[M][N] Completely Normal Generic Mini Mafia

On September 15 2015 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:

elaborate please.

On September 15 2015 07:14 MoosyDoosy wrote:

DId I draw attention to this post before? If I didn't I'm doing it now.

On September 15 2015 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:

and why would that be?
do you thin k you should be read as town?

well i can tell you you should not.

On September 15 2015 07:15 ritoky wrote:


then why so melodramatic instead of proportional response?

On September 15 2015 07:36 Palmar wrote:
one more thing. Is it hypocritical I normally call damdred mafia for beeing timid and reserved, and now I'm slightly suspicious of him for laying about read after read without any hesitation?

On September 15 2015 07:38 Koshi wrote:

I don't remember what you normally do so it's ok. And I am the authority in this thread.

On September 15 2015 07:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:

it was for selfish reasons. when he scum reads me down the line for posting stuff i quote that and be like: "HAH B**CH! I'M JUST DOING WHAT YOU SAID!!!1!!1!!!11!!!"

On September 15 2015 07:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Anyway, back to important things. I'm actually up to the part where the protagonist looks to kill the old miser woman. But I'm not up to analyzing that part yet. I'm actually just up to around Chapter 2 which is kind of sad but the book is pretty dense. One thing that's interesting is that there are a fair number of references to doorways and entrances. This can be read as the protagonist's dislike of beginnings and ends as doorways are commonly associated with such motifs. On the other hand, it's rather telling when we extrapolate this interpretation into when he enters the public house as he does so very willingly. Now, if we look at how he does so, he says his mind clears after drinking the ale although he says that he is thinking rather morbidly. This is very important as it shows that his morals around killing the woman in the first place are disappearing. And this is important as it has relations to Macbeth.

...to be continued...

On September 15 2015 07:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:

nope not afraid. u don't know my d1 meta either. i just want it to be like a: "hah can't say anything n0w because you said it" moment.

On September 15 2015 08:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:

sure i'll start looking more mafia. that's clearly what you meant amirite?

On September 15 2015 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

i am sorry i can't

On September 15 2015 09:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Cephiro said: “Why are people thinking I’m overreacting when I’m just posting serious posts?”
When literally just before he had said “Let’s banter folks. :D”

So I obviously pinged him mentally for that, but ritoky already pointed it out.

On September 15 2015 09:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I don't necessarily care about what he thinks of cephiro. What I cared about was how he had exactly the same thought process as mine and his tone was relaxed/willing to question when necessary. I also liked how he caught the early inconsistencies in Cephiro like me. That's why I'm reading him as town.

On September 15 2015 09:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Let me know if you want to know more things. For what it’s worth, you’ve been pinging as town so far but I’m still going to wait until End of Day to make a decision.

On September 15 2015 08:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
btw, rayn is scummy for assuming things about me. i think lynching him should be a fine start to this game.

On September 15 2015 06:49 Cephiro wrote:
Let's just make today's lynch pool consist of everyone who claims VT.

On September 15 2015 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:

elaborate please.

On September 15 2015 09:06 Cephiro wrote:


Would like you to answer these two (@geript, about moosy):

1) Do you think there is a chance he could be scum?
2) Would you say he's either extremely town or extremely scum, or do you think he can fit somewhere in-between?

On September 15 2015 10:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Also this. I'm immediately suspicious of anyone who thinks I'm town.

On September 15 2015 07:18 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Can I get a run down on players metas around here. Like who is active who is a lurker. Who is a good scum stuff like that.

On September 15 2015 10:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:

mmm...how so?

On September 15 2015 09:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Come ride my emotional roller coaster. I will take you to places you have never seen before.

I still have to write up that Part 2 of Crime & Punishment.

I also want to hear ritoky's existential take on Waiting for Godot.

On September 15 2015 10:12 Koshi wrote:
JAT Palmar and Onegu are mafia.

99% on JAT
85% on Palmar
75% on Onegu


But I feel strong about the possibility.

On September 15 2015 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

pretty sure you are wrong.

On September 15 2015 10:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I care because he is Damdred

On September 15 2015 10:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:

You go first. Why should we listen to Damdred in your opinion?

On September 15 2015 10:46 Damdred wrote:


I'm pretty sure that ceph is town in this situation. His initial posts up till now just seem like someone who is trying to figure things out.

While he does ogo slightly over board in the discourse with koshi I think he comes out looking pretty good and seems to be only looking for scum. And when pressed he does seem to have some form of thoughts about what's going on which is a good point for him.

He also seems to have decent follow up and tries to catch people by getting them in discourse if that makes sense. At one point he questioned me because he thought I was implying one thing when I wasn't. The usual scum mindset would be push this and see where it goes instead ceph wanted me to explain myself and was able to somewhat cone to an understanding. That also felt towny.

On September 15 2015 11:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I understand the last part but I don't particularly like the rest. I'll keep it in mind though.

On September 15 2015 11:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

oh geez so you now claim your read is literally bullshit in the first place or what?

On September 15 2015 11:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On what exactly?

On September 15 2015 23:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Onegu is probs town tbh.

On September 16 2015 00:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Palmar may or may not be Mafia. He goes down to null.

On September 16 2015 00:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:

You're coming off as reasonable in your posts which has never been a thing.

On September 16 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:
Moosy: is rayn lying when he said you've played scum before?

On September 16 2015 00:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, back off on this shit between me and rayn and VT/Mafia history. Like it's something that I understand from him and I'm sure he understands me understanding him about our mutual understanding. Either way that stuff is irrelevant.

On September 16 2015 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:

This is a terrible post because if you think marv is surely town you should also think i am surely town.

On September 15 2015 11:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Ok im really sick hope its gone soon I would not have confirmed if it didnt hit me after that.

Im gonna stay out of the ego and meta stuff because I dont like it or follow it.

I think koshi is a villager hes just doing wild things that I feel like a person would not do if there a wolf/mafia. I feel most people have comfort lines they wont cross when they get that mafia pm and him going after no posters a couple hours into the game is one of those stupid lines a person would not cross.

I thought dandred was trolling as most of you were really hard so I ignored him but I like his koshi read.

ritoky seems to be taking thins seriously now need more from him. Seems this is kind of his standard from what I read I think in a post by dandred

I find that justanothertownie has posted alot of comments about other peoples reads but has not been really fourth coming about giving his own I find this kind of suspicious. The one good posts I liked were his directed to me I could see his point of view and reasoning on it but he just seems to be floating and making noise.

geript is just super overconfident on anything he posts without explaining much reason not sure what to make of that yet

raynpelikoneet seems to be trying to lead town and has some decent read charts posted seems early but I can get behind that. Hes asked alot of good questions and is building a big town circle early. Mafia dont want to build town circles early they want chaos.

Palmer didnt say much he just trolled a bit and mentioned role pms which would have got him instantly mod killed on most sites lol. He also was the only one who seemed curious as to who I was. Im kind of suspicious of this. The "no your not vt" when someone claimed vt seemed kind of like a rolehunt. I had the same thought but im not gonna mention it and help mafia do there job

MoosyDoosy has been way off topic and talking alot of nonsense. Hes gonna flip wolf more then average and is a new player so is not the worst fallback vote if I dont find one im really confident in. Hes never played mafia aparently so your meta reads wont be any good on him either. Like some of his posts are just pure wtf moments.

On September 15 2015 16:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:


so number 4 is a bullshit lie to me. As i said I read palmers filter and he did not seem remotely serious to me and in my small read list I said he was being a mega troll

On September 15 2015 11:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Ok im really sick hope its gone soon I would not have confirmed if it didnt hit me after that.

Im gonna stay out of the ego and meta stuff because I dont like it or follow it.

I think koshi is a villager hes just doing wild things that I feel like a person would not do if there a wolf/mafia. I feel most people have comfort lines they wont cross when they get that mafia pm and him going after no posters a couple hours into the game is one of those stupid lines a person would not cross.

I thought dandred was trolling as most of you were really hard so I ignored him but I like his koshi read.

ritoky seems to be taking thins seriously now need more from him. Seems this is kind of his standard from what I read I think in a post by dandred

I find that justanothertownie has posted alot of comments about other peoples reads but has not been really fourth coming about giving his own I find this kind of suspicious. The one good posts I liked were his directed to me I could see his point of view and reasoning on it but he just seems to be floating and making noise.

geript is just super overconfident on anything he posts without explaining much reason not sure what to make of that yet

raynpelikoneet seems to be trying to lead town and has some decent read charts posted seems early but I can get behind that. Hes asked alot of good questions and is building a big town circle early. Mafia dont want to build town circles early they want chaos.

Palmer didnt say much he just trolled a bit and mentioned role pms which would have got him instantly mod killed on most sites lol. He also was the only one who seemed curious as to who I was. Im kind of suspicious of this. The "no your not vt" when someone claimed vt seemed kind of like a rolehunt. I had the same thought but im not gonna mention it and help mafia do there job

MoosyDoosy has been way off topic and talking alot of nonsense. Hes gonna flip wolf more then average and is a new player so is not the worst fallback vote if I dont find one im really confident in. Hes never played mafia aparently so your meta reads wont be any good on him either. Like some of his posts are just pure wtf moments.

On September 15 2015 16:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:


so number 4 is a bullshit lie to me. As i said I read palmers filter and he did not seem remotely serious to me and in my small read list I said he was being a mega troll

On September 16 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:

He's not being opportunistic at that point. He was being opportunistic on rayn bringing up geript's early contradiction about Palmar. Read that part of the thread. At that point marv was questioning him (Coyote was unsuccessfully answering) and Coyote was also unsuccessfully trying to bring me up into the mainstream conversation. It's strange he jumped immediately on rayn's post when Palmar's contradiction had already be pointed out prior.

On September 15 2015 07:45 Koshi wrote:

hmm. I only remember you wanting to shoot our stuff together.

I was weirded out.

On September 15 2015 11:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:



no no no.
##vote geript

On September 15 2015 14:11 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Whats odd about me pointing out geript saying scummy/anti village things. Stick to meta reads fello

On September 16 2015 02:17 Koshi wrote:


into this:

Maybe he is just scumhunting and giving his honest opinion on geript?

Why is he desperate and opportunistic?

rofl

On September 16 2015 03:02 Koshi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440800-smb-mini-mafia

This game.

It was the Grackster.

On September 16 2015 01:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
- Claiming a trap is an easy way to open up and pretend you're doing work. He also seems eager to point out it was a test almost as if people should know that he was trying to do work. I also don't know what he was expecting because he could clearly see we were going to just answer sarcastically because we were all just bantering.
- huE thinks I'm scum because of A. VT claim B. filler
- Sheeps your post immediately on geript when it was already brought up earlier.
- Doesn't answer marv's questioning and instead claims he knows what he's doing and says marv is being overblown
- His 3rd page of filter has almost no relevance when you look at thread context. He was just talking about things that no one else was talking about.
- Biggest part is tone. Damdred will probably read this as well, but if you look at context he seems opportunistic and willing to jump at things as well as a bit desperate in trying to appear townie.

On September 16 2015 06:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The last time I saw JAT act like this was in a game where he was townie. rayn, marv, and Palmar were in it as well. I'd like to know exactly what they think of JAT currently. :/

On September 16 2015 08:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:

why not? i recall JAT acting like a dick in another game similar to how he’s acting here, and want thoughts from players that I recall were in that same game.

On September 16 2015 10:29 TheWarWaffle wrote:
Sorry about the lack of posts but your massive circle jerk (that I wasn't invited to btw) made me want to sit back and wait for some substance before making any reads. The fact that I've only played with geript and Damdred before have also contributed to this. I looked at all the filters individually since I don't know the meta of any players here (besides a vague outline I've drawn through observation of this game). This is my current standing on each of you:

MoosyDoosy: Very poor posting quality. Many one liners that distract or lead into other topics. Nothing of substance or insight to be gleaned from his whole filter. Probable mafia.

Damdred: Damdred is Damdred. Pretty sure he's town, filter doesn't have anything against him. A couple of people have targeted him based off meta reads, though.

geript: In Student Mafia V he singlehandedly got me lynched. No hard feelings. He was town in that game (and he even had an excuse to post infrequently too); his actions in this game have in no way, shape, or form followed this supposed typical gerpit behaviour. Highly suspicious.

justanothertownie: Has a bunch of posts but most of it is filler. Dragged the "did I/did I not townread geript" conversation string on for longer than it should have. This post feels like he's saying "I may not be town, but I'm definitely not mafia."

Koshi: Spams a lot but apparently it is always this way with him. Is aggressively (and confidently) pushing justanothertownie for mafia. Pretty sure he's town.

raynpelikoneet: Pretty up front with his willingness to vote for pressure. Is heavily leaning towards MoosyDoosy and justanothertownie. Strangely hard townread MoosyDoosy up until the point where he was afk for a while then switched his vote to Moosy, promised to not move it, and was so sure of it that he said "If MoosyDoosy flips town in this game i am mafia and you should lynch me, that's how sure i am." This feels like a bus to me. If all other suspicious leads go awry, rayn should be looked at. Currently reading town, however.

Wile E. Coyote: Weak posts. Nothing seems to jump out whatsoever. Feels like somebody trying to slide by under the radar. Null/suspicious.

Cephiro: Well constructed posts... if he's ever around. Raised suspicion on Damdred, told Moosy to stop talking about Crime and Punishment, and then disappeared. Odd. He mentioned returning midway through the cycle but has yet to make a reappearance. Null.

Onegu: Possesses a strange knack for seeming like he's around when he's not. Really nothing to go by in his filter. Null/suspicious.

ritoky: Calls out the suspicious people for acting suspicious. Appears to have reasonable reads. Town most likely.

Palmar: Appears to be town. Sheeps raynpelikoneet and assures us that he is for sure town based on the way he is playing. Is suspicious of MoosyDoosy but doesn't want to lynch him for reasons unknown. Wants to lynch marvellosity instead.

marvellosity: idk. Could be either alignment. He is a good player; that puts a target on his head regardless.

On September 16 2015 18:19 justanothertownie wrote:

How is this true?

He is saying I am playing like I did last game. That is looking at my actions this game if you ask me (otherwise he couldn't say this) and it is also highly relevant.

On September 16 2015 20:59 marvellosity wrote:

explain yourself.

On September 16 2015 22:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Actually, when I am Mafia, I do try and replicate my town game as much as possible. Also, this is not my second game. It's my ...6th game? 5th game? Not too sure.

Like just lynch me lol. I'd love to see rayn face palm and shit all over the thread and blame it all on me saying it's my fault I made no sense.

On September 16 2015 23:28 geript wrote:
@Marv. I'll explain as basically as possible. Rayn was in the newbie game (died n2) with moosy. I am a coach in that game. Rayn thought moosy was mafia when RAYN died. Moosy is still alive in that game and game is still going on. Hence the no talky thing about it. I'm pretty sure Rayn is wrong here on moosy. But in my passing reading am continuing to waffle on Rayn and Damdred.

On September 17 2015 00:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I don't want to get banned lol.

On September 17 2015 00:16 Palmar wrote:

What are your townreads?

On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Okay, but I'm done talking about me in other games.

I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed?

On September 17 2015 00:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:

lol, his votes were Cephiro -> me -> Cephiro

On September 17 2015 00:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
JAT I don't understand your vote on marv. Is it out of spite or because you really think he's Mafia?

On September 17 2015 00:42 Palmar wrote:

sass

I don't think I want to lynch Moosy, I kinda think I actually stand by my earlier do not lynch list aside from maybe Cephiro.

marv, why are we killing cephiro?

On September 17 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I'm curious as to Palmar's question as well actually.

On September 17 2015 00:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
There is actually thought process behind you being godfather if I flip Mafia.

What you were trying to scum read me for was so nonsensical, it could only have been a hard bus from a Mafia.

Actually, that's a really good point. Why did WarWaffle say we have a cop?

On September 17 2015 00:47 marvellosity wrote:

same question to you then. can you tell me why not?

i explained my feelings with my original vote.

On September 17 2015 01:06 marvellosity wrote:
at some point some nice-looking prose that mostly talks about yourself/game theory that mostly happened in the first 12-24h stops looking good and starts to look quite bad when it is all the substance of your game.

On September 17 2015 01:46 Palmar wrote:
coyote is probably the most viable "why aren't we talking about this guy" lynch

On September 17 2015 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm is Damdred actually mafia?