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On November 03 2015 08:21 Fecalfeast wrote: Ugh, if I in I would have to get up before noon If this is about missing the deadline don't worry just join and miss every deadline like I plan to. | ||
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Sorry I've got exams soon, probably shouldn't try juggle mafia and study | ||
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On November 11 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote: Eh, screw exams. /in so tempting | ||
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On November 12 2015 23:16 NocturneMage wrote: Eversince predicting I'm rolling mafia.....oh the horror xD Eh, I learnt from my first newbie here. If I have to take mafia again, so be it. Eversince, Breshke, Trfel or anyone else here who are students....what are you all studying? I'm just curious. I'm doing Civil and structural Engineering which will hopefully not be as hard to get a job from when i finish my degree as it is now. Trfel I will attempt to make useful posts this game and hold hands and preach love but i'm not making any promises. Especially about the useful posts bit. | ||
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On November 15 2015 14:22 Eversince wrote: Wells feller's, I'm goin' to be real loopy and incoherent for this game. Bonus is that I'll have copious amounts of free time! Granted I don't spend all off it it snoozing. I officially ran over my left foot for a second time with somethin' that weighed over 2.5t! This time it pushed the 5 medal rods previously place out through the back of me heel. Giving this as an ahead of warnin'. I'll be as manageable as possible, lynch me if I don't, but don't auto lynch me if I make zero sense. Or do. Either way, I'll be over there somehwre on Pluto enjoy now! Reading this makes me feel pain | ||
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Eversince you said the shining is suspicious does that mean you scum read him? | ||
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1. You make this post On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote: 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: Farahblackwing Soooo mafia. Lynch today! 2. On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote: I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after. I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him. Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game. The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?) 3. On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote: To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with. Farah town reads him regardless. This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining. He had not even posted yet. Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out! Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment? | ||
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On November 16 2015 10:09 disformation wrote: Breshke you still around? What do you think of Eversince's answers to your questions? questions be here:+ Show Spoiler + On November 16 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote: Eversince can you explain this a little for me I am having trouble understanding. 1. You make this post 2. The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?) 3. Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment? answers be here:+ Show Spoiler + On November 16 2015 07:15 Eversince wrote: 1. Yeh, 2. It was in reference to my first post. 3. No I don't think Farah is mafia at this point. Her early play I took as play, and she's done nothin' else to make me consider her as mafia. The only thing she's done is question me on something I did. I answered her. And she responded to me. I liked it. On November 16 2015 07:20 Eversince wrote: Ohhh I think I mis-understood point 3. I had to explain it because The Shining is poking at me for poking at Farah. I was only tryin' for cheap laughs, said as much, and still am being painted black because I said it. So I spelled it out as simply as I could understand how to. Showing my thoughts and reasoning for why I did what I did... Kind of town lean mor like a I don't scum read him now for it.. I got a bit confused and thought eversince was trying to defend their read with that third quote but as explained that was't the case and I can understand wanting to not be hassled over a joke you make in one of your first few posts. I don't think Shining is mafia for getting all nit picky though because I actually think his confidence early On November 16 2015 05:58 The Shining wrote: You're just mad that my first scum win was against you while I was super lurky. It's OK, I understand. Please explain what you mean by not pointed? I'm asking questions to flesh out my reads, since nothing else is happening for me to read/react on. Also, since you bring up my posting frequency, you should know that my activity depends heavily on what day of the week it is and how busy work is. I almost never have time to play on Monday/Tuesday and today is Sunday so I want to get the most out of my playing time today. Like especially this post, the second paragraph is whatever but he had just been getting grilled by VE and then geript comes in saying he doesn't like him as well and he taunts him. Seems kind of suicidal if he was mafia. Is anyone about? | ||
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On November 16 2015 14:32 ritoky wrote: idk about that shining post you quoted there breshke. you're like "second paragraph is whatever"; the second paragraph is an excuse wrapped in self-aware meta. no bueno. plus i don't think he is nitpicky....i think he doesn't care about his reads, he is just giving them out of his ass. Ehh. I disagree . Like the second paragraph didn't need to be there geript specifically was saying he wasn't pinging him out because of how much he was posting like he specifically said he wasn't. So it isn't self aware meta nor was it an excuse because geript wasn't saying he was scum because he was posting a lot. That's why i still liked that post because i just ignored the second paragraph. You could stretch it and say he was being overly defensive there but i think that would be dumb. What other than the trefel read don't you like from him? I know im getting into this defending someone when i shouldnt be territory but meh why stop now. | ||
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On November 17 2015 06:04 Trfel wrote: Breshke, please answer this. NocturneMage, I think I see what you're getting at now. I'd like to see Breshke answer first. To bet totally honest with my short amount of time yesterday and getting sidetracked posting about the shining I kind of forgot that I hadn't given like any reads on the game especially because the reads are really weak. So with Geript if it was just some random would be town reading him because his posts don't feel like structured? Im not sure if that is the ebst way to explain it but his posting feels very care free like he has nothing to hide and he ranked people out of 7 like why 7 idc if this sounds dumb but that's just peculiar and not in a bad way because it draws attention to his reads. The problem is I don't doubt Geripts mafia ability especially after some big game that I don't remember the name where he was mafia. Still would not lynch though. Ritoky is in the same grain as Geript where he is pushing the game forward and I still disagree with him on the shining but I don't think it makes him mafia. Moosy would lynch in a heartbeat. His mafia list is basically people not being talked about to be lynched and he doesn't even try explain his reads. Doesn't really make much sense | ||
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On November 17 2015 07:30 Trfel wrote: Breshke, any thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast? What makes geript's ranking out of 7 post any different from a standard list post? I have no problem with VE's read on FF seems to be a classic " he isn't doing stuff so lynch him". IDK i said it was dumb but people normally do stuff out of 10 or a percent or like out of 5. He did 7 so someone could be like "Why the fuck is it out of 7" and he would need to explain which would bring more attention to his reads etc | ||
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On November 16 2015 21:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Also I'm back! ##Unvote I like the posts since my vote, and it wasn't super cereal anyway as many of you have clearly deduced. Most of the people actively posting I like, I think I dislike Fecal the mostest of anyone who's posted. The super hard townreads on me from geript and ritoky BOTH gave me massive wood. I think geript's might feel a little over-explainy, but I still can't bring myself to find it suspicious. Pocket achieved for both of you. So yeah, unless we're lynching a hard lurker, which I'm always down with, I think I prefer a Fecalfeast lynch. Aside from one townread on Ritoky, I really don't know what Fecal thinks in spite of his actively engaging with the thread. I'd believe GTA if that game weren't so old hat, I think he's just mafia trying to skate by. Trefel the bolded makes me fairly sure all the shining stuff was just pressure. Did he say otherwise? | ||
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FF some content from you would be dandy aswell. | ||
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On November 17 2015 07:38 Trfel wrote: Sorry, I didn't mean your thoughts on VisceraEyes' stance on Fecalfeast, I was looking for your thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast (two separate reads). I don't really understand the whole 7 thing at all. You know that geript is a strong scum player, so why wouldn't he want attention to be paid to his reads? Is geript a player who hides in a corner as mafia? Yes, he did. The VE thing is what im trying to work out now. In a vaccum your case makes sense. But im fairly certain VE's early posting was just pressure. The quote you just pointed out is that not referring to this. On November 16 2015 21:39 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Vote: Fecalfeast JUST IN CASE THERE WAS ANY DOUBT AS TO THE SERIOUSNESS OF MY POST!!!!!! FF's filter isnt actually as bad as i thought so he isn't actually in the same tier as moosy but his play still feels lazy even for him. So would still lynch until he comes back and has a chat. | ||
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On November 17 2015 07:40 NocturneMage wrote: also Breshke, if you can clarify post 466 I'd appreciate it. already did it can quote if needed | ||
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VE can you explain this On November 17 2015 07:18 VisceraEyes wrote: No jokes, I just want like SUPER sure of my vote the way I kept on andargued it. It was a content generation thing. and this On November 16 2015 21:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Also I'm back! ##Unvote I like the posts since my vote, and it wasn't super cereal anyway as many of you have clearly deduced. Most of the people actively posting I like, I think I dislike Fecal the mostest of anyone who's posted. The super hard townreads on me from geript and ritoky BOTH gave me massive wood. I think geript's might feel a little over-explainy, but I still can't bring myself to find it suspicious. Pocket achieved for both of you. So yeah, unless we're lynching a hard lurker, which I'm always down with, I think I prefer a Fecalfeast lynch. Aside from one townread on Ritoky, I really don't know what Fecal thinks in spite of his actively engaging with the thread. I'd believe GTA if that game weren't so old hat, I think he's just mafia trying to skate by. Seems to be saying two different things | ||
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On November 17 2015 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote: ve seems ok now that i'm interacting with him why? | ||
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On November 17 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote: Breshke, take your original read on me and switch it. It has worked 100% of the time in the past. Yes, this is fact. Have you played with sicklucker? I think you two would be friends. Ritoky since VE isn't here and you town read him do you see an explanation for this On November 17 2015 07:51 Breshke wrote: ahh Trefel I just know realized that post wasnt referring to his fecal vote because thats meet to say and argued. VE can you explain this and this Seems to be saying two different things | ||
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On November 17 2015 09:10 FarahBlackwing wrote: I really don't have a defined read on them, FF doesn't have a ton to read on, neither does breshke. Earlier in the day disinformation was a light town read for me (start of the game), but I can't remember much at this point in the way of doing things. Hes asked some questions but not much has come as a result of them that I can see. Like checking up on shining which he still has not done at this point. A large portion of the lynch is people I just don't want to lynch at this point vs people who I just don't have a read on. Neither do I have a preferred lynch at this junction. Why isn't moosey on your list then? | ||
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On November 17 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote: Breshke, who are your scumreads right now? If you'd like to wait for FarahBlackwing to answer first, that's fine. It's mostly less active people. Something is wrong about mooseys outburst like he HAS rolled scum here before he makes it sound like he never has. He also entered a game where its more likely to roll town than mafia and is having a tantrum that he got the more likely option. Also in the game he was mafia he overreacted to rayn dying (not being saved by the doctor) which was obviously fake and this feels a lot like that. So i don't think anyone should be giving him a pass for having a cry. FF still being lazy so would lynch. Scott aswell. I don't think it is out of the ordinary for scott to not be around for large portions of some phases but when he is around he usually has a big thought dump. He didn't attempt anything like that this game which feels scummy from him. He is lean scum but I wouldn't lynch him over moosey or fecal at this stage. I also am waiting for VE to be around again. | ||
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Farah if moosey acted like this last game as town couldnt you say it would be a good idea for him to act this way as scum this game? | ||
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On November 17 2015 11:19 scott31337 wrote: His ass was town in the last game too and did this. Playing against wincon is not cool. See even if Moosy sucks and I decide not to play with him in the future if he's town - this should not get you down either. A depressed town is a failtown. Please do not! We waited so long for this game to start. Okay? I'm at page 28 and would rather watch the Football game then read this. ##Unvote I may be back later, or on tomorrow.  | ||
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On November 17 2015 12:22 MoosyDoosy wrote: 1. You say that Farah meant her read on Shining to be a joke. But you can clearly see that it was actually rather serious. It was a method for Farah to obtain to obtain a read on Shining which she extrapolated on later on and had repercussions in terms with VisceraEyes. What's interesting is that Farah actually didn't claim outright that her thought was a joke and stop VE in his tracks, but remained passive and VE got into a big shitfight with Shining over Farah's read. 2. Again, her shitposting had a serious motivation behind it (or at least she claimed to) so it can't be just "shitposting get over it". I do agree it's an attempt to silence people about what she posted though, although I think it's an attempt to cover up what she did as there's no other reason otherwise. 3. She does try to provide some reasoning behind her townreads but they're terrible and are free town throws at people for little reason. 4. Saying you're frustrated when you're actually posting mechanically shows that you actually don't feel frustrated. The only reason why you wouldn't be frustrated by my strange play is if you're Mafia. What Farah wrote was more of a "I think town should write this so I'm going to" rather than a genuine reaction. Go re-read that post. It's mechanical. I have a problem with 1. People can say shit they don't mean to pressure people. Also the VE "shitstorm" thing was hardly a shit storm and im like 75% sure VE wasn't being serious with sheeping farah and was just doing it for reactions which he still needs to clarify. Why is it Farahs responsibility to tell VE how to read someone? 2. you are twisting it again. Something can be said to apply pressure but the person can not mean the original thing they said but use it to get actual reads. 4 in my opinion is your only compelling point but idk how farah's tone is usually so cant judge it. Do you have a read on VE? | ||
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I really don;t think shining will flip scum if he is lynched and think moosey is a far fa better lynch. | ||
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On November 17 2015 07:51 Breshke wrote: ahh Trefel I just know realized that post wasnt referring to his fecal vote because thats meet to say and argued. VE can you explain this and this Seems to be saying two different things VE not to nag but can you reply to this PLS I don't think it has any bearing on the lynch but i would like it resolved. | ||
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Does anyone have anything to ask me i got held up at work and its 1am here and will probably go to sleep soon and will most likely not be here until after deadline. | ||
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Moosey do you think I am town or mafia? | ||
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There's the association with Farah where he seems very comfortable to associate himself with her when she's just a "null read". Do you mean you think they are mafia together or that he is treating farah as town even though he said its a null read because he knows they are town. | ||
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On November 18 2015 02:00 FarahBlackwing wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote disinformation Actually this might be the right way to go today, we can discuss scott/moos during he night and see how we want our vig/cop to act in that regard. But disinformation isn't committing to anything, hes keeping his options open to see which way the wind is going to blow so that he can conceivably go with thread sentiment. His last two posts have set him up so that he can sheep either side as he has doubts about both. Its interesting to say the least. What do you think of this then moosey? I have some thoughts but want to see what you say first | ||
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On November 18 2015 02:03 NocturneMage wrote: Did you read ritoky's evaluation on him? I responded to it, but we all agreed there are a combination of scum and town tells. Are you seeing the (any) town side of anything he's doing? On November 18 2015 02:38 FarahBlackwing wrote: Yes I could very well be wrong and he did have some towny posts. I'm just not sure if I 100% want to lynch between scott and moos. Breshke might be a good alternative, reading geripts post now. But for now ##Unvote Yeah i was going to say that her next post is such a weak back off considering the post she is responding to is NM's and im not sure how that makes her change her read. | ||
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At the moment I think there is scum in the people who attempted to sheep geripts case on me. On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote: Actually I have rethought my position on breshke. ##Vote Breshke There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos. In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. This is weak as fuck. I don't recall any times that I didn't follow up on a moosey question and fairly sure the only time I didn't follow up with FF was because he was when I asked him to give a scott read but at the time he was filter diving someone else and when he eventually did I was already gone and FF isn't exactly around that often. Also i didn't settle on moosey I had been saying he was scum and the fake anger from him (which he ahs confirmed as being fake) DID remind me from the previous game where he was scum. This is just geripts meta case but written in a different way and passed off as her own. It is over explained and it could have jsut been a "yeah geript is right' but Farah felt the need to over justify this read. There is also a stage where Farah talks about using the PR on moosey to deal with him which i had explained was a terrible idea in my filter which she had apprently just analysed yet failed to take into account when making that comment. I'm running out of time and also have opinions on disformation and agree with a lot of mooseys last post. Also stuff about Geripts meta read but I need to go to work again soon. Basically I'm not sure if geripts meta read is shit or if my play has just been crap because of exams and working late shifts ruining my ability to wake up early when everyone is around because geripts read on me sounds like he is calling me shit town I.E not doing anything. I don't think he is mafia. Geript how confident in your meta read on meare you really when I have 2/20 mafia games in the database. All you have to base your shit on is town games. | ||
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On November 19 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote: disformation can you explain to me exactly what you mean when you say "waffly" Actually nevermind on this can you just give a read on Farah or point to me where you do. Last I saw you had her as null. Thanks | ||
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On November 19 2015 06:16 The Shining wrote: Are you seriously trying to go from BM martyr d1 to trying to lead town and the lynch d2? Moosey is a dirtbag but his posts were nice have you taken a look do you disagree? | ||
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On November 19 2015 03:45 FarahBlackwing wrote: Confirmed Town: Scott Farah I think They Are Town: Shining Geript Moos NocturneMage I thought they were town now they are falling VE Eversince Ritoky Not Sure Disformation Breshke Trfel Good Chance of Scum FF I haven't done much research this game like I did last game, Ritoky could move into the Not sure and so could VE. Ever I hope comes back. And its still forming a bit and the game is rather hard at this juncture. On November 19 2015 05:06 FarahBlackwing wrote: Ok, ##vote breshke claim vigilante Farah what changed in between these two posts? | ||
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On November 19 2015 06:22 The Shining wrote: If you read my last few posts I've already mentioned Moosy and his recent posting a few times making him look better, which is why I don't regret voting Scott over Moosy. But this is a huge shift in tone from martyring to actually trying and lead everyone and everything on d2 after narrowly avoiding a lynch d1. Like it could also come from scum feeling the fire under his ass and trying to reverse that now that geript is gone. I can't fully discount that at this point. Fire under his ass from what though? Wasn't Geript town reading moosey I don't understand how him being dead affects the situation. It is plausible that what you are saying is right and that after his wagon was so close on D1 he felt the need to lift his game but I genuinly think his pushes are in the right direction. (although thinking about this now taking in what he did in his last mafia game it isn't out of his playbook to bus here). I think this is a good thing to keep in mind but he is solidly town in my books still. | ||
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On November 19 2015 06:24 FarahBlackwing wrote: Everyone except Ritoky, Eversince and FecalFeast have entered the thread at this point. You claim your shot as soon as you can as vig so that mafia can't create confusion later on with claiming the shot. We can eliminate Ritoky from the list of consideration because he hard town read VE throughout the day even if he dropped a bit due to inactivity. Eversince hasn't been here and didn't respond during the night which makes her highly unlikely to be the vigilante FecalFeast is the best candidate left currently. Sorry not sure how I missed this. I don't think the vigi has to claim straight away but its not worth discussing and i can see why you would think that. | ||
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On November 19 2015 06:25 disformation wrote: Being but a leaf in the wind. Basically: She votes me, then unvotes me, votes Breshke, votes Scott and so on, being very unsure about things. Notice that she didn't post a lot of reads before I asked her to. This changed just now when she straight up went ahead and votes breshke today. So I can start getting waffly (as in not sure if I want to keep the maffay read) on her again. I think I might be reading this wrong or ive missed something. To me the bolded implies you had a mafia read on farah? When was this and for what reasons | ||
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On November 19 2015 06:41 The Shining wrote: I mean this was a few posts up on the same page. Are you reading and thinking or just asking questions for the sake of looking active? Have you never missed a post before. Im doing multiple things at once. Also im not sure how I answer the bolded but reads?. Isn't that question exactly what you are inferring what im doing what do you hope to get from my answer? You're asking a lot of questions, wondering what you're gaining from the responses and conclusions? And if you think Moosy is pushing in the right directions, does that mean you think Farrah and disfo are scum? Yes I think disfo and farah are scum | ||
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On November 19 2015 06:41 The Shining wrote: I mean this was a few posts up on the same page. Are you reading and thinking or just asking questions for the sake of looking active? This is actually really dumb by the way. You're saying I Saw farahs post explaining it and decided to just ask anyway because as scum I would think it makes me look good. I don't follow any logic there. | ||
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