EPT[M][N] Mini Mafia: The (kinda) Vanilla Experience
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On October 22 2015 06:30 Vivax wrote: We might already have caught mafia here since yammo doesn't reply in response to my phantastic intimidating presence. When he's afk he's mafia. I just don't take you seriously. If I do that and you're town, one of us is almost certainly going to die. If I do that and you're mafia, it won't help lynch you in any way. | ||
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On October 22 2015 06:38 Vivax wrote: That doesn't make any sense. Your reply isn't influenced by my alignment, only by yours. Besides you might reverse that and say that if I'm mafia one of us is going to die, which is good. Or that if I'm town it won't help get me lynched, which is also good. But you chose to be a party pooper. So you're mafia. No, I chose not to participate in the propagation of stupidity. | ||
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I think Xatalos has some questionable parts of his filter and I agree with gumshoe to an extent. I do not think gumshoe is mafia very often (given his play this game). I think marv has changed how he plays (quite obviously). Don't know what to make of that quite yet. I think rayn is leaning town but it's hard to say with not much having happened. Most others are a big ?, including yourself. tl;dr it's been 20 pages and 8 hours and no reads are confident. | ||
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On October 22 2015 13:28 Chromatically wrote: Who would you lynch between if you had to pick right now? I wouldn't, because I have like 40 hours to decide. This is one of the issues I have with Xatalos/Vivax and their "read" on me. Do you really expect me to be super active when there's nothing really that interesting to talk about? It's fucking pointless conjecture. No answer to your question will mean a damn thing in 20 hours when I have more substantive stuff to talk about. Sure, it makes you question my alignment, but do I really care? No. When I want to, I'll be painfully obvious town and I'll almost certainly find a better lynch than most of you, and once you realize this, we'll be heading in a better direction. Thinking that you're "putting pressure" on me by forcing me to answer asinine questions is literally the least useful thing you could do at this juncture. If I fail to deliver, you can go ahead and try to get me lynched, but in the mean time, don't delude yourself into thinking I'm scum just because I won't play the game the way you want me to. It's rather silly. | ||
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On October 22 2015 13:46 Chromatically wrote: Well, the reason for asking is because if everyone just sat back like you and did nothing, then you'd have nothing to talk about in 20 hours and we'd be nowhere. For example, I feel like you wouldn't have made as big of a deal and gotten angry about this as mafia. So this conversation might have gotten us somewhere. Everyone has their place. Mine is not early-game oriented. | ||
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On October 23 2015 06:47 Xatalos wrote: So instead of what's stupid, what do you think is... scummy/towny? I liked marv's pressure of GB. I had issue with what GB posted myself and it makes me feel better about him. GB, on the other hand, hasn't posted anything outside of what I believe he could post as mafia, so I'm still quite suspicious of him. | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:02 Xatalos wrote: Hm... I guess I agree. Though doesn't your last sentence make him null instead of suspicious? No, it makes him suspicious. | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:07 Onegu wrote: GlowingBear. Where did you go. Why did you take slam with you. Also Yamato confirmed not reading my posts and just ignoring me...  You're sending me ramen <3 I fucking love ramen. | ||
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I actually see what he's saying with Hopeless. Slam I don't really agree on. Ritoky not dank enough to be mafia so I trust this list | ||
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On October 23 2015 00:29 GlowingBear wrote: Well, I think he is mafia because he is assuming things in absolutes. I'm used to see Vivax being paranoid town and him giving a bunch of town reads right out of the blue does not looks like his standard gameplay. literally town Vivax to a tee mafia Viv is a little bitch | ||
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On October 23 2015 01:06 GlowingBear wrote: EXACTLY! I think I'm having a hard time even to understand what I want to say LOL. I mean he had a couple of theories to tunnel both of you. He WASN'T straight forward. His town reads were never strong because of the tin foil. But here, less than half a day, he already has like 4 townreads, and two of them I don't even understand why. By the way, Vivax, what are the reasons to townread BH and Xata? Literally scumreading Vivax because too many townreads Confident Vivax is town Vivax. Paranoia is not a trait, but a symptom of his overconfidence in his own reads. He's so convinced he's right, he doesn't care if everyone else reads the player town, THAT PLAYER IS MAFIA Plus he defends me for ? reasons just to throw more shit at Vivax meh marv fell off this for basically no reason, I would have pushed him more | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: yamato i am pretty sure GlowingBear is town here. Basically he says really scummy shit that makes absolutely no sense as mafia, because he doesn't really know what to do at all (i assume). Here he has some sort of a thought process going on in his head. Basically it's highly unlike he is scum here. Same goes for Hopeless, he tried to do stuff. He is just doing it in his own way that looks scummy to basically everyone.. always. I am really really sure ritoky is mafia. I am also quite sure Slam is scum because of process of elimination. Xatalos is probably just really fucking dumb atm, but at least his explanation to BH thing makes some sense, unlike ritoky's. ritoky basically argues that Blazinghand is town based on illogical arguments, or arguments that are easily proven wrong. Like even if he believes those arguments are true the read is shit and arguing the read is good for those things is something that a townie never does. Last scum is probably Blazinghand or Onegu. I kinda think it's Onegu atm, since Blazinghand seems to be trying to do something and getting something out of his shennies at the start of the game. I don't believe gumshoe is scum, basically his reacation towards me doesn't make any sense as mafia. He is right in that i suually pressure him every game we are in and i know he acts differently when he is scum than when he is town. I just don't see him being scum here. Vivax is basically his own paranoid town self with a portion of good logical thoughts. marv is almost definitely town. you are almost definitely town. Chromatically seems to be the most level headed person in this game. It's like not totally out of question he is scum here but most likely he is just town as his posting suggests. I disagree on your assessment of GB. I think he ass-pulled his explanation of his scumread of Vivax. I think mafia GB randomly decided to scumread someone and fabricated the reason over multiple posts. Hopeless is a pretty ez townread IMO. Ritoky, slam, bh, onegu all likely mafia? I disagree on at least one. Your last paragraph of townreads is fine but meh, I can't agree with you too much here. | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: why do you thin any of there players are town? and who would you swap? glowingbear? who else? I disagree on ritoky and I don't have a solid read on any of BH, slam, or Onegu. Yes I would swap in GB Notably missing from your post is Xata. Obviously he's been an active player but his stances are meh and I don't really think he's put himself out much. What do you read him? | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:46 marvellosity wrote: I'm going to be honest - the reason is because I'm an idiot. I basically got stuck in one train of thought and forgot that Vivax is a little bitch as mafia and that a confident Vivax is far more likely to be town. so yeah... makes me feel less good about feeling better about GB, although I'm still not really sure Marv... agreeing with me? Am I in the Twilight Zone? | ||
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slam not a terrible lynch given his insistence on being "unreadable" I think as town he becomes indignant and actually mad if people try to lynch him, this seems more like a mafia tactic. I don't necessarily disagree that GB looks better but I'm rather hesitant to sleep on the idea of lynching him entirely. Rayn is just not mafia here I don't think. Unless he is mafia with marv and they both successfully pocketed me. I doubt this though, because literally everyone thinks I am town now so lol. I don't really want to lynch Onegu but I admittedly haven't read his probably short filter either. | ||
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On October 23 2015 23:50 Chromatically wrote: You didn't think yamato's giant angry lecture about how he plays town was townie? I think that would have been very difficult to emotionally fake as mafia. The GB thing I was posting my thoughts and hoping you would explain your read. Your post I felt was town because I thought it showed a town way of thinking about things. Maybe it's silly but that's the feel I got. I don't think I'm being hypocritical but I don't think it matters if I am anyway. ritoky felt like he was jumping on something that he could paint as scummy. Xatalos is doing things that mafia have motivation to do. Not sure if that makes sense to anyone. Only thing I can say about Chrom is that he's plain wrong about me here, I could definitely fake being angry (or actually be angry, think about that!) about how I like to play the game as a mafia (and have done so on multiple occasions). Haven't dug in to the wall about Xata yet but I'm rather unconvinced that Chrom is scum. He does seem rather preoccupied with Xata, however, from a cursory glance at his filter. | ||
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On October 24 2015 02:57 gumshoe wrote: Also what was it that made gj look better to you Yamato? The post Hopeless pointed out. It did actually look townie to me. | ||
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On October 24 2015 02:57 marvellosity wrote: hi yamato let's kill Slam he is mafia I'm not opposed. | ||
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On October 24 2015 01:00 Xatalos wrote: Well I think this post is more likely from town.... Hm. It's not so easy to fake this confusion/paranoia as town IMO. This one actually Wrong person. | ||
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On October 24 2015 03:07 GlowingBear wrote: Sorry, why is he okay? BTW I'm pretty sure Vivax is mafia now. He comes back, jokes about stuff, says some random stuff about killing me, but actually talks about nothing else in the game. His read on yamato has vanished, too. I can't understand what you guys find townie in him. Perhaps a valid point. | ||
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On October 23 2015 02:36 Blazinghand wrote: Yam could just be having a slow start. It's still early int he US today, so maybe he'll pick up. All this talk about lynching yam is a distraction from the real scum, rayn BH knows this, lol wtf is with that question, BH? Do you really not understand how I play? | ||
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It is true that you have faded a bit. We'll see what that means. | ||
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On October 24 2015 03:35 gumshoe wrote: ebwop yamato I'd like some answers to the following two question. 1: What did you find scummy about slam early on? in response to also what about hopeless? what made you read him as town? has anything changed? you bore me what do you think about them? going back now and explaining why I thought those things at that time is pointless not much has changed | ||
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DotA has been distractingme | ||
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On October 24 2015 05:58 Blazinghand wrote: are you down for lynching 1gu? no | ||
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I have quite a bit of catching up to do lel. | ||
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at the very least I'll do a couple filters after work tomorrow but I'm honestly so disinterested in this game I dunno, it's my fault really, but this wasn't as enjoyable as the last time I played for whatever reason I think I lost it | ||
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That was fun.
