Newbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly

On August 27 2015 04:28 Half the Sky wrote:


2330 for us, it's in the final paragraph of the OP.

You almost always stay up later than me regardless so this should be very playable if your schedule works out. Hopefully not too many overnights.

And lol GB, you love vig shooting people, wish I could roll vig more often actually

On August 28 2015 02:42 Half the Sky wrote:


http://www.tv.com/shows/firefly/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0303461/

Only lasted one season though.

On August 30 2015 01:17 scott31337 wrote:
/in: Open

work has chilled out and we should be good

On August 30 2015 02:59 WaveofShadow wrote:

Haha and what happens to you if I play?

On August 30 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:

If you like smokey whisky you can get Bowmore for about the same price as Glenfiddich. It's better.
I would say avoid the 15yr old in both of the above.

Pretty much all Talisker is fine, even the 10yr.
Lagavulin 16yr is probably the best whisky you can get in the stores in Finland, ~70eur, it's goodygood and smooth.

Again if smokey Laphroaig, almost all of them are at least fine (i don't like those as much as other stuff out there - but i know that's just a difference in taste), they are also a bit more expensive (at least here).


EDIT: IT WAS A CASE WITHOUT A CONCLUSION ROFL!!!

If you like Glenfiddich try out Lagavulin 16.
Or if you can find Jura superstition somewhere that's even better imo and cheaper

On August 30 2015 05:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think there are two conclusions that I would like to extrapolate from the beginning of this Mafia game.

The first is that you guys drink way too much alcohol. Like way too much.

The second is that there are zero newbies interested in TL Mafia. which is sad

On August 31 2015 02:38 Half the Sky wrote:


How do you know what a sweaty butcher's ass tastes like?

hehe.

Anything you particularly recommend?

On August 31 2015 12:55 Breshke wrote:


It sounds like you would fit in well in Aus

On September 01 2015 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:




Okay it all makes much more sense now.

On September 02 2015 17:44 Fidei86 wrote:
GB clearly mafia unless he fakes cop checks left right and centre, in which case he's town
#metaread

On September 05 2015 06:35 rsoultin wrote:
there is a giant countdown on the first page

giant

big

huge

>>

On September 05 2015 06:40 Half the Sky wrote:


I have been in Québec all week.

I had poutine for the very first time.

Along with the traditional cheese curds, they were topped with green peppers, mushrooms and onions and I swapped for vegan sauce but they are normally with beef sauce.

Not too far off from what GB mentioned.

On September 05 2015 07:33 Superbia wrote:
Counterclaim.

On September 05 2015 07:35 Superbia wrote:
Are you serious about this claim?

On September 05 2015 07:35 yamato77 wrote:
I ROLLED TOWN

GG BOYS

On September 05 2015 07:40 Breshke wrote:


Counterclaim the counterclaim

On September 05 2015 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:

well start liking it right now.

On September 05 2015 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GlowingBear final anwer, are you claiming a vigilante or not?

On September 05 2015 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GlowingBear i promised rsoultin i will not get mad in this game over stupidity and therefore you have earned a place where i will just ignore you for the rest of the game.
Thank you.

On September 05 2015 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:

yes, really.
if someone is going to be nothing but a distraction they do it on purpose and it probably makes them mafia.
if people play seriously and don't just fucking troll then we can actually win this game.

On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I don't care i stopped reading his posts.
I hope a vigilante shoots him.

On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play".

He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia.

I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent.

Superbia can go to townpile aswell.

On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:

and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further.

On September 05 2015 08:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i like how rayn immediately becomes less angry when copcake entered the thread. we need to keep her alive to calm him down l0l.

On September 05 2015 09:02 yamato77 wrote:

I do agree on breshke.

GB could go either way. His scum play IS "too dumb to be scum" so yeah. He's also terrible as town fwiw.

I agree to a degree on slam but it's hard to press that angle without seeing more activity that he promised.

On September 05 2015 09:03 yamato77 wrote:

you should probably stop posting right about now

if you're town, you're arguing with town rayn

if you're mafia you're going to get lynched over rayn 100 times out of 100

On September 05 2015 09:10 n00bKing wrote:

It's true that everything rayn is saying there is bullshit. And I agree with everything you said in this post EXCEPT for: "I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you."

Because *I* find it hard to believe that you've not seen retarded reasoning from him before. But for the rest of it, we're on the same page.

On September 05 2015 09:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Really? I actually thought that most of what GlowingBear wrote was garbage. But then again, I do tone reads and I like rayn's tone. Although I did think that it was weird that he's basing some of his reads on tone when he normally relies on more substantive stuff.

On September 05 2015 09:15 scott31337 wrote:




A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean.

More Breshke walls of text -

GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite



Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +
Good information but I'm already blitzed.

N00bking's posts bad like last game.
He's my worst right now.

Rayn town
Yamato doing shit - town

On September 05 2015 09:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

IF yo ulook at any game i have ever played this is 100% how i read yamato in every single game.
I am not even calling Breshke mafia. So that's bullshit in the first place.
My read on GlowingBear should be clear as a sky. And i don't claim cop in every game, that's 100% bullshit. And when i do, i retract from it when it's unclear to people that i am not doing it for reals.

So, literally everything Glowingbear writes is bullshit.

On September 05 2015 10:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Hey, you can get out of the pile if you want to.
Please do make sense okay? And do not distract the game if you are town.
Please.

On September 05 2015 10:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am sorry if you think that way but i have displayed zero bad arguments in thread.
My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good.
My argument on noobking is also good.

You are (probably unintentionally) misrepresenting my "argument" on Breshke. So please go back and read what i answered to Moosy. You know i tend to use certainties, if i say "zero reason" it does in fact mean "zero reason in my opinion (at this point)". I push people to contribute, and i pressure them, that's why i use such wording. You should know it, you have played with me enough.

I don't undersntad why you think Moosy is mafia. Can you clarify? Or do i need to go read somethign again?

On September 05 2015 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Like seriously read the fucking quote.
Especially you GB.

On September 05 2015 10:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:

It is an attitude thing. I have played on VS where people tended to post nothing important on D1 before i started playing there. You can usually tell if people are just "hanging around" and most likely town, or mafia who try to say something even semi-game related.

I thought that was what Breshke was doing (the latter), but i was probably wrong.
I don't see anything wrong in Moosy's early posting.

If you have something you feel like i should re-look in a different light please let me know.

On September 05 2015 10:52 Breshke wrote:


I never said that I need to understand it for it to work. If you are town you better hope people can understand it when you get whatever you want to get otherwise even if you nail the scumteam whatever your doing is useless.

On September 05 2015 10:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:

idk maybe you could ask him?
i don't think it's relevant (as the posts before that), if you do, ask him.

On September 05 2015 10:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:

mmm...I consider myself the best person in this game to read n00bKing rite now so i know what im doing sir. and everything else i've been doing actually does make sense too.

btw have u listened to Eminem - Mockingbird? it's so sad but gr8 m8. kinda funny because the bird got its name for sounding like its mocking people when it's actually not.

On September 05 2015 11:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah noobking is mafia.

On September 05 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote:
I legit think the case thingo on slam is really good.

Reminds me of the first (probably only) scum lynch i ever pushed in my like 3rd game on kush.

GB might remember it not that its relevant.

On September 05 2015 11:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the third paragraph is jsut outright bullshit for anyone who knows yamato's/Slam's play.
fourth is well... how i play as town. + the fact i was not creating a poor atmosphere, in fact you GB were. And i was fucking prodictive, i have been all game long. Over anyone else.
fifth is kinda hilarious because he uses "you saying i am 98% scum is useless and stupid crap" as a reason to scumread me when my answer is literally an answer to his stupid question. Stupid questions get stupid answers.
sixth is just fucking rofl. Like me saying i am town makes me mafia. Okay right.
seventh..... ugh i don't even care anymore, i have been pushing an agenda he thinks is townie all game long, and now i am scum for it.

this guy is hilarious.

On September 05 2015 11:33 n00bKing wrote:

Increases his post count/filter length, while blatantly refusing to be helpful toward a null read (when any null read is statistically more likely to be Town than Scum).

On September 05 2015 11:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:

im guessing this was the question.

1. eminem doesn't like u.
2. i already said this but n00bKing is town. he's acting like his town game rite now although it would help if u guys stopped antagonizing him. like don't worry he's probably working on a big case right now because that's what he does. he asks a bunch of questions then writes a big case. the reason why rayn probably doesn't know this is because he was in the game where n00bKing was scum and didn't do this.
3. also, the point of me asking him was to set a rapport. the biggest tell in n00bking's scum game is how he posts. he posts more friendly/has more rapport as a scum. however, what he did was respond and then got to business straight away. this leads me to believe him as a town as he focused straight away after acknowledging me. and it's natural for him to acknowledge me because i've been in all of his past games and we've done some good work together.

On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:

Dude is this your first time being scum?

For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about.

This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched.

Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are.

Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me.

That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think.

Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team.

On September 05 2015 13:22 Alakaslam wrote:

You explain your vote on me first!
You and Breahke have given me the power to make pure omgus a good play!

On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:

PERFECT

COME TO YOUR DOOM

On September 05 2015 13:28 Alakaslam wrote:

The old man will win

On September 05 2015 13:56 Alakaslam wrote:

Why

If you leave I will suspicious of you agai

On September 05 2015 13:55 Alakaslam wrote:

It threw you off because in skimming you thought Rayn had not pushed me much because in his actual posts WHOLLY about me, he didn't- and he voted noob

But he actually was pushing me a lot

He has said so himself because he knows he did. You failed to see that though; you have not been reading and were willing to vote for pretty foul reasons when there were reasons based on posting in the thread.

On September 05 2015 14:25 Alakaslam wrote:

Not completely.

By the time bresh voted me, the sheer number of posts from Rayn insinuating I was scum had motivated some others to remark "yeah I'll consider him"

Making it seem like thread sentiment combined with Rayn

Therefore, it was a good place to park a vote without suspicion, without actually fully sheeping. Rayn did actually push noobking more

On September 05 2015 14:47 Alakaslam wrote:
GB only voting lurkers lol

Srs man, no more scummy than that? No wonder I was under pressure.

Still am for that matter, because I am deathbattling which always looks stupid if you are thuu

On September 05 2015 14:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Pah! Why does fidei get a pass for posting an IRL excuse but I get a scenario where I literally can't? Is he usually really genteel? Maybe the karmas have come!

On September 05 2015 15:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Because he is classic Rayn. And he has yet to be ALL THE PEOPLE ARE SCUM BECAUSE I KNOW THEM

YOU DIE BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE

I HATE LIFE

This is what I facetiously assert scumrayn is like

On September 05 2015 15:15 Alakaslam wrote:

I should do the same, but my bedding is in the laundry.

On September 06 2015 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Like i think everyone else is town except for james and boxerfred and even boxerfred is silghty leaning towards town for reasons i will not go more detail into at least yet.

GB is null just because i do not like his votes.

On September 05 2015 09:15 scott31337 wrote:




A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean.

More Breshke walls of text -

GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite



Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +
Good information but I'm already blitzed.

N00bking's posts bad like last game.
He's my worst right now.

Rayn town
Yamato doing shit - town

On September 06 2015 02:53 scott31337 wrote:
I'm only at page 19 - We have a vote thread I see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494187-nsm-xiv-firefly-voting-thread#12

##Vote N00bking

GB probably mafia too for his - GB thing and defending

Breshke trying almost too hard - I have not seen him pour so much into a game - maybe he got laid off - but I have to call him town for now, but tinfoil scary the work he is putting in

On September 06 2015 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

have you ever read any games of his?
i suggest you go read one.

On September 06 2015 03:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB, where is scott for you? null, mafia lean, or town lean?

On September 06 2015 03:53 scott31337 wrote:


I was posting my townie thoughts along the way and adding my thoughts and quotes up in notepad.

Do you have any specific questions for me?

Is n00bking toast and you are bussing him now?

What about boxerfred, who's only made one post, why do you mention nothing of him?

On September 06 2015 04:07 scott31337 wrote:
Who are your top three scumteam?

Right now for me it's GB/N00bking/Boxerfred but that's too easy

On September 06 2015 04:45 scott31337 wrote:
Am I still one of those people?

On September 06 2015 07:45 CopCake wrote:


the hell is this?

On September 06 2015 10:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GlowingBear, do you really think n00bKing is mafia here?

On September 06 2015 10:36 Breshke wrote:
Ehh I think I disagree on Fidel. He didn't post that much but i don't think what he was posting was really fluff other than complaining about the length of the game. The thing that I disliked the most is that he said he was gonna read you and moosey, he apparently read moosey asked some inquisitive questions and then never got to you.

This isn't really a reason to scum read him but yeah. He did promise activity later though I think so will probably see then.

I need to re look at Scott he was doing that thing where he posts his notes I think which is okay but I would like to see more polished kinda posts from him. I don't think I'd want to lynch him today though the stream of thought was good from what I remember and he is scared because "I'm putting in more effort than usual" and that's funny

Why is boxer a less desirable lynch than the others for you? Is there something you like or is there just nothing you dislike?

On September 06 2015 11:01 n00bKing wrote:

I have only voted against CopCake, you know.

On September 07 2015 03:55 Superbia wrote:
Why is scott the lynch for you, GB?

On September 07 2015 04:00 yamato77 wrote:

I really think you should be the lynch today. Vote yourself.

On September 07 2015 04:04 Superbia wrote:
I had scott as town early but re-viewing his filter idk why.

GB can you flesh this out?

On September 07 2015 04:08 yamato77 wrote:

No he doesn't

On September 07 2015 04:37 yamato77 wrote:
He looked pretty townie from what I saw.

On September 05 2015 09:15 scott31337 wrote:




A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean.

More Breshke walls of text -

GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite



Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +
Good information but I'm already blitzed.

N00bking's posts bad like last game.
He's my worst right now.

Rayn town
Yamato doing shit - town

On September 06 2015 23:48 scott31337 wrote:
I could lynch boxer but it feels like policy really.

On September 07 2015 07:20 n00bKing wrote:

If you claim Vigilante in a ruleset where you're the Doctor, the Cop would know you are lying.

On September 07 2015 07:21 Superbia wrote:
Like this wagon is likely to go on either way. Give some post-lynch materials.

On September 07 2015 13:19 scott31337 wrote:
That Cali air has gotten to you.

GB have a drink with me

Who are the other two mafia?

On September 08 2015 07:52 scott31337 wrote:
GG's yamato - makes things interesting.

I really like rayn's and boxer's post - I could sheep them - Fidei's been off and showing his contradictions like that shows. Sounds like a pretty good lynch.

Makes me want to re-read slam's filter and see if there is any substance to it or a bunch words.

On September 08 2015 08:09 Fidei86 wrote:
o.O

Okay, well that makes d2 a little more ... interesting. Easier too!

It's not really a hard decision for me here. I see no reason for a scum rayn to CC. We're not likely to lynch him this turn, and it's waaaaaay too early for him to be using the CC to try and save his mafia allies. It's just way to sub-optimal.

Also, rayn's rage, while kind of ... you know ... cluttering ... makes sense from what I read of his meta.

His switch off GB right at the end is a little bit suspect - if he is actually the cop then why move your vote? But maybe he figured that if he stayed on it then he would out himself as the cop? IDK. I think if I'm in his position then I probably just stay on GB. But, it's not like this game has been played optimally so far.

It's gotta be GB boys.

##Vote: Glowing Bear

On September 08 2015 08:11 CopCake wrote:


Dude, which game are you playing?

Rayn claimed doctor

On September 08 2015 08:14 Fidei86 wrote:

Apart from the doc/cop confusion, what part of this don't you understand?

On September 08 2015 08:23 scott31337 wrote:


It should be 100% fake to you, you'd be the one to know.

Very interesting wording here.

On September 08 2015 09:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lolol GB "knows" i am lying but is voting for James.
this game is hilarious.

On September 08 2015 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Oh but you just said you believe he fits as a scumbuddy with rayn.
get rekt scum.

On September 09 2015 01:19 Fidei86 wrote:

Maybe you'll have to explain why it should be clear that rayn isn't the doctor, since nobody else seems to be seeing it...

On September 09 2015 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
N1 there are only three plausible scenarios, from likeliest to unlikeliest:
1) GlowingBear is mafia and does not get shot
2) I doc GlowingBear (which i did) in case he is just a terrible townie saving his own skin from getting lynched by fakeclaiming -> noone dies -> GB is confirmed town
3) I die -> GB is confirmed mafia.

On September 09 2015 02:28 Fidei86 wrote:


1. IDK, this is strange, since he'd basically be outing the cop. One explanation is that, as the medic, he'd be able to save the cop n1. But yeah, this is sub-optimal play because the medic can't save the same person on consecutive nights. Just as well the cop didn't claim, I guess. Still, this doesn't make him mafia, it just makes him wrong.

2. If he hadn't moved, he would have made himself an excellent choice for blue-sniping. He was an okay choice for mafia to shoot anyway, honestly, but still. If he says "I am never ever moving off GB ever", he definitely wears the shot and the roleblock. IDK, trying to WIFOM mafia night actions is hard, but this is probably the explanation that makes most sense.

3. Meh, maybe he thought that my argument (don't lynch GB because flips will out him in due course anyway) made him think that people weren't going to be up for lynching you today, so he thought he'd lead town in a more productive direction.

In conclusion, yes, I agree the above are sub-optimal play / strange. But there is no way that they outweigh the fact that the other two options are:

- rayn is mafia, and he CC'd you, thereby ensuring his death D3, where he would have been in no difficulty otherwise. Also his CC was so early in the day that it can't have been intended to save a scum-mate under pressure - nobody was under any pressure yet! This is just a terrible, terrible, terrible play from a mafia rayn, and it seems super unlikely.
- rayn is VT. In which case he gets the aforementioned nad kicking for being the worst townie ever in the history of my experience in mafia.

On September 09 2015 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yeah sure. Like any mafia team would keep the non-cc'd power role alive. It's plain out retarded.
Keep that up scum.

On September 08 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think the following people are mafia:

NocturneMage, Slam, Fidei.

meh i don't fucking know, maybe i am wrong on one of those and Moosy is actualyl scum.
There is a chance GlowingBear is scum, but it will sort out itself anyways so i don't really care.

I don't really feel like writing a lot of stuff now.

NM:
totally isn't reading the thread properly. There are things like:

noobking himself said he wasn't pushing me. he is either not reading, or for some reason doesn't care.
Furthermore he scumreads both noobking and Cake. Apparently noobkign was just being terrible all game but there was ZERO chance both of noobking and Cake are mafia, so scumreading both of htem makes absolutely no sense. Like his reads are not logical, and they do not make any sense at all. He isn't listening to what other people say at all. He is just calling some people scum for no reason.

Fidei feels like he is not even in the game. Like he is just here and not doing anything at all. idk... i can't explain it better, he jsut isn't doing anything. And the vote switch from GB to boxer was super terrible, there is no way ANYONE should do that if they want to save someone. There was no chance boxerfred is gonna get lynched either way.

Slam is scum. I don't care yamato, sorry. He is just scum because he isn't listening to me and he is not answering me. He dodges fucking questions and i don't like it. Kill with fire.

If i am wrong on something then it's probably Moosy who is the last mafia. The noobking/cake read he had is like super bad and feels like he just wants two townies lynched.

---

If you are do not lynch Cake on D2. She is not mafia and you should not trust people who want to lynch her. Mafia is gonna try that 100%. I promise. Glowingbear if you are town get your head out of your fucking ass and eat roleblocks for the rest of the game. Also if you do not doc me you are terrible as fuck. I don't care what you think. You have been super bad in this game and now is time to start playing properly if you are not mafia.

yamato you can do this. I believe in you and Cake. Work together please and solve this shit.
boxerfred and scott are not scum either. When they posted they talked about relevant things and had logical conclusions on stuff. If you compare this to for example James there is a huge fucking difference in how they approach the game. It should be really easy to see. Those are also lynches mafia is going to push (boxer/scott), they are easy to lynch because they do not generally post much. Townies do not fall into the trap. Superbia is not mafia either, ESPECIALLY if GB is town. It doesn't make any sense for him to push the lynch against GB if that was the case. If GB is mafia, i'd put Superbia into null-category. That could make sense. Although atm i do not believe GB to be mafia so only if he is scum and you guys catch him somehow, then re-evaluate Superbia.

Mafia is basically in NM, James, Slam, Moosy(?) and GB(?).
The last one will sort itself out, so do not worry about him. He'll claim roleblocked anyways. Do not claim in case GB is scum and you are blue, until someone who is town (basically not from the list above) is gonna get lynched.

I would probably lynch Slam on D2. His posts have zero substance, and they don't even make any sense from slam!logic!pov. Again, he fails to answer questions that are super clear. Do not let him get away with it.

I am sorry i did that on D1.
goodluck

On September 09 2015 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:

yeah so you conclusde that i would cc you on N1 which is even more retarded than cc'ing you on D1. lol.

On September 09 2015 03:37 Fidei86 wrote:
The only way this Rayn scum play makes sense is if he was betting on some dumb townies defending him to the hilt and then incriminating them upon his death. That would be kind of smart, I guess. But also super risky. Also in this scenario I'm the "dumb townie", so I choose not to believe it :-)

On September 09 2015 03:40 CopCake wrote:
Either way, let's say rayn is scum

1.- why would HE CLAIM DOCTOR if he was mafia? I mean he could be like "I already won town cred why the fuck do i need to claim doctor" it doesn't make sense, like seriously it doesnt, he is cc GB because GB just SAID HE PROTECTED SOMEONE. We lynch GB he does, shows up as doctor rayn is pretty much GG next day.

2.- For all those who have that case on me, I am sorry but I still can't see why I am mafia with that, I am not pocketing people, I do what I have to do and I just dont blindly ship.

On September 10 2015 03:53 scott31337 wrote:


Glowingbear If you are town, you should leave a last will for your memory.

But I'm about 95% sure you are not, so just spill the last two mafia since we will find them anyway <3

On September 22 2015 08:55 kitaman27 wrote:


^ 3-0 as mafia when lynched day 2. Stop carrying this guy!

On September 22 2015 13:25 Damdred wrote:
Imo never take being bussed as an issue

It happens GB was dead in the water the right play was to bus. The bus on you cc wasn't amazing but its what it was he still carried the game.

If you bus you have to carry. You might not like him and it might not of been as fun but you won.

And maybe his attitude wasn't the best but nobodys was at that point in qt

On September 23 2015 02:27 n00bKing wrote:
Day 1 I list 4 different reasons why CopCake is Scum, and vote against her all day. Late Day 1, after yamato has put GB in trouble, he makes a terrible Doctor claim. I call it out as BS (twice) and switch to him.

My voting history:

##Vote: CopCake

##Unvote ##Vote: GlowingBear

EASY GAME. :D

I selected rayn for the non-vote, because I was virtually certain that if he was Town, he would be the easiest player in the game (probably the easiest player on the SITE) for me to manipulate. And I couldn't have asked for the strategy to work any better for me than it did. As it enabled me to completely eliminate rayn as a suspect (hence where I say that rayn was "doing all of the Scum team's work for them", which can only be true if he's Town) so that I can promptly stop reading anything he says. And when he predictably tries to put together a push on me, I pegged CopCake jumping on board in precisely the spot where I expected to catch Scum doing it (and told everyone so). There was a post I made where I refused to answer GB's questions, because it would interfere with how I was "helping two players do something." The two players I was helping were the two that were voting against me: yamato and rayn. And by refusing to explain my interactions with rayn, I was helping yamato and rayn get a Scum player to claim the safe landing spot on me, which is exactly what CopCake did, and she was snared.

I had said that all would be explained on Night 1, so if people just follow through with the GB lynch after his preposterous Doctor claim, then I think there's a good chance I convince Mage to check CopCake on Night 1, and we lynch Red on the first 2 Days of the game. And really, ALL that is necessary for this all to come off without a hitch is for rayn to STFU. That's it. yamato and I steamroll this game if rayn just stays out of the way. It would probably have taken a few more days to catch Moosy (since unlike CopCake, he actually knows something about how to look Town) but after hitting Red on the first 2 Days, we have an eternity of mislynches to figure out the bus.

Anyway, goodbye TL. Unlike Fidei, I will not be ending my Mafia-playing career. I will continue to play as often as I can, just not at THIS fuckin' place. Back to the sites where players can see beyond what is 6 inches in front of their face. Back to the sites where people actually think before they post. Back to the sites where ZERO replacements are needed in the signups, because people actually show up to play, and care whether they win or lose.

Two different people have tried to tell me that I'm only frustrated with the low level of play here because I've played in the Newbie games. And that since I have more experience than the coaches I've received, the "big games" would be more my speed. NOPE. I've read a few of the big games too, and the level of play in them can be summarized as "I'm 100 pages behind. lol, what do?"

In my last 15 games on sites other than this one (you know, sites where people THINK...and TRY...) I am a combined 12-2-1, and haven't had any losses in my last 7 games.

I could try to go through the steps of canceling or deactivating my account. But given the attitudes of the players here, I think it would be more appropriate if I just decided that I "can't be bothered" to do anything. So long, everyone! And nice work, Moosy!