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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 18 2015 03:17 GMT
#82
tempting
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 20 2015 01:09 GMT
#128
/in

#teamvanilla
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 21 2015 21:02 GMT
#182
chocolate quality? really?

rofl
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 21 2015 21:33 GMT
#215
On October 22 2015 06:30 Vivax wrote:
We might already have caught mafia here since yammo doesn't reply in response to my phantastic intimidating presence.

When he's afk he's mafia.

I just don't take you seriously.

If I do that and you're town, one of us is almost certainly going to die.

If I do that and you're mafia, it won't help lynch you in any way.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 21 2015 21:40 GMT
#227
On October 22 2015 06:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 06:33 yamato77 wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:30 Vivax wrote:
We might already have caught mafia here since yammo doesn't reply in response to my phantastic intimidating presence.

When he's afk he's mafia.

I just don't take you seriously.

If I do that and you're town, one of us is almost certainly going to die.

If I do that and you're mafia, it won't help lynch you in any way.


That doesn't make any sense.

Your reply isn't influenced by my alignment, only by yours.

Besides you might reverse that and say that if I'm mafia one of us is going to die, which is good.
Or that if I'm town it won't help get me lynched, which is also good.

But you chose to be a party pooper.
So you're mafia.

No, I chose not to participate in the propagation of stupidity.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 03:56 GMT
#455
You guys are making it difficult to be objective and all with the calling me mafia and stuff.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 04:23 GMT
#457
I don't think Vivax is mafia.

I think Xatalos has some questionable parts of his filter and I agree with gumshoe to an extent.

I do not think gumshoe is mafia very often (given his play this game).

I think marv has changed how he plays (quite obviously). Don't know what to make of that quite yet.

I think rayn is leaning town but it's hard to say with not much having happened.

Most others are a big ?, including yourself.

tl;dr it's been 20 pages and 8 hours and no reads are confident.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 04:35 GMT
#460
On October 22 2015 13:28 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 13:23 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think Vivax is mafia.

I think Xatalos has some questionable parts of his filter and I agree with gumshoe to an extent.

I do not think gumshoe is mafia very often (given his play this game).

I think marv has changed how he plays (quite obviously). Don't know what to make of that quite yet.

I think rayn is leaning town but it's hard to say with not much having happened.

Most others are a big ?, including yourself.

tl;dr it's been 20 pages and 8 hours and no reads are confident.

Who would you lynch between if you had to pick right now?

I wouldn't, because I have like 40 hours to decide.

This is one of the issues I have with Xatalos/Vivax and their "read" on me. Do you really expect me to be super active when there's nothing really that interesting to talk about? It's fucking pointless conjecture. No answer to your question will mean a damn thing in 20 hours when I have more substantive stuff to talk about.

Sure, it makes you question my alignment, but do I really care? No. When I want to, I'll be painfully obvious town and I'll almost certainly find a better lynch than most of you, and once you realize this, we'll be heading in a better direction. Thinking that you're "putting pressure" on me by forcing me to answer asinine questions is literally the least useful thing you could do at this juncture.

If I fail to deliver, you can go ahead and try to get me lynched, but in the mean time, don't delude yourself into thinking I'm scum just because I won't play the game the way you want me to. It's rather silly.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 04:49 GMT
#462
On October 22 2015 13:46 Chromatically wrote:
Well, the reason for asking is because if everyone just sat back like you and did nothing, then you'd have nothing to talk about in 20 hours and we'd be nowhere.

For example, I feel like you wouldn't have made as big of a deal and gotten angry about this as mafia. So this conversation might have gotten us somewhere.

Everyone has their place.

Mine is not early-game oriented.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 21:47 GMT
#643
Townreading BH for RNG might be the stupidest thing I've seen in this game yet.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 21:52 GMT
#649
On October 23 2015 06:47 Xatalos wrote:
So instead of what's stupid, what do you think is... scummy/towny?

I liked marv's pressure of GB. I had issue with what GB posted myself and it makes me feel better about him.

GB, on the other hand, hasn't posted anything outside of what I believe he could post as mafia, so I'm still quite suspicious of him.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 22:05 GMT
#659
On October 23 2015 07:02 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 06:52 yamato77 wrote:
On October 23 2015 06:47 Xatalos wrote:
So instead of what's stupid, what do you think is... scummy/towny?

I liked marv's pressure of GB. I had issue with what GB posted myself and it makes me feel better about him.

GB, on the other hand, hasn't posted anything outside of what I believe he could post as mafia, so I'm still quite suspicious of him.


Hm... I guess I agree. Though doesn't your last sentence make him null instead of suspicious?

No, it makes him suspicious.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 22:08 GMT
#666
On October 23 2015 07:07 Onegu wrote:
GlowingBear. Where did you go. Why did you take slam with you.

Also Yamato confirmed not reading my posts and just ignoring me...

You're sending me ramen <3

I fucking love ramen.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 22:09 GMT
#667
On October 23 2015 07:08 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 07:06 ritoky wrote:
town:
ritoky
BH
slam
marv
hopeless

green side of null:
xata
vivax


Slam and Hopeless are town why?

I actually see what he's saying with Hopeless.

Slam I don't really agree on.

Ritoky not dank enough to be mafia so I trust this list
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 22:10 GMT
#670
RE: GB

On October 23 2015 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 23 2015 00:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 22 2015 23:56 marvellosity wrote:
because most of town aren't retards and/or mafia?


So you think he is town based on what?

reading the thread


Well, I think he is mafia because he is assuming things in absolutes. I'm used to see Vivax being paranoid town and him giving a bunch of town reads right out of the blue does not looks like his standard gameplay.

literally town Vivax to a tee

mafia Viv is a little bitch
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 22:13 GMT
#675
On October 23 2015 01:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 01:00 marvellosity wrote:
On October 23 2015 00:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 00:50 marvellosity wrote:
On October 23 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
His first post was a vote on yamato?

And yes, he CAN do it as town, but his whole filter has posts in similar fashion. And I usually see Vivax being paranoid. Not this straight forward.

This doesn't make sense. He calls yamato mafia and so he's not paranoid? What are you saying?

Like I get what you're saying about the townlist, but you need to explain it much much better about calling people mafia.


I may be wrong here marv, but what I'm trying to say is not that he is calling people mafia, but that his posts are very straight forward here (that's what I trying to saying with "absolutes" = he calls a player mafia, he calls a player town - I don't see him having a slow progression on most people. And I'm used to Vivax being way more wary before giving reads).

It's basically tonal.

This is the same Vivax who tunnelled me and HF and one other based on a connection theory for abour 36h starting from half an hour into day 1, yes? That Vivax who is wary of giving reads?


EXACTLY!

I think I'm having a hard time even to understand what I want to say LOL.

I mean he had a couple of theories to tunnel both of you. He WASN'T straight forward. His town reads were never strong because of the tin foil.

But here, less than half a day, he already has like 4 townreads, and two of them I don't even understand why.

By the way, Vivax, what are the reasons to townread BH and Xata?

Literally scumreading Vivax because too many townreads

Confident Vivax is town Vivax. Paranoia is not a trait, but a symptom of his overconfidence in his own reads. He's so convinced he's right, he doesn't care if everyone else reads the player town, THAT PLAYER IS MAFIA

Plus he defends me for ? reasons just to throw more shit at Vivax

meh

marv fell off this for basically no reason, I would have pushed him more
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 22:16 GMT
#679
On October 23 2015 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 07:05 yamato77 wrote:
On October 23 2015 07:02 Xatalos wrote:
On October 23 2015 06:52 yamato77 wrote:
On October 23 2015 06:47 Xatalos wrote:
So instead of what's stupid, what do you think is... scummy/towny?

I liked marv's pressure of GB. I had issue with what GB posted myself and it makes me feel better about him.

GB, on the other hand, hasn't posted anything outside of what I believe he could post as mafia, so I'm still quite suspicious of him.


Hm... I guess I agree. Though doesn't your last sentence make him null instead of suspicious?

No, it makes him suspicious.

yamato i am pretty sure GlowingBear is town here. Basically he says really scummy shit that makes absolutely no sense as mafia, because he doesn't really know what to do at all (i assume). Here he has some sort of a thought process going on in his head. Basically it's highly unlike he is scum here.

Same goes for Hopeless, he tried to do stuff. He is just doing it in his own way that looks scummy to basically everyone.. always.

I am really really sure ritoky is mafia. I am also quite sure Slam is scum because of process of elimination. Xatalos is probably just really fucking dumb atm, but at least his explanation to BH thing makes some sense, unlike ritoky's. ritoky basically argues that Blazinghand is town based on illogical arguments, or arguments that are easily proven wrong. Like even if he believes those arguments are true the read is shit and arguing the read is good for those things is something that a townie never does.

Last scum is probably Blazinghand or Onegu. I kinda think it's Onegu atm, since Blazinghand seems to be trying to do something and getting something out of his shennies at the start of the game. I don't believe gumshoe is scum, basically his reacation towards me doesn't make any sense as mafia. He is right in that i suually pressure him every game we are in and i know he acts differently when he is scum than when he is town. I just don't see him being scum here.

Vivax is basically his own paranoid town self with a portion of good logical thoughts. marv is almost definitely town. you are almost definitely town. Chromatically seems to be the most level headed person in this game. It's like not totally out of question he is scum here but most likely he is just town as his posting suggests.

I disagree on your assessment of GB. I think he ass-pulled his explanation of his scumread of Vivax. I think mafia GB randomly decided to scumread someone and fabricated the reason over multiple posts.

Hopeless is a pretty ez townread IMO.

Ritoky, slam, bh, onegu all likely mafia? I disagree on at least one. Your last paragraph of townreads is fine but meh, I can't agree with you too much here.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 22:20 GMT
#685
On October 23 2015 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 07:16 yamato77 wrote:
Ritoky, slam, bh, onegu all likely mafia? I disagree on at least one. Your last paragraph of townreads is fine but meh, I can't agree with you too much here.

why do you thin any of there players are town?
and who would you swap? glowingbear? who else?

I disagree on ritoky and I don't have a solid read on any of BH, slam, or Onegu.

Yes I would swap in GB

Notably missing from your post is Xata. Obviously he's been an active player but his stances are meh and I don't really think he's put himself out much. What do you read him?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 22 2015 22:50 GMT
#717
On October 23 2015 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 07:09 yamato77 wrote:
On October 23 2015 07:08 Xatalos wrote:
On October 23 2015 07:06 ritoky wrote:
town:
ritoky
BH
slam
marv
hopeless

green side of null:
xata
vivax


Slam and Hopeless are town why?

I actually see what he's saying with Hopeless.

Slam I don't really agree on.

+1

On October 23 2015 07:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 07:13 yamato77 wrote:
On October 23 2015 01:06 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 01:00 marvellosity wrote:
On October 23 2015 00:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 00:50 marvellosity wrote:
On October 23 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
His first post was a vote on yamato?

And yes, he CAN do it as town, but his whole filter has posts in similar fashion. And I usually see Vivax being paranoid. Not this straight forward.

This doesn't make sense. He calls yamato mafia and so he's not paranoid? What are you saying?

Like I get what you're saying about the townlist, but you need to explain it much much better about calling people mafia.


I may be wrong here marv, but what I'm trying to say is not that he is calling people mafia, but that his posts are very straight forward here (that's what I trying to saying with "absolutes" = he calls a player mafia, he calls a player town - I don't see him having a slow progression on most people. And I'm used to Vivax being way more wary before giving reads).

It's basically tonal.

This is the same Vivax who tunnelled me and HF and one other based on a connection theory for abour 36h starting from half an hour into day 1, yes? That Vivax who is wary of giving reads?


EXACTLY!

I think I'm having a hard time even to understand what I want to say LOL.

I mean he had a couple of theories to tunnel both of you. He WASN'T straight forward. His town reads were never strong because of the tin foil.

But here, less than half a day, he already has like 4 townreads, and two of them I don't even understand why.

By the way, Vivax, what are the reasons to townread BH and Xata?

Literally scumreading Vivax because too many townreads

Confident Vivax is town Vivax. Paranoia is not a trait, but a symptom of his overconfidence in his own reads. He's so convinced he's right, he doesn't care if everyone else reads the player town, THAT PLAYER IS MAFIA

Plus he defends me for ? reasons just to throw more shit at Vivax

meh

marv fell off this for basically no reason, I would have pushed him more

I'm going to be honest - the reason is because I'm an idiot. I basically got stuck in one train of thought and forgot that Vivax is a little bitch as mafia and that a confident Vivax is far more likely to be town. so yeah... makes me feel less good about feeling better about GB, although I'm still not really sure


Marv... agreeing with me?

Am I in the Twilight Zone?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 23 2015 15:26 GMT
#923
I'll be around later today. I have a meeting at lunch and then I'll be free. Will become more active afterward, assuming I can stand this shitty keyboard I am forced to use because my nice mechanical stopped working D:
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