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On February 25 2016 00:05 Shapelog wrote:
Hm ok
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You have nothing to say on my read of OWS ? Or Damdred ?
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On February 25 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
iim just waiting for ritoky to 50/50 this thing I dont feel like analyzing this shit if i have a 33% of being removed from the game immediately
Your gut reads on FF and Breshke ?
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On February 25 2016 00:08 Rels wrote:
To me, it looks like DF is scum with Breshke, got shit on both FF and VA, and is waiting to see on which the 50/50 is going to fall.
I was thinking much of the same thing but with FF as scum so hmm.
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On February 25 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
iim just waiting for ritoky to 50/50 this thing I dont feel like analyzing this shit if i have a 33% of being removed from the game immediately Your gut reads on FF and Breshke ?
breshke scum
my updated list is
breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL
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I do not like this post.
On February 24 2016 08:35 Breshke wrote:Damdred are you still here? This is a lot harder than i thought it would be. Currently after my brief skims through VA and FF's filter I havn't actually found anything scummy from either of them.I think VA is the scum though purely from the fact that this looks exactly like what I remember from FF and i've only ever played with him as town iirc. His posts seem totally carefree and there is the random posts that do not relate to the game whatsoever. I will look through his recent scumgames though and see if it's any different.@VA Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote:On February 23 2016 11:56 ritoky wrote:On February 23 2016 11:38 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky do you have any town reads or scum reads here?
I didn't like sls entrance but idk I wouldn't want your cell up early in either instance. But I don't think for SL it was necessarily scummy just a shitty excuse i was mildkly okay with OWS's entrance cuz of his confidence level. basically said "i can shit enough town and i can read damdred well enough that my cell is cake". kush feels town for now darth doesn't seem like town darth right now, he typed a big post and none of it was about the current game. SL was underwhelming on his entrance. VA did the town VA thing, but i kinda told him that meta read last time we played so he could easily be emulating it you overestimate my memory, barely remember what happened in that game but dont worry ill solve the game right now SL Obi Rels breshke vivax badabing I know this was at the start of the game but do you remember reasons for this list.
So he has not reason to scum read anyone, but yet then scums VA. That in itself is a bit weird. But then says he is going to filter VA.
On February 24 2016 08:37 Breshke wrote:
erm FF wanna be a mate and tell me which were your scumgames. I forgot database wouldnt have em.
180 from Filter diving VA. This was right after he posted saying he was going to filter dive VA.
It is strange that he does not follow up on his scum read and instead go after some who he think is town. If he thinks that FF is town, and if he is town, then he should be focusing hard on VA. But he does isn't
Breshke is Scum! and I am sorry to FF for calling him scum 
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On February 25 2016 00:23 Kuragari42 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 00:08 Rels wrote:
To me, it looks like DF is scum with Breshke, got shit on both FF and VA, and is waiting to see on which the 50/50 is going to fall. I was thinking much of the same thing but with FF as scum so hmm.
I don't understand. If FF is scum and VA is chosen by the 50/50, DF is forced to bus FF ? Why do you have the feeling that DF is scum with FF ?
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On February 25 2016 00:22 Rels wrote:... You have nothing to say on my read of OWS ? Or Damdred ?
A course, both rely on a good bit of Meta. You than admit that OWS is not as aggressive as you thought, but you like his post. A course, you do not say why but w/e.
I do not like the fact you appear to just use meta to read them. Especially when I know one is scum.
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On February 25 2016 00:23 Kuragari42 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 00:08 Rels wrote:
To me, it looks like DF is scum with Breshke, got shit on both FF and VA, and is waiting to see on which the 50/50 is going to fall. I was thinking much of the same thing but with FF as scum so hmm.
Why would Scum! darth question TRs on Scum!FF when it was not cool?
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I woke up and played some LoL games to wake myself up more and saw Rels starting to post more. I liking him over Darth honestly it feels like town Rels to me despite his inactivity until now.
Also to answer your question Shape: Scum loves giving townreads on people more than calling people scum even if that person doesn't look that great to the majority of the people.
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On February 25 2016 00:51 LightningStrike wrote:
I woke up and played some LoL games to wake myself up more and saw Rels starting to post more. I liking him over Darth honestly it feels like town Rels to me despite his inactivity until now.
Also to answer your question Shape: Scum loves giving townreads on people more than calling people scum even if that person doesn't look that great to the majority of the people.
What question are you answering LS?
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On February 25 2016 00:55 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 00:51 LightningStrike wrote:
I woke up and played some LoL games to wake myself up more and saw Rels starting to post more. I liking him over Darth honestly it feels like town Rels to me despite his inactivity until now.
Also to answer your question Shape: Scum loves giving townreads on people more than calling people scum even if that person doesn't look that great to the majority of the people. What question are you answering LS?
Your last question towards I think kur.
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On February 25 2016 00:56 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 00:55 Shapelog wrote:On February 25 2016 00:51 LightningStrike wrote:
I woke up and played some LoL games to wake myself up more and saw Rels starting to post more. I liking him over Darth honestly it feels like town Rels to me despite his inactivity until now.
Also to answer your question Shape: Scum loves giving townreads on people more than calling people scum even if that person doesn't look that great to the majority of the people. What question are you answering LS? Your last question towards I think kur.
But Darth did not give FF a TR. He was questioning people's town read on FF.
On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote:Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them. I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons. Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke.
All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor?
Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far Posts he was referencing: + Show Spoiler +On February 23 2016 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Should all would be mayors post what their cell order would be since that is really the only thing that would differentiate them?
Just at a quick glance ritoky like say without reading anyone's posts what would you make the order? On February 23 2016 07:35 Breshke wrote:
Rit is the assumption right that you want to put the "strong" players in the final cells and the weaker players in the early cells?
Or is cell 4 more important than cell 5 because cell 5 you have like all the information to go off? On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard. im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective.
That is why I am asking Kura, How does a Darth/FF scum team makes sense if Darth was going against TR's on FF. Wouldn't a scum mate, with a mate in a lynch, agree with the TR's instead of going against?
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On February 25 2016 01:00 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 00:56 LightningStrike wrote:On February 25 2016 00:55 Shapelog wrote:On February 25 2016 00:51 LightningStrike wrote:
I woke up and played some LoL games to wake myself up more and saw Rels starting to post more. I liking him over Darth honestly it feels like town Rels to me despite his inactivity until now.
Also to answer your question Shape: Scum loves giving townreads on people more than calling people scum even if that person doesn't look that great to the majority of the people. What question are you answering LS? Your last question towards I think kur. But Darth did not give FF a TR. He was questioning people's town read on FF. Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote:Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them. I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons. On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke.
All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor?
Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far Posts he was referencing: + Show Spoiler +On February 23 2016 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Should all would be mayors post what their cell order would be since that is really the only thing that would differentiate them?
Just at a quick glance ritoky like say without reading anyone's posts what would you make the order? On February 23 2016 07:35 Breshke wrote:
Rit is the assumption right that you want to put the "strong" players in the final cells and the weaker players in the early cells?
Or is cell 4 more important than cell 5 because cell 5 you have like all the information to go off? On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard. im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective. That is why I am asking Kura, How does a Darth/FF scum team makes sense if Darth was going against TR's on FF. Wouldn't a scum mate, with a mate in a lynch, agree with the TR's instead of going against?
Oh I misunderstood what you were asking him. I had seen scum bus for no reason at all like MD did on Copcake in one of the Newbie games(I think X XI I don't remember). Other than that idk man it seems kinda odd.
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On February 25 2016 00:28 Rels wrote:
I don't understand. If FF is scum and VA is chosen by the 50/50, DF is forced to bus FF ? Why do you have the feeling that DF is scum with FF ?
It appeared to me as though he was going for towncred. Since more people were scumming Breske, if VA were 50/50'd Breske could be the lynch even if Darth bussed. If Breske got 50/50'd, well he town read him all along.
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On February 25 2016 00:08 Rels wrote:Actually I don't understand this post at all. Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote:Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them. I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons. On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke.
All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor?
Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far Posts he was referencing: + Show Spoiler +On February 23 2016 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Should all would be mayors post what their cell order would be since that is really the only thing that would differentiate them?
Just at a quick glance ritoky like say without reading anyone's posts what would you make the order? On February 23 2016 07:35 Breshke wrote:
Rit is the assumption right that you want to put the "strong" players in the final cells and the weaker players in the early cells?
Or is cell 4 more important than cell 5 because cell 5 you have like all the information to go off? On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard. im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective. VA I am slightly scum reading right now... I liked Kush's reasoning behind his cell order and where to put easy/hard cells more than VA's argument, but I am not sure if that's alignment indicative yet. Seems like a mafia thing to want: planting the hard cells early so they just win a quick 3-0 or 3-1. VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning. I think Kush's approach of win now rather than later is much more town oriented. Think we should think about 50/50 here if the play doesn't pick up About FF, since "Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless" and his only relevant post (about Breshke) are bad, FF HAS to be scum right ? Yet he seems super unsure about that fact. I don't undersatnd the VA scumread. If the scumread was only: Show nested quote +VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning then OK, I would get it. But that shit is overexplained with stuff that is apparently "not alignment indicative yet". To me, it looks like DF is scum with Breshke, got shit on both FF and VA, and is waiting to see on which the 50/50 is going to fall.
No, he doesn't HAVE to be scum. The reason I think 50/50 would be quite beneficial on this group is simply because all three of the players have been underwhelming. I don't think any of them have added useful town discussion, so I consider this cell a crap shoot with VA/FF feeling more scummy than Breshke.
I'm unsure about FF right now because I have to accept the fact that only 1 out of 3 players in this meh scummy cell is scum.
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On February 25 2016 01:35 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 00:08 Rels wrote:Actually I don't understand this post at all. On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote:Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them. I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons. On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke.
All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor?
Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far Posts he was referencing: + Show Spoiler +On February 23 2016 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Should all would be mayors post what their cell order would be since that is really the only thing that would differentiate them?
Just at a quick glance ritoky like say without reading anyone's posts what would you make the order? On February 23 2016 07:35 Breshke wrote:
Rit is the assumption right that you want to put the "strong" players in the final cells and the weaker players in the early cells?
Or is cell 4 more important than cell 5 because cell 5 you have like all the information to go off? On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard. im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective. VA I am slightly scum reading right now... I liked Kush's reasoning behind his cell order and where to put easy/hard cells more than VA's argument, but I am not sure if that's alignment indicative yet. Seems like a mafia thing to want: planting the hard cells early so they just win a quick 3-0 or 3-1. VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning. I think Kush's approach of win now rather than later is much more town oriented. Think we should think about 50/50 here if the play doesn't pick up About FF, since "Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless" and his only relevant post (about Breshke) are bad, FF HAS to be scum right ? Yet he seems super unsure about that fact. I don't undersatnd the VA scumread. If the scumread was only: VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning then OK, I would get it. But that shit is overexplained with stuff that is apparently "not alignment indicative yet". To me, it looks like DF is scum with Breshke, got shit on both FF and VA, and is waiting to see on which the 50/50 is going to fall. No, he doesn't HAVE to be scum. The reason I think 50/50 would be quite beneficial on this group is simply because all three of the players have been underwhelming. I don't think any of them have added useful town discussion, so I consider this cell a crap shoot with VA/FF feeling more scummy than Breshke. I'm unsure about FF right now because I have to accept the fact that only 1 out of 3 players in this meh scummy cell is scum.
So by proxy are you scum? if you truly believe that being underwhelming to discussion is what makes people scummy, then you must be scum right?
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On February 25 2016 01:20 Kuragari42 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 00:28 Rels wrote:
I don't understand. If FF is scum and VA is chosen by the 50/50, DF is forced to bus FF ? Why do you have the feeling that DF is scum with FF ? It appeared to me as though he was going for towncred. Since more people were scumming Breske, if VA were 50/50'd Breske could be the lynch even if Darth bussed. If Breske got 50/50'd, well he town read him all along.
I still don't understand. Sure this scenario is possible, but there is nothing that makes it likely or not likely. It is not the simplest explanation either.
What is your read of DF ?
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On February 25 2016 01:35 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 00:08 Rels wrote:Actually I don't understand this post at all. On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote:Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them. I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons. On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke.
All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor?
Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far Posts he was referencing: + Show Spoiler +On February 23 2016 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Should all would be mayors post what their cell order would be since that is really the only thing that would differentiate them?
Just at a quick glance ritoky like say without reading anyone's posts what would you make the order? On February 23 2016 07:35 Breshke wrote:
Rit is the assumption right that you want to put the "strong" players in the final cells and the weaker players in the early cells?
Or is cell 4 more important than cell 5 because cell 5 you have like all the information to go off? On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard. im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective. VA I am slightly scum reading right now... I liked Kush's reasoning behind his cell order and where to put easy/hard cells more than VA's argument, but I am not sure if that's alignment indicative yet. Seems like a mafia thing to want: planting the hard cells early so they just win a quick 3-0 or 3-1. VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning. I think Kush's approach of win now rather than later is much more town oriented. Think we should think about 50/50 here if the play doesn't pick up About FF, since "Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless" and his only relevant post (about Breshke) are bad, FF HAS to be scum right ? Yet he seems super unsure about that fact. I don't undersatnd the VA scumread. If the scumread was only: VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning then OK, I would get it. But that shit is overexplained with stuff that is apparently "not alignment indicative yet". To me, it looks like DF is scum with Breshke, got shit on both FF and VA, and is waiting to see on which the 50/50 is going to fall. No, he doesn't HAVE to be scum. The reason I think 50/50 would be quite beneficial on this group is simply because all three of the players have been underwhelming. I don't think any of them have added useful town discussion, so I consider this cell a crap shoot with VA/FF feeling more scummy than Breshke. I'm unsure about FF right now because I have to accept the fact that only 1 out of 3 players in this meh scummy cell is scum.
Your reason for townreading Breshke is super bad though. He posts 3 things that are talking about cell strategy, that are completely not alignment indicative, even scum indicative when added to the fact that it is the only thing he has talked about N0, and you think he sounds "like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective."
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On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:On February 25 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
iim just waiting for ritoky to 50/50 this thing I dont feel like analyzing this shit if i have a 33% of being removed from the game immediately Your gut reads on FF and Breshke ? breshke scum my updated list is breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL
Why vivax over bum?
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Rels:
FF => kinda useless, don't know. Hope he's chosen by 50/50 if he's town.
Can you please explain how he's been "kinda useless" when i've been super scum read by you as "useless"? His filter is absolute ass.
Also, please explain how the hell you concluded that VA has been "aggressively" posting his thoughts and reads? You mean his one page filter, or his scummy ideas about cell order? Or maybe THESE "aggressive" reads l0l
On February 24 2016 04:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
potential tinfoil is that one of damdred/ritoky is scum because surely at least one tried to obtain scum mayor? But I mean its not really THAT powerful to be mayor so meh. not really important
Good to know that this stupid tin foil post is not really important, thanks! He also says early Damdred is posting 100% town but then includes him in a potential scum mayor tinfoil with ritoky. He should only be implying that ritoky would be scum!mayor because Damdred is town in his eyes. Also, he didn't even vote for the mayor candidate that he said was 100% town. How the hell do you town read this?
On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:On February 25 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
iim just waiting for ritoky to 50/50 this thing I dont feel like analyzing this shit if i have a 33% of being removed from the game immediately Your gut reads on FF and Breshke ? breshke scum my updated list is breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL
Wow, what aggressive reads: he's scum reading two people in the first two cells that everyone seems to be scum reading (Breshke, now me apparently). How original. It'd be great for mafia to go up 2-0 
These are shitty reads from town rels imo
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