[M][I] Rayn's let's be nice invite mini mafia

On January 08 2016 12:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

nice strategy already


no it's not a problem. You still post and vote.
Usually more thinking - less posting results in more quality play tbh.

On January 12 2016 20:29 marvellosity wrote:

24h is better.

On January 14 2016 17:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:

If i made the posts DYH did would you consider me town?

On January 14 2016 17:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Do you realize DYH is a really good scumplayer?

On January 14 2016 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos what do you think about Damdred so far?

On January 14 2016 17:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am saying he could definitely make those posts as mafia aswell as town.
I don't have a read on one way or another on him, if that wasn't clear.

On January 14 2016 10:19 Damdred wrote:
You should just town me and try to pocket me here.

As for ace, hello ace i'm pretty new player (XD). I'm not very good depending on who you ask, it takes a bit of prodding to get me to explain what I think and why but don't worry I don't tunnel.

I've heard a lot about you and expect a lot

On January 14 2016 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE could you elaborate on the thought process on your first three posts? You basically read the thread in a.... non-chronological order, yes?

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I am not sure i can see where ritoky is coming from with his Trfel read. However i personally think this looks like Trfel's townplay for the simple reason that he focuses on finding townreads instead of scumreads -- i looked the last scumgame ritoky referred to (at least i think it was that game?) and what Trfel did there was, yes, aggressive, but it was basically a case on VE. I don't think Trfel's meta is that black and white (aggressive = mafia, which, unless i am mistaken ritoky is suggesting here). The last time i personally played with Trfel (when he was scum) he didn't play like in the game ritoky pointed out at all..

He seems to be the most involved person to get the game going and actually scumhunt, and that's why i think he is town. I don't even think "aggressive" is the right word here, "involved" would be more fitting. So yeah, Trfel is town.

ritoky please, elaborate this. I also think the associative read on DYH is... meh..

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I don't think there is much anything to say about other people.

I think DYH's play is perfectly in range of his scumplay, and he hasn't really.. contributed much aside the Trfel read. Judging from his last coach QT he is a pretty good scumplayer and aware of his "meta" so i don't think Trfel's read is necessarily correct here, i just think the read tells more about Trfel than it does from DYH.

Ace, one thing. I know your scumplay looks pretty much like your townplay because you like... ugh.. how to put it.. don't necessarily care about "how you look". I mean you don't take part in discussions you find "not relevant" but i have to disagree here with you; It's also the reason you look "scummy" when you are town, people get paranoid because they thing you are withholding information (like already seen to be said in this game).

I don't think Cephiro's and Alot's posting makes them anything yet.

On January 14 2016 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:

says the dude who ninja-voted twice..
lastly on his null-read.

On January 14 2016 18:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:

What? I don't understand anything you say here.

On January 14 2016 18:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:

this too.
Ace seems to be putting in effort but you are voting for him so he would put in effort?

On January 14 2016 14:14 ritoky wrote:
for myself for later: if trfel ever flips mafia, lynch dyh

On January 14 2016 13:42 DoYouHas wrote:
Scumlean ritoky, townlean trfel

ritoky's scumlean on trfel doesn't make much sense. He is ignoring trfel's townread on me post, which is trfel's meatiest one so far, which should put him outside of the column of players that "try to be funny, fit in, sound natural, or do nothing". He finds trfel's pushing questioning of him a townie thing, but frames it as either null or scummy because it isn't outside of what trfel could do as scum. Basically has argued trfel to a null unless i'm reading him wrong. So the only reason I see to mafia-lean trfel would be a gut read. But if it is a gut read, that is a lot of explanation. It would make more sense for rito to be scumleaning someone in his do nothing category since the contrast against that category is what makes cephiro town in his eyes.

Trfel is engaging multiple people, generating content, and pressing for answers.

On January 14 2016 14:08 DoYouHas wrote:
I don't see this aggressiveness you are describing. He joked around, gave a townread on me, and has been questioning people and defending against you. Are you basing this on his initial satirical case on me?

On January 14 2016 18:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ahh okay.. now i see what you mean..
hmm.. it actually makes sense.
Maybe ritoky is town too.

On January 14 2016 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you were talking about Trfel and DYH there. I somehow thought you were talking about ritoky.

I disagree with you. I don't think it's likely at all ritoky does that as mafia.

On January 14 2016 18:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE i don't think that explains what i am asking.
I am talking about this set of posts you made:
+ Show Spoiler +
Now i am assuming you read the thread and however much (or few) attention you paid to the thread at that time you commented on posts you found interesting. So first is the Trfel's "scumread" on DYH. The problem i have here is that Palmar's post you quoted happened after the Trfel's townread post on DYH.

Now it is natural that you comment on it, and it makes sense, what doesn't make sense is why you skip that post at first and comment on Palmar's post - - and only then come back to comment on it?

On January 14 2016 18:39 VisceraEyes wrote:

This describes ritoky as either alignment as far as I'm aware.

On January 14 2016 18:44 VisceraEyes wrote:

I mean, have you ever read a game where ritoky gives a shit what anyone thinks?

On January 14 2016 18:42 Palmar wrote:
I think Xatalos looks really good in this exchange and rayn really bad.

On January 14 2016 18:47 Palmar wrote:

This is pointless and frankly just wrong defense.

clearly rayn is pushing an agenda here.

On January 14 2016 18:50 Palmar wrote:

This is also a gross misrepresentation. Ace has written about 5 posts, none of which can be classified as high effort posts.

On January 14 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:

I have explained it rayn, you're just barely reading the thread so you don't notice. You're making an associative read based on your own misrepresentation. If ritoky is not mafia, then this is not the reason he is not mafia.

On January 14 2016 19:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No it isn't a weak reason. It's almost the same fucking reason i figured out Damdred was town in the last game, it stands true almost always. Because if ritoky is scum that is just bad scumplay.

On January 14 2016 19:48 ritoky wrote:


considering i thought your read on rayn was a long-con joke for probably 2 pages; i would say i am not particularly convinced. but perhaps your amazing intellect and subtle distinctions are too much for my half asleep 3 am brain. i doubt it.

gonna go out on a limb and say that rayn is probably just town for defending me, even though it's the firs time it's ever happened and it sketches me out a bit. only real reason to do something like that as mafia that early is to establish a pocket on me; and i don't think rayn values my town play enough to go out of the way to pocket me there. plus my argument is very self-centered and as has been established in the thread "i give no fucks what anyone says".

On January 14 2016 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Really Xatalos?

This is basically the same thing i said except you used different words...

On January 14 2016 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Xatalos did you agree with this or not?
If you didn't, why aren't you investigating into this further?

On January 14 2016 22:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Will Not Lynch Today
VE
ritoky
rayn
Trfel
Palmar
DYH
Xatalos
Would Consider Lynching
Ace
marv
Damdred
My Lynch Preference
Alot

I prefer Alot because he's one of the only players to pop in and actually give an unreasoned opinion and then fade into the background. Most everyone has struck up some sort of conversation with someone and Alot did not. Maybe he had something else to do, or maybe he went to bed, or whatever. But I just didn't like the way he just sorta faded into obscurity after his throwaway opinions.

So yeah. I'm headed to bed. If anyone wants my reasons for why people are where they are on my list, then ask and I'll maybe eventually get to it. For the most part though you should probably just accept that I have reasons that I didn't provide and they're good ones.