EPTNoir Mini Mafia: Chapter 4 - Page 56
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On March 17 2016 04:54 Rels wrote: So. I read the thread with my phone and Tumble is settled on shape and doesn't care about his yamato read apparently z unless I missed something. This is in line with my perception about how he played the minimum to survive all game. Will reread when I get home but I think he's the last scum I am just very sexy. ![[image loading]](https://1utp2p2y4c69808d03xlye6d-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/girl-look-at-that-body.gif) Actually it be pretty interesting to make a list of people who had negative actions with Kusmp (tumble for example) and compare them with positive. I prob. be in dead mans land to negative. | ||
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Tumble Dog. Where are thou answers? On March 16 2016 21:49 Shapelog wrote: I got to filter yammty anyways, but what i quoted this for. Did you ever look into, or got answers from: Because none of those points you brought up matches that. I look into these. Reason why i thought yammty was town was for his post about Rels & sus. on kush. Cuz dog I wantz them. | ||
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Read progression on my booty On March 08 2016 15:15 Tumblewood wrote: I feel like Shape's been kinda backed into a corner by kush, or at least he feels that way. How it went down: Kush flashed his badge at Shapelog. It read, "Private Investigator: Kush Mountains". "What do you know about the mafia?" he inquired. Shape didn't have much to say; he'd only been there twenty minutes, and he'd only seen three other people in his time. He thought of the most informative thing he had to say, which was It wasn't much, and they both knew it. Kush followed up with some leading questions. Of course, there was no other way for Shape to answer but in the affirmative. They both knew that anyone could be a killer, and there was no sense in thinking someone good-willed from just one clue. Basically, Shape made an observation on virtually the only (little) information he had, and kush drew the conclusion from it and coerced him into making his own conclusion, which was "that's not enough" and labeled backtracking. It's not concerning to me. On March 12 2016 10:32 Tumblewood wrote: Knowing that kush was scum, I feel that Shape has to be town. Their interaction at the start of D1 felt very organic; kush was trying to make Shape mess up. Other than that I haven't read into kush v. Shape, but that time would be better spent on someone I think might be scum. On March 12 2016 13:31 Tumblewood wrote: Shape just went so far into "how am I being townread" territory that I'm actually getting a little skeptical. On March 14 2016 07:12 Tumblewood wrote: I am confident scum is within: Slam Rels Shape? Slam feels mostly right to me, but I'm also worried about how easy that lynch is for scum. Shape feels mostly wrong, but I could see him just trying to coast through to lylo. On March 15 2016 04:03 Tumblewood wrote: Koshi, I'm just cautioning you towards voting Shape for trolling over helping. He is Slam Jr. with a greater filter size. Do you think it's so extreme that he's just hiding behind his playstyle? On March 15 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote: Oh... that last post. I have just one or two reasons to think it's Shape, and it's going to take a filter dive for me to remember. On March 17 2016 02:53 Tumblewood wrote: The thing that sticks out to me about Shape's D3 play is that it doesn't look like he's having fun. Usually his trolling is clearly carefree, but even the Hapa thing looks like he's trolling so he can maintain his image. I mean he has not really, one way or the other, said I was his lynch or anything for today (you can infer it since he seems to have changed his mind on you Rels and i would be the last person on his scum list.) Things that are weird to me: -Says it would take a filter dive to remember, never remembers. -Tumble has played 4 games (counting this) with me. 3 he knows my alignment. He has watched me played scum, and played along with me until i got him lynched. Now I can't recall correctly if I or not TROOLZ during than, but i know as town i often get more Realizes when the game gets on. Especially when i am about to get ML. Though I wouldn't put it on him since I died N2 in one game and I got Moddy killed in Team. Both before Day 3. So really I guess, Technically, he only knows my town meta until N2. -Tumble found the Interaction I had with Kush organic and nature, yet when Koshi scum reads me for it. Does not mention it. @Rels, do you think it is possible for Scum!Kush to vote on Scum!tumble like he did before? I mean it is a risky move, but i guess he could of predicted someone stopping it (which if that is the case, i played into their hands) But i doubt it. | ||
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I feel these 2 pics explain my trolliness based on alignment. town: ![[image loading]](http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--mMTpL6eb--/1293763457308486245.jpg) Scum: ![[image loading]](http://orig04.deviantart.net/3088/f/2013/098/4/d/trolling_explained_meme_by_thesalsaman-d60yz0b.jpg) *Minus the Small Dick part. | ||
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On March 17 2016 05:45 Rels wrote: Yeah kush voting tumble is the only thing in tumble favor but his play is so opportunistic I think he's scum anyway I think i called Tumble opportunistic in XIX??? I can't remember. I might check it again or Team (prob. the latter) to see if he was opportunistic there. I mean he is a tad bit opportunistic. On March 14 2016 07:12 Tumblewood wrote: I am confident scum is within: Slam Rels Shape? Slam feels mostly right to me, but I'm also worried about how easy that lynch is for scum. Shape feels mostly wrong, but I could see him just trying to coast through to lylo. Slam and Rels at the time where the threads lynches. And I guess now me (that is questionable, can infer but a bit questionable that he is fully supporting it)? + Show Spoiler + I had this really dumb moment of Confirmation bias On March 14 2016 07:14 Tumblewood wrote: I'm looking out for anyone whose play became more defensive (i.e., more careful about getting lynched) after the modkill. About this being a set up too sus. me with Koshi being sus on me. Though I haven't check the time stamps. It could fit, but i do not think so I mean his read progression on me is as questionable as Yammtys read on tumble to a extent. Let me dive Yammtys filter here (I went with gerpit 1st because He kinda has been boring shhh) and see more closely. Yammty sus kinda went in the other way of opportunisticville. On March 17 2016 05:48 Koshi wrote: Just sheep Koshi. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa(d) Koshisus ![[image loading]](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/06/1407342417060_Image_galleryImage_Dated_06_08_2014_Farmer_J.JPG) you are leading your kin into death (well my innocent death) Kinda sucks that night are silent in the case that I do get lynch so I can see your reaction to me being town. | ||
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On March 16 2016 11:56 Tumblewood wrote: I just looked through yamato's filter, and I think he could be scum. Here are the points against: - Inactive since D1 (not really a point since activity reads suck) - Says I'm the best lynch without giving any read on me - Lacking substantive reads in general - Not invested in the D2 lynch even though he said "literally never lynching Slam" Those townreading yamato, what do you see in him? Start of day: yamato might be scum. On March 17 2016 02:53 Tumblewood wrote: The thing that sticks out to me about Shape's D3 play is that it doesn't look like he's having fun. Usually his trolling is clearly carefree, but even the Hapa thing looks like he's trolling so he can maintain his image. Next post 15 hours later: yeah Shape might be scum. Tumble is very likely the last scum, he did the minimum to survive all game, which is understandable given kush was modkilled which was a big blow. Still want to read yamato's filter before deciding but I'll probably vote Tumble. Diner first then I'll do that. | ||
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Anyways. His "scum read" (he really hasn't said Shape is my scum read, and my lynch choice) on me is not totally out of the relam of possiblity. Thing is I have like what? 2 people or something voting for me? So he could join. Yammty also has not really come back during than as well. Tumble is a very low post count poster. His town game in devil reflected that. And if he is scum here, that would mean he would be scum 3/4 times now, most likely resulting in a burn out. Add the possiblity of a suppose team deing and it really becomes hard to determine which side of the coin he is. Though, meta is dumb. So ahhoo. Finishing up Uammty post. | ||
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On March 10 2016 09:09 yamato77 wrote: These posts seem quite incongruent. How can you townread Rels for calling Slam scum (for a reason you find actually good) and then say that if Slam is scum it makes Rels MORE likely scum? Really horrid reasoning there, I'd say. Yeah yamato was the only guy not townreading kush. Points at not being his partner. | ||
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OK with Vivax lynch D1. Slam Rels maybe Shape D2. yamato start of D3. Now he's voting Shape. And each time it's when other people are OK lynching these targets. Pretty sure he's scum. | ||
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- Inactive since D1 (not really a point since activity reads suck) Literally said why i think this is not really fair. Tumble has been only a bit more active than Yammty. - Says I'm the best lynch without giving any read on me This is kinda true in a way and i already went over his read progression I have something to add but sense it is not about Tumble, it gets ignore until later in post. Lacking substantive reads in general Yammty has given reads before and have made some big posts (On kush and Rels) He might not have a paragraph each time explaining a scum read, but he still gave some out. I will admit it has dropped though as the days go. Not invested in the D2 lynch even though he said "literally never lynching Slam" Just because the person you think is town is getting lynch does not mean if they did not defend said person, they are scum. Thou. I do see where Tumble is coming from. Going back and looking at that Slam Progression though. Strong Strong Anti Lynch Slam feelings that seem to not come into play after Kush flipped. He kinda of postilion himself where he wouldn't come underfire from a ML on Slam. TLDR: On March 16 2016 11:56 Tumblewood wrote: I just looked through yamato's filter, and I think he could be scum. Here are the points against: - Says I'm the best lynch without giving any read on me - Lacking substantive reads in general recently - Not invested in the D2 lynch even though he said "literally never lynching Slam" Those townreading yamato, what do you see in him? Alright time for to really get to the point. Yammty reads acutely are all over the place. I've shown you his Tumble read progression, so let me show you the others. Edit: I actually just started doing ones I thought that were weird and I did Slam due to Slam being a point from Tumble reasons Gerpit: + Show Spoiler + On March 09 2016 05:23 yamato77 wrote: I clearly said geript wasn't mafia for what I was pointing out you imbecile. You wrote more about my reads than I did. You're reaching. This post is horrid. On March 10 2016 09:41 yamato77 wrote: My reads, as of now: Town Slam (Reading his filter gives a green impression) Koshi (just horribly wrong) Tumble (Agrees with me on Vivax, maintains silly noir thing that costs effort) Shapelog (early game was obv town and is a consensus townread) Null Geript (???) Kush (posted reasons to doubt kush's alignment) Rels (inconsistent read progression on multiple players, kneejerk "LYNCH THIS GUY" behavior at the expense of his other reads) Mafia Vivax (lol) Null Read on Gerpit. Fine and danty. Gerpit Hammer unvote, Kushs Modkiill. On March 12 2016 08:19 yamato77 wrote: I think I want to lynch Rels or Geript today. Scum enough to lynch. Didn't really explain it much. Went from null with ??? as a read to lynch worthy material. On March 12 2016 14:39 yamato77 wrote: Tumble, let's talk a bit about reads. What do you think of: Geript Rels And now askings the thread about his scum read on Gerpit. Ok, I can understand this. You have a read and you want to know what other people think. On March 14 2016 07:50 yamato77 wrote: I could see Tumble. I still really don't think it's shape or geript either. I could have been super wrong on Koshi this entire game but something tells me that's unlikely. Maybe I'm wrong about Slam, I dunno. I won't stop a Slam lynch but it just feels wrong. When did the unscumming of the gerpit take place? I would of been find if he said "I changed my mind" but he said Still, like he had Gerpit as a cleared suspect. When before he was asking other people on their reads of them. And I know he could change his mind but the word usage suggests that Yammty had him as town. Maybe the delay in time between posts a counts to this? Weird though. I mean he didn't really even stated a reason to scum read Gerpit in this progession (unless I missed something) I infer it is about the Unvote, but him not really saying anything about it, wanting to lynch, and then talk like if he had him cleared. SENSI SLAM OF POLYTOWN: + Show Spoiler + On March 08 2016 17:03 yamato77 wrote: I don't necessarily disagree with your plan but it doesn't exactly inspire faith either. I do need convincing on Slam, though. I don't think he's trolling either, his posting seems lazy, but does that mean he's mafia? Null. Prob. just me but it sounds a bit frab. with the "does it mean he's gosh mafia????" part. On March 10 2016 04:28 yamato77 wrote: Not opposed to lynching but I want to avoid lynching slam if at all possible. Would lynch Vivax today 10/10 best play. I'll go vote him and the rest of you have until deadline to decide how much you trust me. I have an appointment in half hour and won't be back until after the deadline. Unlucky. Doesn't really say why till 5 hours later. Instead went into reasons to vote Vivax. On March 10 2016 09:41 yamato77 wrote: My reads, as of now: Town Slam (Reading his filter gives a green impression) Koshi (just horribly wrong) Tumble (Agrees with me on Vivax, maintains silly noir thing that costs effort) Shapelog (early game was obv town and is a consensus townread) Null Geript (???) Kush (posted reasons to doubt kush's alignment) Rels (inconsistent read progression on multiple players, kneejerk "LYNCH THIS GUY" behavior at the expense of his other reads) Mafia Vivax (lol) Top Town read. Filter made him think he is town yotty yot. Vivax (Kushs Friend) Is at scumville because of Lol's On March 10 2016 09:59 yamato77 wrote: So you, like everyone else seemingly, are convinced that Slam is actually mafia? Second top town questions Top town Alignment. Yammty is against it. On March 11 2016 00:10 yamato77 wrote: I'm literally never lynching Slam lmao. NEVERRRRRRRRRZ. Makes sense At time with him being his top town read and since it is before Kush flip. Kush Flip On March 13 2016 05:12 yamato77 wrote: I'd say I'm much less confident in my Slam townread knowing that kush is mafia and that he didn't follow through on his promise to vote him. Understandable On March 13 2016 08:40 yamato77 wrote: I mean, I read his filter two days ago. Not like anything changed in the time since. I pointed out the weird stuff he said then, and it still applies now that he's dead. His read on Rels was really weird, so was his read on Slam. Same On March 14 2016 01:02 yamato77 wrote: I can unfortunately think of at least a few reasons that Slam could be town. 1) My assessment of his posting (could be flawed) 2) Kush did vote him late in the day 3)They interact a fair amount But 1) Kush could have been the 48hr hammer and wasn't 2) Kush's read on Slam was quite oddly phrased 3) Slam's read on Kush was ??? Townreads for little apparent reason, and has this post defending Kush: Difficult to decide on Slam, honestly. I do not see why it is unfortunate that your top town read D1 could still be town but w/e. Prob. not the desire effect. I could understand read on Slam being scum. Confirmation Bias played into (Ik) at least my mind with Slam soft defending Kush. What is weird is that he really did not pull anything that i think he town read slam for D1. it was really all Kush kush kush. Understandable, but he had a another reason he could add. Null on Slam for the most part with last line. Feels overdraft but that is just me. On March 14 2016 03:36 yamato77 wrote: After reading his filter, I don't think there's much implicating Rels as Kush's scumbuddy. They interact quite a bit, and while I don't understand his unthinking townread of Kush, it can be excused as seemingly most of you had no issue with kush's play. Rels also seems like one of the more invested people in making actual reads. It would be a poor lynch IMO without seeing more of what he has to say currently. I also shy away from lynching Slam, as I saw a kush quote where he pushes a Slam lynch in the third 24 hour period quite heavily. I will look more closely at Kush's filter. Koshi, it would be nice if you played the game more interactively right now. I get that you were upset and all but I think you can still manage to be more useful. Town lean on slam. Makes sense with read progession. On March 14 2016 03:55 yamato77 wrote: Does mafia kush defend Vivax and push on his scumbuddy Slam as an alternate lynch? Hm. I also think that it's possible he was going to vote Slam on the 2nd 24hr period and just forgot. I'd say it's quite unlikely Slam is mafia. Town lean blajh blahb labh On March 14 2016 07:50 yamato77 wrote: I could see Tumble. I still really don't think it's shape or geript either. I could have been super wrong on Koshi this entire game but something tells me that's unlikely. Maybe I'm wrong about Slam, I dunno. I won't stop a Slam lynch but it just feels wrong. Well no shit sherlock. Your once top town read and someone who you think is still town is getting lynched. Actually this entire post come to think about, is a "Maybe" post. The post were you just list maybes and that is it. Idk, this feels frabcated a bit as well. Like fake emountion (remorse) for a lynch. Vs: On March 10 2016 09:05 yamato77 wrote: I think this is a poor case against Tumble. 1) Vivax did indeed spend a lot of the early game asking pointless questions about anatomy. He really only gave a solid read after I told him he was trash. Even since, he's been more interested in fighting with Koshi than finding mafia. It's pretty funny IMO. 2) Tumble expects SOMETHING from Slam as a defense. Why is sheeping a townread a bad thing, exactly? I don't agree with doing it but I can see how someone in his position does. Not a solid reason for a #1 scumread IMO. Where he gave indepth a reason why he found a lynch poor. If someone who is prob getting lynch, and is a town of yours, would you defend it? Idk. Feels a bit off now that I look at it myself. But, like I said before I beleive that this is a ok read progression. Maybe he was burn out or because he really did not have a clue on Slam. Verdict: Fine Vivaxs Read progression is fine. Kush: I like Yammty really because of his posts about Kush. His sus. and stuff. Now I know you can throw dirt and stuff at your teammate. But Kush was not in jeponardo of getting lynched. Feels like scum wouldn't do it. Like I really Like Yammty because of those posts. If you do not know them, then you really need to reread. TLDR: Do not actually read a book by it's cover. I thought Yammty reads weird funky due to Gerpit. Which is his really other questable read progression (Maybe slam, depends on how you look at it) -Slams progression was ok. I can see both side of the agurement, but I just the right (or what ever side town is on) -Gerpit read progression is really weird IMO, do not know how the Time off influnenced him so i can not say without a doubt that is is a change. Feel though that he would at least say why he drop sus, -Vivax Read progression is fine. I am not town reading due to him voting for vivax since I have a notation (unfounded a course) that Kushes scum mate was pushing Vivax. -Like Yammty for his Kush posts. Really would appreciate thoughts about Gerpit read progression. | ||
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