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 02:59 Rels wrote:On April 26 2016 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
I love how invested tumble is in this LYLO though. Well either his partner is dying or a mislynch is happening. In the first case he does not have the towncred to change the lynch, in the other he doesn't need to do anything. Thank you for this very helpful and deep analysis. If tumble is mafia he is probably with SL btw.
Why am I with SL? Because he's defending me?
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On April 26 2016 03:07 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 03:05 Tumblewood wrote:On April 26 2016 03:03 Rels wrote:On April 26 2016 03:02 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm trying to post between classes here
This next hour is the longest time I'll have until after deadline This is pretty opportunistic, your last post is 3 hours ago and it's right after two people have discussed maybe switching to you. This is so BS I hate when people SR me for being "opportunistic" because that's a stupid reason I'm actually posting between classes and you don't understand my schedule There is nothing BS here, these are facts.
The facts are right, the conclusions are wrong.
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On April 26 2016 03:09 Rels wrote:
You posted once 3 hours ago to attack a post of mine. Then 3 hours later when people are talking about lynching you you come back.
If you're town it's bad timing. If you're scum it makes sense.
There are two reasonable possibilities, one as town and one as scum, therefore it was scummy?
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On April 26 2016 03:12 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:On April 26 2016 03:09 Rels wrote:
You posted once 3 hours ago to attack a post of mine. Then 3 hours later when people are talking about lynching you you come back.
If you're town it's bad timing. If you're scum it makes sense. There are two reasonable possibilities, one as town and one as scum, therefore it was scummy? "bad timing" is not a reasonnable possility, it's a coincidence. I admit it's not a hard proof but it's a small scum indicator because there is a scum motivation to do it while as town it would just be a coincidence.
Well then you're scum for pushing me because as town you just coincidentally think I'm scum and as scum it wins you the game
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On April 26 2016 03:20 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 03:19 justanothertownie wrote:
And no, mafia never "let's one guy make the kill" each night. They make the kill that makes the most sense overall for whatever reason. Of course the "each chose a kill" was a silly thought, my point is that each kill hard scumread one of Superbia, Onegu & Tumble.
Everyone scumread one of Superbia, Onegu, and me.
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On April 26 2016 03:27 Rels wrote:
Tumble do you even have something to say ? What do you think of Onegu's recent posting ? What do you think of my response to you 3 hours ago where I said you were lying ?
I think Onegu is scum trying to take advantage of my inactivity to escape a lynch.
I don't have that response handy so I'll answer it once I find it
Oh and here's something to say Onegu and Rels are still scum (but for real what is the point of those questions)
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On April 25 2016 23:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 23:39 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 17:20 Rels wrote:On April 25 2016 12:33 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 12:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 25 2016 12:21 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 12:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 25 2016 11:58 Tumblewood wrote:
I think a scumteam without Onegu can't exist because otherwise whoever is scum would just coast through this. It's not like Rels or JAT or SL would get punished for being AFK, because Onegu is even more AFK.
Still think SL is town, but the shouting match with Rels has me a little worried. I don't want to go into the final four with my townread on SL requiring me to overlook his flaws. In a TvS shouting match, town doesn't always come out of it looking as solid as before... agh still makes me uneasy though. What are you even saying here? I am saying two things here: - A scum team doesn't exist without Onegu. - I still think SL is town, but the recent shouting match between him and Rels makes me less comfortable about it. So who's your second scum and why? Rels, on the charges of - having a strong scumread on me but only pushing me when it's most useful for scum (when my wagon is tied with Super's and when my wagon is the counter to Shape's) - not being as townie as SL or JAT This doesn't make any sense. 1 - How is it useful for scum to push your mislynch when your wagon is the counter to Shape ? 2 - So I pushed you D1 and D3. The only time I didn't push you was D2 when there was claim stuff to take care of. When should I have been pushing you as town ? 3 - The question was "Why is Rels scum", you can't just answer "for not being townie". Why am I not townie ? 1. Because my will at deadline basically said, you will lynch Shape then Onegu after I die. Shape would have almost certainly died the next day and mafia would win. 2. You didn't push me either until just before deadline on those two days. 3. Lrn 2 read, I said that SL and JAT are wayyy townier than you. 1. So once again, how is this scum indicative instead of townie pushing for the right lynch ? You say I am scum that pushed for your mislynch all game, if you got lynched D3 and you flipped town I would be in a bad spot. 2. This is a lie. I wasn't even around during EOD3, I was on a train with no mean to read the thread. My first big post on you D3 was before midday to prove GB was the second wagon, and the real one was 9 hours before deadline: Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 22:04 Rels wrote:On April 22 2016 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
tumble shape for the concede That is what it looks like. I finished rereading Tumble's filter and he's super likely scum: - he made up a reason to explain a post he made. Townie always has a reason to post something. They can forget it, but what they wo'nt do is to make up an entirely fake one. Scum cannot disclose the real reasons they are making post ("I want ot be townread", "I want this scummy looking guy to be lynched") so they have to make them up though. - he has exactly 0 in-depth read. He scumread rsoul D1 and D2 and came up with a lot of reasons to scumread her. I summed them up EOD1 but he continued D2: he attacked her on her read of GB for example, which is pretty ridiculous. His Shape read is super strange too, he went from "town" to "#1 scum" with almost no explanation. Could be because JAS is his partner and he wants to be right but no push him very hard. - he didn't vote Superbia, the scum RB, to save his life, when he was scumreading him; but he voted GB, who was null "50/50" in his last EOD1. - rsoul died and he was her #1 scumread - his activity has died down, seems like scum giving up when he should be fighting as town especially since his #1 scumread is getting lynched right now Going to Shape now, then Onegu. 3. Alright it is POE then. Can't arguee against that.
1. You wouldn't be in a bad spot because you'd be in 4v2 LyLo with Shape (who I had just said to kill right after me)
2. I concede this point
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On April 26 2016 03:33 justanothertownie wrote:Tumble filter dive 2.0: This has been discussed to death but it is really bad: Show nested quote +On April 16 2016 13:38 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm skeptical on your Superbia read, rsoul. Show nested quote +On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap. But it especially makes no sense considering what his reason to scumread Super is afterwards: Show nested quote +On April 16 2016 14:11 Tumblewood wrote:
where I'm at right now:
null
most people
don't want to lynch
gumshoe because innocent town
rels because actually trying
ows because actually trying
palmar because in Devil I lynched him day 1 and I never got to play with him
could lynch today
rsoul because all her answers are kind of meh
superbia because AFK; prefer vig shot "Saying super is mafia because of burnout is a huge conclusion leap""Super is mafia because afk" This doesn't work together very well. Also the "prefer vig shot" doesn't make any sense. Shapelog made a meta case on tumble somewhere which he requoted before he got lynched. That was pretty on point. Examples of what mafia tumble is more likely to post than town tumble are those things: Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote:
"Oh but Tumblewood you didn't say that last part earlier."
"Scum scum scum for changing his reasons on rsoul." Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 02:41 Tumblewood wrote:
OWS what is the point of these emoticons
"oh no he felt angry face he must be town" Show nested quote +On April 18 2016 06:00 Tumblewood wrote:
rsoultin why did you switch from "total scumlord tumblewood" to "eh i could shenanny gb"
ooh didn't see the reversal coming didya Eod1 this was what made me townread tumble: Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 05:39 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't really see a way to not die here, so i'm going to just let you all vote me as long as i get 80 minutes of you listening to me and not treating me like i'm scum I don't think it is impossible for him to do it as mafia though? That was part 1. Part 2 will follow soon.
I am a believer in shooting AFKs over lynching them. Attributing it to scum burnout is definitely a leap, but saying you want to get rid of someone because they're AFK isn't (especially since AFKs make great lynchbait)
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On April 26 2016 03:37 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 03:35 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 23:45 Rels wrote:On April 25 2016 23:39 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 17:20 Rels wrote:On April 25 2016 12:33 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 12:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 25 2016 12:21 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 12:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 25 2016 11:58 Tumblewood wrote:
I think a scumteam without Onegu can't exist because otherwise whoever is scum would just coast through this. It's not like Rels or JAT or SL would get punished for being AFK, because Onegu is even more AFK.
Still think SL is town, but the shouting match with Rels has me a little worried. I don't want to go into the final four with my townread on SL requiring me to overlook his flaws. In a TvS shouting match, town doesn't always come out of it looking as solid as before... agh still makes me uneasy though. What are you even saying here? I am saying two things here: - A scum team doesn't exist without Onegu. - I still think SL is town, but the recent shouting match between him and Rels makes me less comfortable about it. So who's your second scum and why? Rels, on the charges of - having a strong scumread on me but only pushing me when it's most useful for scum (when my wagon is tied with Super's and when my wagon is the counter to Shape's) - not being as townie as SL or JAT This doesn't make any sense. 1 - How is it useful for scum to push your mislynch when your wagon is the counter to Shape ? 2 - So I pushed you D1 and D3. The only time I didn't push you was D2 when there was claim stuff to take care of. When should I have been pushing you as town ? 3 - The question was "Why is Rels scum", you can't just answer "for not being townie". Why am I not townie ? 1. Because my will at deadline basically said, you will lynch Shape then Onegu after I die. Shape would have almost certainly died the next day and mafia would win. 2. You didn't push me either until just before deadline on those two days. 3. Lrn 2 read, I said that SL and JAT are wayyy townier than you. 1. So once again, how is this scum indicative instead of townie pushing for the right lynch ? You say I am scum that pushed for your mislynch all game, if you got lynched D3 and you flipped town I would be in a bad spot. 2. This is a lie. I wasn't even around during EOD3, I was on a train with no mean to read the thread. My first big post on you D3 was before midday to prove GB was the second wagon, and the real one was 9 hours before deadline: On April 22 2016 22:04 Rels wrote:On April 22 2016 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
tumble shape for the concede That is what it looks like. I finished rereading Tumble's filter and he's super likely scum: - he made up a reason to explain a post he made. Townie always has a reason to post something. They can forget it, but what they wo'nt do is to make up an entirely fake one. Scum cannot disclose the real reasons they are making post ("I want ot be townread", "I want this scummy looking guy to be lynched") so they have to make them up though. - he has exactly 0 in-depth read. He scumread rsoul D1 and D2 and came up with a lot of reasons to scumread her. I summed them up EOD1 but he continued D2: he attacked her on her read of GB for example, which is pretty ridiculous. His Shape read is super strange too, he went from "town" to "#1 scum" with almost no explanation. Could be because JAS is his partner and he wants to be right but no push him very hard. - he didn't vote Superbia, the scum RB, to save his life, when he was scumreading him; but he voted GB, who was null "50/50" in his last EOD1. - rsoul died and he was her #1 scumread - his activity has died down, seems like scum giving up when he should be fighting as town especially since his #1 scumread is getting lynched right now Going to Shape now, then Onegu. 3. Alright it is POE then. Can't arguee against that. 1. You wouldn't be in a bad spot because you'd be in 4v2 LyLo with Shape (who I had just said to kill right after me) 2. I concede this point 1 may be true but that doesn't make me scum. Just because I would be in a good position if I was scum doesn't indicate I'm scum. JAT is in a even better position if he is scum yet I don't think you're scumreading him.
JAT is town for other reasons that you aren't
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Out of time but will be back at about 45 minutes before deadline
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On April 26 2016 03:50 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 03:45 Tumblewood wrote:
Out of time but will be back at about 45 minutes before deadline Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 03:35 Rels wrote:On April 26 2016 03:33 Rels wrote:On April 26 2016 03:31 Tumblewood wrote:On April 26 2016 03:27 Rels wrote:
Tumble do you even have something to say ? What do you think of Onegu's recent posting ? What do you think of my response to you 3 hours ago where I said you were lying ? I think Onegu is scum trying to take advantage of my inactivity to escape a lynch. I don't have that response handy so I'll answer it once I find it Oh and here's something to say Onegu and Rels are still scum (but for real what is the point of those questions) The point is that I think you're scum, I think you entered the thread only because people were talking about you, and you have no idea what to say. Here is my post: On April 25 2016 23:45 Rels wrote:On April 25 2016 23:39 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 17:20 Rels wrote:On April 25 2016 12:33 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 12:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 25 2016 12:21 Tumblewood wrote:On April 25 2016 12:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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What are you even saying here? I am saying two things here: - A scum team doesn't exist without Onegu. - I still think SL is town, but the recent shouting match between him and Rels makes me less comfortable about it. So who's your second scum and why? Rels, on the charges of - having a strong scumread on me but only pushing me when it's most useful for scum (when my wagon is tied with Super's and when my wagon is the counter to Shape's) - not being as townie as SL or JAT This doesn't make any sense. 1 - How is it useful for scum to push your mislynch when your wagon is the counter to Shape ? 2 - So I pushed you D1 and D3. The only time I didn't push you was D2 when there was claim stuff to take care of. When should I have been pushing you as town ? 3 - The question was "Why is Rels scum", you can't just answer "for not being townie". Why am I not townie ? 1. Because my will at deadline basically said, you will lynch Shape then Onegu after I die. Shape would have almost certainly died the next day and mafia would win. 2. You didn't push me either until just before deadline on those two days. 3. Lrn 2 read, I said that SL and JAT are wayyy townier than you. 1. So once again, how is this scum indicative instead of townie pushing for the right lynch ? You say I am scum that pushed for your mislynch all game, if you got lynched D3 and you flipped town I would be in a bad spot. 2. This is a lie. I wasn't even around during EOD3, I was on a train with no mean to read the thread. My first big post on you D3 was before midday to prove GB was the second wagon, and the real one was 9 hours before deadline: On April 22 2016 22:04 Rels wrote:On April 22 2016 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
tumble shape for the concede That is what it looks like. I finished rereading Tumble's filter and he's super likely scum: - he made up a reason to explain a post he made. Townie always has a reason to post something. They can forget it, but what they wo'nt do is to make up an entirely fake one. Scum cannot disclose the real reasons they are making post ("I want ot be townread", "I want this scummy looking guy to be lynched") so they have to make them up though. - he has exactly 0 in-depth read. He scumread rsoul D1 and D2 and came up with a lot of reasons to scumread her. I summed them up EOD1 but he continued D2: he attacked her on her read of GB for example, which is pretty ridiculous. His Shape read is super strange too, he went from "town" to "#1 scum" with almost no explanation. Could be because JAS is his partner and he wants to be right but no push him very hard. - he didn't vote Superbia, the scum RB, to save his life, when he was scumreading him; but he voted GB, who was null "50/50" in his last EOD1. - rsoul died and he was her #1 scumread - his activity has died down, seems like scum giving up when he should be fighting as town especially since his #1 scumread is getting lynched right now Going to Shape now, then Onegu. 3. Alright it is POE then. Can't arguee against that. To expand, why did you post i n the thread when you're not even caught up ? Apparenrlty you didn't read this answer when it was posted 6 minutes after your post. Please answer this when you come back.
I was caught up but needed to review what it said before I responded
I also just caught up again now
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you guys are all acting like I'm not doing shit in lylo
that's because the decision for me is the easiest decision in the world
my sole duty today is to keep you guys from doing something stupid (aka votingme over onegu)
tomorrow was really easy too... well, until sl stopped taking responsibility for his vote
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On April 26 2016 05:06 sicklucker wrote:
Jat going for the win here makes no sense since he wins in final 3 anyway. SO ill make it easy for you and put your suspicions at ez. I will lynch tumble for you if you really want to. Just dont blame me if we lose to rels =[
hey jat i'll throw the game, but only if you want
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On April 26 2016 06:21 sicklucker wrote:
you know what fuck it lets win the game today. you guys are so fucking paranoid im scum here that you might even vote me over tumble . ##vote tumble I just want this game to end I dont want 3 more days of this shit
hey jat look i'm throwing the game are you proud of me
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