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On August 29 2015 11:24 rsoultin wrote: 3 games prior. is that correct? Yes, so I am still newb-eligible. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:52 MoosyDoosy wrote: HI NOOBKING OMG I LOVE U I know.  | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:53 MoosyDoosy wrote: n00bKing n00bKing. Just a question: Are you mafia? If the Mafia finds out I'm Town, they might kill me on Night 1 again. So I would rather keep my allegiance a secret. But okay...IF I have read my role PM (and I'm not saying I have) then it said I was not Mafia. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote: He's been fairly obvious town so far. And you base this upon what? | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote: This is some of the worst reasons to read yamato. You're basically saying he is town because he promised to play. And you're assuming he is fulfilling his promise because he had an opening. I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you. Breshke is mafia because he posted just to post on the very first hour of the game I am mafia because I refuse to clarify a claim and you SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS CLAIM COP AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY GAME Yamato is town because he had a happy opening. Everything you're saying here is bullshit It's true that everything rayn is saying there is bullshit. And I agree with everything you said in this post EXCEPT for: "I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you." Because *I* find it hard to believe that you've not seen retarded reasoning from him before. But for the rest of it, we're on the same page. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:00 yamato77 wrote: My ability to read rayn, which spans some 20 or so games and 2 years. Okay, so from a meta-read standpoint, help me out here: Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town? On September 05 2015 09:00 yamato77 wrote: Also, for objective criteria, he is the loudest, most active player early on in the game when mafia is given no incentive to push the envelope and make waves. "Active" doesn't make someone Town, and "loud" especially doesn't make someone Town. On September 05 2015 09:00 yamato77 wrote: Your vote on him is terrible and I read it as intentionally antagonistic towards a player with a penchant for getting all bothered by this kind of silliness. If he has a penchant for being bothered by silliness, that's his fault, not mine. You should applaud me for giving him some practice at controlling himself. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:25 yamato77 wrote: trash tier post So you refuse to answer the direct question I posed to you? | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote: This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I'm not sure his tone was sarcastic, but we can have him clarify. He may have also just been genuinely interested to see how things would start off, when rayn and yamato tried to activate their Wonder Twin powers. You think Breshke's posting style is generally acerbic? I haven't felt that way, and I think I have been in every game you've played. Can you think of an example of this acerbic posting from him? | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:39 MoosyDoosy wrote: actually the game where my banner is from. Okay. I'll admit to not paying much attention to that game. But I still don't remember thinking of his posting style as being acerbic in that game. I'll wait for him to comment on whether he agrees that he was acerbic in that game, and whether he agrees that his post about rayn/yamato in this game was sarcastic. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: copcake can u post reads rather than throwing out pointless one-liners please. i'd love to town read u but i can't do that if u don't post. There's no need to be trying to press someone for reads at this point. Allow CopCake to participate in the way that he/she is comfortable doing, instead of giving him/her an excuse to make some worthless list post and then clam up or leave. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: and that's why noobking is mafia. - calls me mafia for something he does not know if it makes me mafia by his definition By my definition of what? Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town? On September 05 2015 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: - "I'm not sure his (Breshke's) tone was sarcastic, but we can have him clarify. " when: gg found scum. If you're Town, you're embarrassing yourself. Someone "posting just to post" does NOT mean they were being sarcastic. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: she is way better player than you are so she will not "clam up". Better player than ME? And how many times better than you, then? lol If I'm right that Moosy hasn't played any games I wasn't in, then he's played no games with CopCake, and what I said to him is good advice. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:54 Breshke wrote: Im confused. Which post are people asking if it was sarcastic? The yamato/rayn one? IDK if i would call it sarcasm it was more a joke im not sure if it is exactly sarcasm though because if rayn and yamato are town and both want to try hard this game then I believe they can very likely get us scum lynches. That is the post in question, yes. And thanks for clarifying. Because that's exactly how I read the post from you, INSTEAD OF as sarcastic. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: noobking says "GB's case is good" False. I agreed with his post saying that the things you had posted were bullshit. His post does not ever say that it's supposed to be any kind of a "case" against you, nor did I call it one. On September 05 2015 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: By your own definition you should not think i am mafia. For the second time...by my own definition of WHAT? | ||
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On September 05 2015 10:01 GlowingBear wrote: Noob can you explain why did you vote Rayn when you said he could say retarded things as town also? I'll answer this later. Right now I'm helping two players do something, and answering you honestly would hinder the process. | ||
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On September 05 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote: I might be doing that thing where im stopping people pressure people but i can't help it when someones post gets misunderstood and its going to take like 6 years for it to get worked out on its own Nah, don't worry about it. I also have a tendency to clear up miscommunications between players, and I think it's generally a good thing. Then you at least make sure that the thread doesn't get cluttered up with people just talking past each other, and that if someone is going to scumread somebody else, it'll be because of what they said or did, instead of just what someone *thought* they said or did. So by all means, clear up misunderstandings between myself and rayn. And that won't keep me from being able to pressure him. | ||
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On September 05 2015 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes, it makes him like 95% mafia.  And what's the mafia likelihood on the player that you're voting against instead of him? lol | ||
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On September 05 2015 10:21 CopCake wrote: Besides when rayn is mafia he nip tick pretty shitty things and goes like "oh but i know this person, her tone is this etc" like when he got rsoultin in day 1 in one game. Can someone translate this into English for me? Is nip tick nitpick? If so, then you couldn't possibly ask for rayn to nitpick on dumber and more inconsequential little details than he has already in the first 3 hours of this game. | ||
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On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote: I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. I'm doing more than just getting a read on rayn's alignment. And I don't need you to understand all of the things that I am doing, in order for them to work. | ||
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On September 05 2015 10:35 CopCake wrote: look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer. There IS no post where you say you consider rayn Town, much less give an explanation for why you would consider him Town. There is a post where you say "When rayn uses more 'tone reads and emotional reads' he tends to be mafia." And that could be taken as an insinuation that rayn could be Town....IF it weren't for the FACT that he's used tone reads or emotional reads in THIS game. Look at what he has said about how he determined the allegiances of Alakaslam and yamato. They are both "tonereads" at best, if not better described as "reads based on literally nothing at all." Then he goes bonkers over a little bit of nothing from both Breshke and GlowingBear, and nothing helps to create a poor Town atmosphere for catching Scum more than jumping at those sorts of inconsequential bits of nothing, and trying to turn them into major talking points. It distracts the Town from actually doing anything productive. He would later say "My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good" which is laugh-out-loud preposterous. Says he's 95% sure Alakaslam is Mafia and 98% sure that I am. Why would a TOWN player ever want to take up space in the thread spouting stupid crap like that? Even more useless (somehow?) are posts such as: "Like i am literally the towniest person in this game." There is never any reason for a Town player to say something like this. The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong. | ||
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On September 05 2015 10:52 Breshke wrote: I never said that I need to understand it for it to work. If you are town you better hope people can understand it when you get whatever you want to get otherwise even if you nail the scumteam whatever your doing is useless. Are you threatening me? Using fear as a weapon against me, so that I'll discontinue whatever I'm pursuing? Or sabotage it by explaining it? Yes, if I get whatever I want to get, then it will be explained, and people will understand it. For me to nail the scum team would not be useless. I do not have a difficult time conveying a point. | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:09 CopCake wrote: Dude there's one thing that makes rayn PRETTY TOWNIE and a fucking OBVIOUS ONE. The whole thing when GB claimed. Pls. I could see myself reacting to GB's claim the same way rayn did ONLY if I were Scum. NEVER would it cross my mind to react that way, if I were Town. | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote: I legit think the case thingo on slam is really good. lol @ the notion that there is a case on slam. Haha, ha ha...ha. | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:19 Breshke wrote: Lol noobking could very well be mafia. Tries to buddy me realizes it isnt working reverts to old strategy of antagonizing. A+ Apparently I've forgotten the part where I was trying to buddy you. CopCake wrote: ok noobking how would a TOWNIE react to the gb claim? A Town player would react to the claim exactly as I did. (Which was to have no reaction.) | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: you aren't getting an answer that helps you in any way with this. And rayn adds "attempting to shut down discussion before it can happen" to his list of gifts to the Town. No wonder he has TWICE felt compelled to tell everyone that he is the Towniest player around, and is being productive "over anyone else." | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: you have to look that up by yourself. you have been asked to answer at least three times already... Increases his post count/filter length, while blatantly refusing to be helpful toward a null read (when any null read is statistically more likely to be Town than Scum). | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:35 GlowingBear wrote: Care to answer my questions please? I'll share reads and lynch targets as appropriate. So the answers to your questions about Slam and Moosy are in the "pending" file. | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:57 Breshke wrote: DMA but yeah this isn't really relevant rn because rayn is probably town and idk about cake but they can never be mafia together rn = right now? DMA = ? | ||
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On September 05 2015 12:03 Alakaslam wrote: Please make sure this doesn't turn into simply joining a fray. If they talk past each other, what makes you certain they don't just talk past you? Because I am an excellent communicator and mediator. I see your point, and it makes sense, as you don't know me. But experience has shown me that I can *successfully* clear up misunderstandings between people, instead of them just ignoring my explanations of what happened, and continuing to talk past one another. Do him no discredit for his read of me, but please see it's prematurity. Not sure how one would fail to see its prematurity. lol | ||
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On September 05 2015 12:38 Breshke wrote: rayn wasn't even talking about you being scum. If i was doing what you are saying i was doing wouldn't I have put my vote on noobking? What did you mean by "the slam thing" (which you mentioned when casting the vote against him) if you didn't mean rayn talking about him being scum, and the reasons (if you could call them that) why he thought so? | ||
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On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote: OKAY so the slam thing is that slam was here at the start of the game all excited and whatnot he even posted in the 30 minute silence time. Then the game starts and he just disappeared. This is more likely to come from scum. Why? | ||
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On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote: Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Agree. | ||
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On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote: I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect I can agree with what GB said without saying you claimed that. And it's important for people to be sure rayn wasn't doing that, even if you hadn't said he was. | ||
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On September 05 2015 14:34 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, I undesrtand it now. But I think you're disregarding the rest of his play, which feels pretty townie. Yeah, Page 1 of Breshke's filter is PRETTY Town, up until the last post. | ||
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On September 05 2015 14:39 Alakaslam wrote: Oof. If we have people who would draw that conclusion we have some dim bulbs On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment. | ||
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On September 05 2015 14:47 Alakaslam wrote: GB only voting lurkers lol Srs man, no more scummy than that? No wonder I was under pressure. Only voting lurkers, like how he voted for rayn? Anyway, the lurkers he's voted for aren't even the worst offenders. I think Hydra and boxerfred are both sitting on a post count of zero. Hopefully they will have some good stuff to add tomorrow. | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:11 GlowingBear wrote: Noob, would you lynch slam today? No, I don't believe I would. Most of his posting has come across to me as neutral, and he has done one thing that I would say is Town-indicative. He's posted enough that as more information comes available, the positions he's taken will take on meaning. As long as he maintains that posting rate, I think there will be better Day 1 options. | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:21 GlowingBear wrote: noob what do you think of moosy doosy? Moosy appears to be Town so far. He's done one thing that I am not sure he would have found the nerve to do if he were Scum and knew that I am Town. I also think his suspicions of CopCake were well-founded (and this is even assuming that we disregard the "pocketing" attempt that Moosy flipped his lid about. I would disregard that incident, and I would be suspicious of CopCake anyway.) | ||
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On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote: n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case? I would have a difficult time crafting a defense for any of: CopCake, boxerfred, Hydra/Mage. I'm still waiting to see a post from yamato that looks useful, but I can keep waiting, unless that's a notorious lurker or something. | ||
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On September 06 2015 01:56 MoosyDoosy wrote: Also thoughts on Alakaslam x GlowingBear? idk why but I feel that both come out looking more town from that interaction. GlowingBear has come out looking Town from virtually every interaction. So if Scott is Town, then he's just about as wrong as he could possibly be, as I like most of what GlowingBear has had to say in the game. | ||
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Mmmm, NO. It was only my SECOND game here on this site, when I asked the other players if they knew of any good places to play Mafia-by-Forum. Because this ain't it. Players here don't care, players here don't try, and I don't think some of them would know how to try even if they wanted to. But I had said I would play in Moosy's 4th and final Newbie game, so here I am. | ||
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On September 06 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now this is a funny thing to say from a guy who thinks i am mafia for having meta-reads. That wasn't a meta-read though, at least not in the sense that most people seem to use the term here. It was not based on any of his behavior from other games. And I most definitely have never said that I think you're Mafia, so stop trying to put words in my mouth. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: stop bitching. this is the site with the most quality mafia games on the internet. why is cake mafia? Most games, maybe, which is why I came here. Because the places I like to play don't have games as frequently. But there's no quality here. Cake is suspicious because her vote against me comes in an obvious pile-on position for Scum that is looking for a safe place to land. She continually says things about Moosy that are not true, and projects onto him her own scummy behaviors, as though she's watching a mirror instead of watching him. She is also overly defensive in situations that don't call for it. Which is not always a Scum trait, but is seen from Scum more often than from Town, in my experience. GlowingBear and Scott (mostly GB) have cited specific posts from CopCake that are suspicious, and I had similar findings. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:09 Superbia wrote: What's this about dude? What's your reason for saying this site is filled with bad mafia players (essentially)? Is it because you're being read mafia? Not at all. I don't think the players who are mistakenly reading me as Mafia in this game are playing any worse than I've come to expect around here. I would have gladly made the above post before this game started. Like it says, it only took until my 2nd game here to realize that the players here are on a lower level than I'm used to, and that they don't really seem to care about ever getting better, either. In the games I play, players hold things over each other's heads from games that happened YEARS ago. Bragging rights are real, and you don't want to be the one who gets embarrassed, because you won't be allowed to forget about it. Here, people don't even care whether they win or lose (or whether they even finish the fucking game, or just up and stop playing), much less about their reputation. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:10 CopCake wrote: scott31337: Town so far. Because of what? | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:16 CopCake wrote: moose, noobking, glowing bear, fidel are the ones to watch out. The replacement too. Yeah, could not really disagree more. Moosy and GlowingBear are probably the two players I have the most reason to townread at this point. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:18 yamato77 wrote: lol you're getting lynched today how do you feel? I very seriously doubt I am getting lynched today. Never once in my entire Mafia career have I been the Day 1 lynch. Ever. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:26 yamato77 wrote: post something MEANINGFUL lol, what more do you think you would ask of me? | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:35 yamato77 wrote: Your reputation is fast becoming one of a whiny little bitch who is mad he's going to get lynched Again, I do NOT expect to be lynched. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:38 CopCake wrote: This honestly looks like you know that noobking is town. Yeah. And why shouldn't he? | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:39 MoosyDoosy wrote: I am fairly sure n00bKing's town. When he was Mafia, he was stirring up all sorts of chaos during the game without giving any definitive reads. Here, he's still willing to participate and he gave reads on several people. His tone is all business unlike his Mafia game. Granted he is overreacting that TL Mafia sucks and that his ego was hurt, but those are all actually n00bKing town tells as well. Nothing will ever happen in a game of Mafia that hurts my ego. I promise. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:41 CopCake wrote: To answer noobking this kind of posts are effort. So? The game requires more effort from Scum than it does from Town. Anyone who doesn't work harder in their Scum games than they do in their Town games is doing their scummates a disservice. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:50 yamato77 wrote: Are you going to answer any of my read-relevant questions or just post more of these kinds of posts? Do you have some sort of a problem with "that sort of post?" That post is worthwhile. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:38 yamato77 wrote: Seeing as you don't have a townread of scott, and that it appears to be because he doesn't like GB's posting while you do, what GB posts do you happen to agree with? It isn't just bad that Scott doesn't like GB's posting, it's also bad that he's misreading ME at the same time. As far as some good posts from GB, this one says exactly what it ought to: + Show Spoiler + This is some of the worst reasons to read yamato. You're basically saying he is town because he promised to play. And you're assuming he is fulfilling his promise because he had an opening. I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you. Breshke is mafia because he posted just to post on the very first hour of the game I am mafia because I refuse to clarify a claim and you SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS CLAIM COP AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY GAME Yamato is town because he had a happy opening. Everything you're saying here is bullshit Shows willingness to discuss possibilities that go against his initial impressions: + Show Spoiler + Ok, rayn. I'll assume you're town for a bit. Why is slam mafia? Says this to rayn, and it again is accurate, on the parts that relate to GB and the parts that relate to Breshke AND the parts that relate to you (yamato). + Show Spoiler + Meh, I don't know. I'm not sure about you. I really dislike your pushes on me and Breshke because I think they were out of place. You should know what I was trying to do. Well, Breshke does. No use talking about it. I think the biggest problem is your read on yamato. It's off. It's still too early to call him town + I didn't like his opening, felt forced. I felt the same way as this post: + Show Spoiler + argh scott again has got a bad post and did nothing right after... He asked me for my opinions on Slam and Moosy, and when I didn't react right away, he followed up to raise the questions to me again. Scum players do not historically do this to me. I agreed with him when he said to Slam that rayn's posts about Slam and vote against me did not represent "dissonance." I again feel the same way. This, too, I agreed with (and said so in-thread): + Show Spoiler + Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Otherwise, he would be on Breshke's and mine skin before you. He said this to Alakaslam, regarding Breshke (and I agreed with this assessment, and said so in-thread): + Show Spoiler + Ok, I undesrtand it now. But I think you're disregarding the rest of his play, which feels pretty townie. If he never voted you, would you be reading him as town? He would later name Scott as the "scummiest lurker" which is what I thought too, at the time. I just felt that CopCake was even scummier than the scummiest lurker. But both CopCake and Scott are trying to scumread GB (one of my better Townreads at the moment) and myself (who I know is Town). CopCake is also trying to scumread Moosy (another one of my top Townreads at the moment) and does not seem to be suspicious of ANYONE that I think has been suspicious, as her 4th choice was Fidei, who practically has to be null in anyone's book. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:52 MoosyDoosy wrote: I think that this is irrelevant and you should focus on finding Mafia m8. As always, I will remind you that I can continue to find Mafia whilst also doing anything and everything else that I feel like.  It's not irrelevant. Players are reacting to Hydra's exit on the basis that he's a player who has participated in 0-1 games here before. If it's a Smurf account instead, that would (rightly) alter their reactions. | ||
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On September 06 2015 07:02 scott31337 wrote: You haven't obs enough glowing bear games, don't worry about it, one day you will understand. I have never seen GlowingBear play before now. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:54 CopCake wrote: You are doing bets. Who the fuck of town does bets? You should lynch the person that you think is SCUM. Me and Noobking are the top list in lynch. YOUR BIGGEST SCUM READ AND ONE OF YOUR TOWN READS WHO SHOULD YOU BE LYNCHING? I don't even know what you're talking about, in half of this post. But I do agree with Moosy's answer to the question at the end. He should be lynching you. | ||
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On September 06 2015 07:10 Breshke wrote: so noobking care to explain the thing you were doing early game to get reads? Because I don't really see what reads it got you at this point lol, if you don't know what I was doing, then you can't be surprised that you can't see the results. | ||
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On September 06 2015 07:12 CopCake wrote: Noobking are you... seriously scum reading me because i dont have the same reads as you and because we don't have a common scum read? Among other things, that I have already said previously. | ||
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Okay, where did someone raise that possibility? | ||
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On September 06 2015 07:37 NocturneMage wrote: boxerfred and Fidei both had pop-in and pop-out posts citing they were busy or RL or whatever, so what's your defence for Fidei? Based on what I've seen, if boxerfred continued to be non-participatory, it wouldn't be anything unusual. That's not the case for Fidei. I would expect adequate participation from him over the course of the game, even if not today (and by "today" I mean Saturday, not Day 1). So Fidei gets a longer leash, and is a less desirable "lurker lynch" target than boxerfred. | ||
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On September 06 2015 07:24 NocturneMage wrote: Reading n00bking right now. Not liking what I see so far. I know he ranted about skill level of the site in the newbie I played and the one before that so I am ignoring that. But 278, 311 and 329, those posts I really don't like. 329, he's pushing rayn on semantics, doesn't have to be a case, all that matters is that he's calling rayn's points bullshit. The importance of the distinction between calling rayn's points bullshit and making a case for why he should be lynched cannot be overstated. You're right, "all that matters" is that rayn's points were being called bullshit (and they were bullshit). rayn mislabeled it as being something else, so I corrected him. Just as I corrected him when he tried to pretend I had said at some point that he is Scum. | ||
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On September 06 2015 07:45 CopCake wrote: Hey noobking, what do you think of people who don't like moose's post about the bet stuff? I don't know what you're talking about. I do know you're a decent lynch target today. | ||
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On September 06 2015 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Nah you have been calling me scum all game long. Now yoy die. Even if I had called you scum, it wouldn't be a reason to lynch me. And it's not a reason to lynch GlowingBear either. And there's not GOING to be a reason to lynch me, either. So you better start working on Plan B. You were 98% sure that I'm Scum, but you're wrong. You were 95% sure Alakaslam was Scum, and then you didn't seem so sure at all. What else ya got for me, Sparky? | ||
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On September 06 2015 08:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: mmm james' last post was super scummy- Who is James? | ||
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On September 06 2015 08:40 NocturneMage wrote: alright you ninjaed me lol.... Wait Fidei pinged you as mafia? Post 269/807 are the only posts he's had in the game. No pinging you as mafia. ????????? No, I don't think she means that Fidei pinged her as Mafia (as in, identified her as Mafia). She's saying he pinged her as Mafia more than boxerfred (as in, felt scummier to her). But that requires that she found this post from Fidei scummy, which seems absurd: Guys I am about, but it's Friday and I went out drinking with buddies. Last time I entered a thread drunk, I nearly got lynched. So I will read and post reactions tomorrow I promise. | ||
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On September 06 2015 08:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: mmm james' last post was super scummy- Nah, it's only a little scummy. But it's interesting that he's doing some of the same things that one of the Scum players did IN the game he's talking about (Newbie XII) that I used as reasons to lynch that exact Mafia member. Meanwhile, agree that NocturneMage comes off as Town, for the moment. | ||
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On September 06 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote: This is exactly the same as his town meta in voice-mafia, he tries to lead the discussion right from the front, ask questions, point things out and generally just be loud. I do think that a couple of his pushes have been a little questionable - the whole Breshke "yamato/rayn magic" thing was blown waaaaay out of proportion, and I think people were right to point this out. But, yeah, that's what I would have expected from town rayn. rayn didn't blow the Breshke "magic" thing out of proportion any worse than he blew the GB "Vig claim" thing out of proportion. Both of them waste time and create distraction. On September 06 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:I hate n00b's style of posting, because there's really no reason to be so rude. That was done for a reason. On September 06 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote: I'm sitting here reading this post, and I just keep asking myself "why does a town n00b make this post?". The only reason to call people's posts bad, without following with a read on the poster, is if you're trying to stop momentum on a wagon you think is wrong. Otherwise, you're just soft-scumming the poster. NO. Players would (and should) call someone's posts bad, if they are bad. Simple as that. I don't have to scumread rayn to say that GB was right about his "points" being bullshit. They were bullshit, and they should be labeled as bullshit, so that no one else will make the mistake of thinking they might be reasonable, and/or putting any stock in them. I've mentioned multiple players as Townreads of mine in this game. Do not think for a second that it will keep me from pointing out flaws in their logic. And if they make posts as bad as rayn's were, I'll tell them their posts are bad, and why they are bad, just as I did with rayn. On September 06 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote: I would say probably half of n00b's filter up to now is his fight with rayn. And through all of that, he hasn't actually formed a read on him yet? How does that even make sense? Who said I haven't formed a read on him yet? You can't see inside my head, and it is important that not everyone be able to see inside my head, since there are 3 players in the game that I don't want to know what I'm thinking. On September 06 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote: Yamato's thread is one I think is worth parsing a little more. He again seems to have been swept up in the fight, and is taking lots of swings at n00b. I've spent a fair amount of time talking to Yamato on TS, and I would say off the bat that his posts sound like him. But at the same time, he's a strong player and his absolute focus on n00b this early seems a little off. I'm also not sure that his post #598 makes a ton of sense. Rayn's read on Yamato is flimsy, at best. Even rayn would surely have to admit that trying to discern someone's alignment from how excited they are in their first post is pretty difficult. For two people who only know each other over the internet, it would be basically impossible. So why is yamato so keen to emphasise that he and rayn are hard town-reading each other? Mmhmm. It was interesting that rayn basically refuses to scumhunt (saying he thinks we "have our lynch" for Day 1 and so forth), so that if he's Town, he's just leaving the rest of the Townies high & dry to fend for themselves, because he can't be bothered to do anything. But then he continues to hang around and play peanut gallery. If the plan is to "vote against Town and bail" then he's screwing it up. yamato, meanwhile, does it right. He drops his vote on me, saddles me with some busy work to do (demanding to know which posts of GB I have been agreeing with, and further, insisting that I provide specific context for additional evidence...even though he doesn't seem to think his own statements need to be held to such standards, so he can be as vague and non-descript as he likes) and gets the hell out of the thread. | ||
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On September 06 2015 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: nvm here: And nothing has made me think otherwise after i made the post. Really? You indicated that if he doesn't follow through on being interested in the game and making an actual effort to play, then it'll mean he's Mafia. How is that not EXACTLY what's happened? | ||
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On September 06 2015 10:52 GlowingBear wrote: I think there is the possibility of him being Mafia. Some of his replies are really off, his tone is over the top, the dismissal of some questions and that unexplained vote on Rayn while not scum reading him are very fair indicatives. I have only voted against CopCake, you know. | ||
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On September 06 2015 11:03 Breshke wrote: Noob do you wanna run me through all the people you are considering for lynching at the moment? If you feel you have done it enough in your filter that's fair I just don't have access to filters at the moment but I'll look later. I have done it enough in my filter, but I'm used to having to do more than my fair share, so let me help you out! Good places for votes: CopCake, boxerfred, Scott Before Fidei returned, I said I would rather lynch boxerfred than him, because I expected that when Fidei was back, he would participate more than we would see from boxerfred. His posts since he's been back don't thrill me, but like I had said a while back about Alakaslam, I think he's a better player to continue watching, than to just cut loose on Day 1. | ||
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On September 06 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote: You've bolded a vote on rayn in this topic. And this topic is not where we vote. In this topic, I could act like I'm voting against rayn, or against myself, or against Santa Claus, and none of it will move the vote count. I have only voted against CopCake. On September 06 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote: If you didn't think rayn was mafia at that time, why did you do that? I feel like this question might be better to answer at the end of Night 1, than during Day 1. But I will think about it. | ||
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On September 06 2015 13:17 Breshke wrote: I need to check something when I can but thanks for replying to my post Noobking Also about this post I don't really see what you could possibly have to say about rayn that you wouldn't say now but would at the end of night 1 Like thinking any read you have on rayn is going to affect mafias NKs is fairly arrogant at this point. *sigh* Did you forget about this exchange already? [underlining added for emphasis] On September 05 2015 10:49 n00bKing wrote: I'm doing more than just getting a read on rayn's alignment. And I don't need you to understand all of the things that I am doing, in order for them to work. There is more to it than just a read on rayn. And the Mafia have other actions that I can affect besides just their NK target. | ||
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On September 06 2015 03:02 scott31337 wrote: Moosy trying to solve the game - unlike his mafia games - townlean What Mafia games? And since you've made several posts since then, but never addressed it, I'll bring this back up: On September 06 2015 07:37 n00bKing wrote: Okay, where did someone raise that possibility? | ||
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On September 06 2015 14:18 Breshke wrote: Hydra said it was there first game. Firstly...WHERE? Secondly, that would mean nothing, even if it actually happened. Have you heard of lying? On September 06 2015 14:18 Breshke wrote: Also it's dumb because you are apparently being purposely confusing because you think you can direct mafia night actions when you should just try lynch mafia. 1) I am not being purposely confusing at all. 2) I don't merely "think" I can influence Mafia Night Actions. I've done it more times than I could count. 3) You are not really going to sit there and tell me that your poor wittle brain cannot figure out the concept of Town players withholding information. Do only Mafia players refuse to share their thoughts with the rest of the players, Breshke? | ||
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Later we get "D1 lynches right now are GB and N00bking and voting n00bking" but still no explanation (not even a half-assed one) for how it would make any sense to make n00bKing the Day 1 lynch. And then "I want GB or n00bking lynches though." Still no explanation for why he might want a n00bKing lynch. And then "Who are your top three scumteam? Right now for me it's GB/N00bking/Boxerfred but that's too easy" and yet again, still not even an ATTEMPT to tell anyone why he might think n00bKing could be on the scum team. But best of all is this list: On September 06 2015 03:14 scott31337 wrote: MoosyDoosy - town, wants to solve game n00bKing - mafia - CoughingHydra - null - even posted? CopCake - slight townlean trying to solve Alakaslam - really posty - tinfoil like Breshke - actually want to win or change it up? Fidei86 - null - posts? scott31337 - town Superbia - a little townlean from what I read earlier started well died off GlowingBear - OMGUS smoking crack voting me - mafia lean - not interested in solving boxerfred - no posts? yamato77 - townlean - doing his yamato town "meta" Breshke - townlean - but posting wayyy too much - laid off or changing it up - townlean not D1 lynch raynpelikoneet - town hero as usual - <3 All 13 players are there. And there are only TWO of them that he has no notes for. One is himself. It just says "town." He has no notes on that player. No comments. No analysis. No nothing. And that makes sense. If he wants us to think he's playing from a Town perspective, then that one word is all he needs to have on that player. The other person he has one word and NO notes for is THE PLAYER HE'S VOTING AGAINST. No notes. No comments. No analysis. No nothing. Just parks his vote there and then proceeds to talk in detail about anything and everything BUT his lynch target. That's the one thing that always just gets glossed over quickly, and that you never get any detail about. | ||
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On September 06 2015 15:14 Breshke wrote: Bolded infers hydra had no previous games to base conclusions off of therefore first game. Disagree. On September 06 2015 15:14 Breshke wrote: So GB asked you to clarify something so he was obviously confused. Someone getting confused doesn't mean I was being confusing. And especially doesn't mean I was purposely being confusing, which is what I was accused of. On September 06 2015 15:14 Breshke wrote: You arn't just withholding information though, you did something that doesn't add up you "fake" voted rayn and GB asked you to explain and you just cop out by saying "oh i cant explain right now im tricking mafia sa hard h3h3." ...that would add up. I also didn't say I was tricking Mafia at all. But I could be. On September 06 2015 15:14 Breshke wrote: However right now if i look at this from your point of view you are arguing with me (who you don't want to lynch today) about something from your point of view is totally stupid because "you know what you are doing you have done it heaps of times". and you havn't even tried tot alk to me about copcake or scott who are two of your lynch candidates that I don't want to lynch today. lol, would you like me to change my mind about lynching you today? Anyway, no, I have made no special effort to talk TO YOU about Copcake or Scott. I've talked to EVERYONE about Copcake AND Scott. Now, Why would you not want to lynch Copcake today, Breshke? Why would you not want to lynch Scott today, Breshke? | ||
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On September 06 2015 15:38 Alakaslam wrote: Adentro (?), yo - ah, insult?- su Ingles. Lo siento. Por favor, recordar yo es estudiante de Español que no sa- be o ve- bien. Y escuchar malo XD Entonces, primera la enojarsas possible diga me mejor accento en voice mafia, porque mi accento es MUY gringo... I am not a fluent Spanish speaker, for purposes of face-to-face conversation. I can't follow the spoken word quickly enough. But I can translate written Spanish just fine, and I can assure the other players that what you've written here is benign. But surely, non-English communication between players is not allowed in these games? If no one is able to (or goes to the trouble of) translating what is said, it is no different than if Alakaslam had sent CopCake a private message. So I can't think of any way that this isn't a definite no-no. On September 06 2015 15:38 Alakaslam wrote: English second language sir. I think some meaning is being lost in missing words here and there. Sure. I was able to identify CopCake as not being a native English speaker, within her first 4 posts. I admit that there could be something of a language barrier here, and I also admit that in the many Mafia-by-Forum games I've played over the years, the overwhelming majority of the players in those games were American. On September 06 2015 15:38 Alakaslam wrote: I don't read CopCake as scum at all thus far. She strikes me as frustrated but also kind of relying on Rayn as he is a good communicator who is also ESL. so, when Rayn largely disagrees with you and is being his usual bull-headed self, she strikes you as unreasonable to the point of suspicion. I hope you realize you are not only speaking to me here, as there are multiple CopCake-voters in the game. Will I try to emulate the stupid shit rayn says, talking about how he's 98% sure of a scumread on someone during Day 1, and then upgrades it to 99% later in the same Phase? No. I, and the other CopCake voters, could be wrong about her. But even in the exchanges where she and the person she's talking with are each entirely certain of what the other is saying...I still don't like what she's saying. | ||
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On September 06 2015 16:07 Alakaslam wrote: Huh. [b]AS I WILL BE WHOLLY BUSY TOMORROW, I MUST PARK MY VOTE. GLOWINGBEAR GETS JT FOR LACK OF BETTER TARGWT. Since you're Townleaning CopCake, Boxerfred is better targwt. :D In fact, almost anyone is better targwt than GB. | ||
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On September 06 2015 23:42 scott31337 wrote: I thought he was mafia one of his games, am I mistaken? Yes. No shit. Maybe that's why I mentioned "his exit from the game." Seems to me that both of the above make you the one not paying attention. | ||
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On September 07 2015 00:24 Alakaslam wrote: Please, SSON. What pleasure you derive from this must be shallow. Oh, but the shallow pleasures are some of my very favorites. On September 07 2015 00:24 Alakaslam wrote: GlowingBear is a better target only due to his having done actual things that are scummy. Those votes don't make any town sense to me. Sorry to hear you say that, as I think it is Scum-indicative for you. To those discussing an Alakaslam lynch, I still don't think he's the best target FOR DAY ONE, despite behavior that doesn't seem to be helpful, and a vote that is especially unhelpful. If he continues to talk this much, and continues to be unhelpful, and continues to end up with his votes in places where they shouldn't be, then it should be easy enough to get him/put him in a Noose later. | ||
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On September 07 2015 00:30 Alakaslam wrote: By the way, whoever you are, "noobking", I think you forget I am the self claimed worst and most disinterested player on this site. I'm sure you fit right in then. The forum should be renamed "Disinterested Mafia." On September 07 2015 00:30 Alakaslam wrote: Reevaluate because you are giving yamato's burn a lot of weight. What burn do you mean? On September 07 2015 00:30 Alakaslam wrote: Why are you pushing a policy on boxer? Remarks about him made by other players lead me to believe that we can garner more information through his lynching than what you would normally get from seeing the flip of a player who isn't participating. Seeing him flip as either allegiance yields information we can use, and if the flip is Green, we know we aren't likely losing a player that would help us unravel the mystery anyway. | ||
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On September 07 2015 01:10 Fidei86 wrote: So BF, hearing his name get mentioned as a possible policy lynch, enters the thread and basically gets on board with the n00b and the Cake wagons, then calls Rayn town for meta reasons. Yeah, I can't say that after he showed up, I was less inclined to lynch him than before he showed up. On September 07 2015 01:10 Fidei86 wrote: His reasoning against n00b is not convincing. Whatever else you think of n00b (and I've said plenty), he hasn't shied away from dealing with specific issues. I've already said at length that I think there are issues with n00b's play, but I just think his overall play style makes more sense from a town perspective. I don't think anyone would have an easy time countering that. Can't figure how my play is supposed to have benefited a Mafia team, were I on one. | ||
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On September 07 2015 01:40 Fidei86 wrote: @n00bking What the hell are you talking about? Information on a BF lynch? The dude has made like two posts, and the only people who have said anything are Scott and Cake. Wow, and those are even PRECISELY the two players I might consider lynching ahead of Boxerfred, and would most like information on. What's not to understand? | ||
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On September 07 2015 02:41 yamato77 wrote: I don't really like Scott or copcake lynches from what I've read. Any interest in helping anyone figure out who the lynch *should* be, then? Impressions of boxerfred's posts today? | ||
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On September 07 2015 02:43 Fidei86 wrote: I just think this argument is bad. I think BF is scummy based on his play so far. But if you're going to vote him for information, that makes me want to rethink. To me what you're saying sounds like the opposite of logic. If a bunch of players are all using the same excuse to pile their votes onto someone, they could all be making the same simple mistake in reasoning. The more DIFFERENT reasons people want to lynch a guy, the better the chance there is that the lynch benefits the Town. So if you don't think I'm a good lynch, and if you (presumably) don't think YOU are a good lynch, and we're both interested in lynching the same player, but for different reasons, that's a GOOD thing. | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:00 CopCake wrote: Btw I don't like to lynch "lurkers" but people who act scummy @gb Weird how you accidentally have your vote on me, then, instead of someone who might actually be Scum. | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:05 CopCake wrote: noobking, moosy and gb. Yeah, THE WORST three possible lynches. We know. | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:04 CopCake wrote: I think you are scum tho, so? And what would ever make you think something like that? | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:12 yamato77 wrote: noobking you're making it difficult to move the lynch off you by hard townreading the other two people I find compellingly scummy I'm townreading NocturneMage too, if you want to say that he's scummy as well. | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:15 CopCake wrote: But there is something about noobking that bothers me: He says I am mafia because I have his two townreads in my scum list and because we don't have a scum read in common like REAAALLLLYYYYY I guess CopCake never gets tired of telling the same lie over and over. I've corrected you on this EXACT point already. There are multiple other reasons for why you're being Scumread, which have been listed by myself and by other players too. But YEAH, for you to have as your Top 3 Scum suspects the 2 players whose thinking has MOST aligned with my own (when my thinking is strictly from a Town perspective) and me (when I am Town), makes it basically impossible to trust you. At all. Even without all of the other evidence working against you (which still exists). | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:23 CopCake wrote: Moosy BET that noobking was town and that when he gets lynched he will appear town so therefore I was mafia and that he would prove it. I already said that if I was his TOP scum read why he doesn't lynch me instead of protecting his biggest town read. He's trying to lynch you. That's where his vote is, and has been. But he knows thread sentiment isn't against you strongly enough yet, which is how he ends up saying what he did. There's nothing odd about his posts on the subject. | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I could write a case but if people are too lazy to read then whatever. You could write a case, but...there is no case. There is no legitimate reason to scumread me. Which is only natural, since I'm not Scum. On September 07 2015 05:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: James no, his posting does not make him town. I have talked about this already. Yeah it does. He and I have talked about this already. On September 07 2015 05:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now he is fucking backpedalling from a scumread on me while the first ~24hours ALL HE DID WAS CALL ME ME MAFIA. Are you people so fuckign stupid jsut because he says "i didn't vote for rayn in the voting thread" you believe his "i didn't call rayn mafia for realz kthxbye". Serously GO READ HIS FILTER. Seriously, GO READ THE THREAD. I DARE you. I am not backpedaling one single step, and never once did I call you Mafia. Nor did I ever use any "kthxbye" because I continued to participate in discussion on any and every subject that mattered. If you actually read the posts between myself and other players about you in order, with context, it is painfully obvious that I went out of my way to avoid trying to tell anyone that you were Scum OR that they should vote against you. When CopCake made one post to me that demanded I explain why you were Mafia "in my eyes" I skipped that part of her post and answered the rest. Because I had never said you were Mafia in my eyes. There are other examples just like this one, but it really is already sufficient all by itself. You're just not even trying to see the truth. Which again...could not possibly surprise me any less. | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:24 Superbia wrote: Noobking what is moosy's alignment? Sorry, my PM only said that I was Town. It doesn't give me Moosy's alignment too. But he has not said anything that gives me reason to scumread him. And I would powerfully object to him being the Day 1 lynch. | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like lite-fucking-rally if this is how noobking thinks mafia is played (while this is correct( he should never ever made any of the posts he made on p1-2 in his filter and he should NOT townread GB. Never. Never, ever never. Oh really? Then why don't you want to lynch GB either, even while insinuating that he must be somehow creating conditions where the Scum players can conceal themselves? That is NOT true. | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am totally sure noobking is mafia because his play makes no sense and was really similar to his last game i played with him. I don't like hearing you say that my play in this game is "really similar" to my last game. They should not just be similar, they should be entirely indistinguishable. That is what most people say about my Town play vs. Scum play. On September 07 2015 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Suddenly when i bring this up and Moosy has seemingly a lightbulp popping over his head (because i was right) the dude suddenly retracts his scumread on me, or calls it fucking "never existing" and has even balls to make a post "townies should work together and be clear of their intentions" while he has done the opposite and GB was the one who was distracting the town and NOT allowing the town work together. I retracted nothing. You'll just go to absolutely any lengths to cling to your terrible read, no matter how many facts it requires you to look past. And what you just put in the quotes there is NOT what I said. I did not say they should always be clear of their intentions, and I wholly disagree that GB in any way prevented the Town from working together. On September 07 2015 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am gonna go read BF but i am not going to switch my vote today, that's for sure. Of course you're not going to switch your vote. When have I EVER seen you manage to pull yourself out of a tunnel? Does not ring a bell. I don't think you have the capability. | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:41 Superbia wrote: In his filter of XIII student mafia (iirc, where you were mafia and he was town), he said that you always read correctly call him town early on. This leads me to believe that you have a decent read on him. Is this true? I suppose. I have correctly identified him (early) as Town, in each game where he was Town. But until I've correctly identified him as Scum in a game, I would be hesitant to say that I have a good read on him. The players I have good reads on, I KNOW I have correctly pegged as both allegiances. On September 07 2015 05:41 Superbia wrote: Also, what do you think of the rest of town at the moment? Give an estimation on everyone whether you think they're town or mafia. No. | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:49 yamato77 wrote: I actually think he's probably not mafia but it seems people are highly unwilling to make any sort of concerted effort to get anyone else lynched besides cop (lol) I don't think that's true. People have shown varying degrees of willingness to lynch either boxerfred or Scott. So if you don't think I'm Scum, then CopCake isn't the only alternative. There are threeeee alternatives. | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:01 Superbia wrote: I'm actually pretty confused this d1. I usually have a direction I want to push the game, but rayn has kind of taken over the role I usually take in a game. Which leaves me stranded. I'm kind of okay with noobking getting lynched at this point and seeing where he flips takes us. Simply because I don't have any strong mafia reads. My gut would say moosy and go from there, but it may very well be wrong. Well my flip for damn sure won't take you to Moosy. NONE of you monkeys better let ANYONE try to say that Moosy knowing I was Town is somehow "too much information." | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:00 yamato77 wrote: I don't want to lynch either of those either. So no. Okay. People getting wary of Supurbia. How about him? I could lynch him to save my awesome self. | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:16 Superbia wrote: But here's the problem, noobking doesn't look like his mafia meta on this site, but the fact that he has played on other sites (and judging from what he's said, played a lot) makes me believe he can probably play mafia in multiple ways. Could, sure. But I usually just play Mafia the same way I play Town. | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:18 Superbia wrote: And you even spelled my name wrong. YUP. By the way, if GlowingBear were to be lynched today, you better hope he flips Town. Because if he were to flip Red, you've just placed yourself in a position where it looks like you're trying to use your vote to protect him. | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:20 Superbia wrote: So what do you think of the fact that moosy was able to call you town that easily? Is his read that good? Or does he have TMI? Neither. He is correct by happenstance. | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:23 Fidei86 wrote: n00b you've been hard town-reading GB all day. So what do you think about the wagon on him? As far as the names that are voting against him? Or just the idea of him possibly being lynched, in general? | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:26 Superbia wrote: I've asked you multiple times to contribute shit, and you've refused. Now you're pushing a possible world in which someone you are hard town reading (thanks for the reminder james) flips mafia, and this makes me mafia. How do you even reach this conclusion in your world? lol, cuz common sense? Common sense doesn't always apply in these games, but the reasons why GB flipping Red would look bad for you should be obvious. Do I expect him to flip Red? No, I do not. | ||
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n00bKing
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On September 07 2015 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yet you don't seem to be interested in either defending him or pushing anything else. tempted to switch back to you. I've spent the entire day defending him AND pushing something else. WTF are you talking about? THINK before you post, please. | ||
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n00bKing
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On September 07 2015 06:31 Superbia wrote: So why bring it up? Seriously, you could have so much to talk about right now. The main wagons seem to be GB and yourself. You believe both to be town. Who is the mafia inside of the votes? How did it come to these wagons? Is mafia pushing them? Nope. You seem to be asking yourself none of these questions. Instead, you're wasting your time setting up associative bullshit. Give me a fucking break. Am I supposed to imagine for one second that YOU have been doing any of the stuff you expect from me? Puh-leez. I expect that the votes cast against boxerfred, against Scott, and the 3 votes against CopCake are ALL clean Town votes. If there's a Mafia vote that isn't presently sitting on either myself or GB, then it's probably Breshke's vote. Otherwise, all 3 Mafia votes are on myself and GB. And no, I don't think it is Mafia pushing the wagons. At least not very hard. They just took a seat on them. Mafia hasn't had to push either of the wagons TOO hard, because rayn has been doing all their work for them. | ||
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n00bKing
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On September 07 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote: ? boxerfred would be the most scummy lurker here based on his post. scott has actually posted a lot by his own standards and he's actually showing decent reads this time around. Scott had not posted a lot by his standards (or anyone's standards) at the time GB made that post. | ||
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n00bKing
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On September 07 2015 06:49 Superbia wrote: Right. On some platforms that is how people soft-claim PR. I personally thought it may well have been a soft. And what is supposed to be the benefit to the Town of you trying to coerce me into turning a soft claim into a hard claim, with someone other than myself being in the Noose at that moment? | ||
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n00bKing
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On September 07 2015 06:53 scott31337 wrote: N00b is putting in a lot of posting and got a slight move up, but like what rayn says - he's not pushing anyone - like he's waiting to see what happens - and that makes me worried - He looks worse than the rest in the game - still #2. GB - I went over this already - #1 - voting him now I think Copcake's town and am not seeing the reasoning for him. GlowingBear (5): Alakaslam, scott31337, raynpelikoneet, yamato77, Fidei86 copcake (3): n00bking, moosydoosy, nocturnemage n00bking (3): CopCake, boxerfred, Superbia Alakaslam (1): Breshke scott310337 (1): GlowingBear the GB wagon looks pure and I think every one on him is town. Will you still think everyone on GB is Town if he flips Town? | ||
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n00bKing
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On September 07 2015 06:57 Superbia wrote: Because I think you're mafia at this point in time. And I think that soft may have caused people to reconsider (including myself) and I don't want you to get a pass because of it. Right, it made you reconsider me so much that you put your vote on me the instant yamato gave GB the vote lead in my place, and you've kept your vote there ever since. I don't think any of the people that moved their vote off of me did so because "he's possibly/probably a blue role." I mean, you can ask 'em yourself, but I expect they completely disregarded that in their decision-making. You go after the players you think are Scummy, and you react to a claim once there IS one, and not when you think there *might* be one. So I maintain that by trying to get me to give up the goods on which role I have, you're hurting the Town. | ||
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n00bKing
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On September 07 2015 07:10 Superbia wrote: Why have you been arguing with me again the entire EoD, instead of analyzing the "both town" wagons and finding a mafia to push on? 1) Because the GB lynch had inexorable momentum 2) Because I also thought the deadline was on the hour, and in fact, KNOW that it was, before the OP was edited. 3) Because with me being nearly lynched myself, I don't have the Town cred to move people to a new target, against the aforementioned inexorable momentum. 4) Why are you changing the subject? I asked why you tried to coerce me into a hard claim, and you gave your excuse. I countered your excuse. Your move. | ||
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On September 07 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote: JESUS I SAID I WAS VIGI BECAUSE MAFIA KNOW THE ROLES SO I WOULDNT BE SHOT AR NIHJT If you claim Vigilante in a ruleset where you're the Doctor, the Cop would know you are lying. | ||
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n00bKing
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*sigh* The things I have to put up with. | ||
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n00bKing
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On September 07 2015 07:21 GlowingBear wrote: So he just checks me at night if he is smart. Then he gets a green check on me and I keep alive. That's why I didn't want to talk about my claim. That's not the best way for the Cop to play on Night 1. Your story is weak. | ||
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n00bKing
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My voting history: ##Vote: CopCake ##Unvote ##Vote: GlowingBear EASY GAME. :D I selected rayn for the non-vote, because I was virtually certain that if he was Town, he would be the easiest player in the game (probably the easiest player on the SITE) for me to manipulate. And I couldn't have asked for the strategy to work any better for me than it did. As it enabled me to completely eliminate rayn as a suspect (hence where I say that rayn was "doing all of the Scum team's work for them", which can only be true if he's Town) so that I can promptly stop reading anything he says. And when he predictably tries to put together a push on me, I pegged CopCake jumping on board in precisely the spot where I expected to catch Scum doing it (and told everyone so). There was a post I made where I refused to answer GB's questions, because it would interfere with how I was "helping two players do something." The two players I was helping were the two that were voting against me: yamato and rayn. And by refusing to explain my interactions with rayn, I was helping yamato and rayn get a Scum player to claim the safe landing spot on me, which is exactly what CopCake did, and she was snared. I had said that all would be explained on Night 1, so if people just follow through with the GB lynch after his preposterous Doctor claim, then I think there's a good chance I convince Mage to check CopCake on Night 1, and we lynch Red on the first 2 Days of the game. And really, ALL that is necessary for this all to come off without a hitch is for rayn to STFU. That's it. yamato and I steamroll this game if rayn just stays out of the way. It would probably have taken a few more days to catch Moosy (since unlike CopCake, he actually knows something about how to look Town) but after hitting Red on the first 2 Days, we have an eternity of mislynches to figure out the bus. Anyway, goodbye TL. Unlike Fidei, I will not be ending my Mafia-playing career. I will continue to play as often as I can, just not at THIS fuckin' place. Back to the sites where players can see beyond what is 6 inches in front of their face. Back to the sites where people actually think before they post. Back to the sites where ZERO replacements are needed in the signups, because people actually show up to play, and care whether they win or lose. Two different people have tried to tell me that I'm only frustrated with the low level of play here because I've played in the Newbie games. And that since I have more experience than the coaches I've received, the "big games" would be more my speed. NOPE. I've read a few of the big games too, and the level of play in them can be summarized as "I'm 100 pages behind. lol, what do?" In my last 15 games on sites other than this one (you know, sites where people THINK...and TRY...) I am a combined 12-2-1, and haven't had any losses in my last 7 games. I could try to go through the steps of canceling or deactivating my account. But given the attitudes of the players here, I think it would be more appropriate if I just decided that I "can't be bothered" to do anything. So long, everyone! And nice work, Moosy! | ||
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