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On August 31 2015 10:31 GlowingBear wrote: But I usually drink cheap beer. Always a bliss It sounds like you would fit in well in Aus | ||
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On September 05 2015 07:33 Superbia wrote: Counterclaim. Counterclaim the counterclaim | ||
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On September 05 2015 07:47 Superbia wrote: What exactly are you expecting, bresh? To participate in Day 1 On September 05 2015 07:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Breshke do you have reasons to believe: 1) i am town 2) yamato is town? nope. The only person I have a town lean on is GB | ||
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On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote: Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting. I don't expect you too. I won't be explaining why I like his posting either before anyone asks | ||
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On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: I want him to answer me. I dislike Breshke the most. The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything. meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. How is it out of place? Why are you taking the post 100% seriously? Do you honestly believe that I am telling everyone to do nothing other than you and yamato. I don't really get where you are coming from rayn | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:02 Superbia wrote: Breshke, what were your thoughts behind that post? I was 100% posting just to post. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:04 Superbia wrote: Why? To get myself involved with the game as i find it hard to participate in Day 1's if im not going from the get go. Why did anyone post their first few posts. This is fucking stupid can i just say. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote: In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well you will play if you are town. I know that. I am not calling you definite scum or anything. And yes, i think it's the optimal play. Just because at worst you got a guaranteed mafia with 1-1 trade. Blue roles do not win the games, lynching mafia does. Nah I know and i understand that you are clearly frustrated and that can help explain how you have reacted to things. I think im going to just agree to disagree because i don't see how you could think GB was certain mafia after what he did and this isn't going anywhere. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:38 CopCake wrote: I don't like Breshke comment but first Do I know you or have I played voice mafia with you? You don't know me. I wanna try voice mafia but time-zones are so shit for me | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not think he is certain mafia. I think he has a 50% chance of being mafia if someone "counter-claims" him. This is a newbie game. Like the basics of this game, and how you prove yourself as town and help the town, are: 1) town benefits from clarity 2) town benefits from direction 3) town benefits from people working together Do you think anything Glowingbear has done is achieving either of these things? Because to me it looks like the opposite. And that's what MAFIA benefits from. Even if we go with the simplest thing basically everyone should know in this game; If i ask someone "are you really saying this", they should know i am being 100% serious and i want a serious answer because i don't like people playing around with stuff they should not. If they do not give me a serious answer, and they are town, it will relatively hinder the town's capabilities of finding mafia, because then i will be caught into something i can't make any sense out of. Because it DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE. So yeah, there is pretty much no townie agenda behind Glowingbears actions. I still disagree. I don't think GB was being serious.Can i ask why you needed clarification in the first place? Why did it matter to you if GB was vigi or not? Of course I agree with the rest but still it was early like i don't see it as that much of a distraction. I don't care to defend GB too much here though because he has seemingly just pissed off now. | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because i want it to be 100% clear to everyone in the game, not just me. mmk fair enough On September 05 2015 08:38 CopCake wrote: I don't like Breshke comment but first Do I know you or have I played voice mafia with you? Copcake I felt this implied you had a follow up after i answered. Does it? | ||
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IDK if i would call it sarcasm it was more a joke im not sure if it is exactly sarcasm though because if rayn and yamato are town and both want to try hard this game then I believe they can very likely get us scum lynches. | ||
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Rayn you said you liked what moosey was doing not how he was doing it. OR something along those lines can you explain it. I can go find the post if need be. | ||
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On September 05 2015 10:00 n00bKing wrote: False. I agreed with his post saying that the things you had posted were bullshit. His post does not ever say that it's supposed to be any kind of a "case" against you, nor did I call it one. For the second time...by my own definition of WHAT? On September 05 2015 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Glowingbear's case on me is "rayn is making ridiculous conclusions with no basis" noobking says "##vote rayn" noobking says "GB's case is good" noobking says "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?" By your own definition you should not think i am mafia. Okay what is happening here (im fairly sure) SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?" He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta. Does this change the way you see things rayn? Also your response on moosey makes sense but i think iw as talking about a different post but i can't find it anyway. Is the slam thing that he was here at the start of the game seeming excited then just decided to leave? | ||
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On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: The why doesn't he fucking clarify it? Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else. Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII? Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it. He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e. If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone ##Vote Alakaslam | ||
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also this On September 05 2015 10:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: I disagree because you couldn't figure out he is mafia in the last game while others could. And could you answer GB? | ||
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On September 05 2015 10:49 n00bKing wrote: I'm doing more than just getting a read on rayn's alignment. And I don't need you to understand all of the things that I am doing, in order for them to work. I never said that I need to understand it for it to work. If you are town you better hope people can understand it when you get whatever you want to get otherwise even if you nail the scumteam whatever your doing is useless. | ||
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Reminds me of the first (probably only) scum lynch i ever pushed in my like 3rd game on kush. GB might remember it not that its relevant. | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:11 n00bKing wrote: Are you threatening me? Using fear as a weapon against me, so that I'll discontinue whatever I'm pursuing? Or sabotage it by explaining it? Yes, if I get whatever I want to get, then it will be explained, and people will understand it. For me to nail the scum team would not be useless. I do not have a difficult time conveying a point. No. Let me explain. I was like wtf are you doing noob i dont see how you can be getting reads from this. Then you are like YOU DONT NEED TO UNDERSTAND I DO WHAT I WANT Then im like well no actually you will need to eventually explain it because yes you might find every scum person and be 100 percent sure but if you cant convince the rest of town then you can't get the scum lynched and you will still lose. Im paraphrasing obviously but im just making sure it was clear to you. | ||
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Tries to buddy me realizes it isnt working reverts to old strategy of antagonizing. A+ | ||
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Dick move analysis If they were scum together i feel the idle chit chat would be in the scum QT not thread. as i said not that relevant but could be useful later. | ||
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On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote: Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high. rayn wasn't even talking about you being scum. If i was doing what you are saying i was doing wouldn't I have put my vote on noobking? | ||
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On September 05 2015 12:46 n00bKing wrote: What did you mean by "the slam thing" (which you mentioned when casting the vote against him) if you didn't mean rayn talking about him being scum, and the reasons (if you could call them that) why he thought so? urgh. OKAY so the slam thing is that slam was here at the start of the game all excited and whatnot he even posted in the 30 minute silence time. Then the game starts and he just disappeared. This is more likely to come from scum. Yes this was rayns reasoning so yes i was sheeping him but that is not what slam was saying i did. Slam is saying Im voting him because i am trying to follow thread sentiment (saying that rayn himself is thread sentiment because he has posted a lot) which is not true because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. So if i was doing what slam is acusing me of I would be voting for noobking because that's what rayn has been mostly talking about. | ||
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Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment. | ||
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On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam. He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it. Which i totally agree with it. Im kinda getting confused here. Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote: Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high. | ||
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Because people don't like playing scum. | ||
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On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out. That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world. I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e. What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense. | ||
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On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote: Dude is this your first time being scum? For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about. This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched. Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are. Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me. That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think. Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team. How did it throw me off? You are just creating a narrative that fits your world. | ||
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On September 05 2015 13:55 Alakaslam wrote: It threw you off because in skimming you thought Rayn had not pushed me much because in his actual posts WHOLLY about me, he didn't- and he voted noob But he actually was pushing me a lot He has said so himself because he knows he did. You failed to see that though; you have not been reading and were willing to vote for pretty foul reasons when there were reasons based on posting in the thread. I linked the posts where rayn talked about you before I started asking about it so no you are wrong or lying | ||
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The 98% one isn't about you and another one where he asks cake if she thinks anyone else is mafia could be about you but i don't see why you include it. You also ignore the fact that one of them is him replying to me because im asking about the read. I don't just suddenly decide to sheep him, i noticed him and yamato talking about you see you have 1 post and then I understand why. Also as I said ive seen scum be excited to play then see they rolled scum and can not be fucked and all the excitement is gone. But you refused to even consider that situation because you just want to call me mafia because you are mafia. | ||
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On September 05 2015 14:17 Alakaslam wrote: I found 9 clear posts to your 3. Slander. My vote isn't moving anywhere At best you have 4. (see previous post) You be the slandering one m8 | ||
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this one for example. He isn't talking about you he is talking about noobking. But thanks for giving me the finger. Noobking I understand it isn't going anywhere so do you want to tell me your read on slam. | ||
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I'm probably okay with lynching noobking. For how much he has been in the thread I don't actually remember him pushing much of anything I kinda wanna lynch moosey for his defence of noobking but it's ver reminiscent of the last game I played with him like the general behaviour so it then makes me think he is town. There was also some post that I don't remember that I really liked I could also lynch boxer cos why not. So answer to your question is noobking/boxer I obviously need to do more work though but have family stuff soon so can't commit to rereading stuff just yet. Who are you lynching today GB? | ||
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This isn't really a reason to scum read him but yeah. He did promise activity later though I think so will probably see then. I need to re look at Scott he was doing that thing where he posts his notes I think which is okay but I would like to see more polished kinda posts from him. I don't think I'd want to lynch him today though the stream of thought was good from what I remember and he is scared because "I'm putting in more effort than usual" and that's funny Why is boxer a less desirable lynch than the others for you? Is there something you like or is there just nothing you dislike? | ||
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On September 06 2015 11:00 CopCake wrote: when is end of the phase? 48 hours after it started so in like 20 and a half hours or so? | ||
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If you feel you have done it enough in your filter that's fair I just don't have access to filters at the moment but I'll look later. | ||
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On September 06 2015 11:41 n00bKing wrote: And this topic is not where we vote. In this topic, I could act like I'm voting against rayn, or against myself, or against Santa Claus, and none of it will move the vote count. I have only voted against CopCake. I feel like this question might be better to answer at the end of Night 1, than during Day 1. But I will think about it. I need to check something when I can but thanks for replying to my post Noobking Also about this post I don't really see what you could possibly have to say about rayn that you wouldn't say now but would at the end of night 1 Like thinking any read you have on rayn is going to affect mafias NKs is fairly arrogant at this point. | ||
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On September 06 2015 13:55 n00bKing wrote: *sigh* Did you forget about this exchange already? [underlining added for emphasis] There is more to it than just a read on rayn. And the Mafia have other actions that I can affect besides just their NK target. I remember it but it dumb | ||
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Also it's dumb because you are apparently being purposely confusing because you think you can direct mafia night actions when you should just try lynch mafia. | ||
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On September 06 2015 14:37 n00bKing wrote: Firstly...WHERE? Secondly, that would mean nothing, even if it actually happened. Have you heard of lying? 1) I am not being purposely confusing at all. 2) I don't merely "think" I can influence Mafia Night Actions. I've done it more times than I could count. 3) You are not really going to sit there and tell me that your poor wittle brain cannot figure out the concept of Town players withholding information. Do only Mafia players refuse to share their thoughts with the rest of the players, Breshke? On September 05 2015 20:23 CoughingHydra wrote: It's not "fair" since some of you can base your conclusions on previous games. Also 20 pages already... But anyway, my thoughts. First there was this convo about GB claiming vigi. I think it should be noted here that start setup is only know by mafia and blue roles (except cop and miller). The discussion went relatively constructive imo. Next, there was some pressuring going on it seems, noob voting ryan and breshke voting slam. After reading through the discussion, I don't know what to think of cake (with his funky posting) and breshke (case vs slam felt shaky and odd), but the rest seem town aligned for now (except for the people that didn't post at all obv). Bolded infers hydra had no previous games to base conclusions off of therefore first game. You akso ignoired the thing i said about them signing up as a newbie but w/e doesn't matter So GB asked you to clarify something so he was obviously confused. You arn't just withholding information though, you did something that doesn't add up you "fake" voted rayn and GB asked you to explain and you just cop out by saying "oh i cant explain right now im tricking mafia sa hard h3h3." Also you can call me stupid all you want I know im bad at this so you telling me im bad isn't going to make me tilt. However right now if i look at this from your point of view you are arguing with me (who you don't want to lynch today) about something from your point of view is totally stupid because "you know what you are doing you have done it heaps of times". and you havn't even tried tot alk to me about copcake or scott who are two of your lynch candidates that I don't want to lynch today. I don't see any townie mindset there. | ||
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On September 07 2015 08:26 NocturneMage wrote: I'm thinking one possible focus are the more or less under the radar players. n00b said something along the lines of rayn "doing all the work for them" not saying the entire team is inactive but they can afford to lay back if town are stumbling about in the wrong direction. Alakaslam. Breshke, boxerfred, MD to a lesser extent. I had a null on yamato until his eod activity, and thinking he's probable town. Went through Breshke filter just now. The post 858 he has says something about slam being townie for backing down, and it seemed to be based on tone. Slam had attributed some tinfoil theory that made him back off Breshke, but reading Breshke's filter the manner in which he pushed slam was townie. But then the drop just seems pretty weak. Slam could be trying to appease him, it seems from the games I've read or observed, people tend to be biased or townread them for townreading them back regardless of alignment. Doesn't vindicate slam, at least I don't think it should, but it doesn't necessarily mean Breshke is mafia from this. The only thing that gave me pause was when he looked at other people. Also 858. "I'm probably okay with lynching noobking. For how much he has been in the thread I don't actually remember him pushing much of anything" Pretty sure n00b was interacting/pushing rayn at least the first half of the cycle. Ya noob was interacting/pushing rayn but he thought that dude wasn't scum and he stillw asn't doing anything else. this is what I meant by that | ||
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On September 07 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote: JESUS I SAID I WAS VIGI BECAUSE MAFIA KNOW THE ROLES SO I WOULDNT BE SHOT AR NIHJT Gb just to be clear you only claimed vigi at the start so you wouldn't be shot during the night? | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:32 GlowingBear wrote: Meh, I don't know. I'm not sure about you. I really dislike your pushes on me and Breshke because I think they were out of place. You should know what I was trying to do. Well, Breshke does. No use talking about it. I think the biggest problem is your read on yamato. It's off. It's still too early to call him town + I didn't like his opening, felt forced. He say's rayn should understand and that I do understand why he claimed vigi. Quick history lesson GB coached me in one of my newbie games and im fairly sure it was there that he told me how he normally opens up the day by saying stuff that will start up some conversation. For example he will say something like "I am town" and colour the word town red. So when GB says I know why he claimed vigi it is because he was doing what i explained above. It doesn't make him town because GB does that first post play as both alignments. What does make him mafia is him claiming that he claimed vigi so he wouldn't get shot by mafia which is basically confirmed bullshit given the post I quoted. Like counterclaim or not I really doubt GB is the doctor considering he is trying to justify his claim with bullshit. | ||
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On September 07 2015 11:10 scott31337 wrote: So In theory GB's claim will solve itself tomorrow and it's why I personally did not want to drain on it, but makes me curious why want you want to tonight - time zones? Do you think the claim is bullshit? Who else do you think are mafia? Because saying it will solve itself tonight is fairly meh tbh. If GB is actualy the doctor then mafia have a RB and what stops them from just RBing him to infinity. So no I think people need to make a judgement because what if GB doesn't die are you going to be like "yeah he is confirmed mafia". Yeah I do. What do you think about why I pointed out? I have no answer right now I want to read EoD again but I have a test tomorrow and am doing some study atm. | ||
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I also don't really understand why you want to rely on having one of our blue roles claim when I have shown that GB lied and for now reason other than to justify his claim. | ||
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On September 07 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote: JESUS I SAID I WAS VIGI BECAUSE MAFIA KNOW THE ROLES SO I WOULDNT BE SHOT AR NIHJT On September 07 2015 07:21 GlowingBear wrote: So he just checks me at night if he is smart. Then he gets a green check on me and I keep alive. That's why I didn't want to talk about my claim. Contradicts with the bolded in this On September 05 2015 11:32 GlowingBear wrote: Meh, I don't know. I'm not sure about you. I really dislike your pushes on me and Breshke because I think they were out of place. You should know what I was trying to do. Well, Breshke does. No use talking about it. I think the biggest problem is your read on yamato. It's off. It's still too early to call him town + I didn't like his opening, felt forced. | ||
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On September 07 2015 07:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: im not up for this. gb's thought process makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. why would he think cop would check him unless he's godfather??? Can you explain this MD? I don't really get the logic. On September 07 2015 07:27 Fidei86 wrote: yeah, you guys were right, no way I build a wagon on MD now. So I have to move to NK. Ugh. this feels really awkward. Probably mafia. | ||
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This is an honest question (for some reason it feels like that came off as agressive) because i feel like it is fairly damming but no one else is really talking about it. | ||
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On September 07 2015 12:09 Breshke wrote: Contradicts with the bolded in this Okay so the top two quotes GB claims that his vigi claim at the beginning of the game was done so that mafia would think he was not a power role. The bottom one he says "breshke knows why i claimed vigi". What he means by that is that he has talked to me about how he likes to make a weird post at the start of the game to get conversation going. So he has contradicted himself and claimed that his opening play was for two different reasons. | ||
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Even with the claim like it is a shit claim if he was actually a doctor I have no doubt he would claim blue there not "doctor". But no claiming the specific role have him a better chance of survival. You have to just sack up and lynch the fake claim sometimes | ||
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Nah I have no idea. But GB is mafia | ||
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On September 08 2015 08:29 NocturneMage wrote: Does he actually have a history of doing this? I don't know what town motivation it would be to fakeclaim a role when you risk drawing out a blue role. And shouldn't someone experienced (I was coached by him last game??) know better? Well he has fake claimed a role even if he was the doctor because apparently his claim early he was more serious about than it seemed with him using it to justify his doctor claim But no one seems to agree about that so yeah. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying GB is bad I don't think that. I think he is mafia | ||
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I honestly have hardly read it not because I don't care but because I'm at uni. I could like skim it and give quick but I chose not too because you probably put effort into it and i feel like that unfair on you if i do that. Sorry if it seems like im trying to "stop your momentum" or w/e but im just trying to keep the thread on what I think is the right track and thought people were unvoting GB but it was just you. | ||
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Do you really think copcake "provoked" noobking. I really doubt that. I also don't understand why you have a problem with copcake making a bad town atmosphere yet when noobking was telling everyone how shit they were you were cool with that. Also look at it from her point of view. You have been on her back most of the game as town would that not frustrate you? Could this not explain some of the way she is acting? | ||
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It is going to be fairly funny if mafia medic dodged not killing rayn by killing yamato when rayn is the medic. Not that yam wasn't townie in his own right | ||
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I didn't notice the bolded and was really confused because I think it is a really good post Also why arnt you more annoyed your hug post didn't get much attention | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:53 scott31337 wrote: N00b is putting in a lot of posting and got a slight move up, but like what rayn says - he's not pushing anyone - like he's waiting to see what happens - and that makes me worried - He looks worse than the rest in the game - still #2. GB - I went over this already - #1 - voting him now I think Copcake's town and am not seeing the reasoning for him. GlowingBear (5): Alakaslam, scott31337, raynpelikoneet, yamato77, Fidei86 copcake (3): n00bking, moosydoosy, nocturnemage n00bking (3): CopCake, boxerfred, Superbia Alakaslam (1): Breshke scott310337 (1): GlowingBear the GB wagon looks pure and I think every one on him is town. This was a good post | ||
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On September 10 2015 07:55 Superbia wrote: Oh yeah, cop should probably out check 10 seconds before EoN. Unless your check somehow died (shouldn't have). Do you not believe rayn will die? | ||
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On September 10 2015 08:21 Superbia wrote: Roleblocker? Are you dumbtelling? We know the setup now. No but I just see no reason to keep him alive since he is like a big thread influence and confirmed town. Also the fact that there is a mullet and a GF makes the cop outing kinda meh. But I guess two checks arnt that bad but they could probably be greedier if they wanted to | ||
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On September 10 2015 09:22 MoosyDoosy wrote: "people to look into" is my way of saying i think they're mafia and i just need to do a combination of scrape together tone reads/find thread evidence/ask more questions. null is my way of saying...no real opinion. i've been doing this for a while now from previous games if you'd care to check. No I believe you it was just confusing because I'm the breakdown of your read on me you said you needed to look into me so I assumed I should have just been in the other category What do you think about that fact that fidel was voting GB fairly earlyish when the wagon had only 5 votes. Do you think he would bus that early | ||
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On September 10 2015 09:32 MoosyDoosy wrote: nope i just need to take a look at ur filter because to be frank, and whether this is good or not, i don't really remember you. huh? fidei was 2nd on gb for d2. it's WIFOM at best, but it's within the realm of a bus. d1 fidei just really sheeped rayn and his voting was rather low profile. d2 was an easy way to buy town cred looking at how rayn was going at glowingbear and a lot of people were already expressing doubt about glowingbear's claim. but as i said, i might be focusing too much on people that were looking into me and i'll have to relook at filters. i still want answers to my questions from fidei as well. Yeah I ment D1 So if you think Fidel just seeped rayn low profile what do you think he gets out of that as mafia? If he is bussing his partner on D1 do you think a low profile sheep is a good way to go about it? | ||
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On September 10 2015 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: moosy + superbia mafia. I was just considering this. Superbia was the only town lean he justified like why? | ||
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On September 10 2015 10:54 MoosyDoosy wrote: ? i've already explained my thought process behind the "inconsistencies" you've pointed out but you just don't accept it. like sure, i've accepted that you're tunneled so just make a case on end of night and hopefully you're at least right on superbia. either way, it's pretty dumb of mafia to kill you here because your claim about being a doctor was obviously false. Wait so if Ryan's claim about being the doctor was false why were you fine with people lynching GB???? | ||
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On September 10 2015 11:32 MoosyDoosy wrote: rayn was confident enough in his read on GB to do his doc claim shenanigans. i also thought that what had been said about gb was actually pretty spot on. Yet you were still more sure on cake than on GB even though you didn't believe rains claim | ||
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This is fairly funny | ||
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Seems like a weird interpretation from tou | ||
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It just shows that you are role hunting really | ||
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Also you are obviously lock town now I also fail to understand how moosey can be town after the last few pages unless he is really stupid which I don't think/hope is the case. | ||
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On September 10 2015 14:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would need to check this out but didn't you believe GB was scum in the first place on D2? Like how does it make sense your read on Fidei changes when you already think "GB is scum = true"? ahh I thought the question ment what reads have changed since the flip not because of the flip | ||
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He doesn't believe rayn is doctor so trying to wifom the kill from not being directed at rayn makes no sense | ||
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Super is you really make me want to lynch you | ||
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Moosey, rayn knew you were right and he still thought you were mafia so this "wow is me I'm so right" attitude isn't great | ||
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On September 11 2015 07:43 MoosyDoosy wrote: i've been trying to tryhard and help town from d1 but all people to do is go tunnel and act like complete dumbasses and not even listen to any of my reads or my advice on what we shoul ddo. So what should we do now? | ||
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Do you still want to lynch cake? Who is the other mafia? | ||
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On September 11 2015 07:50 Breshke wrote: MD has the flip changed your reads at all? Do you still want to lynch cake? Who is the other mafia? Moosey pls | ||
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Like obviously you still think cop cake is mafia but who is the other mafia | ||
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Like obviously you still think cop cake is mafia but who is the other mafia | ||
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Who do you want to lynch(other than moosey) | ||
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It's an awkward question to answer I know but yeah. | ||
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Also there is no vigi they would have shot GB or on the off chance they shot the Vet one of them would have claimed. Stop getting sidetracked people | ||
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On September 11 2015 08:49 scott31337 wrote: I think it's over the top. Let's Look at his perspective Super mad he's right but town doesn't listen and is vocal about it. Wants to lynch Cop cake, but what if she flips town? Do we lynch moosy then? Who's the other mafia? So I'm trying to think what he gets out of this anger as scum. 1. Townread (which idk because everyone is just like meh or funding it funny like I am) 2. Trying to see if his scum team role locked correctly and trying to bait out the doc claim by saying the doctor is stupid 3. Trying to bait out the doc claim of the doctor didn't save rayn which could have happend so it's like the same as three where he calls them stupid and they are like fuck you moosey I'm not dumb So yeah I also agree that it seems over the top like as town he hasn't even considered the situation where the doc did get RB yet he still harps on about it when I'm trying to talk to him about reads Would lynch in a second but I remember this headstrongness from him in our last game | ||
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On September 11 2015 11:06 Alakaslam wrote: How do you know they did not derp? And besides who says it isn't the jailkeeper setup then? Though I would then wonder as Moosy does why Rayn wasn't guarded XD I don't but I don't see anyone flipping a read on someone like a Vigi would if he shot a vet. Jail keeper setup is same as doc setup for all intents and purposes here | ||
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On September 11 2015 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote: Huh. You’re right. I didn’t think about the possibility of a role cop. I assume you mean roleblock I'm fairly sure slam and others were talking about it so this kinda shows that you don't read other people's posts very well yet you are complaining that no one is paying attention to yours Do you see how this is really fuckin frustrating? | ||
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On September 11 2015 11:25 MoosyDoosy wrote: Good to see you understand my frustration then. As for your earlier question on who I think is Mafia, it's CopCake and then most likely boxerfred. After that I would have to really re-look between Superbia/Breshke. Can I have an updated explanation for all your townreads | ||
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On September 11 2015 11:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: I will wait to see Superbia's stance on what he wants to do Day 2 then decide. In the meantime, I suggest you re-look at CopCake's filter because there are a ton of the inconsistencies that you seem to love to point out. I'm almost home so probably. Idc if you call it wifom but cake killing yam and rayn is fairly sub optimal for her wouldn't you think? | ||
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On September 11 2015 11:43 MoosyDoosy wrote: w0w is this the night kill WIFOM you told me to not think about?!?!?? Although she was nowhere around, I wouldn't put it past her to think that rayn was the doctor like everyone else (except me) and go for the kill. No the wifom I told you not to worry about was you trying to direct the NK by saying in thread that you didn't think rayn was the doctor Props to you for being right but you saying that in the thread did not help town solve the game whatsoever if anything it would have had the opposite effect If rayn is the doctor and reading her wrong why not just RB him though? All wifom has counter wifom. | ||
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On September 11 2015 11:48 Alakaslam wrote: CopCake is this game's rsoultin and there WILL be an elitebluehunter Haahahahahahahahah | ||
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Also ##Vote Superbia | ||
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Why was I a pr on d1? | ||
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Blame rsoul for that not me | ||
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Explain why I would to be a pr | ||
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On September 12 2015 00:15 Superbia wrote: Because you have to hide from mafia and check the right people. You can't play as freely as you if you would be a PR. Did you just wake up or what? Lol no The way I play (lucky and being shit) is perfectly suited to being a PR like Suss gaiden I just play like normal (as everyone should as a pr) your point makes no sense. Also i don't really think I seem like a person to really stress about making action decisions either | ||
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Also why do you assume I'm not a PR? | ||
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Quote my bitterness and why can't I be a PR | ||
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On September 12 2015 00:40 Superbia wrote: But I don't think you're PR, lol. Why, what changed? | ||
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On September 12 2015 00:39 Superbia wrote: Like you make a horrible joke post which from another person's perspective, looks like you're calling rayn/yamato town, and might be TMI. So rayn/yamato call you out for it and instead of evaluating. What did you think of rayn/yamato calling you out for that? Why did you react so bitterly? What were you expecting? As I said in the posts I thought it was fucking stupid I was expecting that post not to get jumped on and taken as 100 percent serious. I don't follow how you thought I was a PR and now for no reason don't | ||
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On September 12 2015 00:46 Superbia wrote: I have re-evaluated on who the PRs are. That's what changed. Okay so what specifically made you reevaluate your PR read on me? | ||
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I'm not asking you who you think is PR. I'm asking you why you reevaluated me as being pr. You are pushing me for lunch because you don't think I am pr anymore because reasons? This is you "stepping it up" like I don't believe it this is like me level play not you | ||
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Give a reason why you think so aswell | ||
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If you actually have a reason it's me who looks like shit for pushing you to out them not you. Like what is my objective here obviously people can read that you don't want to point them out and if you did it would be because of me. | ||
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Also am I still mafia just because I was afk during the D1 lynch? Like why are you "pretty sure" now? | ||
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We both got a read out of the conversation so I don't see how you can say it is pointless fidei | ||
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On September 12 2015 01:50 Superbia wrote: Wrong. I reached the conclusion that moosy and breshke aren't together. I believe that you should have realized breshke and myself might not be together. Especially since you have so many nulls during n2. You see us arguing and instead of evaluating one of your many null-reads, you reach the conclusion that this is a set up play. What? I agree here. It's like you read the game then tried to apply it to the world that you already believed in. Anyways I need to go to bed So parting thoughts I didn't realise that the doctor couldn't save the same person two nights in a row(thanks fidei) so it's very possible they didn't get RB last night yet couldn't save rayn. That's if there is a doctor. Also I think moosey is less mafia and I'm not sure how else to express it except like what is he trying to achieve here as mafia. | ||
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Fidei saying that myself and superbia came back to the thread is really fckn contrived I was around way early than him talking to moosey Also the amount of people saying that mine and superbias discussion was useless is making me think he is town. It wasn't useless, you see us talking about pr's but not why it involved both of us making a read on the other and the fact that both BF and fidei come into the thread call it a shitfight and useless but don't comment on any of the reads me or superbia made from it makes me think one of them is mafia | ||
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From that conversation noone other than moosey has commented on what we actually said and has just burshed it off as being a useless shitfight about roles. Like you think im mafia and you don't even comment on why superbia thinks im mafia instead you jsut say the entire conversation was useless. Fidei did much the same. This leads me to a conclusion that people are happy with me and superbia going at it because we could both be town and two towns going at it is good for mafia. | ||
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On September 12 2015 10:46 NocturneMage wrote: atm I'm still reading his filter - two main list posts he's left you out I see that but still going through his filter. but I don't think fidei is mafia for his observations, and certainly not the push on you. not from what I remember reading at first. see this really makes me think that you didn't read the interaction between me and superbia like i know it is probably a real pain to read but if you did read it you would understand why superbias read changed on me and why I had a problem with that and ultimately why we were talking about power roles. | ||
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The before read was me sheeting rayn plus there was some game ages ago (not on pc so can't link it) it was a student or campus mafia game and superbia was the last scum alive and I remember him being semi lurky there. That's why I ignored moosey before and started voting superbia because I know he can and will lurk to victory as scum. The "during" read is weird to explain but at the time I didn't really believe that superbias bitter=or/mafia read was genuine. I also didn't believe the reason he gave for why he stopped considering that I could be a PR. | ||
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I'm going I got stuff to do. Nocturne find the other mafia than me if I can't convince you I'm town | ||
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On September 12 2015 14:04 CopCake wrote: There is some stuff that is irking me, i re read the whole thread so But first of all I want to ask you guys this: Why do you think sup is scum? No one seems to understand my reason or they just plain disagree with it so that is w/e. Rayn had a reason why he thought superbia was scummy. what is the stuff that is irking you? | ||
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Also nocturne were you inferring that there is deffs a mafia between me and superbia for the so called shitfight | ||
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Would also lynch fidei though which makes no sense because I really don't think mafia buss here so I'm deffs wrong in one of you | ||
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I kinda see why you would say it but for them both to be the only votes on me this stage like am I that easy if a misslynchable that they aren't trying to spread themselves out. There is probably one between them and one not voting | ||
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Saved rayn rayn (which is funny if you read the rules of my role) Got role locked second night which is why superbia saying I "couldn't be a power role" was weird as fuck because it was like he was pushing me to claim Superbia who did you think was the doctor | ||
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Who was the doctor and why. I've claimed now so you can explain without backlash | ||
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On September 13 2015 04:49 Superbia wrote: Ugh breshke. Give me a second. Sorry I know I'm being anal about it | ||
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On September 13 2015 04:50 Superbia wrote: Like if this is leading you to lynch me it's horrible dude. Nah it's more of it it would make me not lynch you well at least try to lynch someone else | ||
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Do they stil push me like they have? | ||
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On September 13 2015 04:54 Fidei86 wrote: I'm back. I got really drunk last night and today has basically been a right-off. But I'm now about until EOD. Breshke's claim is believable, and if there was a CC then it should probably have been made already, so let's move off him. I'm going to Superbia for now, but I'm going to do a re-read and reconsider. ##Unvote ##Vote: Superbia Scott look at this post. It is so over explainy Also I could lynch boxerfred but what do you think about the question I just asked Also about why superbia read slam as doctor | ||
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On September 13 2015 04:56 Fidei86 wrote: @Bresh out of interest, how come you could save people twice in a row? The rules on that look pretty clear... Seemingly no one rememberd that rule until you mentioned it in thread hosts included. For a bit I thought that's why I didn't get a save on rayn hence me "I made a huge mistake " post but both of my saves were accepted | ||
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On September 13 2015 05:00 Alakaslam wrote: Moosy hates you breshke That was one of the funniest Things he is just raging because he thinks I didn't try and save rayn and I'm just like BRUH Also when I called him stupid because rayn was obviously the doctor | ||
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On September 13 2015 05:04 Alakaslam wrote: Does it not make you scumread him at all? Not really I kind of thought the flame was genuine which would have been weird coming from scum who most likely guessed they successfully roleblocked me | ||
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On September 13 2015 05:06 Superbia wrote: Breshke what do you think the target should be? You or fidei I want to see what Scott says about the stuff I asked him Also fideis over justifications into "rereading" the thread gives me bad vibes so hopefully he comes back soon | ||
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On September 13 2015 05:08 Superbia wrote: Breshke, is it possible you did not get roleblocked but rso did not process your actions because it went against your role nerf? No | ||
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I've only slept for 3 hours I woke up early to make sure I didn't get lynched Superbia why do you think fidei is mafia | ||
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On September 13 2015 05:14 Alakaslam wrote: I THOUGHT YOU WERE HE ONR PUSHING FIDEU WTF WHO IS WHAT WHAT Why where you voting me eod d2 and why do you think super would insta bus GB who had survived? You mean d1? Because I expected to wake up before deadline which didn't end up happening so I never changed my vote Did he bus GB? I seem to remember superbia being a big doubter on lynching GB d1 | ||
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On September 13 2015 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote: Wait, so just to clarify Breshke. Were you blocked by the rules or by a role block? Role block | ||
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On September 13 2015 05:28 NocturneMage wrote: on the fight? town on town then. weird but your explanations make sense once I read them. to me superbia was making sense the whole time. So you think the reasons superbia said he thought slam was the doctor were legit. Also arnt you voting superbia right now? | ||
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