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/in My only condition: I refuse to tryhard this game. | ||
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On December 27 2015 08:38 ritoky wrote: yo koshi, if vivax doesn't have more than 7 posts in the first 30 hours you wanna lynch him with me? Can I get the towncred I was never able to cash in on for lynching him last game if I help? I don't care what he flips, just give me them town creds and nobody needs to get hurt. | ||
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On December 27 2015 08:11 GlowingBear wrote: OHAI I'm mafia! Lynch me ##Vote: GlowingBear Is nobody gunna discuss this obvious legit very real claim and self vote? Personally, I could | ||
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People was here, some merry-ment was had we made a few reads, and shared a few laughs but now I shall go, for my grammer is bad also like Trfel, I like the sound of hot steamy baths | ||
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Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open. No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything. | ||
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You kus you posted a bunch of questions to everyone but haven't really used peoples responses to further reads. Also these: On December 27 2015 11:11 N e s s wrote: And i'm not going to write Exo off as scum myself. Sure, people are throwing scum! at him, but to me he reminds me alot of how i played in mafia. Getting accused then getting mad. He could be mafia, ![[image loading]](https://media0.giphy.com/media/k9XrZaAJuQyMU/200_s.gif) On December 27 2015 11:22 N e s s wrote: Choose one person with not much to go off of? Sicklucker, just because. That or whoever seems scummiest rn i don't care enough to do anything On December 27 2015 11:24 N e s s wrote: *as to why sicklucker his posts are annoying me. he's giving me a gut feeling of him being scum. Butttt Ness! Isn't Glowbunny scummier? Gb seems good. He was going after me, which seems alright. While others did too i don't think he's mafia atm. Noonian mostly kus of the smurf thing. | ||
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On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething). Have you even read my posts at all?  I think i have been quite clear in what i think.Sure you have basically the same read as me on Kush but I'm scum for it Seems legit | ||
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On December 27 2015 13:23 ritoky wrote: and your read on kush is: he's a smurf which he literally explained pre-game when he said "this is a smurf, cuz i can't view kush account at work" ...like wat? Ah, I didn't see that | ||
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On December 27 2015 13:25 Holyflare wrote: TickTock I suggest that you catch up and post some fleshed out reads rather than arguing semantics, it'll help expedite things nicely You can also vote for Vivax or explain why you aren't for free bonus points. Which everyone else should be doing too. No thanks. Might vote Vivax though, we'll see. | ||
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Will be catching up and whatnot as I can at work. | ||
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I'm fairly certain rayn is town based on his exchange with art over his GB read, also the fact that he checked Ness's othergames. SL is giving me townvibes, not super strong though. | ||
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On December 27 2015 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am actually retracting from my townread on Ness. This is one thing. The other thing is he calls sicklucker mafia for "just because". Then he votes for Vivax?!?!?!? Than he says this... Bigger fish to fry? Like.... sicklucker who he has basically no read on and just calls scum? Or Vivax, who is basically a non-poster at that point? Pfft rayn I pointed that out forever ago, and btw yes I still do think Ness is scum | ||
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On December 27 2015 23:46 sicklucker wrote: Ness is town because he asked this "can you see whos viewing thread" basicly hes asking if people can see if hes lurking or if he can see lurkers. If hes mafia and he is worried about people seeing him lurk he would ask his mafia qt so this is not possible. This only leaves the other option that he legitly wants to see if people are lurking. I think this statement alone makes him town and alot of other people have reasons to think hes town so im sure he is. The only other option is an intentional dumbtell which is very rare. I dont think a mafia would ask this ever due to being afraid of suspicion My only issue with this thinking is that it could just be a very legit, NAI, question he asked there and you are way overthinking it. I will admit that the nature of the question is more town indicative, but this wont really change my opinion by itself. | ||
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On December 28 2015 00:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I read it and I don't think his filter is as bad as tictock's. I like my vote where it is atm. Ouch. | ||
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On December 28 2015 00:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: We're not going to save people based on the fact that you can read them several days from now. I like Obi a little this game... I guess. | ||
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On December 28 2015 00:12 sicklucker wrote: can we not lynch him off the fact that last game we lynched him and were wrong? You know we should learn from history and such. He could be mafia or town but I would like to have some general idea what that is before we put one of are valuable lynches on the line If you guys want a "real" reason why I dont want vivax lynch its because it was fucking hf's idea who I think is very likely scum I'm sure this got brought up, but SL you missed Vivax last game as barely present mafia. He's also not as enthusiastic as he was in the town game you are referencing here. Somewhere in-between I'd say. | ||
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On December 28 2015 00:17 ExO_ wrote: I have to disagree. I get that I might not be able to make the same metareads as others here, but is Vivax really THAT scummy to this point? Everything that makes Vivax scummy (low post count, not contributing a lot) BF is worse at. At least Vivax is somewhat active in the thread. People posting = more information. People like BF not posting do not add any information at all. Exo's a cool dude. Def keep him alive. | ||
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On December 28 2015 00:22 GlowingBear wrote: Ok I've caught up. I think Rayn is town. I think Exo is town. I think sicklucker might be town. I'm not sure on Ness. I have plenty of suspicions on him but I think that thing Sicklucker said about asking questions in the QT actually makes sense. I have to decide whether it is fakeable or not. I'm also not sure on Ritoky, I've been reevaluating and I believe I may have been nitpicking him for that particular post, which brings him back null Artanis looks scummy, I hated his list post. Tictock looks scummy for his lack of pushes + his joke on hammering me and going after me felt pretty off. Too soon? | ||
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On December 28 2015 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well i really think TT is scum because everyone and their mother is willing to lynch Vivax at least on some level but everyone and their mother also refuses to commit on even giving a read on TT. Yep. Same as every other game. Damdred said what 20 games it took him? Sounds about right... | ||
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On December 28 2015 00:36 Holyflare wrote: This is a blatant post that much like TickTock proves that Vivax wasn't reading the thread AT ALL and just jumped on something that his defender (SL) was posting because SL wasn't also reading the thread. Nobody even jumped on this. People not reading the thread: TickTock, SL, Vivax How do you know this? Kus it's def not true and there is 100% every reason to think the opposite for all of us I think (even Vivax, a little). | ||
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On December 28 2015 00:57 Damdred wrote: So kush is now a good lynch to a point. Also...shining could be a good lynch If anyone cares what I think I listen damdred. Twice as hard when I'm scum ^.^ | ||
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On December 28 2015 01:52 N e s s wrote: This post is scummy imo. Scum Ticktock Exo Ticktock isn't focused in the game at all, he even said it as a post, and that post of his above is making me think he's scum. And Exo because i thought he was town earlier in game, but to me him getting mad is more of him going all Gung Ho on everybody. But if vivax ever makes a defense, i'm going to change my vote to TickTock. Didn't you already ask me about this and stuff? Also Exo is not scum. Still pretty sure you are mafia just jumping on all the easy shit going on. | ||
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On December 28 2015 04:46 Holyflare wrote: What's the point in playing when the 2 people I want to vote have wagons on them and there are like a million people afk? 0 point Did I miss you give a read on me? Or you fine with it just kus? | ||
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On December 28 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote: You can go to work with food poisoning? I think not my friend. Yep, sick around 9, get that shit all outta your system, head in by 1 with a couple hours extra sleep to get over it. | ||
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On December 28 2015 08:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh that makes sense, there wasn't actually a case. Most of your inital post on TT was bitching about how me and GB were reading GB poorly. Actually my main reason for scumming TT is a discrepancy in appearance; on one hand, giving (weak) reads. On the other hand, claiming not to really care and playing the bravado card. Why is this a discrepency? Even though I'm halfassing this game (which I said when I /in'd btw) I'm still gunna react to stuff and post right? Naturally making reads is part of that. | ||
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On December 28 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote: anyone want to lynch koshi because I might be open to that No, not at all actually. Why do you? | ||
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On December 28 2015 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: No you actually just quoted posts.. Exactly.. I also added a bold. Ofc you wouldn't notice  | ||
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On December 28 2015 12:20 nooniansoong wrote: Huh? Isn't your opinion already changed if you admit to it being town indicative? It's hard to believe you have a strong enough d1 case to counteract someone doing something town indicative. Actually I think it was a pretty legit NAI question. I can agree town is more likely to ask this about lurkers, but not necessarily kus it's also nice to use that to point fingers as scum. | ||
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Absolutely not. Was semi-bait. I think Ness was the only person to react to it till now. | ||
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On December 28 2015 13:35 ritoky wrote: i really want my question to tt answered, i hope he didn't fuck off Was work posting, I get short breaks >.< I'm prob around the rest of the day though. | ||
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On December 28 2015 16:08 Trfel wrote: Hey, Tictock, we appear to be at exactly the same place in the thread XD What did you think about the Artanis/raynpelikoneet argument about GlowingBear a page or two ago? Can you encourage me to keep reading and make it through? Nope I'm half ignoring rayn kus he had similar reactions to shit about Kush and Ness that I did, but I'm scum for it. I recall having town feels from them based on that, but tbh it was awhile ago. | ||
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I was serious about this: On December 24 2015 22:46 Tictock wrote: Wow this game has grown to epic proportions. /in My only condition: I refuse to tryhard this game. So I'm still ok with lynching Ness but I don't think Vivax is a good lynch anymore. Art's case on Obi is pretty good I think, I also know I don't know how to read Obi and he swore to never play with me after mislynching me in New Personalities. I'm not at all sure about HF kus I've never played with the guy but I wouldn't trust him right now. Oh the Kush stuff, yea don't lynch Kush either. Don't know why everyone assumes I should know he outed his smurf in the other game before it got pointed out by HF. | ||
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Gunna do something a lot more fun than read this game now. | ||
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On December 28 2015 18:04 Trfel wrote: I think I want to lynch nooniansoong. "I'm going to try hard to work on read accuracy" -> "No reads for a while" -> Townread on Tictock -> Lots of posting with no effort to solve the game There's really no desire to solve the game, despite him saying early on that he'd try hard to get accurate reads. The suspicions from his first post weren't followed up on at all, either. The number of posts that he made about the game without saying anything at all (his posts show that he knows he isn't doing anything) is remarkable. Furthermore, the vote on Palmar, without caring to push it, and saying that he's willing to lynch about a dozen people for a policy lynch, seems very mafia-motivated. He's leaving his options open for later and not committing to anything. Given how Kush played last game as town I'm not surprised by a lot of what you are calling him out for here. His vote on Palmar is... meek? though, you have a point there. Last game I remember Kush throwing his vote out early and without giving a shit. | ||
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On December 28 2015 18:35 Trfel wrote: I checked his filter from last game. It seemed remarkably different from this one. However, last game I checked MoosyDoosy's previous game and felt it was remarkably different from it, and he was town anyway, so I'm just bad. Meta aside.... It's mostly that nooniansoong doesn't seem to care about solving the game, but there are strange contrasts in his posting. Not having time to make reads but having time to talk a bunch about useless stuff. Seeming to care enough to tell people how to play, but at the same time spending several posts arguing about his "I have no reasons to think anything about this person at all". And that he seems to know more about the game than he lets on ("ObiWanShinobi looks scummy for similar reasons as Tictock"), but still doesn't actually care about the lynch at all. Remarkably is an overstatement but otherwise I agree there is a difference, bleh meta though. I'm gunna sleep/think on this though kus you're making pretty decent points. Only thing is why would he bother as mafia to poke a sleeping Palmar when there are much easier wagons or throwaway votes? | ||
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On December 28 2015 19:31 ExO_ wrote: Morning Ladies and Gents. Read through the pages I missed at the end of last night. I feel like overall we've really stalled out. I really think we should consider lynching an inactive, such as BF TickTock is okay (and the way he just ignores shining's case on him doesn't sit well with me) but I would still rather take out the trash and people who aren't here in the thread trying to help are better than lynching someone who is actively talking on day 1. Speaking of people not talking, here comes Palmar. Calls me town, and that's about it. Really fucking easy thing for a scum to do, walk into the thread and call a town a town. If this is all we get from Palmar, I think its scummy as hell. I assume you mean Rit's case, which I am ignoring Also Palmar seems pretty likely town imo, post he just made is some solid thinking | ||
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I should care, but I don't. I expect lots of rage from people when I flip. I still won't care. | ||
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On December 28 2015 23:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Any particular reason why? I'm not sure this quote means much and I'm pretty vain about stuff like that. I agreed with your post there. That's about it. | ||
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On December 28 2015 23:58 Holyflare wrote: Well if perchance you are town then the people that aren't following a good case of vivax does shit all as mafia early in the game and we should pressure him generally have TMI and are mafia themselves, there is 0 reason to not form a wagon on you to make you do stuff unless they are scared to look out of place and are mafia. This doesn't really track at all, there is also 0 reason why Mafia wouldn't jump on an easy wagon with solid reasons. Especially when you said you'd give free townreads for voting with you. People not voting Vivax being mafia is most likely if Vivax is mafia, not if he is town. Though tbh this is not a solid metric either way, so the fact you keep talking in absolutes about it is kinda odd HF. | ||
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I'm kinda trying to get caught up but idk if I will get it done in time, kus screw spending 2 hours of my day on this trying to defend myself like I've had to do last 2 games (as both alignments btw). Least my theory that I don't get townreads unless I shit out effort is being proven. | ||
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On December 29 2015 06:54 The Shining wrote: Because he showed signs of wanting to lynch my 1st largest scumread, which gives me doubts and makes me hesitate on both. And my 1st largest scumread AFKd the game after martyring and is voting an un-CCd JK, even though that JK unclaimed and now I just don't know anymore. I guess I'd rather not be wrong on either and since TT is around, I'm interested in what he'll come up with before DL You're gunna be dissapointed, I effectively gave up. Town is gunna lynch me and call be bad for days. | ||
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GB... though I haven't really seen Rels post so I don't really know. From the couple of TS posts I read he's town. Rsoul is right about GB's tone. Last 2 games as town he played something like I've been this game. But here GB is being rather diplomatic and trying to sound reasonable. When Town!GB was trying to lynch me in Haunted he was being pretty unreasonable spouting shit like "Give me my lynch!" and "I wanna be right!" Though outside of your question I prob wouldn't lynch him for that alone. | ||
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Though ya, you are right, which is why I'm not actually scum reading GB for that. | ||
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*Shrug* | ||
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Gave up, last 20~ pages unread Since I'm about to die they will remain that way too. There is stuff I should talk about but I'd rather let the FU hit you all in the face later. | ||
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On December 29 2015 07:17 Koshi wrote: TT, please dont tell me you think you don't deserve to be lynched? I'm thinking I shouldn't have signed up for this game. I haven't tried very hard, but does that really mean I should be lynched? What have I actually done that is scummy? | ||
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Up untill now I have been reading shit. The post rayn keeps going on about was me explaining earlier reads and it should not be hard to figuer out. Like the fact that some of you assume people getting things mixed up/or missing a post or w/e is proof that they are not reading is bullshit. Happens to everyone, all the time and is never a reason to push people. Mafia are totally more likely to fact check themselves before posting because they don't want to give people easy things to push on. | ||
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On December 29 2015 07:22 ritoky wrote: there's 2 cases on you which you gave 0 fucks addressing, you should know very clearly. plus you're sitting here saying idgaf instead of trying to find and lynch mafia. Because the few attempts I've given to finding mafia have been met with wagons on me. Like literally as soon as I start posting my thoughts in these games I get jumped on, because it isn't enough or it doesn't make sense. I don't care anymore. Lynch me, bitch at me, call me bad, blame me for not trying (even though I sorta have been). It's just a game and one I haven't been enjoying. So sorry I bothered to be a part of it. | ||
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He came into the game asking a bunch of questions, and didn't try to gauge peoples responses to get reads. I know people never answered his questions, but they still reacted and he didn't try to think through those reactions. The stuff I posted before was him being super wishywashy about someone being mafia, then saying SL was mafia for "resons he didn't want to state" or w/e then 2 min later explains his scum read on him. There was other stuff like how he reacted to my joke post about GB's mafia claim, his inability to grasp the joke about voting moosey early on, how he got all butthurt when us mean TL people are all on him (though I can sorta sympathize, lol). You are another scumlean HF, but I'm not sure I have much more than a gut feeling behind it. Rayn was a tinfoil earlier but I think he's town and he normally hates my play so him being all over me for most of today is nothing new. GB is maybe scum, but prob not. Idk. Still not sure about Kush, the stuff Trfel said still rings true but he's also trying to defend me so I don't want to kill him. Obv there's tons of people I'm not touching on, but the sands are running low... | ||
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On December 29 2015 07:38 sicklucker wrote: well whatever tt is getting lynched on to the next one  | ||
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On December 29 2015 07:43 Holyflare wrote: not particularly, tt posted some semblance of a read post last page which I didn't hate the start of but then disliked the rest it just looks like he's read the first 10 pages of the game and has no new info until the last 3 or 4 pages of the game imo Fuck you for your assumptions about my reading. Like you and rayn both are just asshats doing that. | ||
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I'd still like to lynch Ness but for last ditch effort to not die here (LOL) I'll ##Vote: Rels | ||
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I'm laughing. | ||
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It's Yolo time! Prob not gunna happen though | ||
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I did try a little. Some of you I'm not sorry to... | ||
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I thought for sure I was dead there kus of HF switching back to me. On December 29 2015 08:11 nooniansoong wrote: I hate shenanigans.. I really wanted to see that tt flip. There is always tomorrow! | ||
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*grumbles* | ||
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On December 29 2015 08:21 Holyflare wrote: Not really true they just cause shenanigans and line up an extra town lynch the next day for free? Mafia can do whatever they want if it's a two town lynch tbh. This is pretty true actually, can confirm based on my last game. | ||
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On December 29 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey tictock. D2 just claim jailkeeper and then unclaim. Noone will ever remember they thought you were scum and you can continue sayong whatever you want. Good lynch boyz! Keep it up! Lol is that what Vivax did? I only read his claim You can rest assured that if I didn't fake claim as scum last game to save my ass I'm not gunna do it here as an easy way out of being scum read. | ||
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On December 29 2015 08:22 GlowingBear wrote: HAHAHA SURE HF LET'S KEEP THAT GUY ALIVE FOR MORE TIME ROFL Why not? I'm likely to keep posting and reading the game. Besides you're being silly that HF and I could be on a team and he tried to get me killed during super last min shenanigans. | ||
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On December 29 2015 08:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I love how I'm on both of Hf's lists. Psst They were the same list minus 2 people | ||
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On December 29 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: First of all there is this: This post is non-commital as hell. There is the read on Koshi that is never going to be warranted at this point of the game. There is just no way TT thinks Koshi is town here. No. Then the GB read. If TT thinks GB is town for his posting why does he feel the need to tell he doesn't necessarily actually think GB is town? It's like... he is in the both sides of his own argument... Let's see what he says about Ness and noonian then: Now the first thing TT says makes sense. But the quotes he bring up don't make any sense at all because he doesn't even explain what is scummy in them. I personally don't find anything scummy in them. TT townreads Exo himself, why does he bring up a quote where Ness calls Exo town? Why is it scummy Ness finds sicklucker most likely mafia? Why is it scummy that he townreads GB now? This chain of quotes --> Ness is mafia doesn't make any sense because the quotes are logical and there is no contradiction in them. Then he calls kush scum for the smurf thing when it has already been explained when and how kush blew his smurf, which makes this post.. ... a very bad defense. Not only was he not reading the thread when he made the kush read, he is also not even trying to understand what happens in the thread at any point. Look at the defense, seriously, it is so stupid i can't even..... Another instance of this is this one: Look at this post and what i say there in comparison to why TT called Ness mafia. Does it look like he "pointed out what i did before"????? Fucking no! First of all we are talking about completely different things (well i don't even know what TT is talking about because he is just quoting some posts and not explaining what there is there). He possibly cannot talk about same thing i do because what i am talking about happened mostly after TT had made his post about Ness!!!! Therefore it's literally impossible he is talking about the same thing i am (or that he thinks so) -- it's just fucking impossible he thinks so. So, again, this is just a half-assed try to defend himself based NOT on why he did what he did but instead due to some association to his posting that could possibly look similar (when it even doesn't -- and he fucking should know that). So yeah, there it is. Also go read ritoky's case. Here: + Show Spoiler + On December 28 2015 15:41 ritoky wrote: So basically TT made some bullshit read progression last game on a new player that he totally never makes as town. basically he made an awakward joke then randomly backed out of a town read over literal nothing and over-explained why he did so. He hasn't quite done that this game, but he has some elements going on. Like is this a joke or is it serious? Normally I just assume this is 100% a joke, but GB is one of those assholes who would claim scum as scum or claim cop as cop just to dick around. He would also do both as VT for the same reason. So it very well could be him using some meta and taking it actually serious. And if it is not serious then it isn't really funny and it is a shitty joke...shitty jokes actually tend more toward scum. Bold #1: Firstly I just disagree with this pretty strongly. Secondly, his eventual reason for this read is "you ask questions and then don't conclude things" (which btw after this post you don't really do either of those things) which is the most vague and gray goo accusation of a new player ever. It feels like you pulled it out of a box. Bold #2: This is the part that really blows my mind. Why the fuck koshi? Of all people, why koshi? I say this ENTIRELY because of the last game. To give you context: in nutcracker koshi opened the game with the literal exact same post basically and attempted to hold to it; after approximately 12 hours he crumbled and started spamming the thread (or the equiv of spamming in a post limit game). #1) If you're going to base your read off of koshi making the same play shouldn't you actually wait until a proper amount of time has passed for koshi to explode and fail at being quiet or succeed and then make your judgment from then on? #2) koshi had been fairly calm (for his standards) up until kinda recently where he posted some more which is the OPPOSITE of what happened in the last game. So I have a very hard time grasping this read, because I can only assume there is some meta behind it since koshi was nowhere near the most town in the thread from a play perspective. Like either you think koshi got better at being quiet and is town (in which case how the fuck did you make this read so fast?) or this read is manufactured. Bold #3: If the above was serious and based on meta (which to me this post kinda indicates it slightly was) then you backed out of a meta read about GB claiming scum super easy and at a time when I don't really think he deserved it in the slightest. In fact GB was pretty fucking scummy early and I think he still has a solid chance of flipping scum. To me this part is weaker than the koshi part, but still scum indicative. Basically it is simple: he is not reading and doesn't care. Multiple points in the thread and the pages surrounding this, kush, rayn, and hf had all mentioned that kush was a smurf who admitted he was a smurf because he couldn't log on his original name from work. It is mentioned quite a few times, but TT agrees with the read made initially that kush = scum cuz admitting smurfing = nonsense. But he keeps standing by it in the face of facts. Facts that he hadn't read because he didn't care about making an informed read. It is only when I quote it for him a bit later that he says "oh". Also when your read goes from he admitted he was a smurf -> oh, nothing after 1 correction of facts....and it is your most prominent read; clearly he isn't interested in finding scum. Like this, he is just shitting on someone's town read, but even in shitting on it he is being wishy-washy about shitting on it. However after dumping on it he provides nothing of his own. No indication of direction or wanting people to get on board with him lynching Ness. He simply shits to shit. I don't see how posts like this push town in any positive direction. Like where are you trying to find scum? Where are you gathering information? Where are you showing you're reading the thread? Where are you trying to get people to understand your point of view? You're doing none of that, so you're probably just mafia. Ouch is right. Currently I think TT is a better lynch than Vivax. Vivax is nibbling at the edges while actively reading which annoys me greatly and also engaging in riddles before gameplay which also frustrates me, but he has some LS in him....and that kinda makes me a pussy about it. ##unvote: ##vote: TickTock After, and aside those things that have been pointed out in his play, he hasn't done jack shit. There is not a single analysis on anything, people are just town for no reason, he doesn't care about what some people say, or he wants to lynch lurkers (and obviously the dude who is voting for him and has been cased with a bad case). There, now you can place your votes accordingly. So this case by rayn is basically "I dont understand what TT is saying or doing and is thus scum" The fact that this comes from Rayn should be fairly good evidence that I'm town. + Show Spoiler + Ok to semi respond: Sure I can townread Koshi there, I did. GB read is the same thing people always push me on when I talk about reads I'm not sure on. I posted 3 posts of Ness. One he flippantly writes off trying to read Exo with a gif trying to act like it's non of his buisness, saying he might be town or mafia. He also gives a "just cause" read on Sl, then immediately backs it up with "reasons" Those posts furthered the idea that he wasn't really trying to make reads on people or think about the game, and the post regarding Exo was just one example of him going "well maybe they are town or mafia, not my problem" Rayn said he couldn't understand my reads post he quoted first here, yet he had the exact same reaction to Kush revieling his smurf that I did, and later questioned Ness for very similar things that I was seeing. The shit about me not reading kus of Kush's smurf I already responded to and is just not true. I wouldn't sign up for a game I didn't intend to make some effort to read, and I would read things twice as carefully if I were scum. Just kus I don't see things or react to things the same as you do doesn't mean I'm not reading. Rit's case was basically the same besides some bull that me disagreeing with a read is me "shitting on it" But you guys are still welcome to lynch me tomorrow for the same stuff kus I'm unlikely to change how I'm playing this game. (this was prob a max lv effort post from me) | ||
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On December 29 2015 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: HOW THE FUCK IS THERE A SINGLE THING I MISUNDERSTAND IN TT'S POSTING`?!?!?! What the fuck are you talking about. You didn't misunderstand, but rather than try to see what I might have been talking about you just attack me for not making sense. It's cool, I expect that from you. | ||
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On December 29 2015 02:54 Holyflare wrote: Yup classic GB fake mafia anger. Not only are your points illogical (I couldn't have made Vivax claim, I said I don't really want to lynch Ness straight away after etc etc) but they are ones that you yourself FOLLOW IN SENTIMENT. Let's look at this post as a classic example of a wtf he's mafia moment. GB is calling me out for: A) Being suspicious of Vivax which is weird as fuck because: B) Being suspicious of TickTock: C) Being suspicious of N E S S: D) Being suspicious of Kush: -absent because GB has been afk for ages- So, what do we see here ladies and gentleman? Glowingbear is accusing me of calling all his mafia reads mafia and then using it to call me mafia. /case get rekt GB This actually leads me to thinking GB is prob Town. HF sounds like he agrees. So I think GB is lock town. | ||
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On December 29 2015 02:56 Holyflare wrote: This has actually invigorated my passion to find the rest of his team, thank you GB. Yea HF is prob mafia. A lot of his posts have been more on the discrediting angle of things. Here he is talking like he's just proven GB is mafia when I'm pretty sure he just showed why GB is likely town. He's also spent all game so for mostly focusing on inactive people and easy targets. | ||
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On December 29 2015 03:48 ExO_ wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 28 2015 16:04 Tictock wrote: I'm sure this got brought up, but SL you missed Vivax last game as barely present mafia. He's also not as enthusiastic as he was in the town game you are referencing here. Somewhere in-between I'd say. + Show Spoiler + Re-looking at TT's filter, these posts were back-back. He tells SL that he missed Vivax as mafia in the previous game, implying that Vivax could be a mafia sliding by this game, but then says to keep me around for not wanting to get rid of Vivax? It doesn't make sense. Am I misreading it or? Either way I think I might be more inclined to go back to TT Misreading. Post about you doesn't really have anything to do with Vivax. Was more how you were forming an opinion there rather than how you were reading Vivax or BF for that matter. | ||
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I'm thinking there is a strong chance that mafia are going for a "shit-up-the-thread" strategy to create a lot of terrible content and bickering to read through. Problem is that I'm sure there are at least a couple of town participating in it as well. Hopefully nightkills and actions will help clear some things up. | ||
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On December 29 2015 10:47 ExO_ wrote: ....I took a nap thinking TT was a lynch lock. WTF happened? This is some bullshit. Fucking great job whoever turned the wagon off TT Rels did a great job, he deserves a medal. | ||
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On December 29 2015 11:20 Holyflare wrote: Um what an earth are you actually talking about? Why does that post scream that GB is town to you? I'm literally stating in that post that GB has the same scum reads as me but he's calling me mafia but somehow your take away from the post is that I'm mafia for going after afkers. If you think GB is town and he has the same scum reads then why am I mafia for having those scum reads? How does that post not constitute a case instead of "discrediting"? I think/still think it's good. It screams GB townthinking to me. And your tone was more "haha, proved you wrong GB!" not "Fuck you are so scum GB!" which made me think you kinda know he is town but had something solid to push. Tbh the rest of that interaction between you two has me scratching my head a lot more than the start of it. I'm also probably not giving you a fair read, but my gut doesn't like a lot of what it's seen. | ||
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On December 29 2015 11:35 nooniansoong wrote: Scumlist. Tomorrow I'm going to read some of these filters. 3. Onegu 5. sicklucker 7. damdred 8. Waylanner (replaced by ObviousOne) 9. Exo_ 10. Koshi 11. Ritoky 13. Mooseeeeeeeeydooseeeeeey 14. Boxerfred 17. Trfel 18. ObiWanShinobi 19. The Shining 20. Palmar 21. Tictock 22. n e s s 24. Alakaslam I thought I was probably town in your eyes. What changed? | ||
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On December 29 2015 11:47 Holyflare wrote: Answer my post on the last page please. Also you're the person with the most information on what happened at the deadline so can you please explain or look at it? My interpritation was that Rels said he's basically read the game but gave no opinions and sheeped Rayn. Which is pretty shit play from Rels and I never really saw him give explanations for him not being here. So I suggested we switch to Rels as a last ditch effort to not die and since nobody wanted to lynch Ness. Apparently enough people agreed (Damdred said the stuff about Rels better than I btw) and thus things happened. You swapped back to me rather suddenly, but I'm not sure that's alignment indicative since it was Town v Town. Before that everyone was just fine lynching me. | ||
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On December 27 2015 11:39 Holyflare wrote: Kush hasn't revealed anything, he has already said his smurf name pre-game in the Newbie game: Came after I posted that first reads post. When I responded with this later, it was to explain where my reads came from. On December 27 2015 12:10 Tictock wrote: You kus you posted a bunch of questions to everyone but haven't really used peoples responses to further reads. Also these: Noonian mostly kus of the smurf thing. So yes my reaction was more or less the same as yours untill that information was availible. On December 27 2015 11:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: No. Its actually his problem. Abd by blowing your smurf you earned my vote. Shit. Cheap. Crap. Die. And yes, the same shit you were questioning Ness about is why I posted those 2 quotes Ness made about SL. No it was not 100% exactly the same thing, but honestly it seems to me like we were picking up on the same shit from him. Like 3/5 of the points you made in that post can be traced back to the posts I quoted when I said "these are what I'm scum reading you for" I don't really care if believe me, but from my perspective we've actually had very similar trains of thought regarding both Kush and Ness. So I think it's stupid that you scum read me for those reads. | ||
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On December 29 2015 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: And we should fucking murder Vivax straight up. Just fucking lynch him. He is either jailkeeper or he is mafia, there is no other option. If he does not die during the night we lynch him, period. There is more than black and white rayn. If there wasn't these games would be boring as fuck. I never understand why you have to think in absolutes. | ||
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On December 29 2015 17:03 ritoky wrote: yo TT, can you give a read on every single person who switched to save you. thanx gurl. Holy shit, what do I look like? A guy who's trying here? I'll do it before EoN but you better be happy with w/e you get. | ||
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On December 29 2015 17:04 ritoky wrote: so that list is: ritoky, koshi, palmar, SL, trfel, rsoul, shining, damdred Oh wait this is easy Rit - 70% chance of being town Koshi - 80%, though tbf I have no idea what Koshi is like as Scum so he shouldn't get a pass palmar - humm 75% SL - 52%, something about the way he's been pushing things D1 felt off to me. Like there was no clear focus but a lot of this "lets lynch someone unreadable, but X and Y person get 2 free days" talk. Idk felt a little off. trfel - gut says Town but I might be slightly buddied kus of a few things Rsoul - Honestly no clue Shining - I think town, I doubt the whole "I'm unsure of TT kus he's voting my main scumread" thing comes from mafia not really on my radar though Damdred - town 99%, I see a lot of towntells plus very similar attitude to last game. | ||
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On December 29 2015 17:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ahh okay i understand the kush thing now. You should have said that earlier, i didn't think you were explaining your earlier reasoning and not saying like "i still think kush is mafia"... Let me look for something real quick... I thought I did. Meh. | ||
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On December 29 2015 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is no way Palmar does neither of: (1) stay on TicTock when having claimed to sheep me (2) vote Vivax after unclaim ..as town. There is just no way and it makes Palmar 100% mafia. Is part of this meta? Kus I'm not sure why he couldn't just be agreeing with some of the stuff people were posting and realized he had only enough time to change vote and not really post in game ( I should prob look at EoD again though) | ||
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On December 29 2015 17:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: meh you blew it..... did you see tictock saying "i have no idea what rsoultin's alignment is". ugh this is so fucking annoying... i like want to believe TT is town because it makes the shit a lot easier but i fucking can't when he again proves he is not reading the thread.... Lol why does me not having a clue about Rsoul's alignment mean I'm not reading? I've played... one game with her I think? | ||
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I took it all with a grain of salt and never saw them really come out and say they were maybe I missed it. | ||
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On December 29 2015 17:25 ritoky wrote: no they claimed, she made a giant multi-paragraph post about why she did it too. Ah ok, now you can confirm me not reading then. Well then I give even less of a shit that she voted Rels with a lot of us. | ||
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On December 29 2015 17:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah.. Was that because Exo yelled for pages that rsoultin needs to confirm she is mason with Coag by telling in the mason QT his username and the other forum they have played and Coag did confirm that. Or did you forget about this all too? Nah I read all that, and Rsoul couldn't remember what Exo's name was from the other site. Turned out to be SilentButterflies or summin. I thought Exo revealed his name before Coag posted it in game, and after Rsoul talked abut being embarrassed she couldn't remember it past SB | ||
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On December 29 2015 17:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: can confirm. he can get vigged too. he is basically mislynch number one if he is town and therefore +1 scum. I kinda agree with this assesment. I'd lean on him being town atm, but he'd 100% abuse his self meta all day everyday if he thinks it will work. He's also been playing games elsewhere (I think) so expect his play to have changed since he first started playing here. | ||
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On December 29 2015 18:16 ExO_ wrote: Ritoky care to explain: this is exactly what just happened. You called it, and yet you still switched. (I'm currently on page 93, but if you switched after saying this there better be a damn good explanation) This has happened D1 in the last 3 games I played. Huanted Mansion - I was Town Nutcraker - I was Mafia And now here. Though I'm amazed that Rels actually got lynched over me. It's funny you said "swapped in a couple hours" in an earlier post kus it was more a matter of minuets that it all went down. | ||
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On December 29 2015 18:49 ExO_ wrote: yes it was. I went to sleep about 2 hours before EoD, which is why I said a couple of hours. This whole thing went down so suddenly. So I'll walk you through where I'm at right now: Palmar just switched out of the blue. No explanation. I want one. Koshi's vote change seems suspect to me as well. I don't see why he did it. Damdred's vote change is shitty, but at least he was talking about rel prior to the last second vote swapping Ritoky literally calls that if TT is scum he'll come in and talk at the last second and get it switched to someone else. Then helps this precise thing to happen. What the fuck. I could keep going but basically everyone flip flopped without explaining why. I get that it was last second but it seems fucked up. Damdred is the only person that I see that showed interest in rels before hand. So what I'm sitting here trying to figure out, is what motivation does mafia team have to make all of these vote shenanigans happen if TT isn't scum? I can't come up with anything that is super reasonable. If TT is mafia, then I can understand the last second vote switching (giving very little time for reaction/discussion.) I think it's possible mafia saw damdred and somebody else say rels and ran a gamble to pull votes off TT. But it all hinges on TT being mafia. If he isn't then I'm at a bit of a loss. I think TT should be our next lynch (at least for now) because if he is mafia it'll really help to clear things up, and if he isn't mafia it'll at least provide more information to work with. The other thing I'm really struggling with, is HF jumping onto the TT wagon at the end. Is he scum trying to earn a bit of town cred by saying he tried to save the mislynch, or is he town actually trying to prevent a last second vote swap off a target that he himself didn't think was worth voting for. idk, was such a stupid vote switch and it's messing with my ability to think it through :/ This post feels off to me. If there is mafia bussing me like you seem to be assuming, why would they wait till last min to seriously start a wagon on someone else? Especially given that it would have been far easier to follow Rayn back onto Vivax much earlier or something. + Show Spoiler + Honestly I don't think mafia would ever need to bus a teammate D1 in a game like this. Hell me and Tube carried Vivax into D3 with a <2page filter last game. Despite my deep desire to bus the shit out of him. Why is it impossible I'm town and so were most of the people pulling shenannies? Rit also explained why he switched, but you still seem to be upset with him. Did you not like his reasoning? Making a mental note to reread your filter tomorrow. You've had some skewed thinking this game. | ||
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On December 30 2015 08:21 Onegu wrote: Red Check on TT Thanks onegu, now I can just read along at my leasure and not worry about these 20 new pages. Lynch Onegu when I flip miller. | ||
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Still, lynch Onegu when I flip. There is no way his claim is legit. | ||
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Lynch me if you need to, but Onegu is 100% mafia. | ||
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I hate claims. Lynch me to prove it I can't pass out anymore guns after this either way. | ||
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On December 30 2015 08:51 ritoky wrote: "I gave a gun to ritoky because..." finish the claim if you're gonna do it. Was pretty sure you were town but weren't likely to die. Somehow i doubt anyone likes my reasoning. | ||
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I played like shit, I deserve it. Gunna for reactions to my flip, but we have to wait almost 72 hours... Lame. | ||
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I'm not gunna bother to try and show that both Onegu and Damdred are lying here when. I can do that far more effectively and with much less effort on my part by simply dying here. Though tbh I'm confused why damdred is fake claiming here. I guess he really wants me dead? So yea, solid info from my flip def outweighs the last gun I have to give imo. | ||
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On December 30 2015 18:32 ritoky wrote: I am having trouble grasping this. It's been nearly half a day and almost every player has been to the thread and posted at least once; so the # of people who a CC to onegu could come from is extremely limited. Further if someone CC's onegu in the final hours, it is just awful play....like really bad; but beyond that it doesn't explain TT getting CC'd on top of the red check by damdred. On top of that TT not claiming GS under impending lynch yesterday makes no sense at all. He will claim under red check but not under imminent death? What? It would take one helluva last minute CC to cause shenanies. Plus as of now I am shooting palmar which was what rayn and i had been saying all night before checks and cc's happened. I didn't want to claim. + Show Spoiler [Stuff you wont believe till later] + My dumbass decided to post "Lynch Onegu when I flip miller" Rather than just "...when I flip" At least I'm glad I gave the gun to you kus I'm certain your town based off stuff today. I almost gave it to Damdred. My EoD posts did have a lot of "You all are gunna be mad at me when I die" stuff. My perspective right now is that Rayn/Art were onto something with Vivax/Palmar. At least one of them is scum imo and prob an important role. Only reason it makes sense to have 2 people fake claims to get me lynched today. Onegu is prob goon and doesn't have much time so is making the 1v1 trade for me. Damdred Idk about. I'm fairly sure Onegu wouldn't fakeclaim on me outta the blue like this as town. There is some faint tinfoil ideas about Damdred faking a claim as town to get me lynched, it makes sense for him to be convinced I'm mafia here. Like it's a really stupid play for scum!Damdred to fake claim GS to get me lynched when there is already a red check on me. I'd still put money on SL being scum this game as well, possibly still Ness and Kush. Ness I'm honestly thinking might have legit stormed off from the game though... though I think that's more likely to happen is he's scum here feeling caught rather than a town who just felt under pressure. Idk be interesting to gauge his return. | ||
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On December 30 2015 19:29 Koshi wrote: tt, I don't know if you are retarded. But you do understand that the only way you aren't fucking mafia is if Ness it the DT right? I haven't been keeping track. Since Damdred claimed GS it seems best for the real cop to not claim actually. You guys lynch me I flip GS and you all get to lynch Onegu the next day and debate about Damdred. Cop could easily make it a few more days at this rate. | ||
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On December 30 2015 19:29 Koshi wrote: tt, I don't know if you are retarded. But you do understand that the only way you aren't fucking mafia is if Ness it the DT right? And yea I prob am this game. | ||
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On December 30 2015 19:38 ritoky wrote: I need you to explain to me some things: 1) Why claim today when red checked but not yesterday when 7 minutes from lynch? 2) Why is onegu mafia? (other than I am GS and he claimed red) 3) Elaborate on your damdred tinfoil theories; he claimed your role, why isn't he mafia? 4) Why should I believe you when there's an uncc'd cop with a red check? This is why claims are weird. You shouldn't, but I know you should... Also why I'm inclined to listen to Koshi and stop posting | ||
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On December 30 2015 19:38 ritoky wrote: I need you to explain to me some things: 1) Why claim today when red checked but not yesterday when 7 minutes from lynch? + Show Spoiler + I claim before lynch, I get RB'd and never get to pass out a shot. Also after Vivax had done his stuff I didn't think claiming would help my position much. Today I still didn't want to claim, but there is no way Onegu has a red check on me, and I don't think he'd fake a red check as town. The rest was shoddy posting while at work and digging my own hole into feeling I had to claim. 2) Why is onegu mafia? (other than I am GS and he claimed red) + Show Spoiler + Onegu is not the easiest guy to read, but when he is town he usually posts semi-nonsense and likes to aggrivate Koshi. My usual way of reading Onegu is how much he's trying to guide things, as town he's a non-factor and does his own shit. Here I think there is a marked difference in his posting. He votes Koshi right off but instead goes off a lot about Rsoul and Coag. He makes a semi push on SL and This post will be interesting if/when he flips mafia because he seems to have a bit of an agenda going on. I also don't believe for a moment that town!Onegu would fake a red check to get someone he has no read on to get them lynched. If he were super tunneled on me maybe, but he mentioned me till today 3) Elaborate on your damdred tinfoil theories; he claimed your role, why isn't he mafia? + Show Spoiler + I'm not sure I can. It's more me having a hard time believing scum!Damdred would put himself on the line like that, unless scum REALLY want me dead. 4) Why should I believe you when there's an uncc'd cop with a red check? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + you should absolutely lynch me. But you guys are not hitting mafia, sorry. | ||
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Anyways prob my last post before I get lynched. Not sure Palmar is mafia, but he does seem to have know that I was town D1 rather easily, and it seems odd to me that he'd make that last post of his as town. Most town should be fairly convinced I'm mafia atm, but he doesn't. Trfel kinda did a total 180 and that post where he said to lynch me even if all the other claims were retracted didn't make much sense from town imo. I gave other opinions and shit but I figuer even after my flip you will largely ignore them... And rightly so, I've been a moron this game. You guys still have a solid chance here eve if I was stupid and gave scum!Rit a gun (don't think thats the case though). Stay the course, lynch me and if town looses I'm to blame. | ||
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On January 02 2016 07:46 sicklucker wrote: tictock if you somehow are town and didnt fight here your a very sad player because both dandred/onegu have faked claimed in this spot before as town and there is alot of wifmo Same thing happened last day in Personalities, which Damdred was in and should remember that I didn't fight my lynch there either. But yea this has been a uber-shit teir game from me, shouldn't have signed up kus I never even intended to do as much as I have. | ||
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Yea really suprised people took the one burst of activity from palmar and his case on GB and decided he was town for the rest of the game, and then not lynching Onegu... But w/e Sorry again for my throw. | ||
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On January 17 2016 08:45 Rels wrote: Meh Gunsmith is a vanilla town after D2 You being gunsmith meant you could play as bad as you humanly wanted and still be confirmed town if mafia doesn't 1v1 you The correct play for town after your claim was to not lynch you and wait D3, where the real gunsmith if there is one would claim (since he has already given his two guns, he s only a named vt now) Damdred fucked up super badly counter claiming you when there was a way to confirm you Yea i was planning to do pretty much that, claim D3 after my guns were out. In regards to exo's post. I don't think claiming to save myself D1 has any value over being mislynched tbh. I'm sure we can debate that but if I claimed D1 my role is useless and I def get shot that night anyways. Saying I was miller was retarted and I just wasn't thinking when I said that. If you take out that one word my reaction doesn't seem nearly as bad. Besides it was pretty clear that I had no interest in fighting my lynch either day which imo should have been a pretty good tell that I was town, but I can understand that other stuff stood out more. | ||
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On January 17 2016 08:57 Damdred wrote: Anyway it's my fault I'll take the blame. Gg scum team. I'm sorry town. I understand why you fake claimed. I think it was uneccesary though kus I was getting lynvhed regardless. Obv my fualt, not yours. | ||
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